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The Xbox One Has Lost Its Identity

Hardcore Gamer: The Xbox One is undoubtedly a better and more appealing system than it once was, but it will forever be a much less interesting one from here on out.

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ValKilmer3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

Well, thankfully that identity was a "720p DRM Box with games you can't share and a peripheral nobody wants," so that's not a bad thing.

AngelicIceDiamond3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

Not really the X1 is just a stronger 360. Just like the PS4 is a strong PS3 its simple.

If ppl really wanted Kinect that bad, they would get one now or this fall, realistically.

Besides I thought the exclusives gives the console an identity. If MS didn't have any first party studios to create first party AAA software then yeah it wouldn't have an identity no console would.

Killer Instinct was gone for 15 years and MS brought it back. Plus MS said other remakes and re-imaginings are possibly in the works.

So on top of creating the usual new AAA ip's, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break (maybe more at E3). The blockbuster hit titles like Halo 5, Fable Legends and Forza Horizon 2 along with rebooting or remaking great dormant franchises that we know and love. Shenmue 3, Battle Toads, Conkerer are literally just some the request's ppl been making. Phantom Dust I think is real and alive. (Thank you Phil)

Trust me MS has an identity.

denawayne3607d ago

I'm still trying to find all the people who regret buying an Xbox One.

B1uBurneR3607d ago

Did you just names games that hasn't been confirmed as facts? I think gamers have lost their identity correction this gen fanboys have lost their identity... Ps4 gave ps3 gamers a backbone to stand firm.. it's like the are a whole new person this Gen.

Rainstorm813607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

They are on craigslist selling the system at a loss

@Pog

Maybe instead of waiting on MS they bought a different console?.....I know many people that did that with the PS3.....instead of waiting for Sony they bought a 360

Pogmathoin3607d ago

Well said..... Many here said if Xbox cut this, dropped that, did this, they would buy it. Guess what? MS did all that, and now we see who is nothing more than trolls, sad fanboys, and to those who go buy it now, welcome, it is a great system.....

Jubez1873607d ago

PS4 isn't a stronger PS3. It has many more features

No_Limit3607d ago

@Jubez,

"PS4 isn't a stronger PS3. It has many more features"

Such as?

Don't get me wrong, I have the PS4 as well but I don't see what extra feature it has over previous systems, same as the XB1 now. They are gaming machines, and that is what it should be about and why I bought one.

pompombrum3607d ago

Completely agree.. A console's identity is defined by it's games, not by a gloried accessory.

christocolus3607d ago

@angelice

Well said. I now have a lot more friends looking forward to buying the system. The console definitly has an identity and it will only keep getting better.

Bennibop3607d ago

@denawayne you have found one, I really regret purchasing my xbox one. Loved my 360 at launch x1 is just not a patch on my ps4 at the moment.

Live: benni bop

Redgehammer3607d ago

Well stated. I have been a 360 owner for 7 years, and my dealings with, and happiness, has been highly maintained, over that period. I will purchase the "elite version", at some point, of the XO; but, until then, I have 600 GBs of, full version, games to play on my 360. I like what I perceive to be MSs Identity.

Sy_Wolf3607d ago

Right, and all the consoles are just more powerful Apple IIs.

XisThatKid3607d ago

I agree with the article I Been saying exactly this for some time now its not terrible but I liked the differences between the systems honestly

AngelicIceDiamond3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

@Disagrees Disagreeing is fine but an explanation would be better.

What did I say that was so wrong here?

EDIT: And yes I'm fully aware Sony is remastering and rumored to be bringing back an oldie (can't wait to see what it is) as well but Phil is actually bringing back games based on request from gamers

So much so you can go to twitter and put in put in #BringbackOGXboxGames and Phil will look over and might even consider some requested games.

@Silent Hey I'm just sayin what MS gives me. But you and everyone here are disagreeing for the sake of not liking my post (its too pro Xbox I know)

Its way to much Xbox positive and its hurts to read well that's just to bad that's not my issue.

Nobody here can argue my points so I won this debate easily.

Fatal-Aim3607d ago

@ AngelicIceDiamond

um yeah... the PS3 didn't have a gyroscope or a T-pad. already, these two features allows for a whole new way to play. this alone makes the PS4 more than just a powerful PS3. stop putting the X1 in the PS4's just because MS decided to remove most of the X1's features.

