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PlayStation 4 sold 322,083 units in two days released

According to Famitsu examined, that the domestic sales of PlayStation 4 was released on February 22, 2014 has become the 322,083 units in two days sale is (Period clearly: 22 - February 2014 the 23rd).

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BigFnHooters3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

I would say it is a bit better than not bad. 3rd biggest opening for a console in Japan.

The PS4 was over 5.3 million back on Feb. 8th. The worldwide totals now stand at:

5.3+ million worldwide
322k first two days in Japan
Before Japan the PS4 was selling about 200k a week worldwide. It's been two weeks since the official 5.3+ number from Sony.

That should put the PS4 at 5.3+ million + 322k + 400k to bring it to just over 6 million worldwide. And the PS4 should be just in the 6.3-6.5 million range the first week of March.

LuaMaster3710d ago

Over six million and still in February. Amazing.

I saw someone posting that the PS4 is predicted to hit ten million by May. Thought that sounded a little high. But it looks like with Japan now adding to the worldwide sales for the PS4 that it should be selling about one million a month.

Ten million by May seems reasonable. And twenty million by the end of 2014 for the PS4 might be reached.

IVanSpinal3710d ago

And how many millions of dollars are for you?
XD

gaffyh3710d ago

I think it could have been a lot more if deep down came out at launch.

abzdine3710d ago

inFamous is coming out in a few weeks.

FamilyGuy3710d ago

I was thinking they'd have launched with 500k but seeing as they sold out I guess it was around 350k. Demand will only increase in March with Infamous SS.

allformats3710d ago

Intelligent bubble for you, BiggnHooters. Nice little math there.

vigilante_man3710d ago

Amazing amount for Japan. Great numbers so early in its lifetime.

In Japan a system seems to sell like crazy each time a good game comes out for that platform. They have some amazing sales spikes.

Interesting to see what happens over the next 3-4 weeks in Japan. Now the PS4 can distribute more units across the other countries again for more sales spikes.

Still one thing that bothers me: If the XB1 is being produced at the same rate as the PS4 (as claimed by MS just before release) where are all the unshipped XB1s?

MehmetAlperTR3710d ago

Conguratulations to Sony. Keep going. We want more games from Sony Studios and from others. Especially The Evil Within and Uncharted.

Saigon3710d ago

So in other words, there will be a sale spike in Japan when Metal Gear Releases in a few weeks.

mcarsehat3710d ago

The fact that someone had to try and argue with "not bad" is hilarious.

NewMonday3710d ago

Namco was estimating the PS4 would sell 300k in Japan after a month, but Sony managed to do it in 2 days

at this pace the PS4 will hit 10m in July

Patrick_pk443710d ago

Don't forget that Sony is sending their second shipment and have stated it is running dry already. I can see around 600-1m sold within the week.

scott1823710d ago

Nice, the consumers are speaking with their wallets around the world. It is obvious the PS4 is a great product with great hardware and games, the gamers want it.

miyamoto3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

Told you guys.
Even Sony doesn't know the full potential of the PS4.
Its not even March yet and the PS4 cruised like a missile past over 5 million just like that!

we are so stoked for second son

TheStruggleIsReal3710d ago

Suddenly everybody knows how to do math LOL

But good calculations tho.

starchild3709d ago

Congratulations to Sony. The PS4 is a great system.

mewhy323709d ago

Wow the PS4 is kicking the xbone's rear!!! BANG!!!

darthv723709d ago

Congrats to Sony. The PS4 launch is the 6th best launch weekend in JP gaming history.

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Modi19843710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

no games just ports and not in the holydays .. thats good
i bet it come with NA release its going to be over 500k

wsoutlaw873710d ago

Ya what about the NA release

jjonez183710d ago

Oh I see what you're saying and agree. It did sell well considering it had no must have games, especially in Japan's weakening market. I don't know if Sony would have had enough stock to launch in Japan on the 15th. They barely managed to scrap together 350k ish units for its feb 22 launch.(guessing that's how many they shipped since they sold out recently.)

hkgamer3710d ago

@Jjonez18Japan probably got 350-400k in stock for launch.

It's pretty amazing how Sony have made so many PS4's for launch. Seems like they are maxing out the amount they can make and still selling out. Glad they didn't try to limit stock to create buzz by selling out.

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AngelicIceDiamond3710d ago

Very great early numbers.

Congrats to Sony all the way.

