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Sorry Sony but Microsoft Won E3 2014

Accelerated Ideas writes: "The first day of E3 2014 is over and the usual debates have broken out as to who won the show. Unlike last year, both Sony and Microsoft put on great shows with a fine line between the two. Here we break down each of the conferences to discuss who was the overall winner."

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Webbyy3601d ago

I gotta say I like conference but to me MS had a better show. Also imagine if MS never revealed all these things in advance?

Sony did good but MS had no choice but to do great

GarrusVakarian3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

Am i the only one that thought both conferences pretty much.....sucked? I was expecting more new IP's, more demo's of said new IP's, more/longer demos of games that we already know of, more megaton reveals.

MS padded their conference with multiplats to make it more game focused, and Sony padded their conference with talk, which lasted way too long. Wtf was that TV show, and why the hell was that dude allocated such a long time to talk about it?

All in all, pretty disappointing E3 for me. No Man's Sky, Suset Overdrive, Uncharted 4, GTA5, TLOU, Rainbow 6, The Witcher 3 and Halo 1-4 being my highlights. I can't get exited over CG trailers, so those other games didn't do anything for me :/

If i absolutely had to choose....i would probably give the "win" to MS. Purely based on the fact that they kept the focus on games, and never lost momentum.

TheGreatGamer3601d ago

warm up e3. e3 2015 will be where it's all that

jackanderson19853601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

on an overall basis yeah i agree they sucked they were alright but nothing spectacular... except grim fandango cuz that game is fantastic in so many ways

i think what i found particularly annoying was the pre-shows for both of them... larry hryb cameacross as annoying during alot of it and then those hipster sony had my god they were awful

vega2753601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

No offense Lukas.

But sony had way more padding with multiplats them MS and also a half hour of talk, tech and tv things that people have been complaining about from MS. Only for sony yo do it and the same people bashing ms over was praising sony for. Also most of sony games was leaked just like ms so we already knew about all except LBP3. Other than that no surprises from either

Not saying sonys show was bad. But it wasnt e3 win worthy

GarrusVakarian3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

@vega

No need to say "no offense" friend, that's your opinion and i respect it. Sony did talk way too much man, i agree. I expected a longer Order demo, a decent length Uncharted 4 demo, Project Beast gameplay, and a few other new IP reveals.

MS disappointed me too when it came to new IP's and stage demo's, but they showed multiplats instead of talk about TV and tech. Which is exactly why i would give the "win" to them.

I accidentally disagreed with you, btw. My bad.

vega2753601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

I say no offense because I respect your post and didnt want to come off wrong. No worries about the disagree means little to me. I admit ms should have showed more new ip and playable games. But they did a great job in getting their point across with the focus on games

Mega243601d ago

What about Batman: Arkham Knight, that was gameplay, and it looked like a gem to me.

GarrusVakarian3601d ago

@Mega

Yeah, i forgot about Batman. That looked incredible also.

Gazondaily3601d ago

Yeah Lukas, I agree. I feel like an idiot for being swept up in the hype so much -__-

NEVER AGAIN!

(I say that now...)

amiga-man3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

Well I have just caught up with the Sony conference and I saw plenty to get me excited, even the so called boring bit in the middle showed some exciting things coming our way,

Maybe it's just my taste in games but LB3, the Order, Infinity (was that an indie game?) Destiny, Driveclub have all got me excited and the finish with simply staggering visuals of Uncharted, I really think Sony are delivering as they always do.

I accept a lot of those games we already knew about but you really can't knock their production values, To each their own but I think Sony is leading the way this gen and their conference only enhanced that belief..

Jdoki3601d ago

Both were solid.

Sony had the usual lull in the middle, but a couple more nice surprises (LBP3, Grim Fandango, Ratchet and Clank Remaster)

MS kept a gaming focus, but just lacked any surprise at all.

Volkama3601d ago

I mostly find it creepy that both Sony and MS opened their shows with their respective Activision dealings.

As gaming goes Activision are more-or-less the devil, and it seems they are also becoming something of a puppetmaster.

What's annoying is I could ignore COD and stay safe from their taint, but I can't so easily ignore Bungie :(

Visiblemarc3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

Disagree. Sony had a stronger showing but a less tight presentation. There was that lull in the middle, but that just added like 20 minutes and made them run long.

Ultimately Microsoft's conference, while good, was mostly multiplats and reissues. Sony did have a number of multiplats as well, but at least some were implied to be timed exclusives.

