inFAMOUS: Second Son: Lack of Dynamic Day/Night Cycle and Presence/Absence of Shadows Explained

Many have been wondering why inFAMOUS: Second Son doesn’t have a dynamic day/night cycle, that is pretty much standard for open world games, and why the demos we have seen seem to lack shadows, and during a livestream event Sucker Punch Productions Chris Zimmerman explained both elements of the game.

[Agent2009]

So, how does the day is going to turn into a night?

[Abriael]

Like he says, it just happens as the story progresses. Some parts of the story are supposed to be during the day, some during the night and so forth. When you get to that part of the story, it changes. Same for weather.

[GarrusVakarian]

So i guess it's *kinda* like GTA5, where the time of day changes when you walk into a mission marker. The devs want certain missions to be at certain times.

Little bit disappointed the cycle isn't dynamic, but it's no biggie.

I also want to know if they are going to give us the option to lock the framerate at 30fps. I've heard it runs unlocked, but the majority of the time is at or around 30fps, if that's the case then i would rather locked 30fps.

[Sevir]

If you've played an Infamous game you'd know that the the time of day or night follows the story, it was like this in Infamous, it was like this in Infamous 2.

They didn't have dynamic day and night cycles, and shadows and such were more prevalent during the day. It's nothing new for the franchise.

[Hanso]

but what when you finished the last story mission?
Will the game stay forever in day time or night time?
This worries me :/

[nveenio]

It would definitely be nice if there was a cycle after the game is beat; I can agree to that.

[thehitman]

@ Hanso most likely the story will progress in a way that changes the cycle after a mission. For example if you get knocked out at a club you wake up next morning and its day stuff like that. I am sure they made the missions fluid to the cycle of time. Stuff like this I dont mind if it adds to the feel they want during the missions. Sometimes I believe people wanting everything to be dynamic and open detracts from the artistic vision that the story and game play is trying to tell. I think his comments explain his reasons best and I agree with their reason behind it. For last mission etc.. it seems like if you step into different parts of the city it changes from his comments.

If everything was so real and they made day/night follow real time etc that would be lame as usually your always playing the game during when you mostly have free time which usually happens at the same time throughout the day/week. It would be hard to control the scenery in a game to be how u envisioned it if the person playing is playing during the day when its suppose to be night for the game and vice-versa.

[Elem187]

@Lukas so Infamous's biggest problem it's locked in the 30fps ghetto. Sad Sony doesn't see the benefit of 60fps gaming. I thought for sure they would see the benefit of aiming for better gameplay when upgrading to the PS4

[scott182]

^
60 fps is achievable for any game made, but you would have to dumb down the graphics in the games considerably in many cases, or the resolution. I think 30 fps is just fine if it allows the game to have nice eye candy...

[thereapersson]

@ Elem

30 fps makes the most sense in racing and FPS games. I don't have a problem with infamous being 30fps.

[tbone567]

This isn't even my main concern for the game. The fact it is 10 hours only with no mp is.

[MysticStrummer]

@tbone - Is that ten hours for both good and evil playthroughs or just one of them?

The article's title made me think "The explanation for the lack of dynamic day/night cycle is that the series never had one."

Good to see their take on "shadowgate". It makes sense, but that won't mean much to some people.

"Sad Sony doesn't see the benefit of 60fps gaming. I thought for sure they would see the benefit of aiming for better gameplay when upgrading to the PS4"

I thought for sure most gamers knew that all games don't need 60fps, and that 60fps doesn't necessarily make gameplay better any more than 1080p does.

[gedapeleda]

So they went with a more linear approach to create an atmosphere just like in Mafia

[ArchangelMike]

Well, I'll hold off any disappointment until I actually play the game. I understand what they are going for, that story immersion. But when I'm done with the story and want to bum around, and trying to find all the collectables, am I going to be stuck in a perpetual night?

[PersonMan]

Maybe when you load your save, you'll get a random time of day?

Also, Tomb Raider has day and night, but it doesn't cycle automatically, you have to travel to different locations in order to force the day to change.

[Detoxx]

No dynamic day/night cycle in an open world game is a joke..

