PS4 and Xbox One graphics disparity continues: Trials Fusion runs at 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbox

Venturebeat:

"Ubisoft is about to release the next entry in its motorcycle-platforming series on consoles and PC next week, and — like other multiplatform games — it has a slightly higher resolution on the PlayStation 4 than on the Xbox One.

Trials Fusion hits Wednesday for the PS4, Xbox One, and Xbox 360 (and PC on April 24), and developer RedLynx promises that it runs at a smooth 60 frames per second on all of those systems. It will not, however, run at the same resolution. Ubisoft has confirmed to GamesBeat that Fusion will run at 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbox One. Those numbers refer to the number of horizontal lines the game is rendering for every frame of animation."

[NYC_Gamer]

Wow,MS really needs to get those updated drivers[they claimed fixed performance]to developers..Its crazy when an indie game can't be full HD on a 500 dollar console.

[lelo]

I agree. Like it or not, being a fanboy or not, most people should admit that the X1 is not worth 500€. It's a overpriced piece of hardware... Microsoft is trying to imitate Apple with it's overpriced products. At this moment the X1 should be priced 350-400€ and (if existed and if Microsoft were smart) a Kinect-less X1 should be priced at 300€.

I know the most important thing that defines a console are it's games, but it's inadmissible that a game like Trials Fusion runs only at 900p on the X1.

[Gozer]

If you don't own an X1 you really cant credibly comment on what the X1 is worth. Sure you can state your opinion but I would listen to someone who owns one more closely than some random poster stating their opinion. I own an X1 and it has been great. I actually bought 2 at launch, one for me, one for my son and I have no regrets.

[T2]

Totally agree and price cuts this early such as titanfall plus xbl for 449 proves that it's overpriced because price is set by consumers, and at 499 they said hell no

[MysticStrummer]

@Gozer - MS themselves has admitted XB1 was overpriced by dropping that price and including what was supposed to be their biggest system seller for free.

I bought a launch PS3 for full price and never regretted it, but even I know it was priced too high for the market's liking.

[Tempest317]

@gozer

I understand you giving more weight to the opinion of an owner vs non owner, but you cant really say non owners cant credibly comment on what its worth. I know All the functions and I also know and understand the hardware specs...how is my opinion not credible? The reason I havemt bought one is its not worth the price imo...so youre saying for my opinion that its overpriced to be valid, I would have had to bought one at full msrp? Just so I can credibly say it wasnt worth the money? Seems a little ridiculous to me.

Edit: if the price was $400 id probably get one...if it was $350 Id have one for sure

[Sethry101]

I have yet to see any solid proof of anything that will improve the graphical power output of the Xbox. I have no doubt drivers will help in the long term, but not to the extent that is being claimed.

[fr0sty]

Then there's also the fact that Sony has its own team of coders typing away creating new PS4 drivers as well. Both systems will benefit from software upgrades over the course of the generation.

[Sethry101]

Exactly, I have never understood the argument that drivers will help one consol catch up to another.

Firstly software can never compensate for hardware.

Secondly, both console will see driver updates, not just one.

[Jumper09]

SDK updates wont fix missing Hardware power. People still forget that the Memory Setup is worse and the GPU is way weaker than the PS4 GPU.

People have to accept that Xbone Hardware for what it is.

[u got owned]

@Jumper09

"People have to accept that Xbone Hardware for what it is."

I think people already accepted and are enjoying their boxes it is the PS4 fans who keep talking and keep bringing the same thing over and over

[TitanUp]

software tools can get better for X1 and ps4 but when it comes to hardware being as they are closed they cant get any better.

[Kayant]

@u got owned

"I think people already accepted and are enjoying their boxes it is the PS4 fans who keep talking and keep bringing the same thing over and over" - The recent hopes of supposed 2X improvement and cloud rendering possibilities says otherwise.

[u got owned]

@Kayant

Having hopes of the box improving (which it will and if you think otherwise then you are blind) and enjoying their boxes is completely different. Its like saying "i dont want my ps4 to improve because im happy about how it performing right know)

[scotmacb]

Anyway you get a really good game now on uour system xbox owners have been playing these for years

[Kayant]

@u got owned

Good point I can't disagree with that I should have been more clear before. I was more trying to say that some people still have it in their minds that there the disparity between the two consoles will end given we know the specs, we have seen how launch games and post launch games have performed, both consoles will see improvements as time goes on yet they believe a API(software) update will somehow make the XB1 more powerful than the PS4 or on par with it in every title because that's what that supposed 2X performance will do.

[TomShoe]

misterxmedia must be throwing a fit right now.

[MasterCornholio]

Didn't Mr.X say that Microsoft wanted to hold back the Xbox Ones power to surprise Sony later on in the generation?

In my opinion he is crazy and his followers (like Truefan,georgeenoob, green powers) are crazy as well.

[amazinglover]

Agreed also with the rate at the updates have been coming it would seem the MS wanted to have a release of November this year and only brought it out last year as to not give Sony a year head start.

[k3rn3ll]

Well that's common knowledge man. Its not really a secret. Also why d12 isn't out yet is it was suppose to coincide with launch or shortly thereafter.

[lifeisgamesok]

It goes back to the statement Microsoft made

They said they are giving developers the option of better quality of pixels or more pixels

These developers were probably just lazy

If Forza is 1080p this game could be too and have great quality pixels in 1080p

900p and 1080p is the most subtle difference anyway

[gameslayer2411]

I still don't get how people who sink multiple hours out of their lives, of spending time with family, to fully commit to working ridiculously hard on a project, can be called lazy. You can't say that somebody who's whole pay check revolves around the success of a game, would be lazy in their job. That is plain stupid, and an utterly rude statement. Grow the hell up dude, before you call someone lazy, you got out there, and you make a game and pour your life into it, then when it doesn't match up to fanboy standards, deal with being called lazy when you did your best. Man...Shove off....

[Kayant]

"They said they are giving developers the option of better quality of pixels or more pixels" - Looooooooool this is golden. Seriously better quality *pixels*. Yh right the magical upscaler fixes everything doesn't....

"These developers were probably just lazy" - So lazy that this isn't the first time we have seen a disparity between both consoles when a game is 60fps or 1080p.

"If Forza is 1080p this game could be too" - That's true but it sacrificed a lot of visual effects to get there.

[HeWhoWalks]

Forza 5 is an anomaly, as evidenced by the disparity between how many games run in 1080p on the PS4 (both exclusive and 3rd party) and the ones that do on the X1. Besides, without a shred of proof, your claims of "laziness" sound more like a deterrent and a "please understand" attitude more than anything else.

Make no mistake, I have no doubt that the X1 can output games (in specific situations, given what we know about the hardware) in 1080p, but it's having trouble matching the PS4 because, well, weaker hardware is weaker hardware.

[Applejack]

First of all, to say the developers are just lazy when you don't have a clue about the process is ridiculous. Second, everyone knows the only reason Forza 5 ran at 1080p was because it was majorly downgraded (look at Sethry101 and The_Infected's comments). Finally, you downplay the difference between 1080p and 900p so with that logic, you wouldn't mind Forza 5 to be at 900p since you apparently can't tell?

[Sarcasm]

Ah yes, when all else fails. Say the developers are lazy.

So I guess all these developers are Lazy then,

Crytek - Ryse
Capcom - Dead Rising 3
Respawn - Titanfall
Konami - MGS GZ
Infinity Ward - COD Ghosts
DICE - BF4
Rare - Killer Instinct

Need I go on?

[ger2396]

If its subtle, Microsoft should just make all games on xbox1 900p. Problem solved.

[ger2396]

Double post

[GarrusVakarian]

I disagree, MS isn't giving the devs anything but the hardware, the devs themselves make the options in terms of resolution based off of said hardware.

"Quality of pixels" doesn't mean what you think it means. The quality of pixels completely depends on the panels that manufactures use for TV's and monitors.

