DriveClub vs Forza Horizon 2 Raindrops Comparison: Which One Is More Realistic?

DriveClub and Forza Horizon 2 are two notable exclusives on the rival platforms. Forza Horizon 2 is exclusive to the Xbox One while DriveClub is exclusive to the PlayStation 4. Both of these games look great but in term of realism, which one takes the crown home?

[Majin-vegeta]

DC hands down.

@2pac.I'm sure it looks way better now since it's post E3 weather. http://n4g.com/news/1545753...

[LackTrue4K]

haha, the rain dropps on FH2 are just lamelessly sitting on the hood of the car, and on DC the look to be shifting when the car hits hard turns.

we all know its DriveClub....if any thing
i do give credit on
Forza horizon 2 has the best cardboard cut out
hands-down!

[Magicite]

Theres only so much X1 can do.

[guitarded77]

I can't believe how it goes from a discussion in one n4g thread to an article. I thought we resolved this in the previous story. DC looks better, and Horizon is an open world driving game, so it obviously wouldn't be on the same level.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Dimitri yeah it can do 200+ cars open world that's 3x as bigger than the first one, Drivetars, Siri like AI assistant Dedicated cloud servers and fully tunable and customizable cars.

Its obviously doing plenty your gonna troll at least try to make sense.

[Christopher]

@onyoursistersback: I don't see that at all about the shifting rainfall. What it looks like is a dynamic droplet animation overlay on the car and windshield. But, with the turns I've seen on the video, they don't change direction but continue going from the front of the car towards the windshield.

It's definitely more lifelike, but it definitely doesn't look like it's taking on the physical aspect of the car's motion from what I've seen.

[deepio]

Whilst I think DC looks better in the comparison shots, I don't think we've seen the same level of rain in FH2. In other words we're talking about heavy rain (DC) vs light rain (FH2). I don't think we've seen heavier rain in FH2 yet.

If you look at the IGN article the dev said "if it’s just light rain the tarmac will just darken slightly" - as we've seen. You'd also expect the rain drops to remain static on the car once the rain has stopped.

Who knows, maybe DC will still look better once we do see the same level of rain, but I'm just saying at the moment, this comparison isn't quite fair.

[MattE]

Its not even raining in the forza shot? Lol

Its a farce.. lets see how far the visuals take Driveclub when released. I for one will be enjoying forza whilst you guys play ur demonstration :)

[Goku781]

Cardboard cutout, thats funny, but true.

[calis]

"Theres only so much X1 can do."

Needs more cloud.

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

Instead of racing other cars and worrying about the upcoming turn, I'm going to stop on the road and admire the more realistic rain drops. I'd def buy a racing game based on which has more realistic rain. Racing? Please, that's just stupid. Hopefully we can compare which has more detailed clouds or possibly grass on the side of the road. I'd love a comparison of which game has better tire tread detail.

[Braid]

I'm looking forward to rocks on mountains and tree leaves comparison, completed with a compherensive, side-by-side dirt on tracks analysis. We're geologists after all, not gamers.

[gamertk421]

Lamelessly??? Hahaha, congrats on inventing a new terrible word.

[r2oB]

@ Pontiac

You should take time to admire the realistic rain, since it effects the way you race... I.e. handling, visability, and AI. Those are important aspects of a racing game, right?

[Darkstares]

This is where the console wars come into full effect and the losers are really all of them. That's because instead of wanting to enjoy both games they'd rather support one hardware company. That sounds like that company has turned them into slaves by design.

DriveClub looks better, there really is no argument but each game is different in its approach. One is wide open drive anywhere so of course there is going to be some trade-offs that comes with that.

[Sarcasm]

Forza Horizon looks like a racing video game.

Driveclub looks like CGI with more photorealistic lighting and field of view.

You decide.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Yeah, DC does look better, some really cool filtering they use! Forza Horizon 2 does not have cardboard cut outs like F5 did lol.
I can't believe how good DC looks though, Beautiful!

[Bobby Kotex]

@guitarded77 don't be surprised. This is the armpit of the gaming world.

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

@r2oB

I don't know, but is there varying degrees of weather in Driveclub? Meaning, you have a downpour, light drizzle, hurricane, etc etc. And the topic is "comparing rain drops" not "comparing the strength of the rain." Obviously if it's a downpour your going to drive differently then a drizzle, but the topic was comparing how the drops of rain look.

[FamilyGuy]

The audio in DriveClub is a beast as well as the visuals aaaaand on a technical aspect the handling in the rain looks incredibly realistic.

It's a beast from all angles and still made to be more arcade/casual so anyone can enjoy the game.

This is how you set a bar!

[MorePowerOfGreen]

"Theres only so much X1 can do"

Like the environmental simulations and almost full simulation of cars handling and physics in a open world plus destructible objects with online multi player?

If drive club was doing what Forza Horizon was doing it would look like a PS3 game. Despite your opinions of visuals DC isn't close to the technical level of FH2. Tuning, painting all parts handling and performing different.

Yes DC looks good for a basic arcade racer. Hell XB1 isn't even using all of its hardware yet, 100% of the Xb1 GPU is just now available for devs but only one CPU core is still being used.

[BallsEye]

So now we are comparing rainstorm to a sunny day with tiny tiny wetness. Again we're comparing an open world game to a closed tracks racer...and again the only thing that matters on n4g is graphics, unless winning console is not ps4.

Since we have dedicated article comparing raindrops (WTF!):

I'm waiting for the article comparing things that matter which is:

- numbers of cars druing the race (DC - 4 (YES, ONLY FOUR), FH2 - 12 + traffic)
- number of cars (DC-50, FH2 200)
- size of drivable area (DC - small closed tracks, FH2 huge open world)
- customization (DC-NONE, FH2-full customization, tuning, custom decals)
- car damage (DC-NONE, FH2 - costmetic and performance)
- online (DC- standard few players races, FH2 - seamless open world multiplayer exploration, 1000 players car clubs, 700+ events, Drivatars that learn and drive online, when you're offline)
- physics (DC - almost none, cars bouce of the walls, not affected by sings etc, FH2 - full physics with possibility to do barrel roll etc.