Pogmathoin3709d ago

Nice to see straight forward congrats to Sony, only a few bringing up the other guy, but no bite. Well done Sony.

showtimefolks3710d ago

keep on keeping on

now please announce some more games at GDC, could we also get some news on

shenmue
yakuza 5
yakuza HD collection
Yakuza Ishin

hkgamer3710d ago

Don't think shenmue will ever be made.

tiffac0083710d ago

@show

I love your optimism brother, I wish for the same thing but then realize it's Sega we are talking about here. lol!

Bob Dole3709d ago

Shenmeu 3 will be released the same time as HL3.

Kribwalker3710d ago

How many people in previous post predicted a million sold in opening weekend...countless PSN4g posters, heck I even overshot it at 500k in opening weekend. And stock was still on shelfs. I'd say most pony boys are secretly disapointed at weaker sales then they thought. Beat the Wii U launch by 15k.....

sparta763710d ago

@krib, they sold out of stock. How do you except them to sell more?

AsimLeonheart3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

Yeah, some excited fans predicted a million more in Japan but that was a little too enthusiastic. Japan is the smallest market these days so a more realistic figure was always going to be in that range. Besides it sold more than what the PS3 did and sold out outside of a holiday season so it was definitely a big success. In the end it all comes down to games; there werent any must-have Japanese games. Once Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy and Tales of games start appearing, Japanese gamers will become much more interested.

FamilyGuy3710d ago

500k seemed reasonable but they're currently sold out so everything they had sold regardless of the amount. The number will continue to grow as stock becomes available, no need to raise you troll victory flag just yet. 322k sold in 2 days in Japan while the X1 scraped up a measly 48k for the week in the last *global* hardware sales round up. UK just got an official price cut because MS is so worried.

You should be worried too.

hkgamer3710d ago

They sold out In 3 days. Though I guess they just didn't get enough orders. Retailers must have underestimated the market. If I'm not mistaken, stores have been able to restock in ps4's right?

I'm just wondering how long it will be til ps4s would be seen in retail stores shelves without selling out straight away.

FlunkinMonkey3710d ago

I think you are (not so) secretly disappointed, because the XBone is getting completely demolished worldwide..

Let's not even start on how the XBone, or MS for that matter has done in Japan, right?

Cry More, Sweet Child.

S2Killinit3710d ago

Well you sound like a fanboy yourself, but just to inform you, the sales numbers areactually quite good considering the population of japan. People who predicted higher sales were probably not informed about the size of the market and the general trend of japanese gamers to play more handheld

redknight803710d ago

wow, you seem like you would be a huge douche in real life. Guys, GUYS! Remember that one time you said that one thing...well you were off by a lot! wooohooo you must be disappointed, I am sssooo smart.

BX813710d ago

Yeah wtf? I'm not huge on following console numbers but I swear I saw a mass amount of posts saying 1mil easy for ps4's sold. What a huge let down for them. That's what happens when you get wrapped up in a stupid console battle. Any way I pre ordered the kz bundle and can't wait for it to ship on Friday.

MysticStrummer3709d ago

"Beat the Wii U launch by 15k…"

WiiU did very well at launch and then sales fell off a cliff, like what's happening to another console right now.

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DonDon3710d ago

Definately not bad. It sold FOUR times what PS3 sold in the same timeframe. Looks like we'll be seeing strong japanese support. Whivh means more jrpg's!

ITPython3710d ago

Goodness, and with Infamous coming out in just a few weeks, the PS4 might reach close to 7 million by the end of March. Although supply constraints are pretty much the limiting factor in PS4 sales, so here's hoping Sony manages to bump up production considerably for March when PS4 heavy hitters start to arrive.

Aceman183710d ago

To all the haters who will probably try to spin this into a negative the system is selling in all 3 regions just like PS1, PS2, and PS3 which is important to healthy system growth.

When was the last time Microsoft can say they sell in all 3 regions, and by that I mean US, Europe (not just UK), and Asia?

This was an successful launch in Japan even with the country mostly into moblie gaming.

Magicite3710d ago

Worse result than Nintendo Wii and PS2, but better than anything else.

Evilsnuggle3710d ago

This is great news for Sony fans and RPGS fans . The more PS4 sold in Japan the more japan developers will make new RPGS. Keep up those sales of PS4. 6 millions PS4 sold before the end of February.

danny8183709d ago

No bad considering there was 2 or so games tailored to the japanese market. They really dont buy consoles when it lacks games for them. These numbers are healthy

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Sammy7773710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

so Xbox is done after this. I just hope SONY doesn't become complacent . SONY really needed this boost . This is ps2 era all over . However, no competition is actually bad for industry

BigFnHooters3710d ago

Why did Sony need any boost?

The PS3 has been the top selling console in the world for the past three years or so. And the PS4 before the Japan launch was already the fastest selling console in history.

