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PS4 Exclusive Driveclub Won’t use the PS4 Camera; Lack of Performance Customization Explained, More

Driveclub Game Director Paul Rustchynsky answered today quite a few questions from the fans, sharing more information about the upcoming PS4 driving game.

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nicksetzer13575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

Wow no car customizations? I feel like this game is missing a lot for such a long delay. Only 50 cars and no weather at launch either. I am sure the game would be great, but those are features I like a lot.

@imt did you read my comment? I said "at launch." (And a year delay, mind you) Also, I wouldn't consider paid DLC (instead of a larger lineup) a plus....

Also, realize what you said, PS2. I am not saying any of those are required, but when the direct competition (the crew, project cars and forza horizon 2) offer more cars, full customization, etc. You kinda get bummed seeing it missing is all.

imt5583575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

Let's say that You have Pagani Huayra in real-life. Perfect supercar. You want to tune this car? I see no need or any reason for tuning powerful cars in game.

@Bonkerz :

barely any customization in a CAR RACING GAME, the disappointment in this title will be very strong.

And? Did your ever play Ferrari Challenge Trofeo Pirelli. CAR RACING GAME and no car tuning. And game is quite good.

nicksetzer13575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

Yes, I like to tune my cars for drifting, drag racing, circuit races, etc. Not to mention creating amazing paintjobs. If you don't fine, but don't try to fool yourself into thinking a missing feature is better than having it.... options > no options.

Also, let's be clear real life != a video game.

EDIT: @Zueanimals project cars, forza horizon 2, forza 5, nfs rivals and the crew all have car customization ...to put that in perspective, every announced and released current-gen racing game (of any genre) has had/will have car customization to some extent, other than driveclub.

Again, though, I am not saying it is REQUIRED it is however, disappointing to see it missing.

system223575d ago

That's part of realistic racing. You adjust your ride height, tire pressure, downforce etc depending on the track, weather, surface etc. that's like choosing players for your football team. Part of the strategy. That's why sims are so much more engaging and interesting to me. Also why I was getting disappointed about this game. Too arcade.

zeuanimals3575d ago

@Nick and system:

It's an arcade racer, only sims allow you to tune the cars. Some arcade racers allow you to upgrade cars with generic all-encompassing parts, but most just give you a stock car with its own specs and that's it.

Sitdown3575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

@imt558
Haha.... That has to be the best spin I have seen in a while. Could just be me...but when I think of clubs and driving, I typically think of tuning.

Future_20153575d ago

''Let's say that You have Pagani Huayra in real-life. Perfect supercar. You want to tune this car? I see no need or any reason for tuning powerful cars in game''

biggest damage control line i have heard for a racing game

No_Limit3575d ago

@imt558,

LOL, I remember you posting this.

http://n4g.com/news/1500715...
imt558 + 67d ago
P-CARS are also 1080p/30fps on PS4/XO, confirmed last week.
Driveclub...so much visual fidelity, so much stuff going on @rock solid 30 fps... I'm fine with that. At least this game has NO DOWNGRADES!"

You are right, it has no downgrade, it just didn't upgrade to match what should be standard in racing games now a days...like Performance Customization.

NextLevel3575d ago

Yeah, cause Forza 5 is such a sim, compared to Driveclub.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

PS, The GT6 one is a glitch, but still absolutely ridiculous.

zeuanimals3575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

@Nick:This game is channeling Project Gotham Racing, one of Xbox's most beloved arcade racers. Those games didn't have any customization beyond paint jobs and you know what? They were still amazing. Hell, people are demanding for a new one and most people who want a new one don't want customization because they want it to keep true to the franchise. Well, Driveclub is the closest thing to Project Gotham Racing we're gonna get.

Destrania3575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

Trolls... Trolls EVERYWHERE!

People who have no interest in Driveclub should stay off Driveclub related articles instead of pointless bashing on a game that will no doubt be visually superior than any other racer this year, and more importantly, be an exciting and fun experience. Car customization =/= gameplay. There are other racers coming this year and next that will have a focus on that sort of thing. Does that mean that the actual racing will be better? Heck no. All the off-base hate is just a sign of jealousy imo.

liquidhalos3575d ago

@imt let's say in real life you have a pagani that you use on the race track for, well you know, racing. Would you want to increase performance through tuning?