And calling a group of people who's bills are paid by putting thousands of hours into making games lazy is just plain rude and ignorant imo.

[Why o why]

Arghh, the good ol 'run to forza' retort......ill call this the 'jimmy falon'

I've heard many tout ms as the software dons but even they can only do so much with the weaker hardware. Things will improve but they will also improve on the ps4

[mixelon]

Hahahaha! "better quality pixels". XD

Wow.

[esemce]

Microsoft were they lazy and disrespectful ones as they knew they had their loyal fans by the balls deeply invested/hooked on Xb live and could get away with skimping costs on the hardware to cater to to the casual multimedia crowd. The hardcore gamers came last to them.

[Kryptix]

@lifeis

"They said they are giving developers the option of better quality of pixels or more pixels"

They never said that, provide the link.

"These developers were probably just lazy"

You just called every developer lazy. Respawn must be lazy because Titanfall isn't running at 1080p. Your logic is completely flawed because most multiplatform games run better on PS4.

"If Forza is 1080p this game could be too and have great quality pixels in 1080p"

If Forza is 1080p...is that really the only game on Xbox One that runs at 1080p? What about, if Dead Rising 3...wait, let me try that again. If Ryse...nope, you can't use that.

"900p and 1080p is the most subtle difference anyway"

Then why are you here complaining? So there is a difference then. 1080p is better than anything lower, let's just leave it at that and you need the more powerful hardware to run it.

[mogwaii]

Its the principle

[Jumper09]

drivers wont fix missing hardware power. When will people finally accept that?

[Zombro]

I have but a console that has my friends on it is better then one without friends

[Omegasyde]

@ Zombro -

Good point, but who out of your friends was the first to go Xbox only? Now if they chose the console due to the kinect, do you enjoy the kinect? Did they choose it because of Achievements, what about your Achievements? Can you use your achievements to win/bid on real items? Does yjr Xbox live rewards not require either a survey or that I purchase something?

Do you all play the exclusives Xbox one games together, and if not, why did you all choose the Xbone?

http://pixelapocalypse.ctrl...

TL:DR Don't be a follower, be a leader.

[Jazz4108]

The xboxone is a incredibly fun console to play and own and that is what matters. Bicker on about resolution now.

[randomass171]

Not that I feel the resolutions are a big issue, but Microsoft would be smart to help make development better on the platform. A smaller game like this should run at the same resolution as PS4.

[AgentSmithPS4]

It's known that one console is less powerful but could the difference in resolution be partially related to how Ubisoft feels about things that don't sell enough product? Like the "1 million Morpheus'" comment http://n4g.com/news/1480435...

Since the PS4 sells more? http://www.extremetech.com/...

It's a complicated issue, of course parity shouldn't be forced but should a company have to spend more than half the time on a weaker system because that's what was given to them? Don't Ubihard on the underdog Ubisoft!

[OrangePowerz]

Doubtful, the AC ports for.the WiiU are quite good and that one sells really bad.

[andrewsqual]

Updated drivers to correct the very basic and simple thing that is the eSRAM bottleneck? Whatever you say.

[MeLoveRamen]

For everybody saying that it isn't the xbox1's fault, it's the developers, You have to remember that the xbone couldn't run killer instinct at 1080p, its 720p and thats a 2D fighter and titanfall is a 6vs6 fps that can only output 792p so really i could totally see the bone struggling to run this game at a full crisp 1080p if it couldn't run a 2d fighter in full HD.

[quenomamen]

Drivers no fix em, weak hardware.

[DeathOfTheFanBoy]

This again?

[nosferatuzodd]

homer Simpson laugh HA HA

[gobluesamg]

You mean Nelson laugh?

[killzone619]

fail

[mark3214uk]

why wont the devs come out and say why they cant go above 900p on games? we can all speculate and say its not powerfull enough but it would be nice to hear from a dev thats had the exp with it,do the fps drop dramaticly when they go above 900p?

[showtimefolks]

i don't know why we need so many articles, let me say it once and for all. This generation PS4 is the console you want to play all games. Exclusives,3rd party games etc,

xbox one needs to offer more exclusives so people will have a reason to buy one for exclusives

3rd party games were generally better on xbox360 now 3rd party games are better on ps4. No amount of made up stuff like cloud gaming or Dx12 will make xbox one more stronger then ps4. Just wait till ND do a game on ps4 and it will be all but over

GDDR5 memory will come into play big time in few years. Also this shows sony got a lot of feedback and made the best possible console. Mark Cenry deserves a lot of credit

[Kiwi66]

not everyone will agree with you about the ps4 being the console to own for all games as believe it or not there are people that prefer the xbox for all their gaming needs so no the ps4 is not the console for all games as you say

[Hroach616]

@showtime

Well said. I have both systems, and I played all my multipat games last gen on my 360. Used the PS3 for exclusives. This gen I switched it up and only use my X1 for exclusives. As a gamer, not a fanboy, I don't understand why people deny the truth. I love both systems. But the PS4 is better all around. Mark Cerny and Sony did a great job.

[Pablo18474]

Wow! You can tell the difference between 1080p 60fps and 900p 60fps. I would say that's a bigger WOW!

[HacSawJimThugin]

Yea all if a sudden EVERYONE can tell the difference between 900 and 1080....who cares. I said it once and I will say it again, as long as it plays smooth I'm good 900 or 1080.

[Section8uk]

You can definitely tell the difference on a 55" screen.

Having said that, I would be quite happily play a game at 900p without complaining if I had nothing to compare it against.

[Zombro]

It's not 500 it's 399 with a free game now

[Hroach616]

Not everywhere, only in some markets or retailers. As soon as that is dropped everywhere then it's an official price drop. Retailers are doing it to recoup losses, like target for example. And certain markets are doing it because they were falling too far behind in sales compared to the PS4. Where I live even on amazon it's still $499. Granted it does come with Titenfall.

[headblackman]

this is a small development group which more than likely has an older x1 sdk kit. that's why they are having resolution issues.

[OrangePowerz]

Right they don't have internet to download the latest SDK.

[iceman06]

Or, based on the information that has been out since the beginning of the generation from many developers, it is just more difficult to optimize code on the Xbox 1. Thus, creating a longer timeline for development and eating up funds that a small development group doesn't have to waste. Remember, PS3 suffered from the same issues and multiplats often came out "sub-par". Not because it couldn't do it. But, because it cost too much to achieve that benchmark for most developers.

[kenshiro100]

Wow truefan, you just gave delusional and crazy brand new names.

It's really sad that an expensive console like the XB1 can't even display impressive graphics in this day and age of technology.

[BattleTorn]

$500 console struggling with indie hehe

[imt558]

It won't happen.

It’s physically impossible for Xbox One to match PS4 performance.

Deal with it, Xbone fans. DX12, cloud...etc ( :rolleyes:) won't save Xbone. NEVER

[gamer7804]

by putting "never" at the end of your sentence negated everything you said, just fyi.

[Matt666]

Who cares aslong as you enjoy the game for what it is, that the problem with a lot of "gamers" these days they only seem to care about graphics, as long as you got a nice balance of graphics and gameplay I don't see the problem. Graphics give it that unique feeling, like mincraft, the wolf amoung us etc, while gameplay gives you a good story.

Fanboys make me laugh few years ago they would of been mocking Sony's PS3 how the resolution wasn't the same as the 360's, now they suddenly jumped ship and try to make out that they been Sony fans all along.

If your going to call yourself a gamer, respect other peoples opinions and respect the other consoles for what they are.

[gamer7804]

why do you have so many agrees, trials is not an indie game... that says it all

[Soc5]

Yeah, that's kind of sad

[avengers1978]

Simple one machine was built for great games, the other was trying to be an all in one device, thus gimping all aspects.
PS4 will always have the better games they put the effort into making a great game machine witch is what consumers and devs wanted

[ColManischewitz]

Who can really tell the difference? Let's argue about mechanics and quality, not about resolution differences that you can't really see.

