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Destiny beta was deceitful

With all the hype surrounding Destiny, anyone and everyone who acquired a beta code has played it. Now that the beta is completely open to the public until July 27, I can’t help but feel that the people who pre-ordered Destiny to play it early got swindled.

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admiralvic3556d ago (Edited 3556d ago )

" but feel that the people who pre-ordered Destiny to play it early got swindled. "

Please, just please... shut up. Not only do I never recall the beta being exclusive to preorders (so you can't really claim to be mislead), but it was never even that difficult to get into in the first place. It was quite clearly a marketing tactic to drum up interest and it was fairly obvious it would ultimately be open for all. With that being said, what in the world do you even lose now that the beta is open for all? It's not like it was exclusive preorder only DLC, a special edition or remotely unique, heck you could have preordered, got the code, redeemed it and cancelled your preorder in the span of 3 minutes if you really just wanted in, so I don't see how anyone in any reality could claim this was a swindle or deceitful in any way.

bunt-custardly3555d ago

Pre-order Destiny.

Grab code

Play game

decide if you like it or not

cancel or keep pre-order.

No harm done.

Ezee Peezee.

ErcsYou3555d ago

I WANT MY $5 BACK NOW... Lol.

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k3rn3ll3555d ago

I like how he is already judging the game based on a beta as to wether it was overjoyed. These newbie journalists kill me. They act like destiny is the first to do this. Which they arent. Yea they did it to boost preorders. But is it insane to think they could boost preorders and test servers at the same time? Oh gamers will always have something to whine about I guess

CorndogBurglar3555d ago

@ Pocker

You realize the $5 goes toward the game, right?

Darkstares3555d ago

I thought the only thing the pre-order offered was earlier access? Anyways I tried it and it's a fun game but I'm hoping the full release is a little more action oriented.

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Kingdomcome2473555d ago

@Pocker- I put five or ten dollars towards games through pre-ordering all of the time. It ensures I get whatever exclusive content may be available, and as is the case this October with a lot of games dropping at once, it helps if over time you've put five dollars here five dollars there on games. I'm almost certain that I'm not a full blown retard. Half retard perhaps.

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KINGOFTHEJUICE-3555d ago

Nothing is simple for stupid

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Madderz3555d ago

@admiralvic

Sorry to correct you but at first Bungie did say if you wanted into the Beta you had to pre order.

However i thought it was common knowledge that you can pre order for free and cancel?

I do however agree that the author is acting like a whiny little brat. Lol

admiralvic3555d ago

"Sorry to correct you but at first Bungie did say if you wanted into the Beta you had to pre order. "

I never said they didn't, I just said that I didn't recall the beta ever being touted as exclusive. I also did read a few articles before making that comment ( http://www.theinquirer.net/... , http://www.ign.com/articles... ) and even the official press release only referred to it as "invite-only" and preorders would get "early access" to the beta ( http://www.engadget.com/201... ).

"However i thought it was common knowledge that you can pre order for free and cancel? "

I did too, but many seem unaware or unwilling. I also think some people view it as way to force others into preordering it so they can boast higher interest during the beta or just overall because of it, even if some of it is just people who wanted codes.

"I do however agree that the author is acting like a whiny little brat. Lol"

Like I mentioned, I really don't see the problem. With Destiny being an online only game, it makes sense for them to open the servers. With the way they handled the alpha, preorders (even K-Mart gave beta access), the special edition (later so many people got 2 codes), codes giving 3 vouchers, Sony sending out multiple codes to people, some regions getting it for free with Plus, it was pretty obvious this thing wasn't going to be some extremely exclusive thing and eventually be open for all. Again, we don't lose anything and Activsion / Bungie has made $0 off those preorders, so it's not like you couldn't cancel if you think it's that bad or that people couldn't have as I mentioned and then Bunt mentioned again, preordered fast just to get a code.

Madderz3555d ago

"I never said they didn't, I just said that I didn't recall the beta ever being touted as exclusive"

Well what you actually said was; "Not only do I never recall the beta being exclusive to preorders".

Which led me to believe that you thought that the beta was not at first restricted to pre orders only (Which it was), aside from attending certain events and getting codes etc.

My bad. Wires crossed.

I totally agree with the last bit. There was even an article in here telling you how to get the Beta client from the store without even getting a code. I think I'd understand if people had paid to get into the beta and then they opened the flood gates. That would be more than justified but how somebody can moan about a free beta being given to everyone I just do not know.

OC_MurphysLaw3555d ago

just a point of clarification, in the US stores like gamestop require you to put down at least $5 for a pre-order and that is not refundable to my understanding but can be used for other in store credit. sites like Amazon allow you to pre-order without depositing money but do require a credit card to hold.

Spotie3555d ago

Dlacy: Wrong. So very wrong. If you haven't bought the game, you can get your money back, without problems. I have roughly $150 down on games and systems at my local store, and I can cancel all that whenever I please.

If you or someone else has has issues canceling, I suggest calling corporate, and finding elsewhere to shop.