Microsoft banked a lot on the Halo rehash, which looks really good actually and represents a great value, but in my view is fairly forgettable from an E3-Megaton perspective.

Both conferences were ultimately held back by the need to keep things aside for Gamescom which has become so huge. That said, I found myself jotting things down to pre-order often during the Sony show, and only a few times during Microsoft's.

Microsoft's biggest exclusive for me was Sunset Overdrive but I still have major questions about what the core gameplay actually is. The video had a strange feeling that left me wondering about that. Sort of like most of the action seemed inconsequential. I have seen some of the other gameplay stuff but I have questions. Am still in the likely must-buy mindset on style alone, however.

The big Platinum exclusive which had some leak-hype looked absolutely terrible to me, and had a super odd name. Scalebound? Was that it? It sounds like the struggle of a hefty woman to lose weight. But yeah, the biggest problem was that compared to Dragon Age and the Witcher (both multis) it seemed to lack anything new to offer.

Rise of the Tomb Raider looked fantastic, but again, multiplat. The new game from the Limbo team...multiplat. It just seemed almost anytime they showed something exciting it was lacking exclusivity.

Sony had lots of multis too as I said, but then some of them were "first on playstation." So there seemed to be more timed exclusives. Not that this matters much to me in the age of owning most consoles and having huge backlogs.

Yet, Grim Fandango remake, LBP3, The Order (though not new) Bloodborne, and Uncharted 4 were big highlights for me.

Either way, fact is, much of what will occupy our time in the coming years will be multiplat and both platforms are looking good.

gaffyh3601d ago

MS had the better show because there were no low points.

However, Sony showed the better games. Most of what MS showed had already been announced.

theDivision3601d ago

The division also showed a gameplay trailer which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Boody-Bandit3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

Unless we are talking about "presentation" of the conferences I disagree. MS had the best presentation overall (Sony, Ubi, EA, didn't see Nintendo yet) but Sony had more surprises and content that I want.

Sony talked WAY TOO much and with people that have no business in front of large groups of people talking. Also they spent way too much time on how PSNOW will be offered and too little on VITA and Morpheus.

I realize there are two more big shows this year but I was disappointed with Sony that there was no Drive Club footage, Last Guardian information or just one more huge announcement from one of their top developers that none of us knew about.

With MS I was disappointed they didn't show Horizon 2 in action, no Halo 5 footage, no Gears teaser to let us know it's definitively on it's way, or any "drop the mic walk off stage" announcement. I kept waiting and waiting and waiting.

So I loved MS's presentation but thought Sony has more to offer me personally.

One thing I want to know is where is the 360 and Kinect games? Why is no one writing articles about this? I thought that was very telling of MS and makes me think they are pulling another get on board the new train and CIAO like they did with the original XBOX.

When you consider that it's harder for Sony to put on a high pace show when they have a much larger eco system than MS. Right now MS has one primary focus, the XBOX ONE.

Sony has PS4, PS3, Vita, Morpheus and PSNOW. I'm not excusing them because of how much they have to cover. There were parts of their show that were cringe worthy with that one guy stumbling for words and dragging on WAY TOO LONG. I'm merely stating they have a harder to put together show but they cohesion / flow hit a wall in the middle.

Presentation - MS.
Content - Sony.

LeCreuset3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

What I don't understand is why Sony is being held to the promise MS had to make to generate hype for the Xbox. MS had to focus EXCLUSIVELY on games because they have alienated too many gamers, and now that they have failed to gain the casuals they are forced to try to play catch-up with gamers.

Did MS "keep the focus on games"? Yes, for a shorter presentation that was "padded," as you said, with previous E3 games, CGI, and third party games with some timed exclusive dlc that didn't do anything significant to make them a must buy for Xbox (unlike the Far Cry PS4 feature). That's a far cry (pun intended) from the start to stop, not even time to announce a price cut, megaton dropping that was not only hyped, but that most of us believed MS needed to get back into the game.

As for Sony, they had a longer conference and needs of their own to attend to. Playstation TV is a huge deal that should boost developer support for the Vita platform through its low cost potential to expand the Vita install base. Because Sony doesn't have to worry about saving the PS4, they were in a position where they could throw some love at the PS3. They're not playing a game of catch-up. They have the gamers, so now they can dedicate some time to teased features like PS Now. The number crunching and Powers were the only parts I felt weren't needed, but, again, Sony's conference was longer.

