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Playstation TV coming this fall to the US: will it fix Vita TV’s mistakes?

Blogger wololo shares his thoughts on the Playstation TV, the mistakes of the Japanese Vita TV and how the US release could fix things. He also reflects on the renaming of the product being another nail in the coffin of the "Vita" Brand

Whxian3601d ago

when it was announced people were whining about the name being vita tv cuz people wouldnt understand what the product is, now that they renamed to playstation tv, we still get negative comments about the naming.

guitarded773601d ago

First thing I noticed when it was announced was the re-branding. I think it's a good move on Sony's part. There is so much unwarranted bad press on the Vita that they have made it a "PlayStation" device. They probably should have done that from the beginning since it's more than a Vita console. With PS Now, it will play so many PS games. The general PS branding is good IMO.

Deadpoolio3601d ago

Uh you do know that it is NOT anything more than a Vita console correct? It is LITERALLY a Vita with no screen or touch pad LITERALLY....It's not more than an Vita, it's NOT like an OUYA, it's a Vita using the television as the screen...PlayStation Now works the exact same way whether your using an actual Vita or a Vita TV

Anon19743601d ago

I can't believe this device isn't getting more buzz on the comments. This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. I'm picking one up day one to use as a PS4 extender to another TV in my house, if for no other reason. And with PS Now coming to this thing...for $100? Are you kidding me? This should be a game changer when PS Now launches.

Double_O_Revan3601d ago

EXACTLY! I've been hyped for this device since it was originally announced. I also plan to use it for PS4 Remote Play in my living room, with my system in the basement.

I used to have 2 PS3s and it was a royal pain transferring saves/installing twice/updating twice. This device solves All of that, and at practically half the cost. Instead of $800 for 2 PS4s, it'll only be $500 for the same a simpler setup.

Anon19743601d ago

Yep. I was in the same boat. Two PS3's..one in my home theater den downstairs and the other upstairs on my living room TV. For $100 to be able to connect and play my PS4 from downstairs when the kids are in bed without disturbing them is exactly what I want, without having to muck about with save transfers or installing games on two devices. And then I have it to pop into my suitcase when I travel so I can easily plug them into hotel TV's and have some gaming action while I'm on the road. I'm assuming this will have Netflix too eventually, which will also be great for killing time during those hotel trips away from my family.

joeorc3601d ago

again calling the PSVita dead?

2012 its dead
2013 its so dead the nails on the coffin are rusted
2014 is now So dead the crypt that its coffin is in has a leaky roof

Oh i know 2015, How come the crypt door is open and the nails are out placed all neat in a row around the coffin's lid

2016 did'nt we say its dead, why is this thing still around....lol why just why will that Zombie of a platform not die!

When are people going to get the Hint just because you say its dead and you have gamers agreeing with you does not mean the platform is dead, no the only way to kill a platform is if its pulled from the market, funny how that work

Now , has the PSVita been pulled from the market yet? that Answer is no there is over 8 million+ PSVita's sold, that means there is enough install base to continue to support the system no matter how many claims of death, "Vita means life" and this zombie is just not going to die.

With Playstation Tv when you make a game for it will that same software run on a PSVita, yes, so that means your not "putting a nail in to a coffin" of the platform, oh i get it because they changed the name its somehow some way that = the death of the platform..LMAO

I guess How fast the PSPGos demise people are thirsty for another Sony failure..the thirst is "real"

seatunt3601d ago

Maybe not dead, but where's the incentive to buy one? Sure there are games, games that really appeal to niche/indie gamers. I didn't see one unique game announced for the vita. Why would I want to go drop $200 on a portable gaming device where its own manufacturer is only porting console titles to it? I get the Playstation Tv for half the price and accomplish the same idea.

joeorc3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

@seatunt

" I get the Playstation Tv for half the price and accomplish the same idea."

umm, lmao what do you think the playstation TV is? its a PSVita! again if a game is developed for playstation TV it will work on the standard Playstation Vita!

they are the same platform, people are it seems getting too caught up on the name change: how is changing the name not make the playstation TV not still a playstation Vita?

they have the very same chipset, the very same card ports game port and blank memory flash card
port, as for touch screen controls, what do you think the ds4 support for the playstation TV is for?

watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

get the picture now?