This isn't just consumer info, but also coming from a former employee.

OC_MurphysLaw3555d ago

@Spotie good to know. Its been forever since I used Gamestop to pre-order I just remembered they require the $5 but couldnt recall if that was fully refundable or just store credit. Either way...its a crap system. They just want to use our money and earn interest off it.

ZombieDust3555d ago

@spotie, yup.... I have cancelled many preorders and got my money back, incliding my ps4 preorder. This is why it is so funny watching people cry about the beta now being open, first of all it was between 1 and 5 dollars you people put down (which goes towards price of game so not like really deserve anything special anyways), but its also refundable.

Screw pre-ordering at gamestop anyways. Preorder at target, you put down only a dollar, then when you pick up the game you get a 5 dollar gift card, this is with any preordered game. Then on top of that you can get the redcard which gets you 5% off anything and everything.

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joab7773555d ago

Arent there other things u get too or no?

This thing has been an open beta basically since the beginning. We even got to play the alpha if u were paying attention.

So, from this article, what I gather is that those who pre ordered get to buy the game in september and r guaranteed a copy on day 1 if that actually becomes an issue. Ok...so the downside os what? We get an amazing game. And those who play the public beta will probably pre order it.

Playing Destiny for an extra 4-5 days to help bungie out is better than many pre order bonuses. Ppl will write about anything.

admiralvic3555d ago

"Arent there other things u get too or no? "

There is the vanguard pack, but that DLC is early unlocks and not exclusive.

http://www.destinythegame.c...

"*Access to Vanguard Armory can also be attained through gameplay."

"Ok...so the downside os what? We get an amazing game. And those who play the public beta will probably pre order it. "

I think the "issue" is that people were supposedly lead to believe the beta would be restricted to preorders, which in turn "forced" people into preordering a game just to try it out and gave Activision inflated preorder numbers that they can flaunt. It seems to be part of the ongoing "preorders are evil and encourage companies to apply less effort" point some journalists are trying to get across.

"Playing Destiny for an extra 4-5 days to help bungie out is better than many pre order bonuses. Ppl will write about anything."

Like I mentioned above, opening the beta to all is a good stress test and will help (hard to say if it will prevent) the game from being laggy / problematic at the start due to its online nature. Naturally I rather have the server work at launch than an exclusive beta, but thats just me.

AO1JMM3555d ago

Preordered on Amazon. Received code in email. Canceled preorder on Amazon.

Nope didnt get swindled.

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Muzikguy3555d ago

Someone gave me my code otherwise I wouldn't even know how cool the game is (as in playing right now). Thanks!

GordonKnight3554d ago

It made me happy! As I have both PS4 &X1. Only pre-ordered for PS4. It was nice to see the small difference between the console. The PS4 is smoother, but experience was just as fun on the X1.

Maybe I should've also checked out 360 & PS3 versions as well. Oh well.

Happy gaming!!!!

Visiblemarc3554d ago

Yes, but every other article these days is about how the world owes the author everything. Is obnoxious, but I'm getting used to seeing it at this point.

468893373554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

Plus, you didn't even have to preorder to get access to beta. People were literally handing out beta codes all over the internet for all platforms. Bungie gave out three extra codes to anyone who reserved their copy early, specifically so they could be shared with other people who didn't want to preorder. I'm not surprised the author failed to mention this simple fact, because it destroys his entire argument.

No ones being deceived or mislead here. If you preordered the game to get access to the beta, despite other options being available, it is due to your own lack of research or personal choice.

christrules00413554d ago

I'm just hoping now that everyone can play the beta. That we our characters/items will carry over to the final product.

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mhunterjr3556d ago (Edited 3556d ago )

No sympathy for someone who thinks it's a good idea to Pay to test something. I wanted in on the beta, but there was no way I was going to buy the game for a chance to see if I'll like it or not. Now I get to do play it for free!

If you can't live with the idea that your investment might end up not being worth it, you shouldn't have forked your money over ahead if time.

HammadTheBeast3555d ago

Exactly, I only played the beta to see what it was about and now I'm seriously considering buying it.

CorndogBurglar3555d ago

Its been mentioned a hundred times already and its also common knowledge to any gamer. No one had to purchase the game to test it. You pre-order it, and the most anyone has to pay to do that is $5. Then, if you don't like it, you can always cancel your pre-order.

You sound very uninformed.

mhunterjr3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

Not really... You sound like you missed the point of my comment.

I'm well aware that preorders can be cancelled. But THE AUTHOR claims that to many, the preorder is a 'commitment'... A commitment he feels many people made based on the false 'promise' of exclusive beta access. I'm saying that beta access alone is a stupid reason to make any kind of commitment to a game.

The people who would be smart enough to cancel the preorder obviously wouldn't find this practice deceitful. I'm talkin about the hypothetical people whom this author claims were mislead.