[GarrusVakarian]

It depends completely on the individual, i can clearly tell the difference between Titanfall (792p), BF4 on PS4 (900p) and 1080p games like Infamous and Tomb Raider...and that's from sitting 10 feet away from a 42 inch TV. Other people genuinely can't tell the difference though, i don't suppose that's a bad thing tbh.....

I agree that there are more important aspects, i'm just giving my two cents on the whole res thing. 900p or 1080p, this game looks fun. Can't wait to play it.

@meditate this

"Yeah sure you can."

I don't need internet strangers telling me what i can and can't see on my own TV own my own consoles. You don't believe me? Great, good for you. But i can tell a difference between 720-900-1080p. Easily.

I don't see your point about BF4 on the PS4......ive played it on my PS4 for 140 hours at 900p....and ive played it on my friends gtx 680 setup at 1080p and the 1080p version looks much sharper than my PS4 version. So what exactly are you getting at?

Why does it upset you that i can tell differences between resolutions? When i think about it...the less able you are to notice resolution differences, the less disappointed you will be when you play games at a lower res.

Ask any PC gamer on this website if he can tell the differences between those 3 resolutions. I bet you he/she will say they can.

[mediate-this]

Yeah sure you can. You can tell the difference when its ps4 vs x1 but not when its ps4 vs p.c, any graphicly demanding game on ps4 that can do full res n framerate? Bf4 by far the best game on both systems, the most demanding and again ps4 can not play it at full res or frame rate

[Bathyj]

Who said we couldn't tell the difference between consoles and pc?

Just cos we choose to game on console doesn't mean we don't know pc's are better looking.

[GarrusVakarian]

In addition to my above comment, i will even go one step further...i can also tell the difference between a 1080p game with poor AA and a 1080p game with good AA.

I won't mention which games im talking about in case i start something, but some people in a certain camp have to accept that others can easily see resolution differences and that they are only saying otherwise because of their version being the "lesser" version in terms of resolution. Or they are being sincere in saying they can't tell a difference, but there are a few people here saying that it's a *fact* that there is no difference. Which is a lie.

If there wasn't a noticeable difference, devs simply wouldn't run anything above 720p, they would save the processing power for elsewhere. It would make no sense to waste power on non-distinguishable resolutions.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ mediate-this

If you can't tell the difference as clear as this, you must have severe visual deficiency: http://i.minus.com/iW998p1o...

[RealtorMDandDC]

Totally agree with you. People that say they can't tell the difference between 1080p and anything lesser is so full of it.

Play COD on PS3 then play it on PS4 There's a very noticeable difference...

Play AC4 on PS3 and then PS4..the game almost looks next gen..I was in awe at times with AC4...and I never ever purchased an AC game in my life until PS4....

1080p makes a big difference at least for me.

[scott182]

People can see a resolution difference between Titanfall 792p on X1 and sub 720p on 360. But somehow the same people can ever see a resolution difference when it comes to PS4 vs X1. Kinda strange.

[GribbleGrunger]

Why is it always the people who can't get the 1080p version on their console that can't see the difference? Serious question.

[Visiblemarc]

Getting kind of tired of this one. No offense to those who can't see the difference, but to many, if not most, it's super obvious. That is why 1080 is pursued for films, television and games to begin with.

[Kayant]

What's the story here? Resolution not how well/fun or whatever the game is. I really wish we would stop with these excuses everytime.

As there are lots of people who can tell the difference between resolution, framerates, etc. So I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed just because some people can't tell the difference. If that's the case we would all still be using sub HD Tvs/monitors none would people even bother about full HD yet alone HD.

[Visiblemarc]

Exactly. It's sort of like good headphones. Some people can't tell a $5 pair from a $500 pair.

Do you see forums talking about high end headphones full of people saying "who can hear the difference anyway?!" Nope.

If being picky about graphics doesn't suit people, why do they read articles about being picky about graphics and comment on them?

The whole argument makes no sense to me, period. Graphics are part of immersion and immersion is part of fun, for many, along with gameplay, which of course, is king.

Yet, a car's key feature is transportation, yet is there something wrong about talking about the comfort of it's seats?

Same applies to gameplay vs graphics. Remove the "vs" it's never either/or.

[k3rn3ll]

The reason I feel this way is because of the "console war" this is what most discussion has turned to on the internet. I mean really how many times can we have the same argument?

In this day in age it sucks that every new game 95% of the press and message boards are about resolution differences. And we only fuel these articles by debating them. Therefore we end up getting less and less actual news before a release because the main news sites know people will click these stories.

I've said it before but I flat out feel bad for devs. To put years of work into a project just to have it ripped apart in the fan wars due to a number on the back of a case. Only to have that be the closest thing to appreciation your going to get from fans because they are just going to move on to the next resolution story when the next news cycle begins.

At least that's what I think/hope some people mean when they say "can we stop having this discussion". Thanks for letting me rant for a bit guys

[RealtorMDandDC]

Totally agree....If resolution did not matter We will still be using VHS and CRT TV's.

Resolution and frame rate DOES matters...frame rate is mattering more in even movies.

Look at the smart phones...

Blu-rays sells more often than DVD's.

All Camcorders record in 1080p some even record in 4k

IMAX has expanded in the past 10yrs

Netflix shows are in 1080p

Youtube gets trashed because of the compression tech they use because the resolutions sucks..

GoPro records in 1080p

We live in a Full HD world...that's why there's Lasik eye surgery...

[Brazz]

I can see the difference clearly, Ps4 costs $ 399 and gives me 1080p the other costs $ 499 and gives me 900P!
can not see the difference of 180p, ok, no problem ... but if you can not see the $100 difference then we have a serious problem ...

[brich233]

the difference is really 633600p's

[aerisbueller]

That's a silly thing to say. Do you think XBox games will have better gameplay every time the resolution isn't up to snuff? Are you saying every 1080p or 60fps game is going to have bad gameplay. Mechanics have nothing to do with the price/performance of the XBox One. It's a red herring.

[quenomamen]

Lets argue about the $100 difference that I can see.

[Kayant]

Oh man... I don't know what to say. Esram issues? Has to been the game doesn't seem to be a graphical show piece in anyway. Am going to guess dev had issues using Esram IMO.

[iceman06]

This really reminds me of the PS3 launch. Remember when only Sony internal studios knew how to use the foreign architecture? It only got better when they made the decision that they had to start sharing information. The issue here is that MS has a limited amount of studios and, thus far, they don't seem to be making any progress. Initially, optimization was just much faster and easier on PS4. Until that changes, if it changes, I expect that this will be the multiplat compromise. Much like that on the PS3.

[UsUcK]

No surprise then. Glad i moved to ps4.

[RiPPn]

Intelligent bubble for making an intelligent purchase.

[Zombro]

What is ps4 a country now

[SixtyNine]

hehehe

[kingduqc]

if you wanted preaty you should of moved to pc... just saying.

[bloodybutcher]

Whai, aperently it dosent haf awtokorekt

[r2oB]

Maybe he wanted pretty AND less expensive.

[slazer101]

Okay okay we get it, one has a different resolution than the other. Can we please stop with these type of articles? It is getting old now. Thanks

[nyobzoo]

didn't stop last console generation, not going to stop this console generation

[Sethry101]

Also people who own both console want to know these things, if one version is better then the other, you're going to want to by that one.

[ZeroX9876]

got to keep potential buyers informed. getting the better performing hardware for your money is really important to some users who can't afford a PC and want the most out of their console of choice.

Not a problem for me, both PC/PS4 and the Wii U is a possible buy after mario kart releases and E3 2014 :)

[blackpanther25]

No lie Mario kart 8 got me wanting a Wii U......never thought I would say that

[Bathyj]

It's about letting people know and stay informed. It's like, ok battlefield looks better on Ps4, but I want to know about COD too. Should we not talk about it because the subject as been talked about before but for a different game?

