490°

Metal Gear Solid V Producer Answers to Length Criticism: Complete in 2 hours 1st Time? "Work for Us"

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes has been criticized profusely for its length, and quite a few media outlets are scrambling to post videos of just how fast they can beat the game. Producer Ken-Ichiro Imaizumi decided to fire back today, mentioning that some talk without even having tried the game’s missions.

Read Full Story >>
dualshockers.com
Eonjay3682d ago (Edited 3682d ago )

*Hands in his two week notice* /s

AsheXII3682d ago

Just FYI, he was talking about finishing all missions under 2 hours, which no reviewer has been able to do yet.

andrew1719943681d ago

Seems like people dont enjoy the game n play the game how its supost to be played. Its a sneaking game not runn around shootin everything u see n just breezing through the game.

Same with hitman i could be on the same scene for an hour just to not be caught n figure out all the nics.

People these days dont enjoy games. Its all about time. Fuck off i say.

andrew1719943681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

As long as im big boss or one of his clone im happy haha

Kidmyst3681d ago

@andrew171994 exactly! When I hear a game takes 6 hours I plan on 12, put the difficulty on high, I explor and look around, find the hidden items and take my time andenjoy the game. Not put it on easy or just run through it. That's for finishing off the trophies after the initial play through.

Jim Hawking3681d ago

I did it it 40 minutes.

No, seriously.

Back-to-Back3681d ago

"Some people hasn’t even try all missions and said too short"

The Japanglish is strong here.

-Foxtrot3682d ago

Work for you?....well I think you'll be waaaaay over staffed mate.

Don't shrug it off though, the moral thing you can do now is include it in MGSV where it's supposed to be.

PrinceOfAllSaiyans3682d ago ShowReplies(3)
Omar913681d ago

Thank YOu!! lol Im not the only one who thinks this then

DarkBlood3681d ago

"Says the guy who all he does is post negative, immature, personal attack comments which is why your down to one bubble."

what are you saying you dont do one of the things you listed on the prince of all saiyans?

christian hour3682d ago

If the money made off ground zeroes goes towards making MGS5 a better game in the end, I don't care if there's only 5 minutes of gameplay I'm happy with that :)

People speed run games all the time, games that are insanely longer and bigger than ground zeroes is. Whats the issue here? You can beat dark souls in no time if you've played it several times and you know the tricks, its still a big long game.

I used to love going on to halo.bungie.org back in the day and seeing new speed runs of attack on the control room etc.

People will try spin a story out of anything.

xander707693682d ago

If more gamers adopt your attitude games will double in price under the veil of "the extra money is going towards improving the game." Maybe they'll throw in a FREE demo, so you'll be satisfied.

-Foxtrot3682d ago (Edited 3682d ago )

"If the money made off ground zeroes goes towards making MGS5 a better game in the end, I don't care if there's only 5 minutes of gameplay I'm happy with that :)"

Urgh....jesus christ

How can you be happy that a company TOOK the intro of a game, you know a prologue like the Tanker missions in MGS2, the days when this sort of practice DIDN'T EXIST, and charge you a lot of money for it despite it lacking in content. So you wouldn't want the entire game in one package....bloody hell why do gamers these gamers let devs know we want to be pay more for less.

That extra money they make off ripping us off....do you really think thats going to go towards MGSV development.....NOPE, it will most likely go to their bonus's in their payslips....oh and thats BEFORE they make a crap load of money off the main game.

"People will try spin a story out of anything"

<sigh>

I honestly don't see why people think this is spinning a story or exaggerating...what they have done or are doing is pretty god damn obvious.

It's just sad people seem to not give a shit because it's Konami/Kojima/MGS

I'm a big MGS fan but I don't want these practices being supported so if it means I have to wait longer to get a fully packed complete "GOTY" edition then I will.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx3682d ago

I agree fully, I'm also a huge metal gear fan playing every one released including the ones on PSP. This is just horrible business practices that should be laid to rest before other people take note. In no way this game is worth it's price tag for the price of the game. Even now I got an example from Next Gen Ps4/Xbox One that makes this completely invalid. You can buy a 5 hour Assassins Creed Freedom Cry for $15 and have alot more gameplay time. $15-20 is the perfect range for this game not no $30

Give these companies an Inch and they'll take a mile. We have to snuff out the fire before it spreads, remember the whole Xbox one controversies when it was announced at E3? Take that as an example to fix what should have never been there in the first place.