[Sevir]

Really! Did you notice this when you played GTA5? Because that Game doesn't have dynamic day and night cycles and its open world... Just more people complaining to complain...

[GarrusVakarian]

A "joke" is a little ott.

But i think it should have been the same as GTA5, the day/night cycle is dynamic, but when you start a mission, the game fast forwards or rewinds the time of say to what the dev wanted the mission to take place at.

[Nachoman30]

@ Sevir

Have YOU played GTA5!? It absolutely does have a night/day cycle with dynamic weather. The missions will seldom fastforward to a specific time of day.

With that being said it is no way a deal breaker not to have a day/night cycle in a game like infamous. The original Infamous was slick and sexy and probably one of the most underated and BEST titles to come to PS3.

[itisallaboutps]

this has been the standard for every infamous game, it actually works well. is it me or has n4G been full of whiners lately?

it's good that none of you want to get shafted, but man, not every dev is out to get ya

[killzone619]

@Sevir

what?! GTA5 DOES have dynamic day and night cycles.

cant believe PS fanboys agreed with your comment. Just shows how pathetic the PS community are.

[Snookies12]

@killzone619 - I regret agreeing to your comment... I pressed agree for the GTA V having dynamic day/night cycles, but didn't see the second part of your comment which was completely out of left field and unnecessary. :\

[lifeisgamesok]

I don't think this game will live up to the hype

No day/night cycle, no shadows, gameplay seems limited, the characters seem unlikable, the enemies have too much accuracy

But it does look crisp

[Ashunderfire86]

Big deal man stop your fanboy nippicking man, day/night cycles in games are unrealistic anyway. You got games like Dying Light that goes dark within 5 minutes. I guess that's why they call it Dying Light cause the light is dying hehe! Day and night cycle is just unrealistic and not really needed that much in games. Let the developers decide guys!Facepalm.

[maniacmayhem]

Is it really that big of a deal?

This is more of a story driven game than a real world simulation or explore type of sandbox games that bogs you down with mindless side missions like GTA.

I think the experience and control of the main character will far exceed you noticing anything else going on with the game.

This so far is just one of the games that makes me want to go out and get a PS4.

[DC777]

Infamous isn't an open world GTA like sandbox. It's a story game where you can run around in between. If you thought so you're expecting something else. Not sure who even called it open world but they probably should use another phrase.

[DOMination-]

Well it was a big deal when forza5 didn't have it. An open world game should have it (more so than a non open racing game) so yes this is a big deal.

[memots]

So now we go off trolling day/night cycle ? Did ryse and forza have ? When did this become a must have??

Never mind the fact that infamous never had full night day cycle ... Troll harder people wow ... Just wow

[imt558]

If you played InFamous 1 and 2, there was dynamic day/night cicle too, but shifting as story progresses. So, same shit in Second Son.

[Philoctetes]

I like dynamic day/night cycles in games like Skyrim, but I hate them in games like GTA and Assassins Creed. Not sure I can explain why but it makes perfect sense to me. I'd prefer to have them be story driven in inFamous.

[Rickgrimes95]

I honestly don't even care for night in assassins creed completely agree

[ShowGun901]

...or racing games for that matter. in NFS Rivals, try escaping at night with a copter on you. that spotlight blinds you pretty effectively (as it should lol), making daytime destinctevly easier. Headlights are blinding too. i wouldn't mind easier races in daytime and harder races at night, but dynamic DOES have downfalls. i don't wanna have to wait around to start the race until dawn, isn't that missing the point of it being a game just a little? also, dynamic has no place in a scary game, because they're setting a tone. the same argument can be used about story driven games in general, because they're trying to set a tone also. i've never understood the love for dynamic day/night. much rather have it story driven, and have dynamic weather, becuase that would have less impact on gameplay and difficulty. wind changes, rain, cloudy/clear, that would be awesome!

[FanboyKilla]

lmfao at all the excuses you sony fans can make up to make the lack of dynamic lighting and real time day and night cycles awesome. theres nothing like busting azz on gta5 while the sun is rising, and then it starts to rain ugh. but then it stops. lol

[mogwaii]

I thought rockstar did a great job of day/night cycles in gtav, that game floored me graphically, imagine the next gta, sweeet.

