One of the writers at Middle of Nowhere Gaming dove into some issues he had with MGS: Ground Zeroes. Do you agree with him? Did Hideo Kojima go too far?
Spoilers for MGSV: Ground Zeroes and Trigger Warning for Rape, PTSD, and similar issues
300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.
I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.
But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake
I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.
Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.
Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."
People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.
He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead
I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that
To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.
I can't stand these paid glorified demos.
Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.
I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.
I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).
Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.
I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...
Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.
I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game
"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."
Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.
That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.
I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.
Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.
"For every misfire like this one; there is a silver lining. Games like Papa y Yo and Gone Home tackle more mature themes and handle them with such a deft touch that it gives hope that gaming can tell more adult stories. Unfortunately, Metal Gear is not one of those; and I don’t think I’ll be playing one again."
Lol, he doesn't want to play MGS again just because of this?! Oh man, gaming journos this day really fucked up!
Anyway, already read the article and just like i guess the writer didn't had any clue about MGS. So, i'll put this link for the writer and people who approved this.
http://www.twinfinite.net/b...
Not even worth discussing. Dead topic. You either care way too much, or have an alternate agenda(people calling foul on it being priced $20-$30), or you don't care.
Well as the first to make a post let me say I read this article and yes people it's garbage please don't give them any views. One is enough.
Now I'm not saying it's garbage because hey I like Ground Zeroes, Metal Gear Solid, or Kojima, honestly I am a harsh critic when it comes to series but I still find this article as pure garbage.
First off the lay out is just horrible with it being so short but spaced out so much that it makes the page longer.
Secondly the complaints he brings is that the horrible acts done upon Paz is there to just give you a reason to hate Skull Face and that it devalues women. So here's the thing tell me why is giving you a reason to hate Skull Face a bad thing?
If he didn't do anything against anyone, hurt anyone than why would I bother to do anything, the fight would be meaningless since there is no sense of conflict. So him doing the things he did is there yes to make you hate them but that doesn't devalue Paz and the reason why is because even in the face of all these brutal acts guess what she never betrayed Big Boss.
So it shows how strong she is because she took on the abuse all so she could protect him, even in the tape where she talks about Zero is not even her breaking down under torture but as an act to save someone she cared for. So she was not devalued.
Also SPOILERS while yes you don't see the character's reacting to her death it's because guess what the explosion caused them to crash. Finally yes the vagina bomb is a bit much but you know what at the same time what else could they do? They are trying to blow up Big Boss and shoving another bomb in her stomach wasn't happening so yeah one in her uterus is the only other hiding place.
You know I understand in gaming we do tend to sexualize female characters and put them as just a goal or motivation for a main character but you know there's a limit. Stop making everything an issue when some stuff shouldn't be, I can understand if a woman said how uncomfortable the thought could be but you know with the context behind it you can't call it sexist.
To make a long story short for the guys who won't read the wall prior, badly presented article that wants to wave the sexist banner for no reason.
I dunno... my mom liked the game, so women don't seem to just hate the game, stop generalizing.
oh okay, l didn't know l didn;t like the game, thanks random person.