I guess this all does not matter if you can get some post-release, better raindrops. Need to start petition to turn10 to remove 18 cars from screen so it will be on par with DCs 4 cars as a tradeoff for raindrops upgrade. Totally worth it.

[DLConspiracy]

Yeah DC wins this match, partially because it's not even raining in the FH2 gif.

Tune in for next hour, for an article on 30fps vs 60fps from the same author.

[TheFanboySlayer]

@BallsEye ...you fail

"- numbers of cars druing the race (DC - 4 (YES, ONLY FOUR), FH2 - 12 + traffic)
- number of cars (DC-50, FH2 200)
- size of drivable area (DC - small closed tracks, FH2 huge open world)
- customization (DC-NONE, FH2-full customization, tuning, custom decals)
- car damage (DC-NONE, FH2 - costmetic and performance)
- online (DC- standard few players races, FH2 - seamless open world multiplayer exploration, 1000 players car clubs, 700+ events, Drivatars that learn and drive online, when you're offline)
- physics (DC - almost none, cars bouce of the walls, not affected by sings etc, FH2 - full physics with possibility to do barrel roll etc. "

Obviously you have not done any research on driveclub....you get 2 facts right Customization and number of cars, and club sizebut everything else is wrong.....

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

@cgoodno

You would need a really tight turn course (hard drifting or actually spinning out of control) to make droplets travel noticeably perdicular over the hood and windshield and even so it would only last a second or so... Afterall on pretty much any curve technique you are still going much faster forward than sideways.

@deepio

Just because the rain stopped, doesn't mean droplets stand still on your car. You are still moving forward, creating friction with air that pushs the water back. In fact, this is very visible, didn't you ever drove in the rain?

[Hercules189]

So when Ryse looked lots better than Killzone, it was because Killzone is a little bit more open. but when we're comparing a traditional racer that is basically a last gen racing game made for next gen compared to a completely wide open game that lets you drive between two different coutries and when Drive Club looks better its because the xbox one cant handle more, lol nice try trolls.

[BallsEye]

@TheFanboySlayer

oh my ... I did my research right, you better do yours.

You said I got 2 facts right, customization and number of cars and clubs...that's already 3 facts, you fail at counting.

So I guess DC is also open world since you said closed tracks is not a fact? Damn you need to get your poopers straight.

[TheFanboySlayer]

@BallsEye

Sorry bud I typed too quickly I meant to put 3

but whatever I didnt wanna have to review our comment....but I will.

- numbers of cars druing the race (DC - 4 (YES, ONLY FOUR), FH2 - 12 + traffic)

Wrong...it clearly says 12 on the top left for DC...for FH2 there is 8 + traffic

- number of cars (DC-50, FH2 200)

Good job you got this almost right...50 for DC but 200+ for FH@

- size of drivable area (DC - small closed tracks, FH2 huge open world)

DC races can last up to 25 mins long
FH has a huge drivable area

- customization (DC-NONE, FH2-full customization, tuning, custom decals)

You are right...none besides your club logo

- car damage (DC-NONE, FH2 - costmetic and performance)

There is cosmetic damage -__- but there are invisible walls to keep you on course in DC

- online (DC- standard few players races, FH2 - seamless open world multiplayer exploration, 1000 players car clubs, 700+ events, Drivatars that learn and drive online, when you're offline)

DC is online game with clubs...pretty standard FH2 is Openworld online racing as you would expect *claps*

- physics (DC - almost none, cars bouce of the walls, not affected by sings etc, FH2 - full physics with possibility to do barrel roll etc.

more physics based calculations than FH2 -__-
besides the ability to do a barrel roll lol

http://blog.eu.playstation....

and yess cars can flip

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[ShinMaster]

Is this what gaming has come down to? Comparing raindrops?
____

@ AngelicIceDiamond

- 200 cars? The number of cars a game contains has nothing to do with system performance. GT2 on PS1 had more cars. And it's not like they're being rendered simultaneously on screen for your point to even make sense.

- The first FH's world map wasn't all that dense in the first place. It was mostly made up of long winding roads. And while a 3x larger map is great, we've seen games like GTA San Andreas be 3x bigger than GTA3(both on PS2) and have quite a bit of wasted space.

- Cloud servers are external.
That has nothing to do with the Xbox One hardware itself.

- Tunable and customizable cars?
Yeah, because Forza Horizon is obviously so unique in that regard. Therefore games like NFSU couldn't have retroactively existed because it's only possible on Xbox One... right?

But don't get me wrong, I think the game is gonna be great.

[marcofdeath]

So FH2 is open world, and DriverClub is not.

DC has to use all it's GPU power no rain, XB1 has to do it all...

[GameNameFame]

Angelica that's special how? Lol.

3x bigger than Xbox 360 game. Is x1 so uniressive you have to compare to last gen?

[alexkoepp]

Neither are more realistic, no rain on the windshield?

[Giul_Xainx]

Drive club vs Forza 2. Which one am I going to buy? Drive club.

I don't care that much about graphics. I care more about which game looks like MORE FUN.

[morganfell]

I'm sorry but this is the next generation with new hardware. You do not get to play the open world card.

"My game doesn't look as good because it's open world."

Sorry (not) but that isn't an excuse when you are asking which one looks better.

It either does...or it does not. There is no try there yoda.

[Destrania]

@alexkoepp

DriveClub does/will have rain on the windshield. The cam Evolution used for these videos are hood cams though, not cockpit cams. Pay attention to what you say before you say it.

@hercules189

Killzone is widely regarded as having better visual fidelity than Ryse AND just so happens to be far more open. And don't even get me started on Infamous, because that game pretty much owns anything we've seen released so far on next-gen consoles, and also just so happens to be another PS4 exclusive.

DriveClub is set to take the visual crown for racing games upon release, and most likely the rest of this year. Above that however, it is immersive, unique, exciting, and fun. Winning combination.

This right here shows how dedicated Evolution is to DriveClub and the experience. No other racing game can touch it as far as overall attention to detail by a long shot. http://blog.eu.playstation....

[memots]

wow this made top the page !? .. SAD

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Oh boy I didn't see this comparison coming.

I'd have to say DC it was very impressive looking.

[Gazondaily]

Yeah DC wins rather easily.