Also before I get arguments that the game is $20 on last gen consoles I'll say this, Battlefield 4, Ghosts, Titanfall, Assassins Creed IV are all the same price as their last gen counterparts on next gen.

christian hour3682d ago

I've been following the development of the fox engine since Kojima Productions first teased it. Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were registered long before the games were even unveiled. Why would they do that if it was originally part of the full game? I've always been under the impression that this was always their intention, they didn't take out the intro of the game, this was always on the cards, however before they announced the titles the rumors and speculation was that one was a handheld MGS and the other would be a console mgs. Go ahead and check forum posts and n4g stories from 2-3 years ago if you don't believe me. I'll wait right here.

If you're going to complain about ground zeroes then why dont we bring up MGS:VR Missions on PSONE while we're at it?

Have some faith in Kojima :) If you look at any of my other posts you'll see I'm completely against a lot of dishonest industry tactics and I refuse to support publishers that abuse an IP to milk it for more than its worth, so please don't get the wrong idea about me.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx3682d ago (Edited 3682d ago )

@Christian hour
Your argument of Metal Gear VR is not a good point. That game had 300 missions and was a good 20 hours game. Bad example.

MAULxx3681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

Again, I agree with -Foxtrot as he is spot on with his assessment.
GZs is a blatant rip off no matter how you want to spin it, justify it, or sugar coat it.
Now, I'm not a huge MGS fan but if I was I'd be all the more pissed.
I'm not going to bash anyone who buys it (I try to never bash gamers in any post I make). It's your freedom to buy it or not to buy it. I will ask though... Is instant gratification worth the possible consequences? I personally don't want my favorite games broken apart, sold in small chunks for insanely outlandish prices.

Joe9133681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

First I like to say yes Konami is pulling a dick move the game should have been $20 but I'm not going to cry over 10 bucks and you van say other developers will do this but I highly doubt it not many games have a following like MGS so not to many people will tey this as far as ppl thinking game prices going up because of this then you are crazy that would be suicide for the game industry I bet you Konami know that they can't pull this crap again cause they know if they do this again they are risking a big franchise.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 3681d ago
morganfell3682d ago (Edited 3682d ago )

Agreed Christian. I went through it last night and playing as is typical for me there is no way I was completing that in 2 hours. It seems as if that has become a goal, even for certain gamer's initial plays through the title. If so I think they have forgotten why they game. And speed runs as you stated exist for almost every game.

EDIT: @xander, what he was saying went completely over your head. I am sure many people would take you to task for defending Dead Space 3. What is sad is you posted about replayability here:

http://n4g.com/news/1165726...

yet fail to see that value in this game. It doesn't always require a menu option that says, "New Game Plus"

christian hour3682d ago

Morganfell your avatar has been Big Boss for as along as I can remember on this site, and I'm talking years. I'll take your opinion over everyone elses on an MGS game every time :)

I know I've said this to you in the past but seriously, keep up the awesome level-headed comments.

danthegamerfiend3681d ago

I agree with Christian who cares if they are making money off this. The gaming industry is a business and to make a business successful you need to put more money into it. They did plan this out from the beginning, they did want to do something different this generation. I mean they are introducing a open world metal gear game, not something us die hard Mgs fans are used to. I appreciate being able to get a taste of the new game and learn some cool new tricks for real deal.

trenso13681d ago

I have to say beating all the missions takes more than 2 hours of course, but beating the main mission with me taking my time and knocking out guards and not being spotted took me just under 2 hours (about 6 minutes under to be exact) so yes even with normal play it can be completed in two hours but for all the missions in game hell no.

2pacalypsenow3682d ago

people consider a speed run the length of a game. In that case Skyrim sucked cuz its only 55 minutes of gameplay on a speedrun

frostypants3682d ago (Edited 3682d ago )

Nice spin. Focusing on the main mission is not a "speed run". A "speed run" requires prior familiarity with the game. People are finishing in under an hour despite zero prior familiarity. Have you ever seen someone beat Skyrim in 55 minutes on their first play through? Please, don't defend this...

Joe9133681d ago

Exactly I have been watching ppl play this on twitch and have yet to see anyone beat the story that quick I am sure you can but not on your first run through.

Show all comments (61)
140°

The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

Read Full Story >>
metalgearinformer.com
FallenAngel1984334d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus334d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken333d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm334d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake333d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername333d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan334d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen334d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus334d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff2183333d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies333d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE333d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer334d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga333d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer333d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb334d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

Show all comments (20)
220°

Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

Read Full Story >>
metalgearinformer.com
-Foxtrot392d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman392d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola392d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad392d ago (Edited 392d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing69391d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS17392d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger391d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall392d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

Show all comments (15)
370°

Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

Read Full Story >>
thegamer.com
Mobis-New-Nest563d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade563d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

563d ago
got_dam563d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty563d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot563d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

564d ago
Chard564d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop564d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop564d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS17564d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name564d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

563d ago
Workshyskiver564d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio2048564d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor564d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

Show all comments (66)