[PersonMan]

He's absolutely right. Shadows become much softer and less pronounced when you're in dimly lit situations. The stronger the light source, the harder the shadow is going to be.

Also, Infamous 1 and 2 didn't have night/day cycles and those games were great.

[CernaML]

But what about after you beat the game? Will it become dynamic then?

[Blaze929]

good question actually.

[serratos27]

Doubt it, doesn't sound like they programmed anything in the game for an actual day/night cycle ie can't happen if it's not even programmed to do so. Zimmerman says it's really hard to have that cycle while maintaining the graphics they want for the game.

[FamilyGuy]

Are you even able to keep running about after the games story is over?

[CernaML]

You were able to that in previous games. However, Infamous 2 did a sort of go back in time trick to before the final mission happens.

[Beastforlifenoob]

Im guessing its like saints row the third everytime you load it, it will cycle to a random time of day.

[CyrusLemont]

Why couldn't they just have a normal day/night/weather cycle, and when you initiate a mission, it changes to fit the tone of that mission? Or at least when you finish the game make it dynamic when free roaming. It seems kind of lame and more immersion breaking that the weather and day/night is static.

[Nekroo91]

So changing from day time to night time in 3 secs when you start a mission isnt immersion breaking?....right.
Its actually a good idea some missions are ment to play during night time others during the day, its a way to showcase the neon powers during the night etc

[Golden_Mud]

actually , I would love seeing them try what Rockstar did with GTAV , the day/night shuffle happening before the mission begins and it looked like a cinematic movie having a day/night transition

[CyrusLemont]

No, it's still immersion breaking, but less immersion breaking than running around, finding collectibles, and doing side quests -which will most likely take up more time than the main story- all in a single time of day. You don't want to run around for 30 minutes in the game and have no weather/time of day change. Yes I know the transition would be slightly weird for entering a mission, but it'll take about 5 seconds more than those 3, to get used to it. Instead, the entire time you're running around outside of those missions, nothing is changing! I mean, it wouldn't hurt to at least make it dynamic post main story. I'm honestly not that fussed, I just talk a lot haha. The game is going to be awesome either way :)

PS I think what IHassounah mentioned seems like a brilliant way to approach it and create a happy medium.

[DigitalAnalog]

@Nekroo

Or you can have certain missions activate at certain time periods. GTA and RDR does this sometimes as well as Shenmue. This is just another excuse of the developer who can't bring in dynamic features in a "next-gen" game.

[RiPPn]

Assassin's Creed 3 did day night and weather cycles pretty well. But it was odd when you would start a mission and it would instantly switch.

I'm sure it'll be fine either way, not really concerned about it personally.

[game_infected]

and if it was on xb1?! because its weak now dev choice!

[rarity]

the xb1 has nothing to do with this. "because its weak now dev choice!" what the hell does that mean?

[ShowGun901]

ugh, does every conversation have to devolve into this?

lets all just take a pill and enjoy our games, okey-dokey? jeez...

[beerzombie]

Because you and the Sony fans and media have been bashing X1 for everything. Maybe not you but this site and many YouTube sites, gaming media and now anything that's gets put out there will be bashed.
Your favorite company "Sony" started this at E3 and it now will not stop for this entire generation, and that's is very sad.
That's what us X1 one fans have been saying let the developers make great games and leave at that. lets not pick apart everything.

[gobluesamg]

@Beer
AWWWWWWW.....Poor lil guy!

[MysticStrummer]

"That's what us X1 one fans have been saying…"

Wow, so the XB1 fan base is completely different from the 360 fan base? When has that ever happened in console history, and where is the news story about it? I'm amazed.

[SoulSercher620]

It's because of people like you is why every article turns into a debate involving the console war. How about staying on topic?

[mogwaii]

They aren't doing anything they didn't do in the last infamous games except making it look better, i would love dynamic shadows too cause i gotta admit it looks weird when delsen stands in fromt of a cars high beams and dosnt cast any shadow at all but the game looks pretty amazing as it is, i dont think we will care once we are running around.
A few years down the track we will get our dynamic shadows and we can all look back and laugh, oh how we will laugh, lol.