Once Microsoft dumps the Xbox division Sony will have Nintendo to compete with. That seems like a perfect world for the console market.

Sammy7773710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

SONY needed this since this will cause their share prices to skyrocket. Video Gaming is bigger than other forms of entertainment and just like Apple with iphone/ipad , i expect the ps4 to do the same for Sony.ps3 has been top selling i agree but ps3 caused Sony billions in losses and xbox 360 also sold almost as good as ps3. However, i see this as a runaway hit for ps4.

AngelicIceDiamond3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

@hooters "The PS3 has been the top selling console in the world for the past thre.. wha? They both sold the same.

Once Microsoft dumps the Xbox division Sony will have Nintendo to compete with. That seems like a perfect world for the console market.

Huh!?

That's not at all a perfect world if one out of the three are gone? Whatever the internet is the last place for rational and realistic thinkers.

EDIT: I'll save Hooters post for the future because he just exposed N4G true nature and feelings of this site. Since hes gonna get a million agrees.

So everyone agrees if MS ever goes under taking everything with them then the industry would be a paradise a perfect place with Sony and Nintendo got it.

Vegamyster3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

"Why did Sony need any boost?"

Well to be frank Sony is more then a gaming division, they have other divisions that are bleeding $.

ivan5103710d ago

I doubt microsoft will dump xbox division. And you cant be serious about nintendo competing with sony with the situation there in. Dk:tf only sold 34k copies in japan. Seem pretty good but the last dk game sold 140k copies in japan. Nintendo currently isnt in the competition. which saddens me.

alexkoepp3710d ago

More likely Microsoft buys nintendo than dropping the xbox division

hkgamer3710d ago

Money wise I think MS made more money from 360 then the ps3 did.
360 had Xbox live giving themployees a constant stream of money, 360 was cheapwe to make, Kinect was a success and pretty sure they sold alor more games.

Most mmultiply sold more on 360 and their exclusives sell like mad.

This generation PS4 should be the one in the lead with sales and games sales.

mcstorm3710d ago

@BigFnHooters I have to disagree. If it was not for Microsoft and the 360 sony would not of come into this gen they way they have this time. Sony used the PS3 as there way to win the battle with HD DVD and made a very expansive console and even lied about what there games would look like (Motor Storm).

I am glad Sony are out on top at the moment as it will make Microsoft and Nintendo up there game but I would like to see Microsoft go on top and also Nintendo throughout the gen rather than have one company on top all the way as this will keep all 3 innervating throughout the gen.

For me All 3 consoles are a must own at the moment because of the games that are out now in terms of Mario 3D World. DK, Forza 5, Ryse, KZ and soon to have Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Driverclub and Titanfall.

OCEANGROWNKUSH3709d ago

@hkgamer money wise i think MS blew any profit margin it saw paying out fortunes to Activision, EA and Rockstar for timed exclusives and DLC... got them REAL far didnt it?

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KwietStorm_BLM3710d ago

I think PS3 covered their complacency stage. PS4 is a direct result of that.

iceman063710d ago

I don't think that Sony was complacent with the PS3. I think that they knew full well that $600 was a hard sell to the mass market and it would take time for penetration. (the sprint vs. marathon mentality) They also underestimated the penetration potential of the Xbox and probably weren't too concerned about it's early launch. So, they entered the unfortunate catch 22. Not enough consoles sold to entice the developers and not enough games to entice the mass market...with the high price. Once the price dropped, the PS3 started to sell like they expected. It was a lesson in adapting to a changing market and they applied that to the PS4. They launched first. They kept the power advantage without having some crazy, exotic chip, and most of all they kept it affordable. So, yes, lesson learned.

_FantasmA_3710d ago

Sony wasn't complacent with the PS2, and it had no competition. There were more than 2000 games across 12+ years. Competition is good in other businesses, but not for gaming. Look at the rabid fanboys that M$ created. Fanboys existed with Sega and Nintendo, but it became a disease with Halo and M$. I think Sony would take even more chances with the PS4 if there was no competition. Think about it. They wouldn't need to worry about making any casual or perk-based shooters or anything to counter M$ brobox games. They would be able to just focus on the games, and not about sales or comparisions. Nintendo would do better also because people would buy it as their second console.

SmielmaN3710d ago

I agree with virtually all of this ^^^^^

Aceman183710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

@sammy

Microsoft sells well in only 2 regions US and UK do you think that's enough to lead in a generation?

kayoss3710d ago

Seems to be a trend here:
Super Nintendo was king back then. They then became arrogant. Sony came in with the Playstation and took over some of Nintendo Market. PS2 was released and became a success. Sony became arrogant. This was the same time the Xbox came out too. Xbox 360 became a big hit and Microsoft became arrogant. Now PS4 Is a big hit... I wonder what will happen?

