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EA Access could be bigger than Steam

EA have announced they're launching a game subscription service exclusively available to Xbox One owners. If they play their cards right, it potentially be bigger than Steam.

Sillicur3555d ago

Well, exclusve to xbox one will already make it impossible and its called EA access, so will not have other types of games, most likely ever.

If it could span PC, PS and Xbone with like 50 developers on board then it could :)

But then again if i had wheels i would be a wagon.

lelo3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

EA's platform Origin has other games besides EA's.
If EA access is a success, maybe other developers could use it. It doesn't necessarily have to be exclusive to EA games.

As for it becoming bigger them Steam... I doubt that.

Wizard_King3555d ago

Bigger than Steam.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I want some of this guys crack, it must be the premium scanté.

XtraTrstrL3555d ago

@Wizard_King

I was thinking the same thing.

majiebeast3555d ago

@Wizard_King

Yeah. I hope this dies a fast death.

Th3o3555d ago

I believe this was clearly a "just for hits" title...I mean Steam is pretty much set in stone.

Almost anything they do they will be around for ever. Short of completely screwing their customers and stealing for them, they pretty much have a license to print money.

Technically they are already doing that by doing the Steam market. They give us stuff that we pay using real cash, then have us resell it through steam, which makes 15% cut either way...

It's brilliant.

Let's not forget the endless market of games, and Early Access (which is getting ridiculously out of hand because some devs are ruining it for the true devs out there).

Anyways the Only dent EA access will be creating will be in it's own market.

Clown_Syndr0me3555d ago

I cant understand how a service for one publisher, with like 5 games on it is even close to steam...Maybe in like 5 years when all the other publishers have jumped on board. If that happens ill just switch to PC as its cheaper.

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styferion3555d ago

There's this thing called Origin that EA Access have to surpass before tackling on Steam.. oh wait, they're made by the same company.

SteamPowered3555d ago

There is no bloody way EA could take on Steam regardless of what platform they use. Steam has PC buttoned up. All you have to do is say the word "origin" and Pc gamers will turn away.

Th3o3555d ago

To be fair, in terms of customer service. Origin is 100x's better than Steam.

In terms of market and community, it's very small.

But I give credit where it's deserved. They always helped me out asap with all my problems, and in some cases gave me free games + upgrades.

Customer Service

Origin > Steam

Everything else

Steam > Origin

HonestDragon3555d ago

Origin still didn't deter gamers away from playing Sim City and Battlefield 4 on their PCs. For some, it will take a lot more than just Origin to ward them away from EA.

Wizard_King3554d ago

Th3o

You are dreaming mate, Origin is far far worse than Steam in every respect.

And the customer service at Steam in 2nd to none, heck I have even traded crappy COD titles I never played for indie titles using customer support.

I smell an EA employee.

Th3o3554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

Why on Earth would a Origin Employee ever admit "Steam > Origin everything else" ? It just doesn't make sense.

State your opinion as much as you'd like but don't bring nonsense to this conversion.

I'm ofc speaking from my experience. Steam's customer service thought effective for me most of the time, is very robotic and cold. While with Origin I could actually call in a do everything over the phone.

That was my experience.

P.S

Contrary to popular belief I doubt EA wants to waste the resources to come on here and make small positive jabs...

Also while we're on the subject did you even see my previous post? You're very quick to judge and dish out criticism.

Rifkens3551d ago

Th3o is right. Origin's Customer Service is far better than Steam's. It is the only thing going for Origin though

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DeadRabbits3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

One major flaw, its EA we are talking about. The most evil underhanded anti consumer gaming company out there! Dont let their silver tongues and trickery fool ye for they do the work of the the Horned One.....Belezebub! They also eat puppies and force feed ye microtransactions!

lord zaid3555d ago

Yes. That is exactly the problem. But the concept is sound. Would it not be awesome to have access to all the games you could possibly want for a reasonable monthly fee? I would jump at that oppurtunity.

beerzombie3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

So companies that make weapons that kill millions of people a year is less evil?