In short, the brands are in different places. PS could afford (and was right) to take a moment to build upon what has been established. MS needed to drop megaton after megaton, from start to finish, reestablish itself with gamers after the horrible policies and subsequent loss of the Xbox identity after belatedly reversing their unpopular decisions. Sony succeeded with what they set out to do at E3. MS? I have to say, "no." I guess the sales will tell.

mcarsehat3601d ago

Yeah, they were both underwhelming but MS seemed to have the more concise underwhelming show this year.

Sony looked like they tried to sail off on confidence from last year when MS were like a fat kid shagging (Trying harder.)

Too many tv shows and remakes for my liking.

they could have all been at GDC and no one would have cared.

Saigon3601d ago

From my point of view both conferences were good in their own right. If you start to compare the two, then it gets a little tricky. Why, because from my standpoint each had its high and lows.

MS flow of the conference was point on. They did a great job of moving from point A to point Z. No interruptions that staggered their conference. However the games weren't as impressive. Now to understand my perspective, for the last few days I stayed away from news outlets because I was afraid of leakage, so what MS showed to me was fresh but unimpressive. I can't say what it was but I just couldn't get into their presentation like I wanted to. I guess what stands out is that nothing was a surprise for me. I honestly enjoyed last years show much more. Again, that is m opinion.

For Sony, there presentation started off very strong but then dipped because they had to give the business side; while some might say it was a little off and downing (I included); Sony needed to show that information. R&C movie and new game is going to be a great welcome next year; hope to see some gameplay soon. Then afterwards it began to pick up again. Sony has always done this and this format wasn't a surprise. When looking at the games itself, Sony showed a lot more to get excited about. I myself was fairly surprised with LBP3. It took me by surprised because MM lied to us, lol. And the list of games they showed were good or should I say sparked interest.

minimur123601d ago

Maybe it's out of Bias, but I preffered the Sony one, announcing a nwe console, along with destiny alpha that we'll be able to play this thursday was pretty huge, also with the Playstation TV announcement.

GTA 5 was megaton aswell, Grim fandango was a long requested game by fans.

I have no idea whether Uncharted will look that good however, but it's crazy to think it will look like that!

MS did do an awesome job however, with a huge barrage of games, reminded me of Sony's last year, where they went crazy announceing all of the indies that were coming to it.

ALLWRONG3600d ago

MS nailed it
Sony tanked it

Sony's show sucked, but since PS fans are too afraid to admit it, they want to throw MS under the same bus saying "both sucked".

What I feel sorry for are those people who had to watch Sony's train wreck at the theater. What a waste of time and money that was.

GarrusVakarian3600d ago (Edited 3600d ago )

Lmao @ ALLWRONG.....such a fitting name. Both conferences were lacklustre dude, get over it.

"Sony's show sucked, but since PS fans are too afraid to admit it, they want to throw MS under the same bus saying "both sucked"."

That's some MorePowerOfGreen-level conspiracy theorist BS right there. Pretty sad that you have to come up with that stuff in order to feel better about the lacklustre conference. Saying MS sucked *too* is acknowledging that Sony's sucked also, which is what you just said PS fans are too afraid to admit......contradiction much?

Sony's E3 conference was free at the theatre, btw. Shows how much you know about things you troll. You and mrpsychotic stalker are the worst guys on here, so poisonous and resentful.

BallsEye3600d ago (Edited 3600d ago )

Sony had just as many multiplats (if not more) showed as MS which had way more AAA exclusivity going on. Sony filled up the rest of the show with TV talk, vita and indies. Both conferences weren't mind blowing but IMO MS had quite an edge. Just the fact alone that they've shown quite a few exclusive stuff that I can play already this year is BIG for me.

Forza Horizon 2
Halo Master Chief Collection (4 games in 1!!!)
Sunset Overdrive
Fable Legends
Fantasia (for my kids and wife)
Killer Instinct Season 2
Halo 5 beta (oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaa!)

and that's not including the DLC's, indies and titles for next year like Quantum Break, Gears of War, etc. Oh yea and all the awesome exclusives that are alrady out and played every day.

That's what I cared about most this e3...games for 2014 cause I just hate getting teased and collect dust on my console for 4 years before I can play the damn games.

maniacmayhem3600d ago (Edited 3600d ago )

Ok, but how did everyone like Nintendo's E3 direct?