I guess on the information super highway, you'd be a speed bump.

Omg, you're ESRAM

[Sci0n]

greatest comment mankind has ever witnessed on the internet. Bubbles for you sir.

[MeLoveRamen]

Actually its not getting old, these two consoles just came out 4 months ago and people wanna see which console has more bang for the buck, I am wondering if it was the other way around and the ps4 was the one that was weaker if these kinda articles would be getting old, my guess is it wouldn't.

[thoract]

Even if the PS4 was weaker I would still buy it. Sony has a better track record in terms of games I like to play.

MS on the other hand uses there money to buy 3rd party games and call it there own, for a while.

[Godz Kastro]

I'm sorry... This is just proof ms launched this system earlier than they really wanted to. Trials? Really? Smh...

[kingdom18]

If they didn't want to launch this early, maybe they shouldn't have, yes the PS4 would have a considerable advantage but then maybe they wouldn't have this horrible stigma attached to the XBO if they didn't have to rush some things, and maybe the whole DRM debacle could have been avoided, or at least gone more smoothly.

[MasterCornholio]

This is just further proof that Microsoft didn't target the highest graphical capabilities in their console.

Which is something they said.

:I

[SoulWarrior]

*waits for georgenoob to comment*

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

And once again, no one will be able to tell the difference.

[04STIBluByU]

Oh really test me...I have 20/15 vision and have a 1080p Epson 8100 Home cinema projector with 7.1 surround. Please tell me I cant see a difference when My screen is 100".

[Flutterby]

Yes of course people can't see the difference that's why companies stopped increasing rez on TVs after they hit 720p ........I right they didn't huh , maybe that's because anyone with normally working eyes can see the difference. I can definitely see the difference when I play bf4 on my pc in 1080p and play it later on my ps4 at 900p , the difference is pretty big. The only people that seem to be pixelblind are xbone fanboys, pc people such as myself can see it that's why I spend thousands on my pc every couple years.

[corvusmd]

Meh, this topic is old...just like all the other times there won't be a noticeable difference. After seeing more advanced games run better...it just appears that this is a developer issue, not an XB1 issue.

You need a tv bigger than 55in from less than four feet away to even tell the difference between 1080p and 720p...or else the naked eye can't even notice it...it's a fact. If you need to play it in slow motion on a PC screen less than a foot from your face to even NOTICE any difference...it's not a big enough deal. Not to mention the best game so far this gen is 792p....case closed

[psforward]

Most likely a hardware and developer issue. Took too much effort to get 1080p out of the X1 hardware. Also, you need an eye exam if you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at a distance greater than 5 feet on a 55in screen...fact.

[quenomamen]

We dont make fun of people with eye or any other type of disabilities here on N4G
Thank you.

[GarrusVakarian]

"You need a tv bigger than 55in from less than four feet away to even tell the difference between 1080p and 720p...or else the naked eye can't even notice it...it's a fact."

No it's not a fact! The very fact that i DO notice a difference automatically voids your statement calling it fact, and my TV is smaller than that and i sit further away. How can you just say it's a fact when it completely depends on the individuals ability? That first sentence sounds like something straight out of a 'resolution vs distance' article off the internet. Not from someone who has actually played at those resolutions.

You are saying the naked eye can't tell the difference between over a million pixels difference? I'm sorry, but ive never disagreed with anyone on here as much as i disagree with everything you just said.

If you have a native 1080p TV, then 1080p games and movies will look blatantly better than 900p and 720p. Play Infamous SS, or Tomb Raider, then play DR3 or BF4 on the X1 and honestly tell me if you don't see a difference.

Fair enough if *you* can't tell the difference, but please don't on here and say it's fact that you need a certain size TV and need to be a certain distance away, because it's complete bull.

[T2]

Anyone who downloads movies knows you can easily tell the difference, 720p for movies you don't really care about, 1080p for the ones you do... The difference is huge and for 900p not huge but noticeable.. Anyway my tv doesn't even support 900p

[MasterCornholio]

@Joe

Thats why I download my movies in 1080P because it looks much sharper than 720P.

[Bathyj]

The difference is Ps4 is doing 1080p 60 fps (apparently what people want this gen), and Xbone isn't, and people are in fact noticing. Now, don't you have a goalposts to move?

[Flutterby]

Not a chance , they actually misplaced the goalposts when they all kept moving them at the start of the year , no one is sure who moved them last and where they went. Could have been morepoweroftroll or jokes on you or anyone of them.

[MeLoveRamen]

lol don't tell me you got that information at ign from those 2 xbox fanyboys that are supposed to be gaming journalist? BTW sorry buddy titanfall isn't even remotely close to being the best game so far, even when comparing just first person shooters even when battlefield 4 is broken its still a better multiplayer experience then titanfail.

[DigitalRaptor]

The "Best game so far this gen" failed to live up to its manufactured hype and its genuine flaws not acknowledged like any other game on any other console would have done.

Yet again, as you have been doing for the past 9 months, you're treating opinion and your own visual deficiency as fact.

Here's an eye opener for you: http://i.minus.com/iW998p1o...

[zerog]

I sit 3 feet from a 55" tv cause that's how I roll and I can tell the difference. Also to say that titan fall is the best game so far is a matter of opinion, its just like cod, for every person it impressed there's 1-2 it didn't and another 5 who don't care.

[Why o why]

Really paining ya murder dee... I feel for ya as a long standing n4g vet but not once have I EVER witnessed you talking all that stuff last gen.... this must be tough for you and your crew to have to reinvent yourselves and alter your beliefs to counter the situation.....

Truth be told, games like this shouldn't need any secret source. Something more serious, maybe but a game like this...damn

[OrangePowerz]

Isn't that "fact" from over 5 years ago when people looked for reasons not to buy a full HD TV because apparently nobody can tell the difference so it was much better to save money and get a HD Ready TV with 720p and 1080i?

I have only a 40 inch TV and I can notice when I play something on PC or consoles in 1080p or below.

Since the "best game this gen" is 792p I presume you would also say that Respawn are not competent developers?

As for Titanfall being the best game this gen so far, that purely depends on the taste of people. For me it's a overhyped CoD with Mechs, no physics, no destruction, no jumping for mechs and limited space to move around and stupid useless AI since I play in a competitive way. I respect that for other's it's great and that's fine by me. But I think calling it the best game this gen so far is a bit over the top.

Anyway in case there will ever be a game that runs better with higher res on the X1 compared to PS4 I'm sure you will be one of the first to comment on how big of a difference it is.

Also if one console has a higher price and plays games worse it is kind of a big deal even if you can't see the difference.

[SasukeX16]

Look up bf4 resolution difference gif and you can easily see the difference

[DanielGearSolid]

Wth?

Trials?

This game isnt that demanding on a technical level

thats a shame

[randomass171]

Sounds like it's a case of poor optimization unfortunately. Xbox One games seem to be optimized less because PS4 is what gets development priority. Since this game is not that demanding, this is a development issue more than a power issue.

@joecanada

Hopefully the upgrades they want to provide Xbox One with the cloud and Direct X12. Wii U saw a lot of poor optimization as well and that created a lot of misconceptions. I'm really glad PS4 is recognized as the strongest console, but I don't feel Xbox One should unjustly misconceived as a weak console at the same time.

[T2]

If this is true that should be even more alarming for ms. It shows devs don't care as much about x1

[candy_mafia]

There's an aweful lot of wishing and hoping with Xbox One? MS released $500 worth of hope. People need to accept with X1, it is what it is. Doesn't stop my household from enjoying both.

[incendy35]

Here we go again.. :D

[Geekman]

Kel: AWWWWWW, HERE IT GOES!!!