Enron, Banks that steal and lie, Our own Government, Car manufacture's that allow their customers to die and cover it up, Prosecutors that lie with hold evidence for a conviction, Mine companies that choose not use safety over money and allow their employees to die, Tobacco companies the list goes on and on Ea. doesn't even make the top 100.

VJGenova3555d ago

Comparing apples to oranges dude. Wrong forum for this sort of discussion.

Silly Mammo3555d ago

For a guy with the username: beerzombie, you sure are laying down some heavy sh*t!! :0P

Michiel19893555d ago

Im not a big fan of how EA handled their stuff, but keep it reasonable. They have a new CEO if im not mistaken and for fucks sake, they are making MIrror's Edge 2, BG&E 2, Battlefront 3 and they did try out some stuff with Star Wars 1313 (though that won't see the daylight unfortunately).

It's funny how all gamers seem like parrots, first lets hate on EA, then activision, then EA again. Most of the people who do hate on them on the interwebz haven't had bad experiences with certain companies but just talk shit because the guy next door does as well.

morganfell3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

It doesn't matter. EA knows Xbox supporters will embrace this program and back it to the hilt no matter what they do or what they charge all because it's exclusive.

The X1 was built around DRM. MS has retreated and backpeddled then asked to be rewarded for what they previously swore to gamers was impossible. They told gamers "Meh, no 24 hour access, buy a 360" The list of deceptions and untruths is endless and people still back them up because their ego will not admit the truth of what they supported and continue to support. They actually deserve this.

This will be no different. I expect numerous articles in the coming days lauding all the advantages of such a wonderful company as EA.

It appears EA couldn't failed to learn their lesson with Origin and they failed to learn their lesson with Titanfall exclusivity...

Bigger than Steam? Ahahahahaha...no.

And for certain people that think EA is wonderful all one need do is look at Battlefield 4.

I can't wait for the comeuppance.

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Slick813555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

Lol yeah content is very limited and it be cooler if their was access to 360 ea games but atleast it's a start

hiredhelp3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

EA Bigger than steam Bold statement lets think EA Games New and old = shed load games whist this not bad scheme. If you want to match against steam..... DONT!
Just plain silly steam no1 world wide distribution that has all major 3rd party publishers back catalouge inc some of EA older titles.
Your talking hundreds if not thousands libary of games Fact.

modesign3555d ago

if your going to pay a monthly subscription to EA to play their old games, then you are a fool.

Dewitt3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

2.50 a month, that is a fast food trip off the dollar menu you skip for one day. People act like this service is expensive, yet people buy steam sales all the time because an indie game dropped from 10 dollars, to 2.49. This is 4 AAA titles that alot of people never got a chance to try at launch. I didn't think I would enjoy Madden 25, but I had alot of fun online last night with it.

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Dragon’s Dogma 2 releases to mixed user reviews, as microtransactions criticised

Players can pay to edit their character, resurrect the dead and other actions.

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AdonisIsBeast32d ago

Who cares as long as it’s optional

phoenixwing32d ago

paying to edit your character is kind of crap as far as microtransactions go

Xristo32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I hate any/all MTX in a paid game (especially a full-price game)... but know that you can spend in-game currency (RC), which you get from killing mobs, to completely remake your character.

phoenixwing32d ago

@xRisto how much did it change the gameplay though? Changing your character would have probably not cost any rc if they weren't hellbent on getting money by making it inconvenient

koga8831d ago

You can literally edit your character using in-game gold, dropped from monsters or obtained from selling items, as soon as you reach the first main town. You can even use Rift Crystals obtained from other people using your pawn or dropped from monsters to change your entire character or Pawn. It's paying to avoid doing something that is literally in the game.

PRIMORDUS31d ago

They are lucky there using Denuvo or their game and all future DLC etc. would be for free. 🤣

phoenixwing31d ago

@koga you completely missed the point i was making but go ahead and act like i'm being the wrong one

lucian22931d ago

you can pay ingame currency though; why are ya so derp

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Crows9032d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Capcom cares quite a bit....hence why it was kept from reviewers and initial impressions.

As far as optional...yeah...ALL mtx are optional. That's not the problem. The miss the mark entirely.

Heck buying the game is "optional" too.

