Could Destiny Be Bigger than Call of Duty? - Game Scoop

IGN - Analysts think it's possible. This conversation originally appeared in Game Scoop Episode 311.

[cfc78]

IGN analysts might do but I don't it might get closer than Halo did with it being multi platform but taking top spot I just don't see it we all know what COD does year in year out and we all know the game doesn't even have to be great for it to sell millions but anything's possible I guess.

[Relientk77]

If Halo was multiplatform I have no doubt it would hit Call of Duty sales numbers

so yeah, I think Destiny is gonna do extremely well.

I'm expecting 15-20 million atleast

[FamilyGuy]

Destiny will have legs. Even if it doesn't sell CoD numbers out the gate it will hold consistently high sales because of all the people who end up buying it to play with their obsessed friends. Game streams, video uploads and words of mouth will make Destiny huge, beyond the initial bulk that buy it from the start. Whether it dethrones CoD I'm not sure but it's not like it has to dethrone it and Activision wins either way.

[4Sh0w]

No.

[Sitdown]

Great is relative.... being a trigger happy game that most people can pick up and play..... It's great at that.

[Johnsonparts23]

It was, but did you play Ghosts? that was just bad.

[Sitdown]

Nope..... just could not bring myself to do it. Price drops and lack of trade in value were red flags. Not to mention the fish fiasco..

[Sitdown]

It "could" be, but it won't. Destiny appears to be too involved for what is deemed as the COD crowd.

[ScorpiusX]

One word No , enough said.

[JeffGUNZ]

That was fiver words ;)

I don't know man, I think if the really do add daily activities and constantly support it, then yes. The fact that you are in control of how you gear your guy and he will be yours for 10 years, carrying over from game to game, will be an attractive feature. The mechanics are there to draw away some COD fans. If Advanced Warfare is the same dog and pony show, then Destiny has a solid chance.

[ScorpiusX]

The part that made me rethink my buy is the lack of interaction at the tower, it has to happen by invitation. Why not create some kind of dialog wheel that players can use to interact with other people . Aside from that the game has potential but to beat or overtake COD that a tough one to call.

[JeffGUNZ]

Yeah I totally agree with you there. The tower is too limited. They need to allow much more users in there at a time instead of having separate towers with player limits. Proximity chat in Explore mode and more social interaction in the tower then it has better legs to run on with the social aspect. Since they are not allowing raids to have matchmaking, they should make an area of the tower a place where people can go and meet up to do raids. Like a bar or lounge area. You can walk in then it shows you the groups who are waiting to meet someone to join their raid. This game is heaving on working with people but they have limited the interaction. That's my biggest gripe.

[TimidPixel]

I like Destiny so far a lot more than most past cods. Cod will probably still sell more but either way Activision still wins.

[JeffGUNZ]

This. Activision is going to make so much money in a period of 2 months it's going to be sickening.

[Bonkerz]

Not gonna happen if that PVP in destiny stays the same, in the beta it was an unbalanced mess. Hopefully some changes are made.

@ThatOneguyThere.. I agree, the coop was fun but im still worried about the amount of content. Hopefully its got enough content to keep people busy for a nice amount of time. Also yes, the PVP was horrible one of the worst in FPS gaming.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

the PVP was godawful. but the co-op was AMAZING if you're gaming with friends.

[Johnsonparts23]

it's only bad if you suck, so.......

[UnHoly_One]

Ahhhh, the classic "it's not bad you just suck" argument.

I remember that one from 33 years ago when I was in kindergarten.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

johnson,

I'll mop the floor with your silly a$$ any day of the week. Pick the FPS.

[OrangePowerz]

How was it an unbalanced mess? Because you got your ass kicked?

I'm mainly a console player by now and don't play anymore that much on PC, but this is the complaint I always kept hearing from people who are not familiar at all with the concept of PvP in MMOs during the Beta. If I spend time getting good gear why should my gear get gimped? That would make the gear pointless if someone with worse gear makes the same amount of damage and survives just as long as me. Also I would expect them to have PvP centric gear with stats that are usefull for PvP instead of just running around in your PvE gear in the crucible.

We are still learning about what are the best stats and skills for PvP and PvE. Do you really expect to go into a match with whatever gear and beat everybody?

[FamilyGuy]

It most certainly was unbalanced. The classes and the vehicles need adjusting. The Hunters Golden Gun is FAR less effective when compared to the Titan and Warlock Special attacks. On the Moon PvP map that large ship was way too strong.

As far as gear goes, they had modes where your gears stats counts and one where they didn't. Iron banner or whatever that was only open a short time is where your gear actually mattered.

It's not about being bad at the game when any crappy player could just turn a corner drop a special and kill everyone at a flag. Even double jumping before they landed wouldn't save you.

