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DayZ creator: Xbox One has "exciting things" coming, can't share details.

If comments from DayZ creator Dean Hall are anything to go by, it sounds like Microsoft is cooking up some exciting new features for the Xbox One. After meeting with Microsoft to discuss a console version of DayZ, Hall said he got to see some "really interesting" features coming to the platform, though he's not allowed to discuss them just yet.

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jay23709d ago ShowReplies(7)
Gozer3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

Keep the features coming MS. So glad I own an X1.

@bolts and rays
Nothing wrong with owning both. I personally am not interested in the ps4 though. I like MSs exclusives over sonys.

Bolts-N-Rays11093709d ago

I'm glad I own one, as well. Though, I'll be glad when I get my PS4, too. I kinda like playing games.

CynicalKelly3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

>I kinda like playing games.

That seems like a jab. Pretty uncalled for, Xbox is at least doing games right so far, there is plenty of play on the system.

Edit: Ah, I see. My bad, yeah, being able to play the best of both worlds is a fantastic position to be in.

Bolts-N-Rays11093709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

@CynicalKelly

I didn't attend for it to be a jab! I just meant I like playing all the games.

XB1 has a lot of really good games, and like I said I'm glad I own the system.

scott1823709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

@CynicalKelly
That was a jab from you as well, I'm pretty sure Sony is doing games right too. Depends on your taste in games... Neither systems launch exclusives scored high on meta.

No_Limit3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

"I kinda like playing games"

Me too, that is why I bought the XB1 a month ago with Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, and looking forward to Titanfall and Project Spark soon.

I also have a PS4, bought it at launch and haven't touch it in a month because I like playing games and the PS4 is in a drought right now.

JodyCones3709d ago

I don't need need an xbox to say I like playing games.

Pogmathoin3709d ago

I like playing games too.... From Atari, Spectrum, Amiga,ST, C64 through nearly all of the consoles.... Then I found out some machines were more powerful than the other, but the fun never changed on any......

malokevi3709d ago

That didn't sound like a jab to me. I like playing games, too! Which is why I broke the bank.

sak5003709d ago

@Pogmathoin

Same here, atari 2600, c64, amiga500, PC 486, pentium 90, voodoo cards 4mb in pc, ps1, ps2, 360 and xbox one.

we didn't have this rampant fanboy problems back then. Due to net's anonymity even fat pimply kids can write so much negative things about something they dont like and think the world thinks the same way. Luckily n4g is only a negligible percentage of people and their opinions dont mean jack in real world, let them pray to $ony Gods and put MS down but MS are still doing better than these stupid people are writing about.

UncleGermrod3709d ago

@bolts, I got x1 first, but the best thing I ever did was jump on ps4 early. Now I do not need to miss out on anything, and the "console wars" do not exists in my realm.

Still, I love my x1, and this type of news has been more prominent lately. I always had a feeling that once the x1 hit the market and things began to flesh out a bit, that MS would show us plenty of reasons to have one.

DOMination-3709d ago

I think people like playing games

Shiken3708d ago

PS4 console generation exclusive games out (That I like):

Killzone Shadowfall
Knack
Outlast
Resogun
Don't Starve
Warframe
DC Universe Online

XBone (same concept):

Dead Rising 3
Killer Instinct
Forza 5
Ryse
Crimson Dragon

PS4 2014

Infamous Second Son
Driveclub
MLB The Show
The Order 1886
Final Fantasy XIV
Deep Down (maybe)
Planetside 2

XBone 2014

Titanfall (sequel probably on PS4 as well)
Project Spark
Halo 5 (maybe?)
Fable Legends (maybe?)

PS4 Post 2014

Uncharted 4
Everybody's Gone to Rapture

XBone Post 2014

Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive

Both consoles have things yet to announce and have good things to come. XBots are fools for saying PS4 has no games and PS4 fanboys are insecure and pathetic. People will get what they like, deal with it. There is nothing wrong with liking XBone.

Why I chose PS4...

Despite what XBots say, PS4 has more quality games in the making than XBone IMO (in sheer numbers alone regardless of quality is FACT) and launch line ups were pretty evenly matched. Furthermore I love 3rd party games as well, and getting the best version on those games is a huge plus. The PS+ value is just the icing on the cake.