No_Limit3575d ago

@Destrania,

LOL, it sounds so ironic and comical coming from you.

You sure didn't think twice when you trolled on Forza Horizon 2 (on a Drive Club article, at no less).

http://n4g.com/news/1530134...
Destrania + 25d ago
"Except Forza Horizon 2 looks like poop in comparison and probably handles as such. Dat cross-gen amazement /s. Want a next-gen arcade open-world racing game, Ubisoft has you covered with The Crew. At least Driveclub is different, astonishingly beautiful and with intense and exciting racing, which is really what matters most. PGR fans should be very excited"

Please, the old saying, if you can't take it don't dish it out. smh

Destrania3575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

@No_Limit

I think your key words there are 'in a Driveclub article'. At the very least I don't go out of my way to bring people down who are excited about another game. Sometimes I don't respond in kind to trolls who are on PlayStation related articles, and for that I am sorry. I just get sick of it every once in a while, and don't always keep a cool head when hateful people make blatantly wrong, wholly biased, and often dillusional statements.

Now, if you don't mind, back to Resogun.

Giul_Xainx3575d ago

When it comes to new racing franchises everyone thinks. OH! I CAN FJNALLY PUT A HALO KITTY ON MY CAR!

Grow up kids. It is a brand new game. Car customization is patented by an older racing game found on the Nintendo 64.

Not even midnight club or need for speed had any good customized paint job settings.

Grand Theft Auto doesn't have customizable paint jobs either. And when it comes to the amount of actual customizatikns in any racing game they never have anything that I like anyway. Nothing looks as cool as the real life custom rides you see at car shows.

PS. Wipeout doesn't have customization options either.

All I see is a little kid who wants to drive an anti aerodynamic flintsy flossy bright neon pumped shiny engine block down a race track.

I don't.

And if they do add customization in the game, force the player to choose between tune ups for their car versus cosmetic changes. Weigh them out so it emulates real life pricing indexs and prize money.

marlinfan103575d ago

@giul

when most of us talk about customization we aren't talking about the paint job. were talking about building the cars. go look at how detailed forzas car customization is, its sad they couldn't be bothered to put anything in DC. especially after a year delay and only 55 cars

ovnipc3575d ago

Sheep. This is a game. And in a racing game I want options. The thing I like the most on a racing game its to customise the car. Different engines, adding a turbo, making a car twin turbo when is single. Tuning up a civic that can match a Ferrari. Don't bee blind. Forza and grand tourismo offers that options.

ALLWRONG3574d ago

"People who have no interest in Driveclub should stay off Driveclub related"

You mean like how you make comments in Xbox related news? hypocrite.

JackBNimble3574d ago (Edited 3574d ago )

well I was interested in this game until now!

It could have been a hit , but I think I will be a big miss. Pro sony over here, but Drive Club will never be in my library until they fix this.

@Giul_Xainx... you can paint your car in GTA V, you can even modify your car. I don't know what you are talking about, but there is customization in GTA V.

bigbic3574d ago

Honestly, as someone who has been excited for this game, I don't understand this. This game has been delayed for so long and they don't have even basic customization? The social aspect of this game better be revolutionary, because that's where the resources are going...

LonDonE3574d ago

@nicksetzer1
EXACTLY!! the damage controlling of some fan boys is laughable.
EVEN MARIO KART 8 HAS CUSTOMIZATIONS!! LOLOLOL
the more i hear about this game the more i think WTF?? Forza Horizon is going to destroy drive club when it comes to content! seriously just what have they been doing? its not even open world like forza horizon its nearest competitor and still its 30fps? yes forza is 30fps but being open world its understandable, but for a non open world racing game? LOL

I am not a hater i play and own all platforms but come on man Sony is blatantly repacking this playstation plus game as a full retail release! its obvious it was supposed to be a psn plus downloadable and now Sony is trying to charge full price for it! Forza horizon is going to be awesome and drive club is going to look stupid going up against it!

marcofdeath3574d ago

It's shit Do to you SONY FAN BOYS saying it was in the same class as FMS5 or FH2, we now know that it's not even close. FMS5 was a downgrade/ or ran out of time , it's still doing 2x the work of DC with the 2D clouds. 30 VS 60fps. DC is great looking cake until you take a bite and it's cardboard on the inside.... So how's that PS4 50% power looking now. ..