[Johnsonparts23]

nah pvp was dope once you get the hang of it. Just don't suck and you'll love it lol

[JeffGUNZ]

What a lot of people didn't understand was how the PVP worked. If you did crucible, then everyone is on a level playing field and you have to chose the weapon which you think will do the best. Yet, the auto balance it to make it straight up PVP. The Iron Banner, doesn't do that. That is pure you're gear/weapons vs. another. So if a level 29 is in there against a level 15, that level 15 is in trouble. I am not sure if you played iron banner or not, but there is a complete difference in balance.

Overall, the vehicles seemed a little overpowered and I hope the get fixed. I hated the moon map, but the maps on the iron banner were really good.

[GamingSinceThe80s]

No just because there are a lot of people who play COD because it is more of a real war simulation game.And will never like "Nerdy SCI FI Star wars/Trek games like Destiny" as I think many of them would put it.COD just reaches a much wider/world market of casual players.

[LightDiego]

"Bigger doesn't mean better", by my girlfriend.

[Paul_JC]

lololol

[spoonard]

i'd like to think so, but i don't see it happening.

[Drithe]

I believe Destiny can, just because of the RPG element it has and the awesome loot you can find. it is so much more than just a pvp game, like COD pretty much is.

[Sevir]

I think it may do pretty well. 8 million units is what I'm forecasting, and that's conservative. If this IP cracks 10 million units across PS3/PS4/XBO/XB360 in the first 2 months that'll be something huge for Activision and bungie. And to be quite honest. There isn't a company better at marketing a product than Activision/Blizzard... WOW, COD, Englanders, Heartstone. That company is a printing factory for money and a marketing genius.

Activision Marketed the he'll out of that beta, and raked in 4.6 million players

90% of that data already confirmed to be people who want to play it and will buy it.

Activision is going to make sure the game thrives at retail. It's gonna be interesting to say the least but I think 4 million is already in the bag.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

8 million is awfully high. I'll be impressed if it breaks 5. This isn't a COD, this is a borderlands. Gamers know it.

[Sevir]

It'll do that no problem.

[Godmars290]

Unless all the people who were praising it during the beta - or whatever it was called - are spellbound by something else shiny, it might have a chance.

[CorndogBurglar]

CoD has the power of the super casual gamers behind it.

People that don't realize there is more to shooters than CoD.

People that truly think CoD is the end all be all of the genre. Simply because they aren't really gamers.

I'm not saying all people that like CoD aren't real gamers, so I don't want to see anyone put words in my mouth. But we all know what I'm talking about.

Also, CoD has more than one location per planet, so....

Sorry, I had to do it.

[SonyPS4]

What if you only play sports games (like my dad), does that make you "not a real gamer?" Then what does make you one?

[700p]

Tbh, the only way a game like this gets bigger than cod would be to release it on pc. A game like this thrives on pc.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

a game like this thrives on bittorrent

[700p]

no.

[PlayableGamez]

No. Simply because COD has a huge casual fan base.
Destiny to me is more of a game suited for core gamers and not casuals.
Destiny will probably be really popular among gamers, but for casuals, I don't see that really happening. Nothing against Destiny, but Destiny is a new IP and so far it hasn't really pulled any casuals to love this game yet and it probably never will. Or at least not as big as COD.

[mcarsehat]

I.....noooooooooooo...

[Codewow]

I hope this game fails only to spite Activision for it's focus on quantity over quality and innovation. Though I know it won't fail because it's activision and they have the most money making games....

[my-proxy]

Ya, that`ll teach them! Wait, Activision is making Destiny? Hu, i thought Bungie was.......

[Codewow]

Bungie makes it, Which I like, kinda, but Activision is the one that makes 75% of the money and also funds the project, so if they lost money it would mean wonders to me.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

so, lets get this straight, you want activision's most quality title in recent years to fail because they also publish Call of Duty? You know what that will do? Create more Call of Duty.

[CJDUNCAN]

So much hype is setting this game up for failure. A new IP being compared to some of the biggest franchises in the history of gaming is ridiculous. Focus on establishing itself first. This amount of hype will be detrimental, mark my words.

[objdadon]

There is too much anticipation for this game to not succeed. They gave us a beta that I sank over 80 hours into. We already know we're buying the game so failure? No chance.

[Codewow]

Your opinion isn't everyone elses.. Some people might think the game is extremely boring after 5 hours, much like myself. D:

[SonyPS4]

Yeah, major shooter releases in the past were previously hyped as the next CoD. Most of them ended up only having sold a fraction.

[AllAboutGaming]

It will be bigger than Halo for sure. Even if it doesn't sell like CoD, Activision still wins.