So by all means Get the Playstation TV save yourself some money and still playstation Vita still gathers support, because its the same damn platform, it was named so as to direct compete with Apple TV, gOOGLE tv, aMAZON FIRE tv..nOTICE A THEME THERE?

Playstation TV. if anything this will expand playstation vita support much faster now!

@CaptainN

"Nope, wont help at all....just going to confuse the average consumer even more now."

LMAO how in freaking tarnation is it going to freaking confuse the consumer more, when you boot up the Playstation TV the PSVits OS is used the very same d@mn ui, go to the playstation store it has a neat lil area to ummm download software for it..just like any other standard PSVita...god its not rocket science people

optimus3601d ago

@joeorc...umm, what is your point? you obviously didn't get seatunt's point... he said WHY would he go out and buy a $200 vita when this playstation tv does the same thing for a lot less...

you claim the vita will get support now which it might, but it certainly won't sell as much as the playstation tv will BECAUSE IT'S $99!

CaptainN3601d ago

Nope, wont help at all....just going to confuse the average consumer even more now.

Maxor3601d ago

I want to pay $99 so I can stream my PS4 to another room in 720p. Said by no one ever.

asyouburn3601d ago

I'm going to spend 99 to stream ps4 to my daughters room

joeorc3601d ago

the output resolution is 1080i on the Playstation TV

Anon19743601d ago

The second these announced in Japan, I said at that time I'd pick one up for $100 day one when it hit NA to use as a PS4 extender. My PS4 is down in my den, but my kid's rooms are also down there so it would certainly be nice to play PS4 in the living room and not have to use headphones (or worry about the light of the projector causing a distraction for them while I game).

But even if I didn't have a PS4, for $100 bucks these things look great to take on trips, keep at the cabin for rainy days, throw in the kids room for cheap. Download games for them, use them as media streamers or just use them when Playstation Now kicks in and have access to over 1000 PS1/2/3 titles. I spend more in a month on coffee. This seems like a no-brainer purchase to me.

incendy353601d ago

So basically this is a PS NOW rental device. Almost exactly like Amazon Fire TV. Priced the same too. Didn't want that product either :D

elnacho3601d ago

They have close to nothing in common in terms of their features, I don't understand where you see that this is "almost exactly" like the FireTV.

The games are different and the FireTV does not have support for remote games such as PS Now (although it might end up with something like onlive eventually?)

Unless you mean they are both set top boxes with gaming functionality. So are to some extent the xbox one, the ps4, the Ouya. Are you saying all these devices are almost exactly identical?

So far the Fire TV impresses me much more than the VitaTV (I have both).

The interface is better, there is a bigger variety of movie services (including, obviously, Amazon Instant video), and it benefits the Android ecosystem for apps. In other words, things such as XBMC or Plex work on Fire TV, you will never see that on the PlaystationTV.

incendy353601d ago

True, Fire TV has the added benefit of third party apps. But both devices are trying to get you to rent/buy games and media that are streamed to the device. Their concepts are identical, Amazon just has a lot more partners.

elnacho3601d ago

@incendy35: I see your point. You're right, these two devices are trying to make the thin line between "purchase" and "renting" (and "you own locally" VS "you stream") fuzzy on both the gaming and movie sides. In that aspect they are quite similar.

Raf1k13601d ago

Does this let you play Vita games on your TV?

Wondering if I'll be able to play all those Vita games I got from PS+ without having to buy a Vita as this thing should be cheaper.

KonsoruMasuta3601d ago (Edited 3601d ago )

They said it will let you play "most" Vita games.

As stated in the article, they haven't been too specific about how many Vita games will be playable and which ones are not playable.

