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Microsoft: Titanfall Will Set A MP Look/Feel/Gameplay Bar So High, It'll Take A Long Time To Match

Microsoft: Titanfall Will Set A MP Look/Feel/Gameplay Bar So High, It'll Take A Long Time To Match.

ShugaCane3724d ago

Destiny looks way more interesting to me. And I say "looks", because obviously I didn't play either of them, so the hell I know ? But I'm much more attracted to Destiny's universe than that of TF, which TO ME, "looks" like COD with mechas.

AceBlazer133724d ago

Sad that you have to stress on the 'looks' to avoid being attacked from certain individuals.

Completely agree though, TF looks so basic. Destiny looks like it has more potential.

ShugaCane3724d ago

I'll be attacked anyway lol. But yes, you summed it up. Destiny has more soul and personality, based on the trailers. It's an online game, but developers cared to build a world from scratch, with its lore.

ZodTheRipper3724d ago

Of course MS needs to hype them but these guys came up with CoD so ...yeah.
Can't wait for Destiny though, RPG >>> FPS.

Aggesan3724d ago

+1

I have a PC that's slightly less powerful than my PS4 and slightly more powerful than the Xbox One. I still doubt I'll be playing Titanfall though. Never cared for CoD or CoD clones because of their cramped environments and twitch based gameplay.

lolCHILLbro3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

Basic is what made COD4 so good though, then all those perks and that messed up COD, these guys made COD4 and it will be a good MP game

OrangePowerz3724d ago

@Zod

Yes they came up with CoD bit that was already a carbon copy of MoH games they made previously.

Gazondaily3724d ago

Titanfall is a competitive arena based fps though so I don't know why you guys are drawing comparisons with Destiny, which is more of a mmo/ explorative co-op experience.

Titanfall's direct competitors are the likes of COD, Battlefield, Halo etc. In that regard, it might just be the best in its class.

Destiny is in a whole different class really. In fact, youre probably better off comparing Destiny to The Division even if it is a TPS.

4Sh0w3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

Destiny will surely be great, I'll get both of these on my Xbox One. Excuse me though if I see a a whole lot of envy from sony guys hidden behind typical "I dont care about Titanfall" type posts. I didn't care about KZ SF so you won't find me following the game trying to downplay any good press. So really I'll just take the comments from the usual suspects above or below with a huge grain of salt, pfft now trying to promote a multiplat game on a Titanfall thread they never miss an opportunity, its clearly in their nature to always be so negative about anything xbox related and wave pom poms whenever a sony drops a average screenshot of any ps4 exclusive.

If preorder sales hold true Xbox One version is killing pc and 360. 360 will sell given the huge fanbase but the fact it's not being directly dev'd by Respawn and a bit delayed hurts it. As for pc truth is despite some always trying to hype pc versions, history shows the pc versions always sell considerably less than its xbox countetpart making Xbox One version literally where most gamers will be getting their Titanfall fix from daily. Titanfall definitely "looks" like alot of fun and to add there has been awards and a avalanche of PRAISE FROM MEDIA AND TONS OF GAMES WHO HAVE ACTUALLY PLAYED TITANFALL vs Destiny who is a ways off and hasn't had hands on or very much shown of the games.

DeadlyFire3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

I have to agree. Destiny does look more like a real game people can get into. Titanfall's only appeal is CoD + Vertical + Botkillstreak mech drop. Not saying that is all bad though CoD has long held the crown over Quake for top Arena FPS shooter. I personally get tired of Arena FPS games, but even Battlefield wants to have some arena combat in its games with smaller game types, and maps. I like Open range maps like what Halo has offered in past titles. Destiny may be MMOFPS with a story element, but even Planetside 2 has some arena combat plans. Go here @3:19 = Competitive multiplayer is in Destiny. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I believe honestly alot of sleeper FPS titles could innovate multiplayer as well. We still don't have a clear picture of everything that is releasing in 2014 just yet.

GTgamer3724d ago

I dare anyone to look at TF and take out the mechs and the people running on walls and tell me what TF looks and plays like and its not even funny how the game is basically COD and you all know this So I don't see it setting a Bar in my opinion.

dedicatedtogamers3724d ago

Please stop with all of the artificial hype. My goodness. If Titanfall is so dang good, then it will prove itself. The more I hear about this game, the less excited I become because so much of the hype feels manufactured.