I hope this trend is broken.

SmielmaN3710d ago

Sony was supposed to make components for Nintendo (disc drives for cd games). Then Nintendo pulled out on it in the last minute to stick with cartridges. Then sony made the Playstation. So really Nintendos backtracking caused Sony to release a console.

Years later MS wanted to kill Sony and put them out of gaming so they could own it all. I'm hoping this is the gen we lose MS from gaming. That would be a better gaming future for all judging by how the unveiled the xbone and told everyone to deal with it.

OCEANGROWNKUSH3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

@SmielmaN

Actually theres a bit more to the story...

Sony was developing the CD attachment for the Super Nintendo, and without warning at E3 i believe, Nintendo announced it would be partnering with Philips to make an attachment for the SNES. This angered the people working on the project, and Kaz Hirai pushed for Sony to release their own gaming console, Sony didnt want to get involved in the console business at all at the time, but they eventually released the Playstation and we all know how that went...

So Nintendo eventually realized the Sega CD was tanking and decided to skip the CD attachment all together, this product eventually was released to the market as the Phillips CD-I. To sort of "make it up" to Phillips they allowed them to use Nintendo Ip's which resulted in the horrible horrible games "Hotel Mario" "Zelda: Faces of Evil" "Zelda: Wand of Gamelon" and "Zelda's Adventure" where you actually play as the princess. The whole ordeal ended up costing Philips about a billion dollars when it was all said and done.

cee7733709d ago

@OCEANGROWNKUSH

*Ken kutaragi
Not Kaz Hirai

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majiebeast3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

The only 2 consoles that beat it, were PS2 with 600K around the holidays, and the Wii with 370K also around the holidays.

So i think it did pretty amazing for a non holiday console launch, it beat the wiiU.

ethomaz3710d ago

PS2 was launched in March... first week of March but it is a legend :)

PS4 did amazing considering it is a non-holiday launch (only PS2 did better in perspective)... I guess it could be close to 500k if launched in December like Wii and Wii U.

majiebeast3710d ago

Wow PS2 was just an insane Juggernaut.

hkgamer3710d ago

I think Wii was limited by stock. Could have sold alto more.

Ps2 was only released in Japan so stock wasn't a problem and if I remember right had more Japanese games.

chrisarsenalsavart3710d ago

Ps2 did not launch in March in Japan

ethomaz3710d ago

@chrisarsenalsavart

Check your facts: March 4, 2000.

It was launched close to eight months before US/EU.

Jay70sgamer3710d ago

I disagree with if it released in holiday season it would have sold more ...just as you are saying it would have sold during holiday season.....it would have had to compete with wii u ,3ds,xbox,playstation 3 ,ps vita,wii during holiday season ... so you can easily say some of them sales it received now could have gone to one of the other systems/consoles...so it's a two sided argument ...just saying

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zerog3710d ago

Pretty sure most Japanese aren't Christian. Just don't see how the holiday season would matter much.

GribbleGrunger3710d ago

The holiday season in Japan is when they all get bonuses in their pay.

Death3710d ago

Japan still celebrates the holiday season, just not for the same reasons. The best way to picture Japan in December would be if you think about how badly commercialism has taken over Christmas, multiply it by ten and then subtract Christ.

ethomaz3709d ago

Holidays in Japan show more boost than other countries... it when people go to shops because the end of year bonuses... and the New Year holiday is one of the biggest in Japan for shopping.

ethomaz3709d ago

@Jay70sgamer

Holidays (December) increase the sales of all consoles in Japan... it will be better than now because people there have more money to spend in this period.

Holidays launches are bigger than Feb/Mar... even PS2 could do better if launched in Holiday with more supply (yeap... PS2 sold ~600k in 2 days with supply issues).

Jay70sgamer3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

@ethomaz ...you are not getting the point it is more competition to sell consoles during the Christmas holidays ...so sells could have been less....if you notice all the biggest sales of new consoles was not the holidays .....ps2 I believe was released in japan in march and 3ds was launched in February ...non holiday months and they had the biggest releases to this date so your therory is not accurate.....and people have more money to spend in the off months after January when they catch up on bills .....the second and third console year is usually when they make the most money and sales at Holiday time look it up and see that this assessment is accurate ..just saying @this time of the year ps4 came out when their is no new consoles being released so people can solely focus on one console where as Christmas time people have more deals and sales ...bundles etc from each company .....yes company make their most profit during Christmas time not just because of consoles ...its software .accessories etc ...