SilentNegotiator3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

You really felt the need to include "requested games" to fluff up your argument?

edit: You're the one arguing IP resurrections as part of their identity and then listing off a bunch of games that don't exist, since you have little other than KI to make that argument. Yet, you're going to imply that I'M the biased one here?

MrSwankSinatra3607d ago

What are you talking about? The PS4 is a far cry away from being a stronger PS3. So many things have changed from the PS3 to the PS4. Anybody who actually owned a PS3 for years and jumped to the PS4 will tell you it's a totally different experience.

Freedomland3607d ago

After the reveal they tried to correct their mistakes but people took it as a damage control because instead of doing slowly, they reversed everything suddenly and lost their repute as a strong brand and emerged as a weaker competitor and everything they did, seemed reactionary.

BitbyDeath3607d ago

'Just like the PS4 is a strong PS3 its simple.'

It isn't though cause the new OS improved on just about everything.

Things like -

No longer having to wait a few mins before starting a game for installs/patches
Installing a full game to the HDD
Live with PlayStation
Share Button
Integrated shop
Trophies load before sync
Multi-tasking
Game detail integration with the OS
What's New section
Controllers that can charge while the system is in standby
Start/Select buttons finally gone and replaced with a single button "Options"
Voice control (Don't need a cam for it)
and many many many more features that never existed before.

If these don't make a new console then I don't know what does.

AngelicIceDiamond3607d ago

@Silent

"You're the one arguing IP resurrections as part of their identity and then listing off a bunch of games that don't exist, since you have little other than KI to make that argument."

Seeing how I'm using those as examples of what could come to X1 I never said anything of those games ever existing (besides Phantom Dust recent trademark filing). Those games were requested from fans.

Still no argument from you like I said its to much good Xbox talk in my post that's what bothers you and the rest of the usual naysayers.

Its nothin new from you and the rest of the ppl here. But nice try attempting to find an excuse downplay though.

miyamoto3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

The article title is right.

The Xbone has two identities.

1. The internal identity that M$ initially designed it with. RDM, 24 hour check in, always connected, no used games machine etc. which to them is acceptable.

2. The Xbone had an outer public identity that M$ introduced to the world...an identity that many many people hated.

These identities are what M$ is trying to change.

And yes Xbone is loosing its identity in terms of integrity.

M$ and Xbone has no vision and backbone to stand by it.

UltimateMaster3607d ago

When the Wii became a huge success, it created kinect to try to compete with it.
It launched the Xbox One with the kinect and try to be the next Wii.
Now that the PS4 oversold the Wii U, they've changed everything to become the next Playstation.

If you ask me, they never had much of an identity to begin with, they've always copied what others were doing.

nunley333607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

Not many would say the XB1 was just an upgraded 360 a year ago. MS seemed to throw away everything they did well with the 360 and offer something really different,it was puzzling to see MS flounder about making so many self-inflicted wounds. A more powerful 360 would've been tbe safer route for them to take. It was a bold move at first look i'll admit but not a well planned one. It looks more like a 360 and PlayStation now with all it's backpedalling but it should mean more sales so it's for the best.

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Rainstorm813607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

I agree I prefer X1 new identity over its XBone identity when it was first revealed

They are trying to make it a console worth buying now, and not just a vehicle to further their own agenda (Kinect, XBL, TV focus etc.)

2cents3607d ago

The identity of the One was of a sinister skinny tall old man in a trench coat and a hat with a thin smile and boney fingers, with his hand outstretched saying "come on kids, I've got something special here to show you"... (shudders).

Now its a strong tech savvy individual that loves choice in accessibility to entertainment. (Awesome!)

So in my humble opinion, the title of this article should be... The Xbox has Gained it's Identity.

XxExacutionerxX3607d ago

Wow, Valkilmer....lol looks like your career ended when you became a Sony fanboy. If you were with microsoft, maybe you could have gotten back on TV. Lol

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DARK WITNESS3607d ago

In my opinion the xbox is finally getting it's identity back.