I think Titanfall looks okay. But what does it do better than its competitors? I'm sure it will be a well-polished game, but the constant praising it as the Second Coming is beyond silly. If this game was coming to PS3 and 360 and PC (and wasn't being used as a next-gen "system seller" ) I guarantee you the hype would be 1/10th what it is right now.

OrangePowerz3724d ago

@4show

Why do you think the 360 version is delayed in the first place? I don't buy it that they need to polish the game on the 360 and that's the cause of the delay. I think they delayed it because the rumours that it's not far of the X1 version are true and they just want to sell more consoles.

MysticStrummer3724d ago

I don't know what they mean by "look" but that old engine won't be setting any graphical bars, and the gameplay/feel appears to be sci fi CoD so there's not much bar setting going on in those categories either. I'm sure the game will be fun for CoD fans, which is a lot of people after all so it will be successful across three platforms, but MS is just in PR mode here.

UncleGermrod3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

basic yes, but i think it could be just enough to shake up a winning formula. all the gameplay i see looks so fluid and it just seems like a really fun game.

destiny deff has my interest as well...it seems a lot like halo, but the way you interact with the world is a much more ambitious idea.

truefan13724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

Who are we kidding here this is n4g, nothing positive about XB1 can be said without being downplayed in some way. I guarantee if Destiny was an XB1 exclusive it would be called Halo on another planet, the same way Titanfall was called COD with Mechs after the announcement of it being a Microsoft exclusive. PS bringing Destiny up doesn't hurt XB1 fans, because we will be able to play both. Titanfall will be great and you all need to get over your jealousy, you all supposedly have gaming pc's anyway right. Lol this is an article about Titanfall and all the ps4 fans brought up Destiny, it's getting pathetic.

Sayai jin3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@Dedicated - Artificial hype? You could throw that connotation on any game that has a lot of positive news. MS seems excited, but where/who did the majority of good press about this game come from? During E3 where it took home many awards.. Also, the majority of people who have played the game have rave reviews and are super excited for this game. Why is it a bad thing if a company is happy about an upcoming game and there excited about the potential.

Those of us who have not played it do not know how it will turn out, but from the looks of everything and the reviews from those who play it; it seems like it will be a very good game. How it will do against it's competitors? Not sure and I could care less. I never worried about that kind of stuff. I'll leave that to the companies that develop games and make console. I never thought how will a Mario game compete against the next Sonic, Halo vs KZ, etc.

Also, thats what companies do...promote (hype if you want) their games especially there big games. It's a double edge sword to. Because if you heavily promote a game and it does not do well...then you know what happens.

On topic, I'm looking forward to this game and hope to get into the beta. I've look at most of the videos and I like what I see.

Kryptix3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

Titanfall does have a lot potential to break down many barriers. Hopefully it brings a lot of innovation with it's formula to let it top CoD and raise that bar. It does look like another CoD with mechs but at the same time, it's good for competition as it's doing something CoD developers never had the balls to do...which is to expand and really change the battlefield. Hope that it gives new ideas like for example having a great leveling system like CoD4 did with unlocking weapons and perks, setting a bar there for multiplayer in shooters.

As for Destiny, I prefer it because of it's universe, style, and co-op and not sure how PvP will work out but I'm sure it's going to be like Halo with more complex mechanics. They're separate games but I did say it before, rather pick Destiny because it's raising a bar, too in many ways. It's pretty much Bungie's talent going all out, not being tied to just Halo but rather creating a larger world centered for you, the player.

Giul_Xainx3724d ago

Looks like they just hired a new pr person. Get ready for an onslaught of jumbled words thay prick the senses. Causisng confusion is this pr persons specialty.

alexkoepp3723d ago

Lost faith in bungie after ODST and halo reach. Luckily 343 has been doing great with halo so far. I'm skeptical how destiny will turn out.

supersonicjerry3723d ago

@septic Titan fall is not competitive. its more of a casual shooter.

scott1823723d ago

A game with so many bots as opponents is not competitive, is it?