[ShowGun901]

its pretty obvious that open world games are usually a little crappier graphics-wise than corridor type games. thats why Sons of the Patriots and Uncharted/TLoU could push the graphics so far at the time. making a free roam, huge interactive environment will always be harder on the tech than a small area thats easy to script. nothing new here people, if you want huge, you sacrifice a little detail. all in all i think it looks awesome tho!

[Ck1x]

I'm starting to think that most of the games this generation won't live up to their initial reveals. IGN has a brief talk about Infamous with a guy from Suckerpunch and the game just looks like a slightly prettier game in the Infamous series. With glossy streets and neon fire effects!

[mogwaii]

Its early days my friend, early days.

[The_Truth_24_7]

Lol! No shadows, no dynamic day/night cycle, and no MP!

[GarrusVakarian]

What a pathetic comment.

The past games had no SP....HOW DID THEY EVER MANAGE?!/s. Infamous is a singleplayer franchise. I guess you won't be playing Quantum Break.

There are shadows...facepalm. Just not from all sources. Read the damn article - "It kind of depends on the effect we want to go for. In a bright day time scene, absolutely, you get these really nice smooth shadows on everything"

As for no dynamic day/night cycle, im sure some people find that disappointing but SP want certain missions to take place at certain times of day/certain weather conditions (but i do feel they could have just copied what GTA5 did), but you was never going to play this game anyway, you're just trolling.

[Heisenburger]

Stop feeding him Luke. I agree with you, but you have to walk away.

[Ch1d0r1]

Sold!

[Rickgrimes95]

yeah the whole day/night cycle I don't think it's like they couldn't fit it in there probably a design choice that they as game developers decided that's a more immersive experience I trust sucker punch infamous 2 was well above my expectations I could care less about any of this anyway I just want to see all the powers in action on my 50" :O

[Kennytaur]

I have absolutely no problems with this.

[CrossingEden]

The lack of hard shadows at night makes sense but Delsin doesn't cast ANY shadow at night, which is disappointing/pretty immersion breaking to me especially when Delsin is in front of high beams.
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And what if after the game ends the game gets stuck in a visual mode? If the game ends at daytime does that mean it'll never be night again? If so that is also disappointing.

[GarrusVakarian]

" Delsin doesn't cast ANY shadow at night"

The moon casts shadows...im pretty sure i read that somewhere.

You sure do love that GIF, lol.

[hulk_bash1987]

@Eden

"It Depends. We turn them on and off. Here you’re not gonna see so much shadowing going on because it’s night time so you don’t really have a strong directional source…

It kind of depends on the effect we want to go for. In a bright day time scene, absolutely, you get these really nice smooth shadows on everything, at night time when the light really is coming from all around you, you don’t get super crisp shadows in the real world, so we don’t have them here."

There you go man, you said they took out shadows from the previous builds but in actuality the reason the shadows weren't in the latest demo shown is that it was at night and in dark tunnels.

[DigitalRaptor]

Explain to me how this constant glow of dash movement can afford this already stupendous looking game consistent dynamic shadows?

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Game looks stupendously good.

[plaZeHD]

We shouldn't cut-back at things we achieved last gen.

[u got owned]

This ^^

[gobluesamg]

@Eden
Why are you so disappointed when you will never own a PS4 or this game troll boy.

[ginsunuva]

At least it's not like RDR where you can start a mission at 2am and everyone's akwardly awake having chariot races or selling snake oil.

[WeAreLegion]

They should put that on the back of the next Red Dead box as the description.

[MCTJim]

Since the E3 reveal to now, I see the downgrades. Do I care? No, it wont to most either. Its the pixel counters and resolution/effect junkies that it matters most to. I want this game, really nothing on the PS4 since knack and KZSF has interested me since. This game will fill the void quite nicely.

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

Geez...people complain too much about nothing. Next they will complain about the lack of clouds in the sky...who gives a eff...come on people, Infamous is gonna be one of the best games to go down in history, simple as that! Sucker Punch has done a fantastic job with SS.