MS is bringing the heat though (which I love). This competition is only going to push Playstation to continue delivering the quality titles I love to stay on top. As of right now, Titanfall and Quantum Break are all that the One has that could be a console seller (not a Halo fan), and the PS4 has so much on the way in the big picture that I won't have time to utilize both fully. Nothing against XBone, but for me PS4 is just better as a long term investment and I'm not dropping 500 (or even another 400) for just two games.

Fanboys grow up, people have tastes and the competition is a GOOD THING. Not sure what I can say on the matter other than I am excited to see what the XBone has to offer, even as a Playstation fan.

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christocolus3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

I cant wait to see what ms brings to E3. Its going to be a great show, below is Phils recent comment on twitter regarding what to expect at E3.

@StonecoldMC E3 planning is looking good, will have a lineup of new, announced, unannounced and hopefully unexpected.

"Unexpected" now thats what i want to see...

danthegamerfiend3709d ago

Hell yeah guys. Very happy to own my Xbox one. Being a beta user for the new dashboard update. You could say we are in a great hands. The new party system is great!

DEEBO3709d ago

so what does the update offer? i just DL today i know i can brodcast now with twitch but what else does it do?
I was shock MS let me in the preview update program.

danthegamerfiend3709d ago

The update brought in a party system similarly to the xbox 360 but better. It doesnt involve having to jump to one screen and then having to turn on party chat manually. They have provided more options with inviting people in the party system. whether it is to game together or just party up and chat together. The friends list also has been revamped as well. They made getting to your friends list one click away versus three clicks. If you set up your favourites, it makes even easier to track them. I find overall the dashboard laggs less and there are more audio settings in the settings. For me these have been big changes and im glad the team is listening to us and making those changes.

tontontam03709d ago

I like ps4 exclusives games over ms, but I like games and I'm willing to spend $500 just to play ms exclusive games.

ps4 for multiplats for superior resolution.
xbox one for exclusive games that I can't play on my pc and ps4.

GW2123709d ago

Yup, totally agree. I have my PS4 plugged into a gaming monitor and Astro A50 headset. XB1 is plugged into my TV.

PS4 for most of my gaming, XB1 for some exclusives and media.

Isn't that the way each wanted their console to come across to the consumer market?

Zombro3709d ago

Me to bro me to I have both but not to sound like a fan boy ps4 is covered in dust plantsvs zombie garden warfare is so fun

ger23963709d ago

Why don't you sell it? With its high demand, you could recoup some of your money.

Bigpappy3709d ago

I like when people buy and play games that peak their interest. Tell those 'pro reviewer': "go play what you like and I will do the same". Reviews are gamers, not all of us have the same taste. I would read and acknowledge their opinions, but I how when I comment, after playing it myself, they offer me the same courtesy... commence holding breath.

Zombro3709d ago

I'm sure games are gonna come out for it

Rimeskeem3709d ago

"I like MS exclusives over sonys"

maybe on the xbox one but if you are saying that about xbox 360 then something is wrong with you

beerzombie3709d ago

Not if you online shooters over linear story telling.

Rimeskeem3707d ago

beerzombie

thing is doing linear story telling right is much more of a complete game then doing an online shooter right

jessupj3709d ago

I prefer Sony exclusives because imo there's more variety, more quantity and most importantly more quality. However, I'm not that much of a fanboy that I would bitterly say I'm not interested in MS games, unlike you.

I hope for you sake and other people that enjoy MS exclusives that MS doesn't drop support again half way through the generation to focus on the juicy casual pie.

Prime1573709d ago

http://i.imgur.com/zl10SZ0....

There has to be many more x1 exclusives coming out based off of the above image.

itBourne3709d ago

That image never gets old lol. MS cannot support a consoles life span because they do not have 1st party devs. They buy a few exclusives early on in a console life span then it is done. It happened with the xbox, it happened with the 360, it will happen again.

My point is, why support a company that does not want to support you. I would rather support the company that gives me fucking amazing games all the way through, even 6 or 7 years into a console cycle (GoW 2, Last of US, jst to name a few in a late life span of a console).