That's really my only complaint.

NumOnePS3FanBoy3723d ago

lol so much delusion in that title

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AngelicIceDiamond3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

Well I'll be playing both so I won't be missing out.

But I respect your opinion.

Just because others are jumping on board doesn't mean you have to.

Or its not criminal if you don't like it.

I just wish people on this site were mature enough to say the same thing when its a PlayStation game though.

Like I said I'll be playing both but I'll gettin my Titanfall on when its released.

capjacksparrow3724d ago

I can afford an Xbox One, but I refuse to buy it because of Microsoft's business practices. That being said, Titanfall looks fantastic, and I'll be getting it on my PC! I am looking forward to Destiny also, but that will be for PS4 and my friends list.

ZodTheRipper3724d ago

^Same situation for me. And to be completely honest, I wouldn't mind missing out on Titanfall. It's rather a "good-to-have" than a "must-have" for me.

MasterCornholio3724d ago

@jacksparrow

I'm in the same boat as you. Destiny interests me more than Titanfall and currently I'm planning on building a 500$ gaming PC. With that configuration if I'm interested in playing Titanfall I can do so without buying an Xbox One. But I'm more interested in building this PC for MMOs.

lolCHILLbro3724d ago

@carpack didnt you get the memo? they reversed all those so called "business practices" which would of still had you buying games and online like you do today

Aces173724d ago

I agree. I'm also more excited for Destiny, but Titanfall will still be great. Calling it CoD with mechs is like calling Destiny an open word Halo it does neither game justice.

jetlian3723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

Man n4g is in a sad state. Titanfall is gonna be tight. Destiny has nothing to do with it. Get both if you can/want but the crying needs to stop.

As for over hype try "the order 1886"

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christocolus3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@sugarcane

The fact that you and others have to drag destiny into an article that has nothing to do with destiny says alot about the type of gamers you are. You guys do it all the time. Does titanfall annoy you? You have the option to skip buying it so pls stop with the hate. First it was cod with mechs, the clouds, 6 vs 6, crap ai, 720p,its also on 360 and pc, ill just get it on my pc and now its destiny looks way better....wth? Give it a rest guys.if you dont like it then move on.

Titanfall may look like cod with mechs to you but it doesnt make it less fun.its great to play, confirmed by hundreds who have actually played it and a winner of so many awards already..people love this game, and i actualy believe its going to set a multiplayer standard, so pls do refrain from stealth trolling.

Pls stick to the topic and make n4g a happier place for all gamers.

4ShotKing3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

I don't know why Playstation fans or Titanfall haters always bring up Destiny? Destiny isn't exclusive to the PS4, nor the XB1, it's on current-gen as well, there are no bragging rights to be held bragging about a "MULTIPLATFORM" game on MS and PS platforms.

MasterCornholio3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@4shotking
"there are no bragging rights to be held bragging about a "MULTIPLATFORM" game on MS and PS platforms."

Only three things can be bragged about a multiplat.

1. If it runs better on one system than the other.
2. If one version has exclusive content and the other does not.
3. If one version gets DLC before another version.

I'm just speaking in general terms here but besides that I agree with you.

NewMonday3724d ago

the twitter comment is calming TitanFall will be better than other MP FPS games, many gamers don't agree and give the opinion Destiny is more interesting.

ShugaCane3724d ago

@christocolus

The topic is about a guy basically saying that TitanFall will set a benchmark in Online FPS. I don't see why this is off-topic to mention another very popular game in the same genre.

@4ShotKing

Destiny is not a PS4 exclusive, yes. So how am I being a PS fan here ? Your argumentation doesn't make much sense here.

BG115793724d ago

@4ShootKing, and TF is on Xbone, 360 and PC...
What's your point?

pompombrum3724d ago

This article has everything to do with Destiny though.. I'm not a Titanfall hater nor a PS fanboy but Microsoft mentioned setting the bar so high it won't be matched for a while.. obviously it was meant as hype but that leaves itself wide open to be compared to pretty much every MP game in production. Destiny stands out as the MP game many people are excited for and a breath of fresh air in a somewhat stagnant genre so it's only natural it would get mentioned in an article like this.

