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Nintendo’s new nightmare

Sony’s PlayStation 4 has finally debuted in Japan… and it is a big problem for Nintendo. According to Famitsu, the PS4 had a pretty great launch week, moving 322,000 units in its home market debut. The Sony box has clearly accelerated the steady erosion of Nintendo’s 3DS portable console sales.

BoneBone3704d ago

"The Wii U is dead and buried — even in Japan, its sales are now at a dismal 8,000 weekly level. It’s all now riding on 3DS."

Childish and unprofessional use of language. After 7 days of the PS4 on sale? Please learn some patience before jumping to extreme conclusions 4 years too early. Terrible 'journalism'. Just terrible.

DonDon3703d ago

Lol I just KNEW you would be the first one to jump to Nintendo's defense. Nothing in your response undoes the facts stated in the article. If you want to hold onto some hope that the Wii U will be fine, than go ahead. But don't expect EVERYONE to put their trust in a system that had a 1 year head-start, only to be outpaced in a mere 3 months by ps4. We can believe what we want, and according to sales, MOST people believe that the Wii U isn't worth their time, while the ps4 IS.

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Geekman3703d ago

While at the same time the PS4 outselling one console doesn't mean doom for it. And there were no facts in this article, speaking as a neutral gamer.

BullyMangler3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

ps4 sold more than a wiiU, aaand ??

haha sales dont deem a winner . lol wiiU STILL on top of ps4 like missionary position. and with less sales .

Better looking, more inventive, more next Gen quality exclusives on a wiiU rather a ps4 just Resogun < lol . .

nintendo is in the lead by a TON over ps4 < fact , because sales dont determine a consoles glory, the exclusive games do < fact . . .

nintendo is STILL dominating. better get used to it. .

just-joe3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Let's overlook the fact that Nintendo is still worth more than Sony as well as Sony selling off it's PC business and closing over 60 percent of their stores. The Wii U may not be selling well but Nintendo still doing better than Sony.

BoneBone3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Jumping to the defense of the Wii U? You sound a little like an over emotional school boy with a crush on a teacher. Problem is with people like you, you see it as strange should anyone say perhaps nice or positive things about a toy, but reading, writing and commenting negative things about a toy is just completely normal.

No, that's just a little bit psychotic.

Honestly, all you hear PS4 people talk and talk and talk about is SALES. SALES, SALES, SALES SALES. And power. POWER and SALES.

Why do they NEVER talk about games? Because it has NO games.

Wii U has plenty of top draw games. PS4 folk only turn their consoles on to load up N4G and play that great old game of Brag About Sales.

It's embarrassing.

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rdgneoz33703d ago

It might not be dead yet, Nintendo has a huge bank to live off of for a while. Though investor's are not gonna like slumping sales. However, it's somewhat discouraging when the WiiU has been out since Nov 2012 and the PS4 since Nov 2013, and the PS4 is beating it in total and weekly sales. The WiiU needs more 3rd party support and to pump out some more quality system sellers to get back into it.

Knushwood Butt3703d ago

Today (Friday) is the 7th day that the PS4 has been on sale.

Chevalier3702d ago

Really your going to complain about the lack of games on a system that has been out 4 months? Now that is just desperation. The PS4 has 3rd party support unlike Wii U and has more games coming out this year then all the Wii U games out. The Wii U has slight bumps in sales every time a new game comes out, but, they are far and in between with most sales from Nintendo 1st party. Where are the 3rd party games? I have sold more PS4 in my store in the last month than all the Wii U sales we had since christmas. Our 1 month of sales more than doubled our whole 1st year sales for Wii U. If that is your idea of good then I really have to ask what your smoking.

It's all about the games you say? Just look at how many exclusives were released on PS3 last year and the GOTY and variety. PSN had more good free games then all the good Wii U games that came out in 2013. Sony has much more 3rd party, indie support and many 1st party studios so let's give it a year first. Funny how you say the article is 4 years too early and call the writer immature yet you can only comment on lack of games when PS4 has been out 4 months! Great logic there. If you bothered to look at all the games coming out this year and compared it's not pretty. Wii U has no major releases into this summer and my preorder list is at a dozen titles whereas PS4 has more than 3x that. Unless you know something I don't I would say prove it? You say lack of numbers? Then where was your proof?!

3-4-53702d ago

These people's BOSS do not hold them accountable for accuracy anymore.

It's all about first instead of most accurate.

Calling something "dead" is the new "cool journalist" thing to do now. haven't you heard.

All the cool people are doing it

Baccra173702d ago

So the truth is childish now, that's good to know.

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Neonridr3704d ago

Pretty sure those who play handhelds will still play handhelds even if they purchase a PS4. The more interesting numbers to watch is if the Vita gains more traction with the new PS4 owners.

3DS will be fine, as long as they still get the Monster Hunters, Pokemons, Animal Crossings, etc.

Benjaminkno3703d ago

Since Nintendo is in better shape than Sony..

I can't take this opinion seriously.

Let me know when Nintendo posts a billion dollar loss.

Vegamyster3703d ago

That and laying off thousands of employees.

KonsoruMasuta3703d ago

It's funn. Nintendo's loss was nowhere near that amount.

Alex_Boro3703d ago

Lol, why are there any disagrees? Some people are butthurt by the truth. SMH.

XisThatKid3703d ago

I mean I really don't care how much most of these people make it's not mine but http://www.gamespot.com/art...
And yea it was 2011 I remembered when this happend. All in all I see your point though.

Vegamyster3703d ago

That was Nintendo's first loss in 30 years and it was a $458 million loss, not $926 million.

XisThatKid3701d ago

yea i know, I seen it in the article I just posted.

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Ck1x3703d ago

The title of this article made me think Nintendo pulled a Sony and canceled a high profile game in development or something... Damn people don't scare me like that!

SegaGamer3703d ago

What is with the daily bashing of Nintendo these days ? it's like people want it to be bad.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.