[Bathyj]

All the more damming because in many people's minds (mine included) , this is an Xbox game just like I will always see splinter cell as an Xbox game and metal gear solid as a PlayStation one.

It's like if MS had not bought gears and it went muliplat and ran better on Ps4. You can't say that wouldn't have been a big deal, it would have been huge. Makes you wonder if if not letting it be seen on another platform had any bearing over the acquisition.

[AnEwGuY]

An XBOX game?? I think you mean PC. This franchise was always PC first, XBOX later.

[Allsystemgamer]

Where's georgeonoob?

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

he knows better. not to come here. or hes in denial..

[vega275]

Resolution won't stop me from enjoying this game or any other on my xbox one. Enjoying every minute of it since I bought it

Edit: to the people disagreeing. Sorry it bothers you so much that someone is actually enjoying the system and not letting silly things like resolution bother them.

[Bathyj]

I'm only in here disagreeing with the people that are pretending there IS NO difference. There is.

I won't disagree with you saying the difference shouldn't effect your enjoyment. It won't.

The game looks hella fun on any console. That should be the main issue.

[jetlian]

Where is the video? I want to see the difference.

[gameslayer2411]

I Agree with your statement, Enjoy your console. I for one enjoy all of them, (Working in the Oil Industry will help with That) I play most games on my ps4, cause thats what my family has, I play exclusives on xbox one. And I play games that are moddable on my pc. Personally I like my ps4 over my xbox one but that is my preference. Just enjoy your console or Consoles. Everyone else be damned.

[prettyboijay20]

lol X-box needs to step is game up lol TeamSony

[jimbobbeers]

Some of you haven't got a clue. Telling MS they need to sort it out, this is pure development side. So Wolfenstein can hit 60fps/1080p on both, yet you think it's not capable of running trials.

Don't make me laugh. Clueless.

[Jumper09]

IDTech5 is not using any new graphics tech. Its an old Engine. Wolfenstein runs at 60fps on every console.
PS3/360 version will have a dynamic resolution, like RAGE had.

And until the final game is out, i dont believe developer claims ;)

[jimbobbeers]

Another clueless answer. You do realise people who can play Crysis 3 on high (on PC) are struggling to get a good res from the new Trials game right? Oh you didn't? I thought not.

[Hicken]

Clueless? Yes, you are.

Just like those that try praising Forza and ignoring how many corners were cut, you're taking one game and assuming its performance numbers should be the same because of the engine they share.

Clueless, indeed.

[jimbobbeers]

Why are we talking Forza? Oh that's right, you're trying to deflect my original post, nice try. Clueless... Still.

[saint_seya]

So jimbo.. you are a pc player for what you said, and yet trying to argue that x-box one and ps4 should display same graphics with the difference in hardware, oh u didnt know, i thought so..

[jimbobbeers]

It'd help if you knew how to speak English.

[saint_seya]

It would help if you knew something about computers, graphics or anything at all #bad in english>>>lack of common sense

I take my bad english anyday.

[Hicken]

It's funny that you say someone else is trying to deflect, since your responses to everyone here are nothing more than that.

Wolfenstein is not Trials. Outside of the engine, there's nothing the two have in common. Why try to use one as an example of what's wrong with the other?

Ahh, because it suits your argument. That's also why you ignore the huge number of other games that share such a disparity, and instead treat this as a developer problem.

Seeing that you don't actually address of what Jumper or I say about the engine- instead doing deflection of your own- and that you disregard seya's assertion that, after you brought up PC, you should be well aware of the difference in hardware and how that affects the performance of software... With all that in mind, the clueless one definitely seems to be you.

Though I think it's willful ignorance on your part, since all this stuff is pretty damn obvious.

[angelsx]

This is a joke for xbone

[Chris12]

No, it's a joke for the developer.

[Bonkerz]

I love how some of you guys think that the X1 is not capable of running at 1080P. You do realize that BF4 runs at 900P on the PS4 right? Also just like jimbo said these are dev things, games like wolfenstein can run 1080/60FPS on X1 trust me this game should be able to as well.

[Jumper09]

You should start to get some background infos about Wolfenstein and IDTech5.

Because old IDTech5 can run at 1080p, doesnt mean that newer engines with more shit going on, can too.

[MeLoveRamen]

Considering how every other game on the ps4 is 1080p and BF4 is still broken after 5 months of release is pretty safe to say that the developers didn't have enough time with the game. Since you like pointing things out, the only games that are 1080p on the xbone is sports games and a downgraded racing game. The xbone couldn't get a 2D fighter at 1080p and now it can't get a 2D motorcycle game to run at 1080p along with basically its whole library of games.

[jaixvx]

bf4 on xbone is 720p.

[Skate-AK]

Interesting. I remember reading they were rumored to both be at 720p.

[No_Limit]

That was an April Fools joke posted on April 1st. LOL

http://n4g.com/news/1485241...

[Skate-AK]

Oh haha. Well looks like I got got.

[chaosx]

Doesn't seem Ubisoft can make any game run at 1080P on the xbox one…… even a game like trials…... maybe they don't want too….they seem to favour sony with exclusives.. maybe they are in to win with Sony….. just saying….

[No_Limit]

D@mn, almost went a full day without the resolution gate to pop up and lord and behold, Trials, of all game, shows up.

Lord, this will not end well. :(

[Mankey]

Oh dear.

[koliosis]

I'm starting to lose faith in Xbox One a game like this shouldn't have a problem doing 1080p!!!

[randomass171]

But that's not really the console's fault. A game like Trials is not really that taxing. I think the Xbox One may be more difficult to develop for than PS4. Kind of like how PS3 ports of 360 games sometimes did not look as good.

[Jumper09]

Weaker GPU + worse Memory Setup. And people still get shocked about inferior multiplatform games.

Will be fun when 2015 games arrive :) Dat gap

[patrik23]

at least it's not 720p

[Geekman]

700 degrees? Man, this is why I was gone for a week.

[AceBlazer13]

lol,certainly wasn't expecting trials to be the next 1

[Legacy212]

Ubisoft is in bed with sony. Murdered soul suspect, wolfenstein, need for speed, forza, all can run 1080p on xbox your going to tell me this gamr doesnt? Kinect sports, max curse of brother hood, spartan assault, rayman legends all run 1080p. Its obvious ubisoft and sony have something just like how they bring all exclusive content to sony. Sorry ubisoft I cant support your gamds until you get your ass in gear. Watch dogs cancelled. Keeping away from your company.

[Flutterby]

What's your excuse for every other game that is 1080p on ps4 and less on xbone ?

[kenshiro100]

Lmao, really?

You can't be serious, right?

[mysteryraz11]

theres only 1 game below 1080p on the ps4 and theres several freaking 720p games on the xbox one, it makes no sense for it cost more it should be cheaper

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

Daaaaaaaamn ! Oh I'm so glad I'm getting my Xbox One for only 350 with 2 controllers and DR3 next month. Its not worth 500 dollars.

[Blackleg-sanji]

dude where put me down

[k3rn3ll]

Ohhhh no the humanity!!! 900p how ever will we cope? Bad optimization is all I see here. No reason why one can't power this game to 1080p. But im sure some people will get a hard on from this news and be talking bout it for 2 weeks cuz it makes them feel better about their clbsole decision. All that matters is the game people

[Platinum_k]

Consoles (hardware) have their limits.

Let's say they do manage 1080p, they will probably have to compromise other things in order to do that.

You cannot play PS4 games with PS1 hardware :p

[u got owned]

I dont mind 900p as long as the IQ is solid

[jhoward585]

Can't run trial at 1080p? an indie game? so soon?

Seems to me that performance Gap has gotten even bigger.

On the real though, I didn't expect this to happen on the 1st wave of games. Maybe like the 3rd or the 4th wave of games, but not the 1st.

This year E3 is going to be interesting. can't wait.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Just wait 2 years, for DX12 and da Clowd.