FriedGoat3709d ago

That image is RIDICULOUS.
haha, I knew it was bad when I stopped playing my 360 but I didn't realise it was that bad. This just proves it.

itBourne3709d ago

You like MS exclusives over Sony? I am sincerely curious as to what exclusives you are talking about? Halo? Really old franchise and not made by the same people. Gears? Same thing, Epic and Bungie no longer doing either. Fable maybe? Rare, they are doing great things... I Really just cannot understand from a logical stand point your argument. Unless maybe you are a massive Forza fan, I am unsure as to what exclusives you speak of. Sunset Overdrive? Insomniac is a washed up dev, their last 5 games have been meh at best. I loved Insomniac, they fucked up and expanded way to quick, lost a lot of quality for quantity. Project Spark is the only exclusive remotely interesting, and I actually am thoroughly excited for, could be a massive ball of fun or a complete cluster fuck. Outside that though, I just do not see the talent from a first party developer stand point.

beerzombie3709d ago

The box is an online box to play multiplayer games. It always been that way and still the best place to play online games with dedicated servers. If you do not get it I understand, play by your self on the Ps4 and have a great day.

CYCLEGAMER3709d ago

@itbourne
Watch this...You like the ps4 exclusives over the xb1's??? You mean killzone a boring 1st person shooter? knack? Seriously? oh wait are you talking about infamous, the rehashed game that has no character progression and is a downgrade from what was shown at E3, maybe you mean the order, a squad based game with no multiplayer that we know very little about??

Do you see how silly your response was??? I am looking forward to ALL of these games (xb1 and ps4), but it is easy to point out flaws for ANY game or developer. IMO the xb1 has better and more new next gen exclusives, but I am looking forward to The Order and Infamous, and whatever else the ps4 has to offer, when those games release.

itBourne3708d ago

I was not talking about launch games... We know MS can deliver exclusives the first year or two of a console, then what after that? They have no 1st party support. It happened with the xbox and the 360, it will continue to happen.

Obscure_Observer3709d ago

Oh yes. Family Share all the way! :)

GoGoGadge73709d ago

Denial is a helluva thing to go through.

I have a PS4 and XB1... I haven't turned it on since I beat Ryse in December.

PS4 getting straight love all night long.

TitanFall is going to be tits though.

CYCLEGAMER3709d ago

Yes denial is a helluva drug. I bought both as well and I haven't touched the ps4 since killzone....and???

What games did you buy for the xb1? What you say is easy to claim if you only bought Ryse.

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Wizard_King3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

lol DayZ will never make it to any console ever.

Full stop.

You are delusional if you think otherwise.

A different game by Bohemia Interactive with Dean as lead dev maybe.

Wizard_King3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

I encourage any one who disagrees to tell me why?

I play DayZ and all the other mods a hell of a lot.

It take a modern quad core running at 3.2ghz or higher, steaming the install data from a 6gbps SSD and over 8 gig of RAM to run this game anywhere near playable.

BI (Bohemia Interactive) have been using the very same engine from Operation flashpoint to ARMA/2/3 much the same way the COD devs have. They simply keep modding the same old engine.

Having said that there is no way that either the ARMA 2 or AMRA 3 simulation engine could run on either next gen console and achieve above 10fps, they are simply to CPU heavy for the weak (yes I said it) laptop CPU's that exist in the XB1 and PS4. Not to mention that it take at least a 2 gig frame buffer on the GPU to be able to keep up with the amount of streaming texture data that the engine requires.

The control scheme is mad and nearly every key has a function or more, controls will never work.

It took BI 6 years to port the orgignal OpFlash to the first Xbox and that was cut down to hell and ran like poo.

BI have not ever bothered with building a new engine and the current engine has been in development for well over a decade and suffers from the same 32 bit limitations as Operation Flashpoint had in 2000. Due to this and that BI has shown no signs of new engine development I can conclude that DayZ will never make it to any console unless they start making a new DayZ engine for console (ground up) it will never happen. Last estimate from BI regarding porting the current engine to 64 bit was something in the line of 5-7 years.

Like I said earlier if BI gets Dean working on a console exclusive game with a different game engine then anything is possible.

But DayZ as we know and love even the standalone will never grace any console MARK MY WORDS!

If you think it will please explain to me why you think this, when every logical sign says it never will and isn't technically possible.

EDIT at those guys above. KRIBWALKER

I have a very low opinion of most console games as they pander to the lowest common denominator games like Killzone I thought was boring, I don't even know what Knack is and I only have COD4 on PC... The way it was ment to be played.

EDIT 2 at everyone above.