Farmassy3723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

Hey guys what do you know? Who would have guessed that Newmonday is in a titanfall article with the sole purpose of downplaying the game?

Its getting pathetic. It is going to be a great game so you should just get over it. For someone who isn't interested in titanfall you sure do look at a lot of articles about it and write a lot of comments.

Why do you keep doing it? Do you hate yourself? You have given yourself a life where you need to actively seek out and disagree with something simply because you will not have it. It is honestly very sad

Don't be jelly mmkay?

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Edsword3724d ago

These kind of statements are typically not good PR moves. MS should be more reserved because even if Titanfall is a great game, these kind of statements can make the hype a whole other entity of its own. The idealized Titanfall and the realized Titanfall might meet MS expectation, but it might not meet the expectations of the gamer that buys into all the hype expecting something that is well beyond something they have ever experienced before. Let's be realistic, it is still on a screen, requires a controller to play, and involves attempting to kill AI or Human players in a large, albeit set parameter arena. I don't think its possible for it to be so good that it will take a long time to match. That is just MSBS.

N2NOther3724d ago

Let's put it this way. Has there been a game that has matched Call of Duty in terms of success or influence? Nope. Like it or not, Call of Duty set a bench mark for online MP and has influenced tons of games after it and yet none of the games it has influenced has matched it.

Take any hate of the franchise out of the equation and this is undeniably true.

Titanfall is expected to be the next game to do this.

mediate-this3723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

@edswrd

there is nothing but praise about this game. Its been shown gameplay dayone, it has got an alpha testing phase, we are getting a beta. Everyone loves it.

there are games im more concerned for that have been hyped to no end. with zero game play at all.

But one side of n4g blindly follows that false hype, and that game could be a dud

dcj05243724d ago

Nobody has matched WARHAWK or MAG yet so when will that bar be reached?

kingduqc3723d ago

Mag was garbage, warhawk was a good game but forgetable.

Sayai jin3724d ago

Whats funny is that people are on this article comparing it to Destiny. Why Destiny?

UnHoly_One3724d ago

I don't understand why everyone keeps bringing up Destiny, either.

They aren't even really the same kind of game.

It's like comparing Halo to Borderlands.

I know Destiny is going to have some dedicated PvP stuff, but it's main focus is basically being like an MMO.

I just don't get the comparisons. Especially because anyone with a PC, XB1, or 360 will likely get both games anyway.

Hicken3724d ago

Probably has something to do with the claim of it being far superior to every other multiplayer game coming out, which includes Destiny.

People are countering that Destiny had their interest more. Regardless of the specific type of game, this statement tales a shoot at multiplayer, period. Does it not make sense for someone to being up other multiplayer games? It's not even a comparison, directly. Just an opinion on which seems more interesting.

TheKayle13724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@shugacane

in fact u have no idea of what games are u talking about...

u mixing oranges to apples...

destiny mmo ..co op persistent world...with raid bosses

http://destiny.wikia.com/wi...

titanfall competitive multiplayers arenas...

so how can both games look to u dosnt really matter coz TO U..they can look as everything u want coz u didnt understand how both games works

if u need to make the first post just to beat down some ms exclusive...just do it with a brain...

coz in this way u win just bubble down for trolling

ps. to the artificial hype..
everyone in the industry that playe dand seen titanfall been excited from the day one....so pls ...if ui dont want play and wanna play other games...just do it ..without trying to change the reality

pss. destiny come to the xb1,ps4,wii u, and maybe to pc

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

and im already telling u if is true that come also on pc ..this isnt a remake of an old console game..like tomb raider was....that they had to put NICER things on the video to make ppl buy the game again...
destiny is being developed knowing already all the platforms..and will take advantage of them
so IF IS TRUE THAT IT COME is 100% sure that the best version of Destiny will be on pc ...

ssj273723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

Competitive? But it has bots in it for easy kills.

You and me have a huge difference into what's competitive.

Killing mindless bots and been able to be vip by doing so is far from competitive as it can be.

3-4-53724d ago

Destiny has me much more excited but Titanfall releasing can ONLY be a good thing for the industry.