Mind you, FH2 is an open world game so there's that. Still, visually, DC looks like what a next gen driving game should look like. It seems to have come a LONG way from last year.

[lfc_4eva]

There'll be a next gen comparison of the bird crap on the windscreen coming shortly.

[pedrof93]

@Septic

I'm not sure how much of the track world/track both consoles could render, but If you put into perpective, I believe that what X1 and Ps4 renders must be around the same size despite solely being a track (on Ps4) or open-world on X1. See the Open-world here have 2d static crownd models and the world is not filled with moving things apart from the cars. It not like a real Open-world like Infamous or Prototype if know what I mean !

[Mega24]

I was disappointed with the "no customization" though, Polyphony Digital takes a hint and allows at least custom paintjobs and some level of customization in GT7, I love circuit racing but I like my cars to be unique to me.

[aragon]

Silly comparison since we know do will look better, even tho the comparison gifs were unfair with dc heavy rain vs fh2 light rain

[Clover904]

lol at Forza's immovable droplets.

[lifeisgamesok]

With narrow tracks, 50 cars, and less objects in the background Driveclub should look better

Forza has to render grass and other objects

[Taislin]

@lifeisgamesok Your comment is all kinds of wrong. DC has just as many if not more objects in the background, it not only renders the croud,the trees, the grass, the dust and water particles,windmills, baloons, etc, all kinds of stuff, you name it, it also renders real time 3d clouds, an after the patch even puddles of water will be fully 3d rendered with real time drying conditions.No excuses, seeing as even the draw distance for rendering should be similar in both games.

[Sarcasm]

Sweet delicious bitter salty grimey tears from lifeisgamesok, I love it!

[THC CELL]

Power of cloud will make rain on xbox amazing, u can almost feel it.

[Ra3030]

And don't forget the cloud will allow them to have more cardboard cutout people and cardboard cutout rain drops for Forza 2H. That's the "powa of da cloud" and so next gen and only on Xbox One.

[showtimefolks]

DC will look much better its a true next gen racer. Both will be fun to play. FH2 is an open world while DC is a my kind of dedicated racer

I am just stunned how amazing DC looks, in a way it reminds me of PGR series(and the developers from PGR are at evolution studios now)

[IrishSt0ner]

Drive Club looks insane good and wins in practically every visual aspect.

I'm happy with 2 racing games in the same timeframe though.

[stuna1]

^^^This is the balanced comment that's unbiased! No racing game will be perfect! If you like what FH2 is offering buy it when it releases even if you have to drop the cash for a Xbox1 or upgrade your PC.

If you like what DC is offering buy it when it releases even if you have to drop the cash for a PS4. Both will offer value to racing enthusiast on both consoles and both look good.

[Kribwalker]

From the videos I saw yesterday I'd say DC looks better, but I'd also say the physics look like crap. You bounce off of everything. Other cars, side rails, hitting the signs do nothing either. Maybe in looks DC is better, but the physics looks like junk. Don't believe me, what the video again, with an open mind, then get back to me

[acdramon]

Well, since it's an arcade racer by design, DriveClub doesn't make cars completely break down from too much damage. The damage effects will still be there (layers of paint chipping off, deformation etc.) but this is one of the many ways Evo tackled evening the playing field among all people.

[VforVideogames]

Well lets see:
DC has 50 cars
FH2 has 200+ cars
DC can't customize cars
FH2 can customize cars
DC on road only racer
FH2 open world racer
DC has no damage on cars
FH2 has full mechanical and cosmetic damage
DC has no drivatars
FH2 drivatars
DC has no car clubs
FH2 has a 1000 car club members
DC no split screen
FH2 split screen
Both games are locked at 1080p and 30fps
so which one looks better on screen? DriveClub
gameplay and value? Forza Horizon 2
so which one to get?

[KinjoTakemura]

DriveClub does have damage. As for being able to drive where ever you want to, who in the world would want to drive a super car off road like you can in FH2? It just adds unrealistic gameplay to it's unrealistic looks.

Would you want to drive this car off road? For what?

http://turnlol.com/images/2...

[Godmars290]

"so which one to get?"

The one you own the system for, since neither is worth the sole reason to buy an XB1 or PS4.

Likewise this "discussion" is pointless with both sides acting on misinformed bias.

[TheFanboySlayer]

"DC has no car clubs"

-_____- the game is called DriveCLUB

you fail....

[LogicStomper]

@Kinjo

"who in the world would want to drive a super car off road like you can in FH2?"

Firstly for this argument, you have to take into account that there are more people that play racing games than people who drive super cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also, just to add 'realism' to the argument:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So in actual fact, there are people who want to drive super cars off-road for your information.

" It just adds unrealistic gameplay to it's unrealistic looks."

Absolutely flawed. You're saying that it's unrealistic to have super cars off-road. Well if you look back at the first two videos, it clearly shows two 'real' super cars off-road. Also to add, lets just assume that having super-cars off-road is unrealistic, how do you combat the situation? Invisible walls at off-road areas? Barricades that miraculously show up every time you drive in a super cars? Invisible walls and barricades that show up every time you're in a super car sounds pretty realistic. /s

I actually don't know why people agreed with you. If you (as a reader) did agree with Kinjo, I'm actually keen to know why.

[iiorestesii]

No drivatars?

[hiredhelp]

Seen it all now 3 pages of people battling it out on witch game has better Raindrops?.. Lol

[Elit3Nick]

You forget which site this is right?

[Ninver]

"people?" their mindless puppets

[DoubleM70]

You dummies it's not even raining in Forza2. Don't you all see the sun is about to come back out. You all do know you going to see rainbow coming out in the Forza2 footage.

[dkgaby69]

Always remember Watchdogs

[assdan]

It's hard to tell because of the fact that neither gif is in 1080p, which annoys the crap out of me when an article tries to compare graphics. I will say though that the water definitely looks far better on the hood of the car in DC, considering it's treated like a fluid and not a static marble. I'd say reflections are more realistic in DC, considering that the hood of a car isn't a mirror like it is in FH2. Lighting is hard to compare because the gifs are at different times of day. DC's environment appears to be more detailed as well. What I'll say is this. While looking at the DC gif, I could see how someone would mistaken it for an actual video, where as FH2 still has the video gamey look to its textures. Can't wait to see full res gifs and screenshots. That will make the differences very apparent.
Also just from a shear power perspective, we know that DC has to look better.