The fact that they were hiding this is scummy as hell. I was going to buy this day 1 or day 3. Now I'm reconsidering the purchase entirely because as the reviews point out...there are certain design decisions which have not changed but funnily enough seem to be remedied by these mtx...

In other words they may have left certain features in the game in order to monetize them. So the mtx affected the development of the game in a negative way.

garos8232d ago

I'm certainly not buying it anymore. It has affected at least one sale from me. I'll pick it up second hand

peppeaccardo32d ago

Very close to buy the game at a discounted price but not anymore.
Bad business practice and hence they do not get my support/money !

warriorcase31d ago

It wasn't kept fromreviewers s though. Twitter reviewers are saying there was mention of mtx's in the reviewers guide

-Foxtrot32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

STOP. USING. THAT. SHITTY. EXCUSE

God damn man

Look how DLC changed after Oblivions horse armour, within 10 years most developers took the absolute p***. What was said then aswell? “It’s only optional who cares?” Now look where we all are.

There’s no half measures with these things, when will people realise this.

jwillj2k432d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Oh it’s gonna get worse. Ng+ locked behind mtx, “cool downs” preventing you from playing for more than 3 hours at a time unless u pay the mtx for unlimited access, main campaign bosses, in-game music, certain dialog, difficulty modes, certain npc interactions, all locked behind mtx, etc.. etc. gonna end up being like the NBA 2k games eventually paying for cross overs and shit… They gon get mid-evil on our asses.

OMGitzThatGuy31d ago

I can guarantee most of the items you can buy with mtx and ingame currency wouldn’t exist in ANY paid form if the main goal wasn't monetization. If the goal is to give idiots who are willing to pay for basic game features as mtx a way to do things faster then the only ones the mtx hurt are the non paying players as you are now locking features behind a grind that you chose to put in the game that you are essentially admitting to creating some type of time sink. I have never heard of a game locking basic character editing behind a ingame paywall, it’s usually just an option.

Chard31d ago

Takes two to tango though - unfortunately people buy this garbage which incentivises the behaviour. It's an inevitable outcome of the profit motive

thorstein32d ago

@Mario

Yes. And so are resurrection "Wakestones." You can find them but they're rare.

victorMaje32d ago

Buying the game is now very optional too. If you don’t know why then you don’t get it.

shinoff218332d ago

Because it's only a door way. That's why we care. We've already seen some shit since Mtx was introduced.

Rimeskeem32d ago

1. DD2 is an ARPG with 8 different playable classes
2. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game
3. You can only have one character (have to pay for more)
4. You cannot delete the character unless you go into the game files
5. The game is $70 dollars upfront

Having to pay for more character slots in a game that *features* 8 playable classes is pretty much not optional for an ARPG.

Angyobangyo31d ago

Judging from steam reviews, gamers care. Not plastic gamers. Why didn’t Itsuno mention such MTX would be available in-game? Why weren’t the MTXs there for review copies?

Kiryu199231d ago

Who cares is how all this started. The many many excuses. Please keep defending these greedy publishers and unfair tactics. We be gamers are the problem

Horse armor

$10 online passes if buying a used copy

Cheat codes gone and are replaced by micro transactions

Unlocking stuff by playing games behind micro transactions and XP boosters

It’s only cosmetic

No one is being forced to spend even though publishers are literally making their games more grindy to force people to play

Full priced games have mobile game type micro transactions

$70 priced games because higher development costs while making record profits and laying off record number of employees

And to play the game early pay us extra $20-30 on top of full price

Release games now and promise to maybe fix them later only to abandon the game

Day one patches that make the games worst

If it’s your favorite game defend the publisher if it’s not hate on another publisher for similar content

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kenpachi32d ago

Must have picked up some EA crew to put this in the game

robtion32d ago

Yeah these are really bad ones. Directly impacting gameplay too. Super scummy move. I hope nobody buys them.

CrimsonWing6932d ago

Yet Helldivers 2 gets a pass? Y’know a GotY contender by the name of RE4 had them and so does Devil May Cry V. The funny thing is I enjoyed both of those games thoroughly without having to buy a single microtransaction.