When I bought into the xbox and it's vision xbox was all about games, "hardcore games" if you want to call them that.

it was about core games for core gamers (mostly), somewhere in the middle of the 360's life it lost that and became a lot more about casual games and entertainment. That is not really a bad thing per say, but it lost it's focus on doing anything with it's core market. They just wanted to feed us Gears, Halo, Forza and keep repeating over and over.

With the xbox one they wanted to push that even further, but it has not got them the love they expected so now they are having to push back to the core.

Thats not a bad thing in my book. they are starting to talk about games again like they use to.
I may actually get excited about being an xbox fan again.

DealWithIt3607d ago

Yep. Now its just "720p box that nobody wants"

beans3607d ago

Wrong! I want it I'm sure like many others.

Rimeskeem3607d ago

its still is known as 720p to a lot of people.

But the problem with it now is that its the samething as the PS4 just weaker

Magicite3607d ago

nobody's praising exbox as much as its own execs

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B1uBurneR3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

Xbox one lost its identity Yes just like gaming journalists has.

Spotie3607d ago

True, but one doesn't really have an effect on the other.

marlinfan103607d ago

i agree with the gaming journalism but not the xbox. MS is giving people choices. the only people that would find that as a bad thing are trolls and fanboys. (who coincidently are the same ones that were asking for more choices)

yankolo3607d ago

Xbox its great...KI ....titanfall....kinect and fifa are great....DONT HATE PLAY...

corvusmd3607d ago

I love my X1, maybe I just better understood what it's identity was from the beginning, and the changes that have been made were things that didn't upset me either way, but I appreciate that those changes make it easier for others to join the fold....so Identity change? Ok, as long as it helps gamers, I can't see it as a bad thing.

GW2123607d ago

You need to stop the BS. Every single time with you, it's more BS.

You are the same one that was on here talking endlessly about how revolutionary the Kinect was and how it would change gaming and the way we interacted with hardware. Well, now they dropped it. So, please stop talking like you "understood what its identity was from the beginning" because that's just bogus. You know it and everyone else knows it.

I get you are a rabid MS fanboy but, damn dude, give it a rest and go play some games. No need to come on here and make excuses or try to tell everyone how you're the only one that understands a console's identity. When is the wedding date?

DigitalRaptor3607d ago (Edited 3607d ago )

Corvus, you were one of the biggest Kinect/Xbone vision defenders on here, so I don't believe that damage control for a second. You were also one of the biggest Sony/PS4 detractors on here too before and after the consoles launched, calling Sony's latest console a PS3.5.

Don't know what caused your change of behaviour? Maybe the bubble system here really got to you, and you're trying to win them back?

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darthv7211h ago

Garrr... more people to walk the plank and send to Davey Jones locker.

would have been funny to release this on talk like a pirate day.

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TrueRican697h ago

I pre-order the premium edition for my PS5 today

Crows903h ago(Edited 3h ago)

40 million have set sail...that's great. How many are sailing now? Monthly active users....when it actually matters. How many people purchased the game is another important number.

Gamingsince19813h ago

You don't get numbers like that from MS mouth pieces, they just like to say stuff like "this game was looked at 129 million time, the biggest amount of people browsing a game of this genre on xbox gamepass ever in the last 3 weeks compared to before gamepass was out (small print only 2 million bothered playing longer than 20 seconds and only 100 people are playing it concurrently)

It's all smoke and mirrors

nibblo3h ago

There are usually around 10,000 concurrent users on Steam not counting Xbox or PS but really it doesn't matter as long as there are enough people on the servers to play which there always were and will be for a long time now with the PS players coming on board. Same goes for how many people bought it and how many are on GP, we aren't the accountants of these console companies so why would we care?

Hofstaderman1h ago

Reporting on MAU stats is very misleading. Other companies publish units sold, MS cannot or will not due to Game Pass. We all know that their prior startegies have not panned out so now they have to actually sell games on other consoles. In any case, SoT is doing impressive preorders on PS5 and will very likely motivate Satya to release more games other than the four indicated games on their competitor's consoles. Take note Phil is radio silent....

Abear212h ago

40 Mil across Stream, Windows 10, and Xbox. Healthy numbers for sure, but when PC is the biggest platform, I expected more. It’ll be interesting to see how it does on PlayStation. Very well could be double that player count in 6 months with PS too. It’s crazy for developers to skip the most popular platform, not sure why they’d want to, but they must have had their rea$ons.

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