[The Shadow]

DC is more dynamic and much beautiful and realistic

Also the water droplets in FH2 stick on the hood surface doesn't react that way in real.

[2pacalypsenow]

is that really how Drive club looks?? :-O wow!!!! not even a comparison DC obliterates FO

[Qrphe]

DC has had a much longer development cycle, not that it would've helped FH that much anyway.

[THE-COMMANDER]

Both look great but as the article states its the detailed effects that gives driveclub the advantage.

Im really happy to see evolution studio raising the bar with driveclub, a huge step from motorsrorm. Can't wait for this!

[KingKionic]

Both look good but this comparison is kinda unfair.

In forza horizon 2 its sunny in that gif but in driveclub its stormy/foggy at a different time of the day.

A better comparison would be horizon 2 raining and foggy at the same time as driveclubs.

[MysticStrummer]

It's honestly kind of unfair anyway, since FH2 is an open world game vs DC's more traditional tracks. You can see the difference in everything, not just the raindrops. DC runs laps around FH2's visuals.

[ramiuk1]

it looks better than forza 5 aswell though,best looking racer period

[MysticStrummer]

Yes it does. Visually, DC's initial gameplay reveal was more impressive than F5's release.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I agree with Mystic.

Visually DC looks better than FH2.

[bigbic]

This video around 2:08 looks like the fog aspect in Horizon 2...
Probably a better comparison for Drive Club in this article.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Geoff900]

It's amusing to compare two games that very few on N4G have actually played, and even then it's more about gameplay.

Edit, I do think DC looks better than FH2, but seeing games in motion makes a massive difference, than watching a video.

[BitbyDeath]

DC but in fairness Forza is a crossgen game so it never really stood a chance.

[Highlife]

Actually two different developers and two different engines so no excuses.

[Majin-vegeta]

TBH both versions are being done by two different teams so yes it;s fair.

[Golden_Mud]

actually in real fairness , FH2 is an open world game , DC is a one tracked game , given to that this comparison is invalid .

[Flutterby]

Yet somehow infamous second son which is open world looks better and plays better than ryse which was linear as a hallway and about as fun as a stubbed toe.

[G20WLY]

So? How much of that open world do you think is being rendered at any one time?

Let's pretend for a moment that they have identical draw distances. If they had the same assets they would experience the same strain, open world or not.

Except the world in DC is far more detailed... in all fairness! :^)

[snookiegamer]

@IHassounah

Okay, have it your way. Scrap comparing Drive Club to Forza Horizon 2 since it is open world.

Let's just compare Drive Club to Forza 5.

Drive Club wins...is that better?

[Golden_Mud]

@snookiegamer yah , that's actually better :)

[Speak_da_Truth]

LOL Really??? ok DC Destroys it lighting everything not that FH2 looks bad but next to DC sorry its no comparison

[RichardDawkins]

Driveclub annihilates ForzaHorizon2. There shouldn't even be a comparison.

[skoorydook]

raindrops, seriously

[RichardDawkins]

Yes. When Forza Horizon 2 announced it had "dynamic weather" first and Driveclub's weather came as "DLC" shortly after the launch, people were criticizing DC for being an "unfinished game. Now Driveclub has shown us it's weather is better and people are like.."raindrops, seriously".

[skoorydook]

What are you babbling on about stop being so defensive, my comment had absolutely nowt to do with sticking up for one and downplaying the other it was referring to that people are now comparing raindrops, whats next snowflakes, how branches on trees blow in different wind speeds or how about if different tyres leave a different patern on the surface water depending on tyre brand, in case you haven't got it yet I think its a tad too far

[G20WLY]

^"whats next snowflakes, how branches on trees blow in different wind speeds..."

Yes. Why not? Is it too much to ask for attention to detail on our new next gen machines? Why should we not be interested in how far the developers have striven to create a believable world for us to enjoy in our games?

I find it interesting and it seems others do too.

[Spotie]

They're comparable features on comparable games.

When they do comparisons of cars, they even compare mundane things like the locations of cup holders.

[mcstorm]

@skoorydook its not worth it this site is just full of mine is better than yours. I cant wait for Forza Horizon 2 as Forza Horizon was for me the best racing game of last gen and this look to improve on it. I am still on the fence with DriveClub as it is not quite what I thought it was going to be but im going to wait until I get a chance to play it before saying its not for me.

I do find it funny though how people move to the smallest things when comparing games. Its gone from res, fps, now to rain drops it is really like a load of school kids on this site. I think gaming was better when it was seen as a geek thing there was less crap said about games and more fun in talking about them.

[skoorydook]

I'm getting both, prob day 1 for both, I just don't see the point in even comparing the core experiences of the two games one is a sim and one is an arcade racer, can't remember people comparing NFS to Forza or PGR to GT.

There are places in people's collections for both as both offer different experiences, I want to get all serious and tune,paint and do things like alter my gear ratio depending if the race is suited to top speed or acceleration then I play Forza, I want to defy the laws of physics and power slide round a hairpin approaching 100mph I play Driveclub but you're correct school kids would rather give each other a reach around and high five over raindrops.

[iR_phantasm]

U have got to b sh*tting me...

[LogicStomper]

Gonna be comparing them trees next.

[98xpresent]

That's pretty obvious . 1 looks like a cgi trailer & the other just looks good

[corvusmd]

They both look great, it's actually a rather close call...but when you realize that FH2 is an openworld racer with 200+ cars, seamless online play, voice controled GPS, tune-able cars, drive-atars, and weather effects at launch...it becomes much less of a comparison. It's clear that DC is aiming for just a more straight-forward racer, where as FH2 has much more going on. It's not quite the straight forward comparison one might think.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

True.

Forza as far as we know has a little more going for it.

[tuglu_pati]

I have to agree with you.

DC looks incredible and there is no doubt about that but comparing an open world racing game to a controlled environment game which has just cosmetic damage, no tune-able cars, only 50 cars to name a few things is not a fair comparison i mean is obvious DC is using most of the PS4 processing power on graphics.