I'm assuming that any of the games that require touch pad is out of the loop unless third parties make a special version for the PSTV.

joeorc3601d ago

@incendy35

"So basically this is a PS NOW rental device. Almost exactly like Amazon Fire TV. Priced the same too. Didn't want that product either :D"

what just a and i quote "So basically this is a PS NOW rental device" lol thats like saying playstation 4 and the xboxone are just PSN and xboxlive rental service devices..lmao

both the amazon fire tv and Playstation TV are top set boxes that play full games that you can download to the devices's storage options. you can load full applications on them hell in that respect the Amazon fire TV has reg. Apps that you find on a Android device, because wait a min it is Android Based. they are far more than just a streaming box rental platform.

KonsoruMasuta3601d ago

I'm hoping this does better than the Vita TV is doing in Japan.,

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Twitch App launches on PS Vita in Europe

The Twitch app has arrived on the PlayStation store for both the PS Vita and the PlayStation TV, due to hardware restrictions you will be unable to broadcast from the device however the app enables Vita and PlayStation TV owners to watch streams without having to use the browser. The app itself is 16.7MB and requires a Vita Memory card

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Razzer2844d ago (Edited 2844d ago )

but.....vita is dead.

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Sony discontinues PlayStation TV in US and Europe

If you’ve been holding off on buying a PlayStation TV but were planning on picking one up eventually, you better get moving.

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Forn2971d ago

If I could play EVERY PS 1/2 game along with PSP and Vita games I would have bought one.

miyamoto2971d ago

If only they put an A/V out cable on the PS Vita like they did with PSP.............. instant micro console for my 46" HD TV. Save Sony multi millions of dollars.

I told Shuhei Yoshida that was the way to go but they wouldn't listen.

KentBenMei2970d ago

It can play most and it is cheap. I hear you but it's a sweet deal, it gets hate for not being perfect which is unfair.

NarooN2971d ago

Why introduce it and then discontinue it like two seconds later? Lol wow.

XanderZane2971d ago

Because no one was really buying it. They even cut the price in 1/2 and PSTV's were just collecting dust on retail shelves from what I've heard. I wonder what they will do with all that overstock in their inventory? Well the Atari 2600 ET games have been all dugged up, so they can now bury this waste of hardware in it's spot. Oh well. Glad I didn't waste money on it.

TheColbertinator2971d ago

Too much hardware on the market. Sony needs to avoid Sega's mistake back in the 90s.

If Sony intends to compete with a focus,trimming out unprofitable hardware and features is quite efficient.

rezzah2971d ago

Plus casuals wouldn't understand what this is. this is more geared towards core gamers who wish to play older games, but it doesn't contain all the games they wish to play.

ZeekQuattro2971d ago

Surprised it lasted this long. Not even a name change made a difference.

The_Truth_24_72971d ago (Edited 2971d ago )

Sony really dropped the ball on this one. It couldn't even do Netflix and they killed the YouTube app.
Got one on day 1 and I've only used it a handful of times. Freedom Wars is what's keeping it from collecting dust recently.

Kribwalker2971d ago

Not to mention I can't get mine to stream the ps4 well in a room 20feet away......I bought one so my kids could play the ps4 in the other room, but it doesn't stream well

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Why Did We All Tune Out of PlayStation TV?

Push Square: "When the PlayStation TV was announced, this author was on holiday. It was poor editorial director Damien McFerran that was left to man the fort during an explosive Tokyo Game Show press conference, which also played host to the reveal of the PlayStation Vita Slim. It was big, big news at the time, with the microconsole in particular drawing plenty of plaudits."

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ArchangelMike2972d ago

This is the problem with Sony Playstation, fingers in too many pies. Just focus on games and supporting the platform you already have out there. They are letting the PSVita die a slow and painful death, and instead of investing in it, went to come up with PlaystationTV? Surprise, surprise! Sony didn't support that either!
When will they learn that gamers just want to play good games?

get2sammyb2972d ago

I agree that sometimes it feels like they're spinning too many plates. I do think this was an experiment, though, so you can't really blame them.

