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Thursday Throwdown: How will Sony respond to $399 Xbox One at E3?

"A couple of days ago Microsoft announced that it was dropping the Kinect from Xbox One in a future SKU due for release on June 9th, the day of E3. Why this was announced now and not at E3 is anyone's guess. We figure that the NPD numbers for April are not too impressive for Microsoft and they're making this announcement now in order to lessen the blow of the release of the NPD figures. If that's not it, we'll be surprised, but it's definitely a possibility." - David Wales, Stealthy Box

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theXtReMe13630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

They don't have to. The fact is, it is still a less powerful system. Camera or no camera, it doesn't matter. If they were to change the price of the system to $299, then it would make a difference. People may consider it specifically because they wouldnt have to spend so much money. But knowing you're getting a less powerful system at the same price, why wouldn't you opt for the more powerful one? That would be my only recommendation to Sony. Push forward the fact that the PlayStation 4 is the most powerful console on the market and is running games faster and at higher resolutions than the competition, so that even the most casual gamer on the street knows the facts. That way when they go to the store to purchase a system, they know that one is more powerful than the other and is the same price as the less powerful one.

Microsoft, somehow, now thinks they are operating on even ground with Sony with this price drop. Aren't they supposed to be some of the smartest people in the world? Or did the price drop automatically upgrade the Xbox One system performance? If that's the case, then the cloud is operating faster than they ever thought it would. Even beyond their own control and the Terminators are incoming. :)

HyperBear3630d ago

While I agree with some of your points, I'd still like to see Sony drop the PS4 price in Canada back down to $399. The "Canadian dollar is weaker" excuse has run it's course, cause if Microsoft can do it, why can't Sony?

Kingthrash3603630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

because of supply and demand.
for sony to drop the price right now would be a very bad business move...for 2 reasons.
1. its far too early for a drop..ms did the drop because they have to. the ps4 is selling too great for a drop.
2. sony's financial troubles. the ps4 success is a saving grace for sony. to lower the price would hurt them more than it would hurt ms.

sorry about the canada 50 bucks though...but look on the bright side, at least its not brazils price. think about it like this, japan has to pay alot more to ship the console to canada...the us is right next door.

TFJWM3630d ago

Sorry no reason to drop it in Canada. As for a PS4 price drop no reason to do it now. Drop it 20 bucks right before Christmas would be all they have to do. Having the lower price would help with parents in the holidays

memots3630d ago

with a Model that includes the Camera lol

Eddie201013630d ago

Sony raising the price in Canada had a lot to do with retailers wanting to continue to make some kind of profit on selling PS4's and that Sony can't afford to take any more of a loss on the system. It's unfortunate but that's the way it is.

UltraNova3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

Well seeing how you complain for the high price (not that I blame you)please be a doll and convert 430 euros to Canadian dollars. Hope it makes you feel better :-), I should know, since I used my viza to pay for my ps4 it still hurts like a bitch.

Giul_Xainx3629d ago

Games.

Games games and more games. Halo? Gears? Forza? Fable? Psh.

That is what xbox fans are expecting. Sony fans really don't know what to expect. If history repeats itself like the ps1..... something from left field will steal that spotlight from everyone. And it doesn't require David Hayter.

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AngelicIceDiamond3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

"did the price drop automatically upgrade the Xbox One system performance?"

No, but the games is what MS has to show to further compete with Sony.

If MS has some really compelling graphical technical games then the power difference wouldn't really matter as much.

Although multiplats will most likely always sell better on PS4.

overall great new Ip's to show off that they are on par with Sony's games in terms of quality and quanity.

With that said Sony's not gonna just let MS impress with the games Sony's said to have some hard hitters of there own.

So now that Kinect and this motion control craze gaming is officially taking a far backseat it seems the goal for winning ultimately comes down to original core gaming, compelling AAA's. And that will never change.

Sony knew that with PS4 and MS is just realizing that.

Why o why3630d ago

Can't dissagree. Ms have to fight with games. They dont have last gens advantages at their disposal this time around. Better for gamers either way.

Samsara823630d ago

you are right....

content on consoles is way more important than graphics performance (especially when the difference is not that much)...If you want graphics...PC is always there...

but price was a big difference for people that were on the fence of getting either console, let's face it most people don't come on these websites comparing Resolution and FPS....people buy content and features...not resolution/fps

BattleAxe3630d ago

Make PS+ non-mandatory for online play, and it's a wrap.