Doesn't matter what companie makes it, the FPS genre needs a bit of a shake up.

I like Dev's that are trying something different.

They risk failing, but at least they have the nuggets to try.

Most likely not getting a XB1, but I hope this sells really well.

Jaces3724d ago

Still don't like the bots as filler. If I wanted to fight bots I'd play a single player campaign.

ITPython3723d ago

The bots are there to make it easier for people to get kills. They are designed to be cannon fodder so people feel good about themselves and think they are really good players.

Respawn knows that the majority of COD players enjoy free and easy kills, and this is their attempt at stepping that idea up a notch.

bjmartynhak3724d ago

Destiny is different type of MP.

Titanfall may set the bar for arcade/fast-paced shooters. That's it.

But yeah, Destiny will be big. Shame that I don't enjoy co-op focused games so much. Warframe and Borderlands for example were a miss for me.

Magicite3724d ago

''Microsoft: Titanfall Will Set A MP Look/Feel/Gameplay Bar So High, It'll Take A Long Time To Match'' - empty talks.

Spenok3723d ago

I agree with this sentiment exactly.

Not only that but the Hype MS is putting on TitanFall with this statement is pretty much just setting it up for failure....

WillM173723d ago

This game is just a crap.

ITPython3723d ago

Obviously MS is going to hype this game to hell and back. I bet that either slightly before, or after Titanfall releases, we are going to see nearly every bag of chips, soda can/bottle, and fast food place flooded with "Win an XB1 and/or Titanfall!" giveaways.

This will accomplish 3 goals for MS:

1. This essentially advertises the heck out of the game. Anybody who eats chips, drinks sodas, or likes McDonalds, will become very aware of Titanfall.

2. All the consoles and copies of TF they give away, they count as sales. Padding their numbers significantly.

3. With those padded numbers, MS will use it as ammo to show the world that despite heavy hitting games coming out on the PS4 in the same month as Titanfall, the XB1 managed to 'keep up'. Giving the illusion that the console is successful and doing well.

Might seem far fetched, but come on, this s MS, we know they are capable of doing whatever it takes to convince the world that the XB1 is the right choice. And I mean WHATEVER it takes.

mediate-this3723d ago

TACOBELL gave away free playstation 4 systems for FREE. Did I mention they were giving away for FREE

ITPython3722d ago (Edited 3722d ago )

Yeah, they had that one giveaway. But the difference between Sony and MS is that Sony doesn't need to pad their numbers and has the integrity not to do so. Unlike MS, who has proved time and again that they have no ethical or legal boundaries when it comes to getting their way.

Sony had the taco bell giveaway to let people get a PS4 before it was released, which was pretty awesome of them! MS only had the giveaways to pad their numbers for November and December to make it appear as if the XB1 was 'competing' during the holiday season. And I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all, of the ones winning these giveaways were actually MS employees who put the consoles back on the market and counted it as two sales.

Nothing is beyond MS at this point, they are as low as a company can go in terms of sleaziness, lies, and deception. They took a page right out of the current US administrations book because they saw how well it was working, and figured they could apply the same tactic.

Luckily the gamers aren't quite buying into it as much as MS hoped, but every legitimate XB1 sold proves that it is working to some extent.

ZombieKiller3723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

I'll be the judge of that Respawn. This and Destiny (later) are up there on my list.

That's after Metal Gear though. I need to clear my damn schedule. March looks like November, as far as me buying games this year

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3723d ago

Of course a game on both consoles looks more interesting than an Xbox exclusive. Of course now the Sony fan likes and can't wait for a Bungie game.

I wonder why that is.

Docknoss3723d ago

Huh... What? I don't understand the comparison? Maybe exclusive vs exclusive or MMO vs MMO. Not a Exclusive vs multiplatform or MMO vs FPS.

beereal3603723d ago

Destiny looks good but titan fall looks funner. I'm buying both u should to.

DonFreezer3723d ago

Why do I have a feeling that you base your opinion on the fact that ps4 won't be getting Titanfall. Almost all of the people agreeing with you try to downplay Titanfall in order to cover up the fact that it's not coming to the ps4 as the reason they think Destiny will be better.