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FamilyGuy2971d ago (Edited 2971d ago )

wtf are you talking about? The Playstation TV was a console version of the vita. It didn't need its own support when it just played vita games. I'm not a handheld sort of gamer so its release was a welcome edition to me. A mini hmdi out port on the vita would've been nice but the PS TV was a cheaper option. It gave me the opportunity to play some of those monster hunter-like games that the vita was getting that weren't showing up on the PS3 or PS4.

Seems like you have no idea what the system even was

Seraphim2971d ago

I don't think that's the problem at all. I see it twofold. One being necessity and the other being confusion. Necessity in that who needs it for Remote Play, to play Vita games on their tv, and so on. Confusion being exactly that. What is it? What does it do? And so on. Guess there could be some other issues. Price. Marketing. Price wasn't terrible but back to necessity. Do I really to spend that much for this and is it really useful to me. Lack of marketing. I bet a vast majority have no idea this product is available and if you were to ask gamers what PSTV was they'd think it's some video service offered by PS they never heard of.

I think it's a great concept. Back when I was a kid this would have been fantastic. With the price drops I have considered picking one up for $40-50. My problem is I really have no use for one. I don't have a spare tv anymore and even when I did I never really had any desire to game on it. I have my setup. Secondly most Vita games I enjoy playing on the Vita. Though some it would be cool to play on the big screen so I might have just talked myself into buying one.

rainslacker2971d ago

They brought out PSTV before they abandoned the Vita. The PSTV by it's very nature could have bolstered the Vita install base, thus making it get more support.

While I agree, Sony did fumble support for VIta in general in the West, it wasn't because they happen to bring out a different version of the Vita...which only expanded the market base for the system.

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isarai2972d ago

Well many reasons, a hefty chunk of vita games are incompatible, memory cards are still pricey as hell, doesn't come with a controller which is required, doesn't stream netflix even thou standard vita does, and most of all people really aren't that interested in playing handheld visuals on a big screen. Especially now that every vita game is also getting a ps4 release, sony is really just slowly but steadily turning the knife they stabbed it withat this point

gangsta_red2972d ago

It was a great idea, just executed very poorly. Hardly any exposure and not enough support.

Just another peripheral in a long list from Sony that has been unsupported and eventually dropped. This is why people should be cautious about PSVR.

u4one2971d ago (Edited 2971d ago )

it was a solution for a problem that didn't really exist. if you own a ps4 (or a sony smart tv), you already have the best features of the pstv anyway. if you own a vita, then you have vita games, and they can be streamed via ps4. as a media streamer, it was a joke and could in no realistic way compete with Roku, Apple, Google, Amazon etc.

as for psvr - i really hope it succeeds, but you're right. a product needs a reason to exist and people need a reason to want it. same thing kinda happened with kinect as well.

donwel2971d ago

Vita games can be streamed via PS4?
PS4 games can be streamed to Vita through remote play but I've never heard it the other way round.

ziggurcat2971d ago

it also didn't help that not all vita games were compatible. I bought one thinking I would just play my vita titles on my TV, but I honestly haven't used it at all - it's my own fault for not really researching it thoroughly enough!

rainslacker2971d ago

I think it's execution was fine, just it didn't get much exposure in terms of marketing. I mean, even when the price dropped to a point only a hater could argue it wasn't worth it, the thing barely sold.

I think some people found it redundant. Some found it less capable than the handheld.

Mostly though, I think Sony had a great idea, and then didn't bother to make it into a better device as time went by. All their efforts went to PS4, and new compelling features...although probably redundant on a game console, never made their way to the device to entice the more mainstream casual customer to choose it over something like Roku or AmazonTV. Rather silly really, as much of the success of the PS1 and PS2 was due to how they made it more appealing than other devices which did the same thing...except the PS1 and PS2 could also play games.

user66660472972d ago

I'd take one of these for 3DS games.

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