Not only did they have a non-filler E3 presentation but they showed actual Nintendo games for Nintendo's systems and not multi-plats, DLC or exclusive/timed content. which filled up 90% of MS and Sony's conference.

Who would have thought that an actual digital event would be 100x better than actually being live on stage to present timed exclusives, DLC and multiplats complete with fake laughter, timed applauses and jokes that fell flat.

Nintendo nailed it with actual satire from Robot Chicken that actually poked fun at themselves. Not to mention a Iwata vs. Reggie fight which equals 100% win. Complete that with actual gameplay from every game they showed for their system and not some CG trailer of what's to come.

Nintendo did everything MS and Sony should have done at E3. Their conference has restored my faith in the WiiU and if anything showed us that Nintendo don't need to be the most powerful system to deliver new, creative and fun games to their fans.

Nintendo won E3.

dedicatedtogamers3600d ago (Edited 3600d ago )

Both were okay. Microsoft's show didn't convince me to get an X1, and Sony's show hasn't convinced me to get a PS4 any earlier than I planned on.

But outside of the bubble of E3, Sony is still killing it. Microsoft showed off a lot of stuff in the wake of not having shown off anything for months. Sony still has a dozen games from last E3 and TGS and Gamescom that have yet to be released, not to mention the overwhelming superiority of indie games coming out.

Not to mention the fact that every multiplat shown off during Microsoft's conference just made me think "welp, I'll get the better version on PS4".

Nintendo won anyway. Bayonetta 1 and 2 bundled, this fall. Xenoblade X is blowing my mind, despite the meh trailer during the actually conference (the Treehouse showing was much better). New Yoshi yarn actually looks legit. A sequel to Canvas Curse (OMGGGGGG). New Star Fox. Smash Bros looks very fun. Fantasy Life on 3DS. New Zelda looks great (though I prefer the art style of the tech demo. *shrug*). That Splatoon game looks very fun, especially if it has local co-op and seems like a legitimate advancement in the arena-based TPS genre. And Nintendo has already had two of the best games I've played in years in 2014: Mario Kart and DK Tropical Freeze.

VforVideogames3600d ago

yep Microsoft threw a lot of punches but completely forgot to threw the knock out punch and Sony threw the knock out punch but completely miss the target. I give Microsoft a 8.9 overall and Sony a solid 8

speedforce1313600d ago

I completely disagree.

Where Microsoft failed was that they did not convince me that I needed to buy an Xbox. Coming in to E3, with the 399 price drop, that's exactly what they needed to do.

A lot of people are saying that MS won the conference but didn't exactly take a close look at their offerings and see what made MS stand out and what compelled users to buy an Xbox.

Whereas, with Sony, a lot of people already own PS4 and all the stuff they are showing are BONUSES. The free to play games such as Kingdom Under Fire 2, Planetside 2, Loadout. That TV show that they showed? Powers? All PS+ subscribers are getting it for FREE and everyone else gets EP1 for free. They didn't just TALK about TV, they freaking GAVE IT TO YOU. Where's Quantum Break? I dunno. Who cares. I'm getting Powers for free. That's what I care about.

People just aren't appreciating all of what Sony gave to them. I understand that not all audiences like the same thing but the amount of content they are releasing to appeal to most audiences is staggering. That's also the reason why the show might seem dragged on. You're not seeing what you like so it just seems boring to you.

Microsoft's show seemed better b/c of the multiplats. Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, COD:AW, and so on. I liked seeing those games. Who wouldn't? When it came down to it, you got Forza Horizon 2, Phantom Dust, Scalebound, Crackdown 3, your remaster Halo MC Collection, DLC for existing games and Sunset Overdrive, the only other game that has a release date this year.

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deruy3433601d ago

Think MS certainly made up for last year, a huge improvement. Disappointed there aren't more exclusive PS games coming this year.

lindquist3601d ago

Why dont you have twice as many dislikes as likes? Thats what someone who says something like that usually gets.

mrpsychoticstalker3601d ago

s much as fan boys love to argue, Microsoft edged it this year.

They won it because of the number of quality exclusive titles coming this year backed up with a substantial amount of timed DLC. They also have the best genre spread for the next 6 months; there's a fighter, FPS, open world, racer and an adventure game.

bicfitness3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

If you mean best CGI trailers of games that we won't see for 3 years, then yeah, MS "won". They did the same thing they did last year, which was to blow their load on stuff so far out that its a dream. Remember Black Tusk's game... Oh, yeah, about that... Sony showed stuff we'll be playing this year (next 12 months), including the Order, 24 F2P titles--like KuF2--and even squeezed in some hardware and media stuff. Oh, and 90% of MS' conference was multiplats, all of which will have better performance on the PS4 too.