/s

(;

[GearSkiN]

I got both so I get it on the better version.

[Platinum_k]

BOTH???
...I'm not even mad.

That's amazingly convenient

[GearSkiN]

yup! i just like exclusive i love PS but im more toward the xbox, just coz ive had it for a long time. but i did have a ps3 too now ps4 its a wonderful console! glad they got the new controller down path!

[BX81]

Lazy devs

[BX81]

16 disagrees but the wolfenstien devs said the game is running at 1080p and 60fps on both the ps4/xb1. So yeah lazy devs.

[mixelon]

Why do we take devs words for it? I doubt Wolfenstein is 60fps locked like Trials is. It'll be "up to 60fps" and drop when lots is going on.

trials absolutely needs a 100% consistent frame rate. It makes sense they'd have to cut something to make it happen. When 4 player's bikes are on screen it can get super hectic.

[Platinum_k]

...aaaaand another bites the dust

Having neither Xbone and PS4, but planning on getting both soon, I'de conclude PS4 has their hardware "future-proof" for unparalleled gaming, while the Xbone has (after 2min of thinking) the contemporary tech for gaming convenience.

[Example] "Xbox On. [Go to] Video 1 input (displays PS4 output)"

***Starts gaming on the PS4***

[patrik23]

so once xbox exclusive - trials - comes to playstation and now it looks better than on xbox one?

[GearSkiN]

to be honest its really hard to tell about these 1080p and 900p... trust me ive tried it on both console.

[Flamingweazel]

LMAo this is an indie game.....xbots still waiting for Secret sauce...

[ThatIrishGamer]

Dat Cloud Processing Tho.

[The_devils_chum]

Hey! wasn't trails fusion a xbox exclusive? Boy times are a changing, first that and now the next totally revamped COD will be made for the ps4. I do however think if DX-12 was fully in use this may not have happened, and they could have clawd back enough resources to achieve that 1080p.

[Billybobjoey]

Trials Fusion was never an xbox exclusive...it was made for now current gen, and not last gen, and thats all the exclusivity I heard about(The Wii U doesnt have it, but well, y'know)

[hello12]

Sorry these games have all been in development before launch so this doesn't surprise me.

I expect Watchdogs to be the same 1080p on PS4 900p on xb1.

If games have better resolution on PS4 by the end of 2015 early 2016 PS4 can have the win.

Its way too early to say the x box 1 is weak.

[Brazz]

The thing here isn't "x-1 is weak", no... the thing here is, Ps4 is more powerfull and less expensive, That is the big deal here...

[kenshiro100]

If it can't even run a game that hasn't even been hyped at 1080p, then yes...it's not particularly strong.

[Mkai28]

You mean to tell me this game is so advanced that it looks better then forza 5 and ryse? So when we see this game, it should look better then ryse right because it has to run in 900p.. This gen, the PS4 had become the easier platform, and now the Xbox 1 is getting the short end of the stick.. Perhaps until DX12 comes into play, third party games will continue to look best on PS4..

[mixelon]

The devs explained at length that they need 60fps locked. No framerate drops. That's why they had to cut corners to get there on the X1. The fps absolutely can not drop in gameplay.

Most other games drop fps all over the place. Trials is surprisingly hectic, especially in multiplayer.

[dale_denton]

you get what you paid for

[hello12]

Forza was downgraded to get 1080p 60 frames? Ok another Sony myth on N4G Not as goodlooking as what was shown at E3 2013 fine, but even games shown at E3 coming to the PS4 console don't look that good now.

X box 1 has not got new drivers it got new SDK's they are development tools for gaming development on xb1. They came out in March 2014. Directx11 is still the graphic driver been used for the xb1 till directx12 arrives.

Trail fusion was a game in development long before launch.

Microsoft only told gaming developers last week at their build conferencem, how to use the ESRAM, and reach 1080p and 60 frames.

Sony fans around here need to wake up to the fact unified memory inside the PS4 is much easier to use for game development, and its the reason mutiplat games are coming out looking better on PS4 at launch.

In one year i bet i will be proven right and most games on xb1 will be hitting the 1080p and 60 frames. Care take any bets with me now?

bRAZZ@ running out out of bubbles doesn't help me communicate.

My opinion anyways.
Do you view power of a console by just looking at hardware?

Do you realise a GPU and CPU would just sit there doing nothing if software didn't exist.

Game engines Crytek Unreal engine 4 this is all software.

Physic been done on the cloud has been shown to work, by Microsoft. Sony fans can deny it, be delusional. but you'll see the x box 1 doing stuff only the PS4 can dream off.

The GPU in the x box 1 if Microsoft gets it to work essentially becomes powerful because the most tasking graphics are been done on the cloud.

Cloud is real. I'm sick of Sony fans living in this delusional bubble on N4G.

X box 1 has dedicated servers, all free to developers, want them. If the PS4 is so powerful why no dedicated servers for you PS4 fans.

Microsoft has delivered on their promises for the cloud and i can't wait till Microsoft gets it done.

I could go on explaining why x box 1 is a superior console, but you guys are too focused on near and and now and don't see what Microsoft is planning.

[Majin-vegeta]

China and Berlin called they want their walls back.

OT: Lol what a load of dribble.Keep dreaming.

[Destiny1080]

if cloud gaming is so amazing im sure sony will Russell up some thunder clouds

mantle gets released and ms are all about dx12 and how wonderful it is, I wonder why, the creator of the original xbox said he wouldn't even make a game with dx12 because he couldn't port it to the mac and if steam boxes become more popular how knows what direction pc gaming will take

Valve: OpenGL is faster than DirectX — even on Windows

Windows 7/OpenGL/L4D2 clocks in at 303.4 fps — compared to Windows 7/DirectX/L4D2 at 270.6 fps. In short: OpenGL is faster than DirectX

[DarXyde]

@KNWS

"Do you view power of a console by just looking at hardware?

Do you realise a GPU and CPU would just sit there doing nothing if software didn't exist. "

Your words, no one else's. I sure hope these developers take advantage of that Cloud. If not, it's no better than what you've said about hardware specs.

It easily works both ways, mate.

[DoesUs]

I'll take that with you for $20,000 or however much you care to wager. And a word of warning, I've been in this industry for 20 years and work with both machines.

Choose wisely. I eagerly await your reply.

[imt558]

KNWS, get a job.

You live in illusion in Xbone world!

[OllieBoy]

Man am I glad I own a PS4.

[Platinum_k]

good news just keeps comin' eh? =)

[Max-Zorin]

Good Lord. All this drama over graphics. My generation suck.

[Destiny1080]

ps4 fans can also play in 900p if they squint their eyes

[redevildick]

u guys r stubborn! OK, if with DX11 X1 is closing d gap nw imagine when DX12 comes out? And did u 4get cloud computer? Let's chat about tht childish fanboys...

[lemoncake]

If you own both consoles than this might be one factor to consider which version to buy, if not its really not as big an issue as some want to believe.

[ghostface9]

Yeah this is a developer problem not the console if wolfenstein can run native 1080p for a full fledged AAA game than so should this.

[mixelon]

Does Wolfenstein run at LOCKED 60fps? No dropped frames in any circumstances? On the X1?

I don't believe that for a second.

[oldskoolgamer702]

I will take inferior resolution instead of using that cheap controller that only stays charged for two hours fyi I have both and I love my xbone

[Majin-vegeta]

Yea if you had both you would know it lasts longer than two hours.