[B_Rian89]

I can understand no dynamic day/night cycle for the sake of trying to get across a certain mood for the story, but I think Rockstar pulled it off great with GTAV. How they made the time of day progress in fast motion before certain missions.

[nevin1]

lol at the inconsistencies on this site.

[AnEwGuY]

I prefer games that let me control the time of day, like GTA, Far Cry 2 & 3, and Bethesda's TES & Fallout games do, with the sleep/wait mechanics. Of course with GTA, the time rolls forward in chunks (6 hrs ?), and certain missions may still move the time forward, depending on the story. So I get what Sucker Punch is going for, but it kinda takes away from the true nature of a sandbox game.

[Subaruwrx]

Liked the way Zimmerman gave an honest answer to the questions. The choice not to include night/day cycles and realistic shadows was made for stylistic and practical reasons. The Infamous series has never been about hyper realism. It has a pulp scifi/comic book feel to it. The environment is used to lend mood and ambiance to the story - it's not a depiction of the real world. Yeah they could have chosen a more realistic approach but why? How would a day/night cycle and realistic shadow effects improve the game play or story? Great graphics don't have to be ultra realistic.

[Justindark]

it should be night and day i mean hell zeldas been doing it since n64... if this games trying to be realistic visual wise it should add to this just saying but what ever still some really cool gameplay in this game despite some awkward animations mostly the way he get into his stance and shoots some of his. spowers

[WeAreLegion]

Earthbound had day and night, too. The difference is...no Zelda has ever looked anywhere near this good. No Zelda will for 10 years, either. I love Zelda, but still.

[Justindark]

I don't want Zelda to look like this. And uhm, if zelda looks like that tech demo they showed, it has this game beat. Zelda has better animation, art design, and gameplay, in my opinion. And you sure about that? because this game does not look that good. Now you're over exaggerating lol the animations in this game annoy me.

[IRNMUNKEY]

Its true when I stand in front or car headlights at night I cast no shadow! Basically they used up the gpu on the particle effects and couldn't hit 1080p if they had shadows as well.

[solar]

Supercharged PC.

[MaxwellBuddha]

8GB of GDDR5 RAM!!! LOL

[plaZeHD]

I bet gamers are gonna discover more and more insufficiency when this game finally hits store shelves.
These so called next gen consoles aren't sounding too pretty these past days.
I have yet to see a single game without lacking something.
It either doesn't run at full HD and consistent 30-60fps if it does it's lacking in some graphical department.

[WeAreLegion]

Every game ever released "lacks something" in the eyes of most N4G users, apparently.

[kewlkat007]

Come on Zelda has night day. Ill go way back to Castlevania :Simons Quest.

Having that cycle allows more depth in the game,immersion, replay value and different game scenarios like different monsters powers and ghouls..

Look at GTA, Dead Rising, Fable...and other games that have came out.

Sometimes it's a whole new game at night compared to day. They should at least consider it today when making open world game. Will Watchdog have a day/night cycle or will it be downgraded like most games.

[Hicken]

Funny, cuz when people complain about the lack of night driving in Forza and bring up how it's been in GT since the very first game, it doesn't matter.

But now, with a game that's FAR more complicated than Zelda or Castlevania(and really, was there anything remotely "dynamic" about either of those games?), it's suddenly a big deal?

[andibandit]

What are you babbling about, you cant find a Forza article on here without 10 people having huge issues with the missing day/night cycle.

[Justindark]

um what and yeah its a big deal its ps4 cus if a nintendo game diden't have it ud batch about it none stop i say if u wana make ur games look real they need to have night and day and weather.

[maniacmayhem]

@Hicken

Didn't you make a big deal about Forza not having a day and night cycle in the game?

http://n4g.com/news/1289032...

Comment #8

Since GTA and other sandbox games have these elements, this game should also be a big disappointment for you shouldn't it?

Or will you now give this game a pass as you usually do when it comes to all things Sony.

[MysticStrummer]

lol @ the above comments. It's obvious Hicken was talking about XB1 fans not caring about Forza's lack of day/night, but suddenly caring about this.