Now with that said, DC looks more impressive than FH2 graphic wise.

[slasaru01]

You can also see that Horizon has better draw distance. In DC mountains and far environments are always in fog, not just these rainy screenshots, but on all of the others as well. I understand, it's another "artistic" method which saves power and lets you focus on closer things on the screen.

[Tedakin]

This is what it's come to. Comparing drops of rain.

[98xpresent]

Yesssss .And They look a whole lot better on DC

[Tedakin]

Forza Horizon 2 will be a better game ;)

[98xpresent]

The first one was really good !

[No_Limit]

Blame it on the rain - Milli Vanilli (or whoever sang for them)

OT, it is all good, the last thing I'll be concern with is how the raindrops look when I am speeding down the road. DC has better rain, I gotta to admit but Forza Horizon 2 has more cars and is an open world racer. Pick your poison.

[user7402931]

yea...DC all the way

[KakashiHotake]

Wow this is no contest. I think the gap in power of the two consoles is going to start becoming a lot more noticeable from here on out.

[slasaru01]

Exactly my thought! Compare 200 cars vs 50, number of tracks differs drastically with the open world, collision and environmental damage physics in Horizon, plus half powered simulation from original Forza, GPS, car tuning, better draw distance. Now every objective gamer should see the gap in power.

[hobohunterz]

Just stop...

[GTgamer]

You doooo know the amount of cars doesn't have anything to do with the power of the console righhhhht it has more to do with the time the Devs Had because if that was the case PS3 was the strongest console in yhe world since that game has a 1000 cars.

[Bathyj]

Driveclubs rain drops take into account the gravitational pull of the moon as well as the Coriolis Effect, reflecting whether the car is in the Northern or Southern hemisphere.

Im pretty sure the rain has more salt if youre closer to the coast as well reducing the chances of it turning to sleet.

;P

[fr0sty]

This is evolution studios we're talking about...

"The cloud cover and conditions you choose will dictate how much snow and rain will fall. The wind direction and speed determines where snow will settle. Then when it stops, the temperature and height of the sun governs how quickly clouds evaporate and roads dry out. We’re really striving for consistency in every detail just like we have done with everything else in the game.

You can expect every one of those and you can expect it to change dynamically and unpredictably while you race – because we’ve designed it to be just like real weather systems. Spots of rain can become torrential downpours or transition into blizzards, quickly or slowly, and when the clouds clear up the tracks will dry out too.

So if you’re in Norway, for example, you’ll face heavier snow when you’re racing atop the mountains and much lighter snow or sleet when you descend to a lower altitude. Lots of things play into this, like elevation, wind speed and temperature. We can even adjust all the way to zero visibility conditions too – the only limit will be the need to balance things for fun and usability."

[Flutterby]

I am pretty sure after this comparison the rain in forza has more salt lol

[snookiegamer]

@Flutterby

Lay off calling people a Douche 'Pixie Dust' LOL ;)

OT

Both games have awesome weather effects, but I think DC has more advanced/realistic effects ;)

[Clover904]

lmfao. Bubbles for you, not that you need any more :)

[kenshiro100]

Lmfao.

[Tedakin]

You're comparing raindrops in 2 completely different games. This isn't a fair judgement at all. Yeah DC looks better. But it's a totally different game with a different engine, different developer and different art style. It's sunny in one video, cloudy in the other. DC is a linear racer. Forza is an open world where you can go anywhere. Why not compare Sunset Overdrive and GTA5 to see which has more realistic character models. This is ridiculous.

[Speak_da_Truth]

You said "Forza Horizon 2 will be a better game ;)" even without both games being release yet but you are quik complaining about the comparisons. Both games are striving for realism in their visuals so I think the comparison is legitimate and DC comes out on top.

[Dehnus]

He said that in reply to another trollish argument replied to his original comment. But that you leave out of course.

[beerzombie]

I think one can make a good educated guess. Both games will be at least good, because both developers have a history of making good racing games.

[MasterCornholio]

So you would prefer if people compared Driveclub to a launch title like Forza 5?

[GTgamer]

And the winner is DC

[Daz]

forza 5 is 60fps so it wont work ;p and a launch game that is not delayed a year.

[Masterh0ppa]

DC better looks fh better game just gonna prefer the better game.

[bigbic]

Nobody knows how fun either game is yet... All we know is how they look.

[imt558]

Well, in FH2, sunlight reflection on the hood is pretty muddy. Environment reflection on the hood is pretty clean, but sunlight is odd.

[jhoward585]

DC weather demo was taken from an early build of the game. Still, it looks better than forza 2.

The final build of DC is going to destroy FH2.

[_LarZen_]

Both look good. But DC look's more realistic.

[MysticStrummer]

lol @ Those above comparing two games that aren't out yet and making definite statements about which is a better game.

Funny stuff.

[snookiegamer]

@MysticStrummer

Lol ikr,

The funiest one I read was...

'DC looks better, FH2 is the better game, just gonna prefer the better game'.

How dumb is that?

[Rimeskeem]

Ok first off they both look amazing and there is no doubt about that. But if for some stupid reason you are only looking for the visuals per dollar ratio. It's DC. Although the comparison is a bit unfair you can still tell that the raindrops and visuals are better in DC.

[brotherlymoses]

DC looks better, but Forzoa horizon will be an overall better game, visuals don't mean a thing *cough* RYSE *cough* killzone

[windblowsagain]

Killzone2 is an awesome game. 3 wasn't bad.

SF story isn't good enough. MP is good in places. Weapons are too big on the screen imo.

Anyway.

Yeah nextgen rain. lol.

Who can make the biggest splash. Kinda getting silly.

[FlyShootRaceSims]

We're comparing raindrops now?

[D3ATH_DRIV3R_777]

Driveclub.

[Ank666]

DriveClub is a track only NextGen. Game running on superior Ram & GPU
FH2 is an open world CrossGen. Game running on a lesser Ram & GPU

There was never a comparison to begin with

[DoubleM70]

No FH2 is not a cross-gen game. It built from the ground up on X1 engine. FH2 is totally different game on 360 do some research.