Lying is bad mmkayy C:

[oldskoolgamer702]

I was being sarcastic. It last like 5 which is pathetic and they did it on purpose so we would buy two . Also I can't stream on my account because they made it a frckin sub account

[tgunzz]

Imho, the biggest initial win for ps4 is not it's max power, it's the return of the ease of use. The fact that the xb1 is not as powerful as ps4 is not the problem, it's complicated set up is the ultimate problem. Depending on the dev/compatibility of the code used, it will take more process/optimization/time to complete, but with the same launch date (for now, the res differences will happen from time to time. This problem will go away,and then they can begin to tap into the power of xb1 (like what they are doing for ps4). And yes ps4 will still be more powerful (done), This didn't bother me when I owned the ps3,and xb360, and it doesn't both me now with my xb1, and ps4. Since they have taken turns with ambitious designs that held back there initial charge into the fight (exact opposite), I don't think either camp will start this way next gen.... Pretty soon fan boys will get back to the correct war for this gen, upcoming exclusives......

[OC_MurphysLaw]

While this wont stop me from enjoying the game on my xbox one it most certainly is a sticking point that MS has got to get ironed out. I mean it really isn't a big deal on a case by case basis but when its one title after the next it becomes a nagging itch that just bugs.

That said at least the rumors of 720p that were out are gone for both systems.

[DarXyde]

Though I'm a pro-PlayStation gamer, I see a lot of merit in each console. That said, I actually have a very hard time believing that this game is pushing the XBOX One to the limit. Of course it's going to be harder to optimize through a console with a bottleneck. I'm positive we'll be seeing games that eclipse this on XBOX One in the future, most likely in the form of exclusives first.

Make no mistake, the XBOX One is also simply weaker than PS4. When perfectionist developers like Kojima can't get 1080p/60fps out of a console, then it's obviously a power issue. But then again, it's only an "issue" because it's more expensive.

[ShAkKa]

This is an odd one.

[Ashby_JC]

So should I not buy the third iteration of this game that I loved. Sell my XBOX one and buy a Ps4 for a few more pixels??

OR...should gamers who own either console get the game and enjoy the HE!! out of it??

I dont know but when I was playing Trials on the 360 the game looked and played great. And this new one will look great as well.

PS4 owners are in for a treat its a very addictive and FUN game!!!

[artsaber]

Think about this for a moment. Has/what if Microsoft found a way to make you need the cloud for any Xbox One game in the future run 1080p 60fps. Microsoft will have successfully found a way to put optimal resolutions behind a paywall too.

I can hear the slogan already, "Games look better and play better on Xbox Live", it will be touted as a feature, lol.

[_FantasmA_]

HA Ha!

[jhoward585]

I wonder does fast pace games are the main reason the x1 can run at 1080p. 32 MB ESRAM need to be constantly filled as graphics/texture moves forward in virtual space.

By doubling the size of the from 32 MB ESRAM to 64 probably could've of solve x1's res issues b/c technically more ESRAM should take longer to fill up the ESRAM with data.

Slow pace games should take longer to filled up the ESRAM allowing for things to process much smoother.

Personally, I don't think dx12 can do much of anything for the x1 hardware unless MS find a way to slow down the process -filling up the ESRAM.

[hobbitooo]

although it may not matter much to the casual gamer just picking up a game at the shop. but to all hardcore gamers, we know which console is gonna win this gen.

xbox1 should be called xbox 450... coz its only a small improvement over 360... playstation dont need any titanfall shit.

[younglj01]

wow...

[Carlito]

I can't believe we live in a society where Americans are proud that a foreign council is leading

[razrye]

Your point is? America and Japan are both foreign to me.

[gamer1980]

i agree,wouldnt happen in japan,,,

[Carlito]

Console lol

[cyclindk]

Cloud
DX12
ESRAM
Sauce
Rezgate = doesn't matter

I kid I kid

But yeah, just say, "this is our version, have fun or don't."

[larrysdirtydrawss]

truefan1 + 5h ago
This is pathetic, I refuse to believe this game can't run at 1080p on XB1. I think this is the new marketing strategy, making sure a game runs at a higher resolution on ps4 and get the ps4 fans on your side, as well as a ton of publicity. Either this or these devs aren't even trying.

#1.1.5

you must have heard the hardware specs between the 2 systems by now...not to mention sony also has better tools

[t-hall785]

Resolutiongate rears its ugly, hideous head again...

[GamersHeaven]

I'm surprised its not 720p 900p seems to be the sweet spot for the bone.

[ironmonkey]

geez cant they ever get it right?

[Ank666]

Lol?!

Cloud?!

ESram?!

DirectX?!

Magic?!

Trial Fusion?!

Seriously?!

[Emme]

Wii U does Zelda in 1080p :)

[Clown_Syndr0me]

It still looks really good though, lots of videos on upload already!

[CEOSteveBallmer]

These Xbox fans really does surprise me. First it was the cloud making the bone powerful and they believed it. then the Esram more efficient than GDDR5 which is rubbish. then DX12. whats next, the bones CPU is also another GPU?? you guys always clinging to something to justify your console of choice. sorry but weak hardware is weak hardware. thats like saying through programming an N64 will have the same graphics as PS2.

[Azzanation]

Way to talk early. DX12 isn't out yet, This game doesn't use the Cloud and ESram is struggling to be used without DX12. Not that I care because ill be playing this game in 4k on PC.

[Father__Merrin]

Merrin believes xbox1 will struggle all this gen. 7790 v 7970, ddr3 v ddr5

the gap will never close...

[SoulSercher620]

And this is something that will happen for the rest of the generation. This is why the PS4 is a true gamer's console.

[Yurtigo]

HA HA HA

[Azzanation]

These articles really need to stop coming out. Who the hell cares honestly, 900p or 1080p? lol you wont tell the difference unless you pause the game and face plant yourself to the screen. 4k is something worth talking about not this. Good job on trying to get cheap hits off the PS fanboys.

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

4k on consoles? Maybe in menus. 900p in this game is so low , my integrated intel gpu can push more at 1080p.

[Rhythmattic]

1600 x 900 = 1440000 Pixels

1920 x 1080 = 2073600 Pixels...

Thats 44 % more Pixels.

Maybe you can't see the difference, but in this day and age most people have a 50" plus Full HD screen in their lounge room, people with good vision will see the difference.

Not that it should worry you though, 4 K makes it all redundant.

BTW, I do want to add I dont understand why its not 1080 on the One.... Im guessing in real terms DX12 will help utilise the ESRAM through its API much easier.... Still, bad design choices by MS, and the proof is it shouldn't be this far behind..

[keabrown79]

" but in this day and age most people have a 50" plus Full HD screen in their lounge room"

This is an awfully big assumption, just saying.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

I have a 50 inch and I honestly see no difference between my X1 and PS4.. But ofcourse I've never done a side by side.

[Rhythmattic]

keabrown79
Yeh I guess it is making a bit of a generalisation, but here in OZ they are so cheap now, most my friends and family do have 50 + sizes.... Except for my Parents...only a 42", the poor buggers. lol

[MasterCornholio]

With this game I was expecting 1080P on both systems. I'm surprised that the Xbox One can't even handle an Indie game like this at 1080P. As long as the framerate is good I dont think it will matter much for Xbox One owners because they didn't buy the console to play games in 1080P, they bought it for updates, Kinect and Xbox exclusives.

[Mr_Luke]

And once again.... predictable.

[Kennytaur]

It's a shame, and I wonder what's going on at Xbox headquarters. But at least 900p is a good resolution, and most will probably not even notice unless they're looking for it.

[thexmanone]

Feed the Sony ponies, They are hungry with this one.

[razrye]

If anything I don't need feeding. Well stuffed because of ms.

[RedSoakedSponge]

i kinda understand when a game is very graphics intensive, but Trials?! seriously?! Sure it looks nice but it doesnt look like it takes much to run it. In my opinion, this is totally unacceptable. I guess this has made the choice for me on which version ill be buying. Thanks Microsoft for making it easy for me.

[Tedakin]

Okay they can get THE CREW 1080p on X1 but not this? I think some devs just aren't putting the extra work in.