And somehow No Man's Sky, which was last' years critical darling when it was revealed, is now "meh" because Sony was smart in backing it? Journalists and fanboys (same thing) can't even stick to their own stories.

Rocky53601d ago

You really defending 24 F2P games oO these things kill gaming.

Most gamers bitch & moan about micro transactions yet, F2P is fine? It's based around MT's.

What's the world coming to, in the coming years we will see most games being F2P if these catch on.

I really do hope they don't catch on, but if Sony are pushing them then the PS4 will get bogged down with them in the future & that is not a good thing.

theDivision3601d ago

@Rocky5

I have a very solid chunk of play time into warframe and haven't spent a dime. You do not need to spend money to play that game, so if Sony is releasing more games like that then I am excited to see what is coming.

Magnes3601d ago

Sony laid it on the line even talking about hardware, Ms played it safe and was sterile since when do we reward that. Sony edges Ms in my opinion.

Darkstares3601d ago

It's like Sony and Microsoft got reversed. Sony's E3 was bogged down by too much talk and non-gaming stuff and way too much console first talk. Microsoft showed stuff prior to E3 which took a lot of excitement away.

Both relied way too much on 3rd party.

kneon3601d ago

The problem is you think these conferences are for you, they're not. This is an industry conference, their main target audience is not the consumer. They certainly try to keep the consumer in mind but as I said are not the target audience.

Darkstares3600d ago

Of course my opinion is based on what I saw and how it affects my decisions. Nintendo won by the way.

Flamingweazel3601d ago

MS had mainly multiplats that will run and look better on PS4, sony had more exclusives content, and gameplay, this is an idiotic article.

torchic3601d ago

exactly! I've been around the web and it seems as though N4G is the only place where people are disappointed with Sony's conference. not quite sure where it's coming from?

Sony's conference was very solid. people are judging it by the "boring bits in the middle"

-Foxtrot3601d ago

@Torchic

"Sony's conference was very solid. people are judging it by the "boring bits in the middle"

You mean people are looking at the negatives instead of the positives...hmmmmm

Sounds like some users on this site

aragon3600d ago

Both ms and Sony were underwhelming, draw for me, next thing I hope fanboys on here realize now that always bitch about one company money hatting exclusive content in multiplat games I'm gonna ask is it ok now that Sony has done it? I mean they have a lot of xclusives content? Not sure how much exclusives coming out for either one but they both sucked ubisoft won

Magicite3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

Lol no, MS conference was just compilations of game trailers, it cant even be called a conference, also all of MS spoke people were boring at best.

Besides MS talked only about games and showed that X1 is no more All-in-One, Sony on the other hand showed that PS4 is really an ultimate Entertainment machine.

1nsaint3601d ago

it wasn't huge but it beats every other E3 press conference that microsoft has done

-Foxtrot3601d ago

I don't understand

Microsoft's was full of games...yes but they were games announced LAST YEAR, games we already knew about leading up to E3 and even multiplatform games coming to both consoles.

How does that "win" you E3, Sony's wasn't the best it could of been, both of them were a let down as I think Gamescom is getting in the way of them showing everything they can but I was honestly more surprised at their show then Microsoft's

I was only surprised at Microsoft's at Conker....then it was ripped away from me and I was kicked in the nuts.

I think Microsoft's only looked better because the past few years for them were pretty bad.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ3601d ago

God this site is pro Sony 100%, as being on both sides of the fence and not letting fanboyish remarks get to me, MS definitely won this year... It's clear!

Copen3600d ago

Microsoft completely tanked E3 I don't know how you can call mostly 3rd parties they couldn't buy exclusive a good show? And CGI trailers for anything important they have coming which oh by the way doesn't come until 2015 which you know will turn into 2016. I'm sorry but for games that are coming this year and early to mid 2015 Sony won hands down. And Project Beast AKA BloodBorne is better than ANYTHING MS showed or revealed hell there's legit videos of Project Beast/BloodBorne floating around REAL GAME PLAY not CGI trailers on PC's running graphics cards the Xbox one can't match.

fr0sty3600d ago

Good to see someone nominated this jackass to be the end all, be all decision maker for who won E3.