But, it goes both ways. People who laughed at Forza for it shouldn't give Infamous a pass for no day/night cycle… unless they've played a previous Infamous game and know that's how they all have been. The shadow thing... we'll have to see the final product.

Hicken is correct in saying Infamous is a much more visually complex game than Forza/Zelda/Castlevania though, and that should be taken into account also.

[killzone619]

No day and night cycle in an open world NEXT GEN game?

FAIL

[Silly gameAr]

You people will complain about anything. So petty.

[plaZeHD]

Why are people saying this is alright because the previous installments don't have dynamic cycle too?
This is next gen we are talking about, it's time to move on. They got a more capable system, I think.
If it's for that "feel" why not add a fast forwarding system when triggering a mission like GTA V?

[IRNMUNKEY]

Its not comparable to GTAV. Its got a full city but you can't drive vehicles, go bowling, buy clothes or anything. Side missions will be go fetch missions or shoot destroy this outpost.

Its basically an arcade shooter with one big map instead of levels. I played first infamous and enjoyed it but this is just sane again from sounds of it minus the scaling buildings as you can now just fly up buildings by the look of videos.

Its just not an open world game if all you can do is runaround and collect or shoot stuff. No variety at all which is why I got bored of Infamous 2.

It just looked cool but that's not enough for me.

[mediate-this]

Its their cinematic approach.

[kevinsheeks]

>.> wait tho when titan-fall dev's said 6 vs 6 just felt right they got ate alive >.>

but when it's infamous and the order cinematic approach becomes valid

not going directly at you but look at some articles and just see how unfairly one dev gets treated versus two other devs

[MaxwellBuddha]

I really, REALLY hate that ****ing term.

Games aren't movies, and I wish Sony, the worst offender of them all, would stop trying to mix the two.

[Father__Merrin]

after watching gameplay I have to say this is the best looking next gen game out there

look at neon powers at night, stunning!!!!!!!

[BitbyDeath]

Great to hear the game does have shadows.
Day/Night doesn't bother me, as long as we aren't locked to one or the other then all good.

[Mister_G]

Sounds okay to me, hardly big news.

[phntom]

Sucks it doesn't have a day/night cycle, but what can I do about it?

[Adolph Fitler]

60fps is not a big deal for an open world game, or a 3rd person game....60fps would be IDEAL for each & every game that ever releases on PS4...Nobody could deny that.....But nobody can deny that it is not detrimental to making a great game....None of the Halo's have ever been 60fps, Titanfall will not be, none of the GTA's including GTA5.....
Fact is, most noticeable genre for 60fps is the 1st person shooter, & the racing game....Pretty much every other genre can get along at 30fps just fine, I mean, even 1st person shooters can, as evidenced by Halo & Titanfall & 95% of other shooters that have ever released....But in this day & age, 1st person shooters & racers SHOULD be 60fps as standard.
As for the topic here, WHO cares that the times of day are not dynamic, as the game looks so dynamic in ALL other areas, especially as far as gameplay & controls go....The series has always been tighter & more story based, with a tighter, more focused, linear structure, than other open world games, & that makes it even better for me....as I don't want EVERY game to have that overwhelming open world structure, that you sometimes get lost in, & waste half your game time. So, weather, day/night cycles, & that TOTAL open world feel, can be somewhat overated IMO...And that is why games like Unchartered, COD & TLOU, are so huge, popular & critically acclaimed.....as they cater to not only hardcore gamers, but ALL types of gamers, as there story based, single player campaigns, are SO much easier to get into & identify with from the onset, due to the more focused, linear & tight productions.

Don't get me wrong, I do love me my full open world games with masses of sh1t to do, dynamic effects, & all the bells & whistles.....BUT, I also love the Unchartered's, TLOU's, Bioshock's, COD's, GeOW's, GOW's, & all these more linear structured titles.

[mhunterjr]

Titanfall is 60fps...

But your right, folks are making a big deal about nothing. The noise is amplified on this ps4 game because similar nonsense was spewed xb1 games. Such is the console wars I guess...

[badboy776]

And???

Explain no environment damage in Titanfll.