So I think those games are shit and that makes me a Sony defense force troll? Please suck me of you children, just because I think MS's offering is mediocre at best doesn't mean I am a Sony fan either, at this point the PS4's range of games is laughable at best.

webeblazing3709d ago

i dont even know why you posted the hardware. arma3 is a beast to max but, console gamers would praise it even if it run on med that just what they do. i do agree on the controls tho. too many keys to be on consoles to give you the edge and right control over your char. the last game i could think of that give you close to the control over your char is socom cf ps3 and it only had the lean aspect. great game dont know why everyone hated it.

the thing is to put dayz or even arma on consoles would equal dumb it down. you either swim or sink. people will help you but if your not trying they will help or watch you drown.

RexLex3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

@Wizard_king:

Wow you have i5 at 3.2 ,.. PC mustard race ,.. lolol

PS4 eats your PC for breakfast,.. I am sorry if get you are upset, but is just how it is,..

Look at FF15 ,.. Runs maxed out on PS4 1080P @60FPS ,.. Now go download FF15 benchmark tool ,.. and run it (@1080p maximal) and cry.

But it is true that Arma 3 is optimized like crap,.. like all bohemia games,.. You almost need to wait for new generation to play it @max and brute force it,.. (Still think Arma3 runs pretty well compared to Arma2)

Nero13143709d ago

May not come to other consoles

Elit3Nick3709d ago

despite the fact they teased it during the twitch video...

Paulie_gualtieri3709d ago

Despite the fact dean himself has said he wants it on consoles eventually

ABizzel13709d ago

We'll see come GDC / E3. DayZ has been rumored for PS4 by the devs. quite a while too, but they've been quite since expressing wanting to develop the game for the platform.

I don't think Day Z is a console type game based on what the majority of console games buy even excluding the huge sellers like GTA / COD / BF / AC / etc... It's an unforgiving game, and if it makes it to console I see it with a niche audience.

Gozer3709d ago

I don't know, its a zombie game. Xbox fans love a good zombie game. Dead Rising, State of Decay, COD-Nazi Zombies, and Left 4 Dead have all done well on the Xbox platform.

JustPlay43709d ago

At least it not as bad as Nether, that game is truly unforgiving

But there both still beta, so it won't be coming out and any time soon unless this is old mod of dayz or something

ABizzel13709d ago

@Gozer

If you played DayZ you know it's nothing like those games, beside the fact that zombies are in it. None of those games are die hard as Day Z.

CynicalKelly3709d ago

What sort of insider knowledge do you have on this matter? Considering the developer of the game just returned from meeting with Microsoft and Sony to discuss it going to console and has said the decision will be made before the end of 2014.

If the developer doesn't know if it's going to console, how do you?

lets_go_gunners3709d ago

Funny..I run this game on an Intel duo 2gigs of ram and a radeon 6670 ddr3. I play at about 40-50 fps on whatever setting the game auto chose. So either I'm delusional or you're just wrong.

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xx4xx3709d ago

The article sure seems to indicate that it'd be coming to the Xbox in some form....and I'm sure the PS4 as well.

Way too much money on the table for it to stay PC exclusive.

It may not meet the master race technical specs you so freely spouted nor may it be an exact port but it's coming.

Dean Hall said he can't share details....If nothing was cooking why would he say that...just say 'no comment', 'not happening'.

Prime1573709d ago

I agree as he said, "He explained that a decision about a console version of DayZ is likely to be made by the end of 2014. He made clear that a console iteration of the zombie game is not in development right now, and if it does get green-lit, it will probably take 12 months to create a console version."

If it takes them 10 months to decide and 12 to port, it will be too late.

iistuii3709d ago

@wizard you go about the Arma engine & how it wouldn't work on consoles & your right. But it's not the consoles, it's the engine that even for a top gaming PC it's unoptimized. It's been plagued with problems for years & many people not being able to get a steady framerate. Agree the engine wouldn't work on consoles, but the engine is the problem.

beerzombie3709d ago

From what I read Dayz is over rated and boring as hell.

HAC5223708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

i disagree, the guy in the past has said hes working on getting it ported.

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Bolts-N-Rays11093709d ago

Looking forward to these "exciting things."

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Xbox Is Not Your Friend

After laying off almost 2,000 people, Xbox finds itself in a position at odds with the community-first image it has cultivated for itself.

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TwoPicklesGood4h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos3h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac2h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits1h ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi56m ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek1h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies33m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows29m ago(Edited 28m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

QUOTE
"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

rippermcrip2h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide2h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies38m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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