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wheresmymonkey3601d ago

both were good indifferent ways, I don't think either was particularly mind blowing though. Of the two so far Sony wins for bringing Grim Fandango to PS4.

Still i think Nintendo might be about to sneak in and kick the competition in the shins. Nothing makes gamers lose their minds like a new Zelda.

PCGamingNoobs3601d ago

yup, grim fandango won it for me i lost my shit when i saw the letter i knew it was grim fandango straight away. funny i joked with my brother about a grim fandango 2 announcement.

im literally not bothered about anything else i just want more manny to play with

RAFFwaff3601d ago

If Nintendo give solid release dates for Bayonetta 2, "X", show a mind blowing Zelda AND have a surprise at the end of either Metroid or Starfox, they will 'win' e3, whatever that means.

EliteGameKnight3600d ago

how'd they do in your opinion?

Hassassin3600d ago

basically did all that(?)

Mr-Dude3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

When did this become a competition? First we got the gloom and doom articles for weeks, and now we got the "who won crap". Sony and Microsoft where both "okay"... nothing more!

There was one game, that stood out of everything and that was No Man's Sky. They are my winners

GarrusVakarian3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

Everything is a competition nowadays. There were even arguments about who has the better Twitch app.....people will compete over ANYTHING.

And as usual, the only true winners are the people who will be playing everything that was shown off at E3.

Oh, and i completely agree about No Man's Sky. It stole the entire day for me. I can't believe an indie game made by a four man team looks so damn great, and got me more hyped than any of the big games did.....lmao.

deruy3433601d ago

Agree with you there, No Man's Sky looks really good especially for a small team

KingKelloggTheWH3601d ago

Well that is completely subjective, and you stating it as fact makes you look bad.

As for me I enjoyed both and am waiting for nintendo before I declare a winner of E3, because they are having an E3 stream in case you forgot. So you declaring the winner already is ridiculous.

jay23601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

No, where were the betas, the lost Bungie, they didn't even talk their 360. PS3's bringing the world BC with PS Now, Maybe if they'd left the price drop, halo 5, quantem break etc till the show yes, but most of their stuff 3rd party that won't even run as well on an xbone. And who got that GTA5 announcement? Sony. The TV info was cool, order yeah not a lot to go on, u4 was also poor shout have demoed it.

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Why The Game Industry Needs In-Person Shows Despite The End Of E3

Skewed and Reviewed kick off 2024 with a look at the need for in-person game conventions with the End of E3 and compares the cost-cutting methods of Hollywood who still value in-person events.

gold_drake108d ago

so, this article didnt tell me why we NEED to have in-person shows like e3, other than the authors nostalgia and remembrance of covering one of these shows.

but it also doesnt mention everyone outside of america who have never had the chance to see it in person either haha
we had to watch the darn livestream, if they had it available, at 3am in the morning haha with lags amd crashes (not all the time)

while i think these shows are great and all, i dont really "need" to have them. people are busy, im busy. id rather watch a livestream than to book a flight, a hotel etc.

but theres still pax and all of that.

Garethvk108d ago (Edited 108d ago )

I did mention that you cannot have hands-on and meetings with key people and the excitement. Europe has Gamescom and had Paris Games Week and N.A
Needs an industry event again.

A Livestream does not even come close to what was lost. I much prefer seeing and playing the games in person and asking questions to developers and marketing people versus watching talking heads doing shtick on a scripted showcase with a carefully edited video.

gold_drake108d ago

"need" is a strong word for it, imo.

"good to have it" would be a better way to describe it.

and sure, gamescom is in se germanland, paris week in .. paris.

most people dont rly care for it anymore. they either tune in to a livestream or vod or read about it online.

but opinions are opinions. if u think we Need them, then there ya go.

Garethvk108d ago

I think the industry needs them. The rank and file public not as much but our coverage is greatly limited via livestreams compared to what it was to say nothing of streams. Hands on previews Re very limited as well as we used to play big games months before release.

ApocalypseShadow108d ago (Edited 108d ago )

I get what you're saying. In person is always preferable with a hands on. Because there are those like myself that like to try before buying. That likes physical mostly over digital.

But having said that, I think it's more *your personal need* than a need for the industry itself. You need to be the middleman giving your point of view, possibly your own personal bias or subjectivity or objectivity to the equation. *We* as gamers don't actually NEED it. We can come to the same conclusions, positive or negative about a game as you can.