[Ank666]

Lol give link
& I heard same thing for TitanFall before

So please

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Drive Club. Hands down.

But one is linear and the other is open world, which is very demanding.

[koliosis]

Dc for now...

[Nik_P757]

This is the first I've seen of the weather in DC and it looks really good, I'm glad they took the extra time with it. It shows in the detail.

[Swiggins]

Driveclub definitely looks good, but come on people...raindrops...seriously ...

Gotta love them one-bubble Sony-Faithful users who just cannot help but chime in.

[Nik_P757]

I think it's the level of detail of the rain. I understand what you're saying but it's still pretty impressive that the raindrops are that detailed.

[Slick81]

Well it's over !?the rain drops are more realistic on ps4!im trading in my x1 today

[urwifeminder]

No other game I am looking forward to more than Horizon 2.

[Jack_Reacher]

Best bit about dc is 4+ million of us will get to try this game for the price if ps plus. Like a massive demo thats only restriction is the rest of the play areas. All game modes will be there.

Im sure both games will be great in there own right. Im sure this is the first of a million boring comparisons that slate towards one game depending on your agenda.

My final comment is to someone who earlier started on fh2 and cloud servers. Good luck with that. When your internet speed dips I will be interested to see what happens. Lets face it over here virgin medias super fastest broadband gets throttled every evening and weekend. So when your playing fh2 with cloud. Someone is watching netflix. Someone is surfing the net. Thats 3 people in a house catered 4. What happens.

Im sure some of you have some real smart answers. But reality is different than tv im afraid.

[lemoncake]

That's not my experience with virgin media, very fast and stable. But you also need to remember the bandwidth requirements on the drive avatars is extremely small, there is no way you would have a problem on a 120-152mb virgin connection even if you were on 5mb connection you would be more than fine.

If you do have a problem with many users blasting through your massive virgin media bandwidth then invest in a decent router and prioritise your gaming traffic.

[Jack_Reacher]

But many people dont have fibre and many people have a lot of compaints about the speed drops. As usual you comment as if your experience is the norm. And the majority of the world gets about 5mb. Sorry but that not going to cut it. Not when there are other users on the same router. Or should I stop everyone using the internet in my house when I game.

Its the same for ps now. Sorry but until I see that working in the wild im afraid I wont be bothering.

[DemonChicken]

like to add the fact when they close those dedicated cloud servers in god knows how many years considering they provide them for free gives a indication that it won't last (unless of course paid subscription or constantly constantly competitive multiplayer)

What most people don't realise is that your game good gfx won't last and is temp which I think is bloody awful. It's the fanboys in denial that mostly don't realise this fact.

[greenyboi]

Yet at 200mph mid race we will all be looking at raindrops

[Sonital]

I'm really looking forward to the air comparisons. That'll be the selling point for me..

[lemoncake]

Both look very impressive, personally though the only racing game i am waiting for is underground 3 with this type of graphics.

[BadlyPackedKeebab]

Driveclub but will still enjoy both for their own merits.

[kazuma56]

Very strange to compare an open world racer ( Forza horizon 2) with another who's not (DriveClub).

[GodGinrai]

Its a bit like comparing GTA5 with TLOU.

[Artemidorus]

It's fair to say Driveclub but Forza Horizon has still done a great job and a much bigger game with bigger features unlike Boreclub.

[LackaJaKane]

"DriveClub vs Forza Horizon 2 Raindrops Comparison: Which One Is More Realistic?"

I literally lol'd when i read that. lord have mercy

[neoandrew]

I dont care...

The Crew looks for me like more fun than both and really something fresh.

[iistuii]

When I sit down to play my Driveclub on release I won't even beable to compare raindrops because there won't be any to compare.

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

Evolution Studios is raising the bar for racers. DC wins hands down, but FH2 will still be an amazing game they both will. I'm definitely buying both.

[majorkilljoy]

i don't see the dc hype isn't it just another racing game like gran turismo?

[GodGinrai]

Its an arcade style racer. Different style of courses, to GT, also. You race in all racing games, but its choice of courses, play style(sim/arcade)and features that seperate them.

[JorboTron]

But drive club is only 30 fps!

DC looks amazing. That water is ridiculous. Kudos to the development they did a great job. ForzaH2 looks pretty good as well, but they are completely different games. No sense in comparing them. Nuc to know that games well just keep getting better as developers continue to take advantage of the hardware this gen.

[Gaming_Guru]

They are both racing games but it's good to keep in mind that Forza Horizon 2 is an opened world while Drive Club from my understanding is a typical linear racing game. FH2 might be a better comparison with GTA5 on current gen consoles than Drive Club.

[marlinfan10]

drive clubs clearly the most realistic of the 2. not to take anything from FH2 though, it also looks great. they're going after completely different styles of games. even with DC looking better I'm probably still more interested in forza just for the fact that its open world. just my opinion though

[GodGinrai]

I agree. DC has better graphics, but Forza has the meat...then theres that forza style handling, out in the open world. It just does more for me.

Still dont know how the cars drive in DC, but it certainly looks stunning.

EDIT:Fuck it...ill just get both. Ill buy DC little later on...still got project cars to deal with, plus everything else thats coming out..I Only got so much time.

[gamer7804]

Neither game is out yet... Comparing inconsistent YouTube videos? Let's wait til both release, but in any event they are different types of racing games

[Yaay4me]

Its not that FH looks bad its just Drive club looks insane. My jaw was dropped when i saw the video in HD.

[cruzngta]

Well the fact is that DC ONLY has 50 cars and 55 tracks. It is a linear track restricted racer, no full mods and 6 player car clubs. I would HOPE they could at least achieve some nice graphics when they are not pushing anywhere near what Horizon 2 is doing = 200+ cars, 700 events, full mods, dynamic weather and day time (NOT patched in weather like Delayclub), as well as being completely open world. Not even close. PS4 fans are so quick to try to find something to hold onto to make them feel superior but the fact is you are going to finally (if its not delayed again) get a racer while XB1 has gotten 2 amazing racers in less time since launch. Thats pretty sad. I know this comment sounds hateful and stupid but it is in response to the stupid hateful people on here who like to downplay anything XB1 offers and feel a stupid need to criticize for their lack of PS4 games when XB1 fans are getting a bunch this holiday. To each his own I guess. Forza Horizon 2 looks INSANE for EVERYTHING it is pushing content wise in the game so when they come out this fall we will see which sells better and plays better. Guess we will just have to wait and see. I do remember the first Horizon did real well appealing to lots of casual racing fans as well as hardcore - gonna be interesting to see this time. Have fun waiting for your patched-in weather and keep drooling on yourselves looking at these vids while you wait. We get weather DAY 1.