Nekroo913630d ago

Never going to happen, sony needs money and microsoft litteraly makes billions with xbox live.

If sony achieves 15 million ps subscritions ( lets say 20 million consoles sold)by the end of this year..that makes 750 million cash almost the same amount Sony got from the entire gaming division, just with a subscrition fee.

hot4play3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

Agree. As a consumer, I feel it is a little unfair to charge for online play. (damn M$ for starting the trend with xbox live)

I wanted to play Killzone SF online the other day but I remembered that my PS+ subscription has already expired.

Makes the PS3 era look like "the good ole days" haha

EDIT: Lol @ the disagree, you don't want FREE ONLINE for games you already PAID FOR? haha

Sci0n3630d ago

online only games are already f2p on PS4 regarding subs. No PS plus is required to play warframe, planeside 2, dcuo, ffxiv, warthunder and soon to be many other online only games.

BattleAxe3630d ago

^^^

Who cares about F2P games?

palaeomerus3630d ago

Q: "Who cares about F2P games?"

A: People who are stuck playing them during this game drought and don't have a PC.

zeuanimals3630d ago

@BattleAxe:

The 30 million + who play League of Legends on a daily basis. One of my most anticipated games is F2P too, Planetside 2.

MysticStrummer3630d ago

"Who cares about F2P games?"

I do. I'm looking forward to Planetside 2 on my TV and sound system. H1Z1 and War Thunder aren't far behind.

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Derekvinyard133630d ago

By announcing more games, because in the end that's what it's all about. Don't matter how powerful something is, if it looks fun people will buy it.

badz1493630d ago

yeah, seriously? Sony need to respond now that a weaker console that is selling 3 million less than their PS4 is now at the same price? I just don't get it.

the effect brought by the kinect-less SKU is still unknown and it seems like people have already forgotten that the PS3 outsold the 360 while priced higher for the entire generation.

and please stop spewing nonsense like "MS will win because of the games" thing! feels like a freakin deja vu already like in 2007! it's extremely pre-mature to judge based on games library a mere 6 months into current gen. you guys think that Sony will just sit back because they have already sold 7+ mil PS4 and come to E3 saying "we rules!" and then drop the mic and end their presentation just like that?

you guys are funny!

CYCLEGAMER3630d ago

@thextreme1
The problem in your statement is that the average person/gamer knows nothing about gpu's and cpus and most of the time will not understand or care for the differences in power and or resolution. All of my close gamer friends are casual and rely on me for info. They literally looked at me crazy when I asked them if they noticed any difference in battlefield on both systems. The only thing casuals know is what us hardcore gamers tell them. The average person will not be able to tell the difference.

MS unbundling the kinect and matching the ps4 in price kind of forces the console war to be about the actual games...and I like it.

showtimefolks3630d ago

why should they respond? they are doing everything right. Just have a strong E3 and release playstation now

fact is you can get a ps4 for $399
or a weaker xbox one for $399

I am sure price will make xbox one sell better compared to ps4 but to expect it to outsell ps4 is over expecting

HacSawJimThugin3630d ago

The difference in power is marginal at best. The inferior console has the only current gen game running @ 1080p/60fps. The supposed "most power console on the market" has none. Not one. No multiplats or 1st party.
The PS4 is selling well because it's easier to spend 400 instead of 5. Of course there are a number of other factors that factor into this but price is the main reason.

The average consumer doesn't know the first thing about teraflops and graphics cards. When they (the parents) enter Walmart or GameStop or whatever store to purchase the latest console the, 1st thing they ask about is price not specs. If one ran the same game side by side the average consumer would be hard pressed to pick the one with the higher resolution. Period. We only know because of press releases and sites like digital foundry. Disagree all you like but it's the truth.

Games are the determining factor and E3 is fast approaching. MS is still in this race and anyone who says otherwise was born with the ability to reason.

rainslacker3630d ago

If Sony continues to sell at their current rate, or better, or even a bit less, they don't have to really do anything to respond. Even if MS starts selling on par with PS4 they don't have to do anything, because Sony is exceeding their own expectations.