Kingthrash3603574d ago

I'm no racing gamer...but even I'm disappointed in this lack of tuning your car..IMO its like half the fun...bad move Sony.

Xsilver3574d ago

all you guys attacking DriveClub about Tuning have clearly never been interested in DriveClub because Since Last Year Evolution Said they would be No tuning in all those article about DC :/ so did you guys get amnesia or are you guys looking for reason to bash DriveClub I wonder.

Forn3574d ago

People realize that a long time ago this was confirmed right? This isn't new information, I'm not sure what people expected. I agree it's kind of a bummer, customization is always fun. That doesn't mean they can't add it later, and it also doesn't mean the driving gameplay suffers in any way. Is there something wrong with a pick up and go type of racer? No, not imo.

otherZinc3574d ago

Now see...more "downgrades".

This is getting ridiculous. They were hyping this game for a
long-time, now what?

With all these omissions, cutbacks, & changes why is Drive Club not 1080p 60fps?

Wow at some of the excuses around here...
I'm glad some SONY boys are being honest about these Drive Club omissions, cutbacks, & changes.

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zerog3574d ago

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but did want to point out that this is the same devs that gave us motor storm. It didn' t have any customizations either outside of picking your paint job but it was an awesome racing game and I bet the core game play in drive club will be just as good. The customization options are nice to have but I've always had the feeling in the back of my mind playing games that have them that I'm spending too much time doing that then racing so it don't really bother me too much. It being an online social game the option to give your car its own unique look would be the only thing to really matter to me in customization.

AnotherGamersOpinion3574d ago

You said 50 cars? Seriously? 50 cars? Thats it!?!? Why?

strifeblade3574d ago

Oh that's because they want to sell u dlc.horizon 2 has over 200 cars.

elninels3574d ago

Be patient, Gran tourismo will be hear some day. Just wait.

MysticStrummer3574d ago (Edited 3574d ago )

"Wow no car customizations?"

I thought we knew this for awhile. Maybe not. People still seem surprised that it's not a sim too.

"when the direct competition (the crew, project cars and forza horizon 2) offer more cars, full customization, etc. You kinda get bummed seeing it missing is all"

I'm not sure I'd call those "direct competition" since they're all a bit different from DC. Open world and/or more sim oriented. I guess maybe you mean when they're released.

Either way, DC will at least get a lot of people to try it out because of the PS+ edition. If it's fun, people will probably buy it, though maybe not right away. I'm not all that into sims, though I usually feel compelled to buy at least one Grand Turismo per generation, and the open world racing thing doesn't appeal to me so I'll check out DC and maybe get Project Cars later.

As for the number of cars, I'm actually more interested in the number of tracks. Between 55 tracks and the weather/time variations I think I'll have a lot of fun with DC.

showtimefolks3574d ago

This game is a love child of Evolution studios along with developers who made Project Gotham Racing. Last time i checked PGR didn't have a lot of these options yet it was an amazing series

I personally can't wait to play Drive Club, i think we will see many updates after release to add a lot of stuff.

masterfox3574d ago

You can try it for free first if you have plus, if you like it upgrade to a full version if you don't simple don't buy it.

Knushwood Butt3574d ago

It was never announced as being in the game previously, so why throw your toys out of the pram now?

Wait, this game isn't a sim??!! Well, I'd rather eat my hat than put down my hard earned cash on this abomination.

bennissimo3574d ago

This game had a lot of promise at reveal...

Now? Not so much.

frostypants3574d ago (Edited 3574d ago )

I like the idea of no car performance customizations. Makes the game more about who the best driver is than who's the best at digging up car setups all day on Google. Also, it makes sense if their fundamental design philosophy is to get you into a race ASAP. Hopefully this means that they've got the inter-race load screens to a minimum as well. That's what always kills me about some racing titles...the eternity between races.

