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Why I Have Given Up On Nintendo

Max Level: The NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) was the first console that I have ever owned. I remember jumping on top of Goombas’ heads while keeping a steady pace and trying to beat my high score at the same time, was so exhilarating as a kid. Playing Super Mario Bros. on the NES was something special, something magical. My parents still have old photos of me as a child in diapers, enjoying various games that the NES had to offer — I was a very happy child at the time. Sometimes, my older cousin would come over and indulge on some multi-player with me , when he babysat me; there was nothing like couch multi-player at that time. It was wonderful, playing games such as: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Duck Hunt, Megaman, and Castlevania . My next console was the SNES (Super Nintendo Entertainment System), everything that I loved from the previous console was there, but with upgraded graphics and a much sleeker design for its body and controllers. Then there was: the N64 (Nintendo 64), GameCube, Wii, and the Wii U.

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Garethvk3646d ago

Ours just sits on the shelf. I did play the new Donkey Kong a few times but it got boring fast. Their p.r. is awful as they want all the coverage but never send product to review. When you say fine, no more coverage their cry poverty and then send some old 3Ds codes to appease you. Now they want us to push Mario Kart 8 and said well we will log your request. I said no, you guarentee a review copy or no coverage.

mohuzas3646d ago

I find it interesting how a lot of people feel entitled to free shit these says.

DarthZoolu3646d ago

I have a WiiU I have Nintendoland, Pikman3 and NSMW3D. I beat 3dw in a day. Pikman was fun for 3 days.

@mohuzas I find it interesting that a company refuses to do what consumers are asking for. I also find it interesting that Nintendo thinks they can charge what they do for their games. Based on development costs Nintendo games should be about $15 cheaper across the board.

I once thought Nintendo should be a software company, but I was wrong because I don't want to play the games the way they have been making them for the last 8 years on any system.

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Garethvk3646d ago

If they are getting free write ups, free magazine covers, free radio spots, free newspaper articles and more how is it wrong for us to expect a review copy now and then? All the other companies send product otherwise your giving them free advertising. Plus they expect you to tell people how great something is but do not want you to play it in advance.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3646d ago

Who needs YOU to do a review when the rest of us will gladly do them for free, once the game is released, and send along the reviews to major sites everywhere, because we actually love the games?
Take your entitlement and kick rocks.

Garethvk3646d ago

We offer national radio, newspaper, online, and an international magazine. If a company asks you for coverage it is standard ti provide review materials. Nintendo doesn't. So when Sony, Microsoft, e.a and the others do so and Nintendo does not, why should we continue to take time and resources to support then over others?

3-4-53646d ago

Hey Gareth - Need some cheese with that whine ?

Garethvk3646d ago

I dont care we get plenty of stuff from the others and much better games at that my point is they do not support reviewers the way the others do hence they do not get the coverage others get.

N4g_null3646d ago

Thanks for posting. Now we see the real reason why Nintendo doesn't get any coverage or just gets the "oh well nintendo is boring crap". The media wants to dictate what they want. I think it's time other gamers start their own sites. We have too many older immature people in this industry. These people have lost sight of what gaming is or was and it has become a cog in the social media gold rush.

One thing you can always point out is they care enough to bad talk nintendo. If they really didn't like Nintendo and their current games then they would move on and not look back.

An adult does not wine about a corporation. They state their case and move on. I've been waiting on sony to become a real console power house in game play since the ps2. It hasn't happened..... maybe I should start a few websites demanding this? Maybe I should talk about sony selling shares back to square? Maybe I should look into why sony kart game suck why they have no 2d games coming from in house? Why do they have accessories that have no good games attached to them?

This would cause a real storm and make my website a ton of money also. Nintendo has no fanboys we go where the good games are.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

Why?
Because review copies are a courtesy, not something you're entitled to, and there are plenty of other ways that you could get a copy of the game.
A rental, or borrowing from a friend who will also get the game, amongst other options.

There are plenty of people out there who are more than willing to do a review without expectation of a free copy of the game.

You're demonizing them over a favor that you're used to receiving from others.
You make it sound like you've been spoiled and now think you deserve to get a free copy of anything you write a review of, POSSIBLY on top of whatever you get as a paycheck for the work in the first place.

If you don't want to do reviews for good games because you don't get the games for free, then regardless of system, leave those games to others who actually appreciate them enough to go out and buy them, to put their opinion out there for the benefit of the community at large, rather than for favors paid to them.

You are replaceable in the review market.
There are plenty of others that will get copies of the game, free and otherwise, and do reviews in your stead.

mii-gamer3646d ago

It seems that you are the entitled douche, and the way you behave in these feorums, particulaarly when people call out your BS (especially in that article you wrote about the Wii U mall experience last year, yes i remember because memory is incredible) pretty confirms this. You are a snob and I don't blame nintendo not wanting to work with you, nor should they.

http://n4g.com/news/1461184...

http://n4g.com/news/1417238...

Have a seat, take a that finger out of your ass and be exposed.

mii-gamer3646d ago

It seems that you are the entitled douche, and the way you behave in these feorums, particulaarly when people call out your BS (especially in that article you wrote about the Wii U mall experience last year, yes i remember because my memory is incredible) pretty confirms this. You are a snob and I don't blame nintendo not wanting to work with you, nor should they.

http://n4g.com/news/1461184...

http://n4g.com/news/1417238...

Have a seat, take a that finger out of your ass and be exposed.

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x2geex3646d ago

Article sucked. This guy would rather have a movie story line then AAA game play? He has it backwards. Prolly would get his ass whipped in Mariokart and Smash Bros.

randomass1713646d ago

Thing is you can have both. But just because Nintendo games don't usually have them doesn't mean the games are bad. And besides, some of Nintendo's games have a lot of story. Kid Icarus Uprising, Metroid Prime 3, Xenoblade Chronicles, this author just hasn't played the right games.

RPGrinder3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

Sorry I cannot take this guy seriously. All of his points are not only ridiculously false, They are generalized nonsense.

WalterWJR3646d ago

Funny timing as I just bought my first Nintendo console since the GameCube.

DarthZoolu3646d ago

I got my Wiiu for $100 anything more than $200 is not worth it.

randomass1713646d ago

It's an HD console with a gamepad that you can play games on and an upcoming Mario Kart and Smash Bros. game. Of course it's worth $200. Why don't you just demand you get a high end PC for $100?

wonderfulmonkeyman3646d ago

You have apparently forgotten that underselling so drastically is why PS3 stayed in debt for so long.
Nintendo doesn't want to have their own creation leeching profits out of them.
The tech inside is worth more than $200; anything less than that would be stupid to expect.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel10d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing9d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.