Sony is in a good position, as they can wait until the cost to manufacture goes down and then pass along the savings, but quick price drops aren't necessary. They could even bundle in a game and still make money off the PS+ subscription.

greenlantern28143629d ago

I agree, unless this move by MS dramatically changes Sony's sales than why do anything. Because if they just drop the price automatically then it will appear to some people they don't believe the system is worth the money. Also will seem like they think the only way to beat ms us to be cheaper.

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XiSasukeUchiha3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

Off topic: Pretty much a good way to get people to buy a Xbone is to price drop it to $350-$380 globally for Xbox ONE to justified the lack in power to the PS4. Last gen the PS3 was charged because of the power, and blu ray and then price dropped after Blu ray discs and player were affordable while X360 was lower than PS3 because of less power, and No Blu ray. In conclusion if your were smart enough to understand you should see how I thinking of this is connected to power of the console, justified the price point , not the make or how much it's was to make. Please don't bring PC into this comment because I'm talking about Consoles and not PC. So please people justified the Xbone price point because no matter how the justification goes Xbone will be weaker in specs compared to the PS4, and if the Xbone was stronger or equal to the PS4 the price point would make sense. This is my opinion and mine alone.

P.S/ On topic: Canada and Austrailla decrease the PS4s price to $400 would make sense but at the same time justified the power difference.

XStation3630d ago

"Off topic"

And that is the reason why you have one bubble.

TimeSkipLuffy3630d ago

Sony is quite an arrogant company. I think they will not try something big now that they have the lead.
That said I love PlayStation, I just wish they would listen to gamers more.

Lowsnamebrand3630d ago

can you enlighten me on how Sony isn't listening to the customers?

TimeSkipLuffy3630d ago

There are several features many PS users wish for a long time and the PS4 is even missing a lot of features from the PS3. PSN name change is one of the most wished feature which hasn't implemented even now that the PS4 is released.

I don't say MS is better. I just wish they would do updates on a regular basis. Get their maintenance low, get the store updates on time, etc...

ah better customer support would be very appreciated :D

fenome3630d ago

Are you seriously defending Microsoft by calling a different company arrogant? lmao

TimeSkipLuffy3630d ago

nope. I don't defend MS. They can go to hell XD!
I have been with Sony since the PS1 but not because of Sony. I just love the PlayStation brand and how games made it the best console ever.

Why o why3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

Couple typos there luffy, or maybe your auto correct is playing up or switched to bizzaro mode....smh

fenome3629d ago (Edited 3629d ago )

Hey, my bad, I guess I misread your comment somehow. You didn't even mention Microsoft, I don't know why I thought you were comparing the two or whatever. Lol

My mistake, wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, sorry about that! :)

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URNightmare3630d ago

Sony will respond as always, with a great line up of exclusive gotys that you can play only in Playstation 4 and letting everyone see the superiority of the system over the Xbox One.

They will top it off with Playstation Now and Project Morpheus.

Xbox doesn't stand a chance against the Playstation brand. Playstation's quality is way ahead of the competition.

MRMagoo1233630d ago

Exactly, every generation of consoles Sony have delivered the best console exclusives, anyone that has been with sony since the ps1 KNOW this for a fact. That is why most Playstation owners dont mind the slow starts at launch because they know whats coming and thats a mountain of amazing games.

Kribwalker3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

Nintendo would like to say hi. Legend of Zelda is by far the greatest exclusive IP ever. Ocarina of time is the top game on 90+% of greatest games of all time and smash brothers, Mario brothers ect ect ect are the best exclusives out there. I don't even own a wii u yet, but I will pick one up when the prices drop lower just for those specific games

mrpsychoticstalker3630d ago

If this was the case, then why after such glorified console... former ps1 ps2 and ps3 owners like myself, switched to xbox? I support both of them. But i honestly game more on the Xbox side of things. Got my ps3 for God of war, after I finished it sold.

MysticStrummer3630d ago

@Krib - Nintendo hasn't been a factor in my gaming world since I was a teenager. Their exclusives don't interest me at all. Other than the Wii fad, the same can be said for every gamer I know.

@stalker - No one I know has any interest in XB1, though every gamer I know bought a 360 simply because it released first. By about halfway through the generation they had all switched back to PS. 360 released first, and then many people simply followed their friends. The current numbers don't scream brand loyalty toward XB.

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Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow18h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos6h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos4h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje4h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon4h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola1h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola1h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum59m ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad4h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola1h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos1h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai3h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK3h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh3h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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FACTUAL evidence8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.