DoctorXpro3574d ago

50 cars compared to over 200.
12 person car clubs compared to 1000 person clubs
No dynamic weather at launch, compared to fully Dynamic Weather, lighting in FH2
No damage or ability to tune your car in DC, full ability to do both in FH2.

BallsEye3574d ago

I bet it's all just to meet today fanboys standards which is 1080p at atleast stable 30 fps. Wish they would polish the gameplay more, add depth etc not just push graphics graphics graphics. Turn 10 is about to release their SECOND big next-gen racer with huge open world, dynamic lighting, dynamic weather, 200+ fully customizable cars, 700+ events, seamless online, drivatars and much more. Driveclub got delayed like twice, it has very few tracks, 50 cars. no dynamic stuff and now we hear no customization. How does that even compare? DELAYED TWICE FOR WHAT? 1 milion trees in the background??

truefan13574d ago

We have been able to customize cars for several generations now, I can't even call Driveclub a last gen game. No car customization just sounds weird with racing games we have played for 10 years now. At least ps+ gamers get a majority of the game free, because it definitely doesn't sound like a game worth $60.

BallsEye3574d ago

Since when gameplay and depth matters? 1080p is what makes a game/s

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imt5583575d ago

Did you read the article :

"...there will be “plenty” more cars and tracks coming after release..."

https://twitter.com/Rushy33...

I remember when i played NFS Hot Pursuit 2 on PS2. There is no car tuning in that game. You just drive super cars as they are in real-life and i enjoyed the game.

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Multiplatguy3575d ago

And will those "plenty" more cars cost us to get or will they be free DLC?

GodGinrai3575d ago

"You just drive super cars as they are in real-life and i enjoyed the game."

You do realise people tune super cars in real life too, right?

Gamer6663574d ago

Microtransactions confirmed!

LamerTamer3574d ago

So basically they sell you half a game on disc, then expect you to run to the internet to download the rest. That is pretty lame especially since you can't back up game patches. This is getting out of hand. Can you imagine if you replace your HDD or have to delete stuff for space how long it will take to re-download all of these stupid patches again (providing they are still available)?

This reliance on internet downloads to fix/complete games is ruining gaming. Remember when you bought a game and got the whole thing right then and it worked? Those were the days.

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jay23575d ago (Edited 3575d ago )

Pathetic stuff! a year delay for a 1/4 done game? NO

RichardDawkins3575d ago

You're driving top performance cars.. Why would you want to customize them?

Dewitt3575d ago

Is this a serious response because customization is the only thing that differentiates people's creations online. So basically it is just going to be copies of the same vehicle online. So boring..

RichardDawkins3575d ago

I didn't have that problem when I played Burnout Revenge.

frostypants3574d ago

No PERFORMANCE customization. They didn't say no visual customization.

hkgamer3575d ago

a lot of people dont mod supercars is because it deprecciates the value of the car. however if you see rich people who dont care about that then you would see some crazy mods.

go to abu dhabi or other places and you will be amazed.

doolin_dalton3574d ago

If I drove a top performance car, I probably wouldn't drive it in the rain or snow either, but many here think it's a sin to exclude bad weather racing from certain games.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv7298d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut8598d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio98d ago (Edited 98d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack98d ago (Edited 98d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander197298d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff218397d ago (Edited 97d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim98d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno97d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff218397d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger98d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai97d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC97d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear21779d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.

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20 Best PS4 Racing Games You Should Play

Cultured Vultures: We won't stop until everyone appreciates how brilliant Driveclub is/was.

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Terry_B1199d ago

Are there even more than 20?

purple1011198d ago

i went to the article and theres only a couple racing games, cant find the button to move page on through all the adverts.

purple1011198d ago

ah its changed to a video now, strange, but il take it

Dfooster1197d ago

Dirt rally doesn't even make the list? Errm OK then.

Driveclub is over rated as well, with middle of the road handling and the 30fps killed it upon arrival for me.