What I do consider a valid complaint is not being able to start a new game or being able to edit your character. That’s kind of a seriously baffling decision, but then I think how I played Dragon’s Dogma 1 and I never edited my character and I just did a 100% playthrough on a single file and didn’t start a NG since. So, I don’t think these are really going to impact me, but I can see how it will others.

Crows9032d ago

Helldivers 2 is a live service game where everything is obtainable in game with incredible ease.

Not sure about re4 or DMC but nobody is giving anyone a pass ...this article is about dragons dogma 2...not those games.

What is valid are in game features made to supposedly force you to think carefully only to have a surprise online store offer solutions to built in problems for more money.

Goosejuice32d ago

Those same things they are selling can be found Ingame as well. U can buy the character editor through merchants with gold. Don't get me wrong..I dislike these mtx they are doing but you don't need to buy them to be able to get them.

CrimsonWing6932d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Oh my bad, I can’t bring up games with microtransactions that nobody had a sh*t fit over. My mistake.

I love how people move the goalpost.

Crows9031d ago

@goose
@crimson

All mtx sucks. I'd rather helldiver's not have them because it makes me wonder if the rate at which you collect materials. That said. The games features are all fully enjoyable and aren't affected by the mtx.

That's not the case with dragons dogma 2...they left in place features that are supposedly part of the challenge of the game only to let you buy your way out very conveniently. I didn't look through all of them but I've heard some are rare but can be purchased with more money now. Even more so in a game about managing weight load there's a tent, I believe, that you can pay more money for that weighs less than your typical tent...not all sure on all the mtx and I'm aware that you can purchase many through in game vendor but they're incredibly useful mtx that are obtained much more slowly in game...or even a limited amount of them.

Instead is selling fast travel...just let us don't for free....or instead of selling cosmetic changes...how about letting us do it for free...

Nothing in helldivers comes close to this abomination

Angyobangyo31d ago

One is a single player game and one is a live service game. One is $40 vs$70. And most importantly, one game is there to spread democracy.

Ironmike31d ago

It's not incredibly easy for certain things in helldivers though u still have grind quite bit but u ate correct in saying u can eventually get enough medals to purchase stuff

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Moegooner32d ago

Read your comment again and maybe, just maybe you might realise how dumb it was.

CrimsonWing6932d ago (Edited 32d ago )

What was dumb about it? That I pointed out the hypocrisy?

garos8232d ago

It was extremely scummy that capcom hid this from reviewers. I have no doubt this game is good but these type of microtransactions don't sit well with me. They've lost a sale from me

Lionsguard32d ago

I was going to pay full price to support this game because I've been waiting for it for forever but I think I'll wait until I get it for free from Epic or a Humblebundle monthly.

Redemption-6432d ago

I am not defending Capcom, as I am not a fan of MTX in single player games. I do however belive they were open to reviewers about having MTX in their game. The reviewers just decided to leave that part out. Which is very disingenuous. There are some companies that get away with these things. Image if this was done by EA, Ubisoft, or even Activision? I am positive those defending Capcom, would have had their pitchforks ready if the companies listed above did this

anast32d ago

That's why reviewers can't be trusted. In fact, they are not reviewers at all. They get free codes to talk about stuff they don't understand nor care about.

Sanctusone31d ago

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with eyes...one of the items you get from deluxe edition was in game items.
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Which honestly I figured they kept a similar mtx system like DMC5 and the optional red orbs.

Lionsguard31d ago

1500 Rift Crystals doesn't mean anything. The first game had Rift crystals too, you just earned them by people hiring your Pawn and you get it from certain quests.

anast31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

A reviewer's job is to point out the obvious of a product as though they were the consumer. This means reviewers, to do their actual job, would need to review the complete game: the edition they are reviewing, how they got the game, technical aspects, story, and monetization scheme. Since, it is obvious that MT's are a part of the game, it would need to be reviewed. This way people can be informed, so they can decide if they want to play this style of game/monetization scheme.

For example, AC Origins was bad with Mt's. I had to farm side missions or pay to advance the story. This was after I already did close to 25 or more side missions. While I was grinding there were constant reminders that I could pay to ease the grind. I would have never bought the game if it were reviewed properly.

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