[Psychotica]

Mildly disappointing, certainly nothing that will stop me from buying it though

[Ozmoses]

I pre-ordered/paid it off today. Looks good to me. Plus it's an exclusive.

I played Infamous 1 and 2 and Festival of Blood, but haven't beat any of them.

This looks more intriguing and appealing than the others in my opinion. I say I played about 45% through both Infamous 1 and 2, they felt kind of drab after awhile. But, that's probably just because I burn through games. Downside of always picking up new releases when they hit the shelf.

But in saying that I don't mean to bash it in anyway. I just got bored and moved on to whatever new game came out the next month.

Spring/Summer of PS4 - MGS V:GZ, Infamous: Second Son and MLB: The Show is what I got pre-ordered..

[Adolph Fitler]

"Explain no environment damage in Titanfll"

Explain the 5 BILLION sales that COD got without environmental damage, then explain the 5 million that the BF series got with environmental damage....
People don't care about those things...If the game is so great & engaging, then these things simply either don't matter, or are so mildly disappointing that it won't spoil the fun that MOST will have with the games.

These things are a mute point is most great games.

[annus]

Ah, what... CoD doesn't have 5 billion copies sold for the franchise, and BF4 alone has sold over 5 million copies...

Do you realise how much 5 billion copies would be? Each game sells like 30 million copies, even if there were say 10 games that all sold 30 million (which they haven't) that's still only 300 million. That's not even 1/3rd of one billion copies, and that isn't even CLOSE to what CoD has.

If you are a troll I don't really understand your point, because it's not funny, annoying, witty, or anything, so I am slightly confused.

[Jack_Reacher]

Speak for yourself. The environmental damage in BF4 makes COD look like the piece of plastic it is. So your wrong.

I tried COD after BF4 and nearly puked. (exaggeration much there)!

None of the Infamous games have had day/night cycles. Its not part of that game. Were as GTA 5 its part of the whole living breathing world.

But it would have been an extra string to the bow if they had done it I suppose.

God forbid anyone thinks it cannot be done. people surely cannot be that stupid

[mhunterjr]

I'm a strong supporter of letting developers make the game they set out to make (I take no issue with sucker punch'a decision here). But the hypocrisy on this board is dumbfounding.

Forza took a beating for not having dynamic weather or day cycles, like some other racers. But The same people who bashed it, give Infamous a pass for missing a feature that's in every other open world game.

It makes no sense.

[srd4484]

Hit the nail on the head. Forza was trashed for not having dynamic weather & day cycles on this very site. Now, since it has to do with a Sony game, it's alright. Kinda like what happened with Killzone NOT being 1080/60 MP. It was ok we were lied to.

Infamous can't even do shadows on this very powerful system.

Nothing is said. They get a pass. But ready to jump on anything XB1

[MrDead]

inFamous has never had a day to night cycle, the time is story specific. If you've played any inFamous game you would know this.

The game has shadows, if you read the article you would know this.

It looks to me like you just looked at a title and commented even though you know nothing about the series.

[dmonee]

I never realized the day/night dynamic was absent in the previous two games. Was having to much fun beating down innocent bystanders to notice.

[unicron7]

Are people seriously bitching over this? Straw grasping. lol Jesus. It's artistic direction.. deal with it. Are there going to be any more BS articles like this posted in this month? Took disgruntled xbox fans long enough to crawl back from underneath their rocks to bitch about nothing. Can't wait for Titanfall to release already so they'll shut the hell up.

[AutoCad]

lol wow

[Flames76]

With titanfall coming out on march 11 on the Xbox One i doubt anyone is really thinking about infamous lol

[RandomDude655]

Takes a couple comprises to be the best looking console game. I'm fine with it

[sander9702]

I really hope that when you completed the game you can choose the weather and time of day in the menu so you don't need to reload saves every time you want a different setting.

[DC777]

This is laughable. This is a single player story game not GTA. If you want to think it's something else, well...lol good luck with that. The game looks excellent. How the hell could there be day and night cycles in a story driven game? What if something in the story involves a specific time of the day? You want the sun to pop out of your ass or something? Lol