[StifflerK]

Dc has the best graphics, FH2 has the best gameplay features - they both look like great games worth playing.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

@StifflerK

I'm a Forza fanatic, but I'm with you on this one. I feel the graphics of DC are slight better against FH2. But it's the open world experience that makes FH2. And we haven't seen much of Project Cars neither.

[Gore-Content]

Driveclub is gonna be INSANE! Screw forza.

[D-riders]

Looking at the scenery. Drive club is on another level

[Dirkster_Dude]

The view from the cars are different. In DriveClub it is raining and in Forza Horizon 2 it is not raining, but showing a wet street after it has rained. The videos were taken at different resolutions, but we both know they support at least 1080p/30fps. Since we know the minimum output resolution and frame rate of the game and the videos are clearly not shown at that resolution how can anyone actually make an objective judgement based on that fact alone? Let us be honest - you can't.

[King_of_Nothing]

Both are impressive looking, but DC..just wow!

[TheTowelBoy]

I think they're both really impressive with what they're both trying to accomplish. Really though I'm not sure which one I'm gonna get. Just wish it was easier.

[Azzanation]

Isn't is crazy how FM5 got released and was the best looking racing game at the time even after the downgrades, however everyone critized it for lack of content, while DC seems to be the best looking racing game to date also lacks a lot of content yet no one cares? While FH2 is full of content (claimed over 100 hours of gameplay with over 700 events! and over 200+ cars and all customisable) while DC doesn't...?

Fans contradicting themselves again.

[marlinfan10]

Deep down its not about content or graphics to sony fanboys, its about being on ps4. Anything on ps4 is automatically better to them no matter how hypocritical they sound

[XxDefiance42xX]

We're comparing raindrops.....

[feraldrgn]

For an open world game, it sure looks like enclosed roads.

[Gunstar75]

Yeah, those fields looked very enclosed......?

[feraldrgn]

My bad, was judging it based on that rain pic.

[Revengeance]

DriveClub looks like the better game.

When it comes out it will PLAY like the better game as well.

[KinjoTakemura]

Images from DriveClub in the rain

http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...

http://images.pushsquare.co...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m...

Images from Forza Horizon 2 in the rain

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/...

http://i.neoseeker.com/n/6/...

http://i6.minus.com/ibrUVmv...

http://www.fanbolt.com/wp-c...

Just something to note, the rain drops on the cars in the driveclub photos appear to be blown across the body of the car while while the rain drops for Forza appear to be stationary, even while the cars are moving?

[Gunstar75]

Interesting.... The final DC image clearly shows that the rain effects are symmetrical. The right hand side of the bonnet are a copy of the left. That's not exactly dynamic is it...?

[KinjoTakemura]

Rain moves when it is in the path of wind. There is no set pattern or set "way" for the water to move across the hood it looks completely random, just like in the real world. Haven't you noticed a similar effect while driving your own car in the rain? The droplets tend to split and either move left or right across the hood and the windshield.

[imt558]

This screenshot you comment on is from ANOTHER RACING GAME.. I don't know from which one. Look at the date in this article ( and that screenshot ) :

http://gearnuke.com/drive-c...

And weather effects in Driveclub were announced a month ago @E3.

And these are the first screenshots after weather announcement :

http://i.imgur.com/uY6lx9u....
http://i.imgur.com/V5uzKrV....
http://i.imgur.com/4Scywyi....
http://i.imgur.com/z7uVpaW....
http://i.imgur.com/6sFtBOu....
http://i.imgur.com/ghhV4WJ....
http://i.imgur.com/Catbdg8....

I know that screenshot you comment on is not graphically Driveclub level. And i really don't know why Gearnuke use that screenshot.

[Dewitt]

I'm not believing anything that Evolution puts out after that Motorstorm trailer back in 06 that turned out to look nothing like the game. All I am saying is temper your expectations.

[Gunstar75]

When are we getting the "dynamic squashed insect on windscreen" comparison. I'm moist with anticipation for that one.

[Justindark]

Are we honestly comparing raindrops now? Gamers today need to focus on game play and actually playing the games instead of graphics and fighting over who has better rain drops...

[Troncept]

I miss the days when us gamers could just play games and not worry about which racing game has more realistic raindrops. Those were the days.

[Haki1112]

Rain drops?? Really??? Hit me up when Drive Club has car customization and open world. Ill rather have that game play than pretty raindrops.

[heisenberguk]

Does the rain still fall straight down the bonnet when turning corners on DC?(Can't tell with the footage) Surely it'd fall sideways instead?

[Flames76]

Forza horizon 2 no doubt here

[Father__Merrin]

DC easily, in fact anyone who says otherwise is clearly possessed!!!

[brianunfried]

DriveClub looks real, Forza looks like a video game.

[azure1990]

You can say DC looks better which is true. But keep it in
M ind it's not open world it also only has 50 cars. Forza Horizon 2 beats them in that category. Bigger crew based, 200 plus cars, and it's open world. They both have pros and cons. Honestly they are two different games, why compare?

[fossilfern]

So its came down to comparing rain drops ? Not to sound fanboy but if the only thing people are finding interesting about DC is the rain drops then it speaks volumes for the game. But I will get downvoted as per-usual.

[khuram_f6]

Its funny when someone agrees that DC wins in the visual department, but then gets disagrees for saying Forza is open world.

[2cents]

SO the game that has better rain droplets in this comparison is obviously the one that has rain falling in it right?

This is so sad that The Playstation fans are trying to rub in the face of xbox fans that rain droplets look better on a more powerful console on a game that has had almost a year of delays to constantly try to achieve better fidelity. What a deserved victory.