FlameHawk3710d ago

I knew it wasn't going to sell like 500k, lol I can't believe people actually thought that. Japanese people aren't a bunch of idiots, they just won't buy a product just because, the PS4 doesn't have any killer RPG games that any Japanese want, games like Yakuza and Dynasty Warriors are on PS3. I know I'm going to get tons of disagrees but whatever.

press-start3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

it sold 322k in two days wait till the week is over they should push 500k by then and 6 million total sales

FlameHawk3710d ago

I don't doubt that by the week but I was talking about the launch weekend, just like the previous launch predictions and sales releases were about 1-2 days.

ITPython3710d ago

The Japan launch sales are pretty much exactly on par with the US sales based on population and consoles sold. The US is 2.4 times more populated than Japan. Multiply 322,083 * 2.4 and that is close to the million that sold here in the US for launch.

So lets see what kind of weekly sales boost the PS4 global numbers will get. The US is selling on average about 150k a week (was much more closer to launch, but has evened out to a nice steady pace now). Apply the ratio of the US launch in relation to the japan launch numbers (about 3:1), means each week the PS4 will sell approximately 50k more due to the additional sales in Japan.

So sales of the PS4 will jump to an average of 200k weekly sales globally. To give an comparison, XB1 is averaging about 50k a week globally. That is a 4:1 ratio in favor of the PS4 in terms of global sales per week.

Dang... PS4 is unstoppable! If Sony can ramp their production up considerably, it will easily break past 15 million by the end of the year while the XB1 will be struggling to hit 6 million.

insomnium23710d ago

@flame

Ummm...didn't Yakuza Ishin release the same day in Japan as PS4? You are bound to get disagrees if your statement is false. People don't agree with false statements.

fenome3710d ago

Dynasty Warriors 8 was a launch title in Japan, it released the same day as the PS4 over there.

FlameHawk3710d ago

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, Dynasty Warriors 8 has been out for almost a year in Japan, and they just released the Xtreme Legends in Japan about 3-4 months. The PS4 version is just a bundle of the original and the Xtreme Legends edition which just has a few extra characters and a few other things.

WeAreLegion3710d ago

Week one predictions have been the norm, ranging from 500,000 to 1,000,000. It should sit comfortably between the two come this weekend.

Ra30303710d ago

Dude...who said Sony was selling 500k in 2 days? One or 2 days does not make a launch. Give it a week or 2. But that's not even important...My friend you called 322,083 or anyone who purchased a Sony gaming machine a "bunch of idiots". What!!! Why do you have so much hate? What's missing in you life to be so angry? Do you just not like the Japanese people? And so far 3 agree votes. Maybe you guys need to find other things in your life. Something is not right here. IMO.

CryofSilence3710d ago

The Japanese mostly game on mobile devices these days.

fenome3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

The point I was making is that BOTH Yakuza Ishin and Dynasty Warriors are on the PS4 over there. You made it sound like they were ONLY on PS3 and not on PS4 and that's not true. I guess it was just how you said it, I misunderstood what you meant.

andro273710d ago

that is right, it actually sold pretty good with what it is offering now. there is no killer game and most of the Japan only PS3 services are not working on PS4 yet. I am in Japan and I bought PS4 but I think I will use PS3 more for a while. Dark Souls II and Persona5 is coming soon, many gamers are more interested in those than PS4.

but still when MGS5 launches with the special bundle in March, we will see big numbers again.

fenome3710d ago

Selection has been limited so far. I'm excited for Infamous next month. MGS5 will definitely get a boost in Japan. Can't wait for this ball to start rolling, there are a lot of good games coming, I just wish they'd hurry up and get here! lol

Glad I still have my PS3 too though, 'cause Dark Souls II is gonna be a beast!

Angeljuice3710d ago

@Flam-ing-Hawk

In Japan during the same period of time;

PS3 = 88,000 sales
PS4 = 322,000 sales

Not bad at all if you ask me.

Salooh3710d ago (Edited 3710d ago )

It's sold out , how do you expect them to buy something doesn't exist in the market ?.

Who are you to call them idiots. My revolution made my people care about each other. Everyone look at his brother as a better person or equal to him, that way no one disrespect each other because if you disrespect someone and then he's killed by the dictator how are you gonna feel ?. You should learn that. You are not better then them.

LKHGFDSA3710d ago

it didn't sell out in japan.

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JMaine5183710d ago

Good Launch! One of the best in Japan.

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rlow113h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos10h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos8h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje8h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia51m ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher45m ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon9h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum11h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola6h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia59m ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing6938m ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad8h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola6h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher44m ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai7h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher44m ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK7h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher43m ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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