[noctis_lumia]

ps4 nuff said

[uptotheroof]

People seem to have short memory. For this cycle I purchased a PS4, the last cycle I had both the ps3 and the xbox 360. Because of this, i would read reviews for both systems before purchasing a title. In so many cases the "impartial", wink wink, reviewers would always go out the there way to say the 360 was the definitive version due to better graphics or a slightly better resolution. Mid cycle the ps3 had a number of games at that odd 920 resolution. Now all of a sudden resolution doesn't matter? My ass. the previous cycle reviewers and fans were all over it, now that the tables are turned people are trying to minimize a hardware disparity. Enjoy your humble pie.

[cruzngta]

With the crew, wolfenstein and sniper 3 all confirmed newer yet to be released games pushing 1080p on XB1 it really just shows the capabilities of a dev in terms of utilizing the hardware. That is all this is people. The new sdks are out but every dev is different and some are more capable than others. PS4 is real powerful and easy to use - it helps that it has the ram that they went with as well. XB1 is an excellent machine and we have many good games to justify our purchase. I wouldnt be to worried about this being 900p - as I said I really feel its a dev issue. Some are just able to get better results than others. This is the games industry and every generation has had these issues. Last gen the PS3 got alot of gimped ports due to its complex nature but it was still an amazing machine with some of the best exclusives I have EVER played. It is way to early to be worried about all of this. In time the XB1 will become more familiar to all devs and 1080p will be the norm unless it is really pushing the hardware to the point where even the PS4 has issues. Than the PS4 will propably have a resolution edge. Cant wait for the dx12 update to see if that will really factor in with all of this. Till then I am enjoying Infamous in 1080p and Forza 5 in 1080p - both machines are beasts in their own right. Just enjoy what they have to offer. Peace gamers.

[Goku781]

Embarrassing

[gamer7804]

your response time on your monitor matters more than 900p unconverted to 1080p.

[TitanUp]

an odd title to have a resolution difference.

[pakua]

You guys are pathetic. This is top news? Must be an extremely slow week for gaming. Quit your fanboy crap and talk about games if you're going to put down another console.

[ebreda]

Trials is a game intrinsically connected to the Xbox.

Even though I have all 3 current Gen systems, I'll get it for the ONE. Muscle memory is a thing and for those extreme tracks I need all the help I can get, and that means playing with the X One controller, which is similar to the 360 controller.

Great game!

[SilentGuard]

Maybe the included Kinect with every Xbone provides for something to make up for the lower resolution. Isn't that MS's theory, to allow developers to create a nex-gen and more immersive experience using Kinect and include it with every console to make it happen? Isn't that supposed to be the Xbone's trump card over PS4? I hope not, guess we'll have to tolerate 8-10 more years of articles revealing this.

[RoyceWhitaker]

Cool article!!

[gamer1980]

best to judge next year

[Illusive_Man]

How is Ryse, one of the best looking games of this gen, 900p and Trials a far less demanding game, not 1080p?

[player002]

Devs not using Esram

[KinjoTakemura]

There's not that much esram for the developers to work with.

[KinjoTakemura]

It's a simple matter of gpu. In order for a game have amazing graphics and visuals run on the xbox one, you have to lower the resolution and frames per second. There is absolutely no doubt that a game like infamous second son will never run at 1080p on xbox one unless the visuals and lighting are downgraded. In summary, here's the xbox performance equation:

a game with high performance graphics = less resolution or lower frame rates or both

higher resolution high frame rates = lower graphics performance

If you don't think it's true? Check the xbox oe line up for resolutions and frame rates and see for your self.

[player002]

since you seem to know what ur talking about I believe ur right @ the moment more esram would have been better.I do think that once DX12 rolls software will take care of most the problems also the cloud compute will help tremendously.@ msbuild 2014 they told devs how to obtain 1080p by using Esram and how you can put some in Esram others in DDr3 This will help too.The stuff coming out on the holidays will rectify the situation.Yes Infamous looks good but they sacrificed quite a bit of AI to get there city is not that populated and they all say same things and lack detail also no reflections in glass or mirrors not talking about shadows.Ryse although @ 900p is still the most visual game on next gen and is technically superior with a form of Ray tracing and a host of other high level techniques.It all comes down to the devs Nba 2k14 is 1080p on both fifa too and looks better on Xb1 upcoming Sniper is on par same as the crew so it can be done unfortunately for some devs they must work harder @ the moment to acheive this easy for some harder learning curve for others .What other system including PC uses Esram?yup learning curve also esram is for tiled resources coming later .Once DX12 comes out devs will have it much easier not needing to program everything and having a much more efficient system with all cores working equally..your thoughts?

[corroios]

For me the question is WHY MICROSOFT, why did you build such a weak machine, with such a weak GPU, CPU, and last gen memory setup? Why? What were they thinking? They have the Money, the resources, the people, so why?

You dont need to be tech genious to see that the spec are weak.

I mean the first meeting to build the machine should be like: the XBOX ONE MUST do 1080/60 easy and now build a machine to reach that Goal.

When they reached that goal, the next should be: the machine need to have space to evolve. Ok, you get 1080/60 but we need room to put more effects, more player more everything...

Xbox one doesnt cost 199, 250 or 300...

[esemce]

True if were priced similar to the Wii U then you could almost forgive it but it has to last another 5-8 years so one would think It would be slightly future proof.

But no like Nintendo, Microsoft penny pinched to the max, I loved Halo and Gears but I can wait as I think the Xbone needs a massive price cut to interest me just like the Wii U.

I will survive with my PC/PS4 and old school consoles for a bit.

[KinjoTakemura]

They were trying to make an all-in-one entertainment system then changed their minds. Too late now.

[bornsinner]

a more expensive console with weak hardware...

damn kinect.

[Blacklash93]

How shocking. Is every multi-platform game going to warrant more oversaturation of these redundant articles on N4G for this entire generation?

X1 has significantly inferior specs and the games will reflect that. This isn't news anymore.

[Geoff900]

Oddly enough though The Crew is supposed to be 1080p on both systems.

Maybe Red Lynx have old Dev kits.

[Iamnemesis4880]

Fanboy stuff out the way I do not care all I care about is playing and having a good time with a great game.

[esemce]

Oh sh1t that is just pathetic for a game such as this. MS really gimp the Xbone badly. Xbone owners should not be defending Miscrosoft as they have been screwed royally, a £430 console that they are stuck with for at least 5 years cannont run a game like this at 1080/60.

I guess the next Halo and Gears will be either 1080p or 60fps but not both how weak.

I'm not falling for the DX12/Cloud hype.

[wheeler01]

Think I put something about this before, but part of it has to be down to developers to work out how to get more out of Xbox. Even after o/s takes 3ish gb of memory, it still has around 5gb for games. It has multicore cpu/gpu and as ps3/xbox 360 proved, developers can make great looking games on what is now very limited hardware. Even with bad drivers, surely a game like Trials Fusion can be made to run at 1080p!!

Its pretty much the bike that moves and the rest is ramps etc which are static! I know everyone says Forza 5 was downgraded, but it still looks pretty good and I am sure a whole load of cars racing around is more complicated then a sideways bike jumping over barrels etc!

I have both consoles and can't say I prefer either one more than the other. Fan boys always will find something to argue about, if only to give themselves a reason to call someone something insulting etc. Most are probably 10 years old, or just like acting it.

Anyway, that's my opinion, developers can make 1080p on ps3/xbox 360 with measly amount of ram etc but not xbox one ... something wrong somewhere!!

[StrawberryDiesel420]

Not as bad as Tomb Raider, that game generally runs 60FPS on PS4 while Xbone is 30FPS,now in my opinion that's a big deal.

[ChipsDP]

Meanwhile on PC... In all seriousness though, who cares about this resolution battle thing? I certainly don't. I would obviously like the Xbox One to reach 1080p as I'd like to buy one but I'd like one for the games, not the pixels.

[finito82]

eh i say play whatever games you think you'l like most and play the console your friends are on most.