To all the rabid PS fans in all the comments above. Well Done! clap clap clap, show everyone else how to be humble knowing your already in possession of the most powerful games console on the market, show everyone how to gloat with no style whatsoever. Well done trolls, well done.

[ComBaTs0uL]

What aload of pathetic crap, comparing rain drops? Lol you people ain't gamers.

[360ICE]

Wow, both games looks really good. Drive Club's rain looks way better, but I'm pretty impressed by the graphics level of both.

[Yaay4me]

graphically there is no comparison. DC wipes the floor with ForzaH, and Forza5.

[iain04]

The rain looks nice on DC. Not sure how much I would take my eye off the game to marvel at the rain

[leogets]

Bit out of order puttin up a screen shot of ridge racer against driveclub

[RzaDaRazor]

Fogclub

[hkgamer]

So it's come down to how raindrops look? Really?

They both look good. Nothing spectacular.

[shadyiswin]

smh@ the things i see on n4g lol

first off,those are two different type of rain effects,one is during a rain storm (DC) and one is after it rained (FH2) so of course one has rain beading up the hood versus one has rain on the car. I can guarantee forza will have those same rain effects when its heavy rain versus light rain. Forza will sell more,play better and overall put driveclub into early retirement and have your sony fan boys saying "gt7 is coming soon" forza shut down gran turismo in just 4 installments and forza horizon will shut down driveclub ,nice 1 2 punch from microsoft.

Secondly,you dont even get weather when the game is released lol. Suddenly everyone forgets about the driveclub DRM but still bring up drm on xbox one lol. You are getting a launch title a year later that couldnt even compete with forza 5. Now a year later you are getting a unfinished game that cant compete with fh2 and youre excited? could it be cause you only got 2 exclusives so far this year? (infamous and mlb) sony fans really need a reality check. driveclub will be a dud eventually becoming a pack in because they will have so many extra copies laying around. Have multiple seats sony fans.

[Evil-Gouki]

I wonder which one will be the most FUN to play? and they both look great, I'd imagine DC will pip it for graphics being on the slightly more powerful machine and using closed circuit style tracks. I'm getting real excited for both though!!!

[sebzhd]

Bye bye Forzaliasing, you know your master, Drive Club

[Give_me_head_strong]

I wonder how long you'll have to wait for an exclusive open world racing game with weather? I'd say at least until 2016, lol.

[Firebird360]

I understand why people want to compare these games but at the same time it's not really fair to either game. One is a closed course racer, the other is an open world so they're on 2 different levels. Drive club looks better but at the same time its remarkable how good horizon looks.

[Give_me_head_strong]

I'll be playing with variable weather this Christmas on Forza Horizon 2, with open world to boot. Have fun playing linear tracks with 50 cars, while waiting for the rain to be patched in, Driveclub fans.

[SKullDugger]

Your variable weather will be rain and fog thats it no snow or sleet. Both these games look great and will be fun but DC has better graphics and weather effects. I hope you enjoy FH2,I myself with own both.

[phantomxll]

Um... this article is a complete fail.

[SKullDugger]

DC looks better then FH2 but it may not be as deep with the amount of cars, but I think with the extra power the PS4 has it will be just as fun. It looks amazing!!

[neomahi]

I really wish people wouldn't post articles like this. He was off to a good start but completely flopped. Don't post articles that have no legitimate end--meaning don't bother posting a title like that without having a conclusion. It's like having a debate speech with no end, you just stop three-quarters of the way through. Or a research paper or thesis that is only three-ninths of the way through.

I swear, people do this just to get views. Well guess what, neutrality can only go so far to try and appease your readers before someone catches on and rolls through and destroys you.

[Kennytaur]

I'm so glad these games went for realistic raindrops instead of 60FPS...

(not really, but I'm still getting both)

[manchesterman22]

let the kids argue again, shame this site is full of them

[JCOLE13195]

They both look good, but Driveclub looks much better in my opinion.

[kewlkat007]

lol raindrops? One game is shown in a cloudy day situation while the other has glazed water roads on a sunny day..doesn't make much sense when you look at the environments...

[Ko_Uraki]

Both look great

[diesoft]

Are we really at the point where we're making articles comparing realistic rain?

[Indigon]

I like both. I just don't like it that Horizon 2 forces you to use shortcuts to keep up with the competition, leaving the road and barging through fields with no consequences.

[vork77]

i will say mario kart

[windblowsagain]

After looking at them again.

I've decided that Horizons rain looks more like tears rolling down cheeks of who voted green.

Only way to know which is better, Play both.

I have NFS RIVALS on PS4 and the game looks excellent in graphics and has some offroad parts as well as cops etc.

I actually really want a new Motorstorm.

More like MS1 but with more varied tracks like 2.

Destruction in 3 wasn't needed.

[horndog]

I'm sure the rain drops on DC look better at the moment ON ALL 10 CARS!! Or so in this very linear game and who doesn't stop to admire rain drops when racing but i'll have to pass and go for the 200+ cars which I can customize in an open world game which also has rain that looks next gen as well. At least in fh I will get more cars than rain drops.

[Enigma_2099]

*sigh...* So now we're comparing raindrops?

[horndog]

Come on now, you act all surprised. You know this is n4g right?!

[level 360]

DriveClub no doubt about it.

So obvious.

[FreakyFox]

Drive Club continues to impress me, i didnt even think about the rain with windforce on the bonnet, it is another nice touch of realism.

Not a massive selection of cars , but it has a Audi R8 so that makes me happy.

[Mkai28]

I'll give it to DC even though no rain was shown on FH2, just wet roads. But I think even if they show a down pour in FH2, DC would still take it. Let's just hope DC is not the RYSE of racing..

[ninjahunter]

Seriously? I have never been more disappointed in gaming as of right now.

[aPerson]

Came here to say the exact same thing. Arguing over which raindrops are more realistic? Sad.

[Jag-T1000]

I don't drive in the rain.

[jairusmonillas]

Forza Horizon 2 look like a last gen game and they just added lots of shiny effects that's it, Driveclub looks a true next gen racing game.

[marloc_x]

30 fps?...tsk tsk..

[NNoyingHusband]

FH2 is killing DC in every single way. Just wait until the reviews come out. FH2 will put DC to shame. I'll bet my combat patch on it.