(Note, I personally do not feel like preorders are a commitment, I was addressing the authors views)

Baka-akaB3555d ago

There shouldnt even be such things as preorders based betas . That customers of those practice feel burned and uncomfortable at the prospect of others accessing the beta ultimately without going through those hoops , should serve those folks right

GordonKnight3554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

It was my understanding that if you pre-ordered you were only guaranteed the beta. So, if you wanted to make sure you got the beta you pre--order.

pornflakes3555d ago

My god 80% of the topics here are TLOUR and Destiny. This is getting ridiculous since both games dont show anything innovative.

CloudRap3555d ago

May I ask then, what games you consider innovative because they all copy tidbits from each other thats just the way it is FPS will always play like COD RPGs will play like Bethesda games its just the winning formula no way around it unless you try to make a whole new genre.

Drithe3555d ago

95% of all the articles on this site are about TLOU for PS4. 10 about Destiny. I can understand the Destiny articles. It is a new game. But the TLOU?

This site was suppose to be about all gaming. Apparently it sold out to the highest bidder. When 1 article about TLOU has only 10 comments but has a 1200 rating, and a Destiny artcle has 150 comments but only has a 50 rating ........... that should tell you something.

CloudRap3555d ago (Edited 3555d ago )

You forgot all the Xbox doom and gloom articles and screen shot comparisons that comprise the rest of the articles. This site does have some good stories which is why I come here frequently but the majority are just fanboy click bait.

jmac533555d ago

Your saying that 105% of the articles are about TLOU and Destiny.

CorndogBurglar3555d ago

@ jmac

Hahahaha. Leave him alone. 50% of the time he's right 100% of the time. That includes times when he's doing simple math. Lol.

guyman3555d ago

Thank the glorious ocean that opinions, especially pathetic one's such as this are not representative of reality.

GamingSinceThe80s3555d ago

A lot has to do with how these are the only big games coming out in the next few months.These summer months have been the some of the worst in recent years.And with all the delays until 2015/2016 things mite get worse before they get better.I have a PS4,Xboxone,360,PS3,Vita,3DS and there are only maybe 6 new games at this point I'm planing on buying between now and next spring.Destiny,Bayonetta2,Smas h Bros U,SS Overdrive,HaloCE,Drive Club.

Jilokle3555d ago

@Trollflakes: Don't like it? Then why you keep coming and commenting? Why don't you try another site that suits better to your tastes like misterxmedia blog.

OT: Destiny its one of the most awaited games for this generation and TLOU is one of the greatest games of all time (all the gamesites and prizes says so)so its completely normal to have this amount of news about this games.

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Destiny Made Over $160 Million In Microtransaction Revenue In Less Than 2 Years

Destiny has made over $160 million in MTX revenue, and these numbers only account the data from late 2017 to early 2019.

Sgt_Slaughter326d ago

That's extremely low for microtransactions, especially for a game that's essentially designed around it

LucasRuinedChildhood326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

This was back when the game wasn't free to play.

The figures are from November 2017 to February 2019 (1 year and 4 months).

Based on that projection, the MTX revenue for Destiny 2 likely would have been closer to ~$240m for 2 years.

Not sure if premium expansions are included in that figure either although ... I'd hope that they are though and that most of the revenue was for actual content like Forsaken.

People spend way too much money on cosmetics.

Rude-ro326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

Seasons($10 and just got bumped to $12) and dungeon keys($10 each, two a year) are through the eververse(micro transaction) store.
So for those two years, in order to play a season, you would pay through micro transactions.

Sonic1881326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

Bungie Marathon will be worse since it's designed around it as well

Kurt Russell325d ago

It makes me sad to agree... but at the same time I am looking forward to giving it a go. Destiny 2 is so far in, I find it difficult to figure out what I am meant to do first.

buffig326d ago

I think FIFA alone makes over $1bn a year from mtx

anast326d ago

FIFA promotes a worldwide sport. It should make more money than destiny.

CantThinkOfAUsername326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

Let's compare something similar. Apex Legends and its ridiculous $18/$40 skins make EA a billion each year.

z2g326d ago

For as much as ppl complain how much they hate microtransactions, they sure don’t act like it. No wonder they aren’t going anywhere.

spicelicka326d ago

By "people" you're referring to millions and millions of people. Obviously the ones complaining aren't necessarily the same as the ones spending all that money.

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Father__Merrin326d ago

There's millions that purchase MTX and there's nothing we can do about it

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Stop Trying To Make Destiny

In Episode 1 of Spot On, a new weekly news show, Gamespot talks about the dangers of chasing a trend.

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Destiny 1 Becomes Playable on PC via Emulation

Playing Destiny 1 on PC has been something fans have been requesting for years. It looks like Destiny 1 is now playable on PC via the RPCS3 emulator.

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spoonard477d ago

I've been thinking about playing through D1 again before it goes away...

CobraKai477d ago

That’s the sad reality of a game like this. I bought it, invested lots of money, and it can go away at anytime. I still think this was more fun than 2.

jeromeface476d ago

prob because 2 is a grindfest slog

spoonard474d ago

That's the bummer of 'games as a service'.