Companies like Sony or Nintendo used to sit back and watch others give their take on things that were negative to the message or had an agenda. Especially during the PS3 era of website bias, swag bags, advertising hand shakes, biased video, free laptops, etc.

Companies like Sony took the reigns and decided to let their base see for themselves what the games look like, than through the eyes of some journalists, bloggers and vloggers looking to cash in on click bait and advertising.

Delivering their message directly to the consumer killed a lot of that nonsense. You see the developers, you see the game, and in many cases, you can speak to these developers on discord than worrying about some article's take on something.

It's not that I want you to become obsolete. But for some, I'm glad it killed their business practices. Also, we live in an era where these games could be streamed directly to the consumers after the presentation from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft that gives that hands on of a game. They just have to implement that technology and make it high quality without latency. And *WE* as gamers can speak to each other on a preferred media platform and give our opinions on the gameplay we just experienced. Many journalists have not been fully honest on games before release because they fear losing their backstage pass and free gifts. We would know just by playing if a game is something we want. Remote play is possible now without lines, without expensive trips, etc.

To close, Sony has sold mostly 50 million PS5 consoles, over 110 million PS4 consoles and Nintendo has sold over 120 million consoles without a journalist take. They delivered their message and it's still reaching the consumers they are targeting without spending the millions of dollars on in person setup at a venue

I get what you're saying. I lived through the whole era when E3 was created and watched. But I don't need it and never been to one. And really don't need a journalist to tell me what to like or dislike.

EvertonFC107d ago

The ques for 1 game were 4 hours long for the most part, that's NOT fun.

S2Killinit107d ago

The problem with live shows was that it became all smoke and mirrors and a show of things not related to gaming. Therefore I would argue that it added a new layer of cost to the game developers and console holders that necessarily will need to made up for. Either we the consumer have to pay for that cost or the developer/manufacturer will have to bear the cost thereby taking away from profits leading to smaller studios dying out.

Remember xbox buying celebrities to make appearances? Thats a good example of unnecessary cost.

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JackBNimble108d ago

You don't need to go to the movies either, you can sit on your ass and watch any number of streams but that doesn't make it any better then actually going out.

This generation has become so spoiled and lazy.

gold_drake108d ago

booking a flight and a hotel aint the same as going to the movies, but pop off i guess ha.

Garethvk108d ago

Streaming cannot replace the communal experience of event films.

EvertonFC107d ago (Edited 107d ago )

Actually it does, for one it's cheaper eating my own snacks at home than over priced pi** take cinema prices. 2 it's About £150 to take the family to the cinema or £15 for a new cinema release and watch at home on my awesome 4k TV.
3 We can pause the film when needed, sit in the warmth of our home and have no di*kheads talking through the movie.
That's called using your brain, not being lazy or spoiled dude.

TheColbertinator108d ago

I'd rather publishers send out closed betas to garner gamer concern and interest like how we had demos back in the day.

I don't miss E3 as much as I loved it at one point but that era is long gone.

Garethvk108d ago

There is a need but refinement was and is needed.

Zenzuu108d ago

Sad to see it go. It was a great event for gamers and developers all around the world getting together and celebrate gaming as a community.

The announcements of new games/hardware, hype, surprises and seeing live audience reactions, it's something only events like E3 are able to bring. It will be missed...

hombreacabado107d ago

if its going to be anything like the game awards where celebrities that dont even play games are there and its just full of fluff and commercial crap than no we dont need in person shows. we just end up watching the trailer montages the next day anyway.

Shiro173107d ago

To be honest E3 was one of my favorite times of the years when I was younger. I couldn't wait for all the big conferences and new announcements. It was hype even if nothing good was announced we had cringe moments to laugh at.

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The Rise and Fall of E3

Rest in peace, E3. It may be easy to understand why you wasted away, but you will be missed.

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Terry_B126d ago

Nah..it won't be missed. Times changed.

mastershredder125d ago (Edited 125d ago )

E3 pre-2005 will be missed, everything after than ain't even close or worthy of mention to be missed. Late 90's E3's were phenominal, especially the after parties.

Dwarrior125d ago

Those that scoff and hand-wave it away are kids that were never there. Peak E3 was peak gaming.

It already IS missed.

darthv72125d ago

"$299".... and the rest was history.

jznrpg125d ago

It’s been dead for a good while so I don’t miss it. Things change

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Remembering the most chaotic trade show, E3

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