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Thatguy-3103724d ago

it plays just like COD. Just throw in Mechs and parkour

Kayant3724d ago

Agreed but what makes it difference is the you will be using those so often it won't feel/play like COD based on the leaked videos. Which is not a bad thing IMO it will be good for people to try something a but different from the usual run and gun.

But yh if you just stay on the ground then the interface/feel is quite COD-like.

N2NOther3724d ago

The mechs and parkour would mean that it doesn't play just like COD though, wouldn't it?

MorePowerOfGreen3723d ago

Yeah escaping Mechs and using them plus flying around with jetpacks and moving around like the girl in Mirror's Edge plays like COD. SMH

ZombieKiller3723d ago

So you're telling me you didn't see even a bit of Call of Duty in the gameplay trailers?

Put away the sarcasm, it's probably why you have 1 bubble. He was saying the movement and gun play look similar not the parkour and mechs. Helen fncking Keller could see what the guy meant...and he's right. It does. Only it looks more refined and way better than any COD game.

WeaseL3724d ago

Microsoft need to be careful on setting the bar to high for this game because "IF" it fails it could be disastrous for there image.

Tedakin3724d ago

I think those record breaking 75 best of E3 awards set the bar high for them.

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mochachino3724d ago

nothing about it looks revolutionary perhaps it's an amazing refinement of existing gameplay at best but in no way is it changing the genre.

TKCMuzzer3724d ago

Microsoft need to understand a lot of people will go by they watch and not what they play. If Microsoft want to attract sales for the Xbox one it has to look like it does something completely different.
At the moment it just looks good and even by the few videos it's quite obvious that Respawn did't want to venture to far from their rooted control scheme.
I like the look of the game but when your on foot it does control like COD which can be clearly seen.
I was kind of expecting a bit more weight to the controls judging by subject of the game, I was also expecting a lot of destruction in the environments also due to the subject matter but like COD there seems to be little of that.
Don't get me wrong I would probably buy it if I had an Xbox one but I won't buy a console for it, a few 360 owners will be attracted.
Like others say when I watch Destiny and 'The Division' I'm far more interested as their multiplayer aspects look far more appealing and offer a greater depth.
Titanfall will succeed but like Activision, EA won't be able to resist bleeding it to death and there will be another game right around the corner, year on year.
I kind of wish EA were not the publishers, not only for the benefit of the 'IP' but for the benefit of the gamers as well....

KennersEd3724d ago

A Call of Duty clone with mechs and freerunning isn't anything special and won't set any bars ......

KiLLUMiNATi_893724d ago

Can't be a clone if they created the cod that started the success journey ! Theses people aren't rookies at making great multiplayer games, they know what they doing. So let us wait and see that's all we can do

Off topic isn't the beta coming up very soon?

SCW19823724d ago

Not to mention padding peoples kill count with dumb ass AI

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2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer

Xbox has been lagging behind PlayStation in terms of 1st party content, but 2024 offers the platform and Phil Spencer a chance at redemption.

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isarai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Nah, that time has passed for many, and with their words on future plans, i really don't see it ever happening.

shinoff218314d ago

It's a wrap. Now is the time they are slowly going to move on as to not to kill the base as is. Titles will slowly drip onto ps and Nintendo consoles, etc. Those 4 already had to of been in development for awhile already cause two of them released really soon after the announcement

VenomUK14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

There is no ‘last chance redemption’ for Phil Spencer - he’s going straight to hell for tanking the Xbox console platform.

_SilverHawk_14d ago

"2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer"

I thought that was supposed to be a decade ago

Ironmike14d ago

U do rel7se ps5 is at thr moment only getting g those titles that were mentioned nothing else as of yet

Obscure_Observer14d ago

"Nah, that time has passed for many, and with their words on future plans, i really don't see it ever happening."

Xbox has PLENTY of first party games this year while Playstation has none!

There´s more first party games from Xbox Games Studios on PS5 this year than Playstation Studios own games.

Those are the *facts* and if those facts is not something to Sony be ashamed of, they can´t feel shame at all.

VersusDMC14d ago

Granblue Fantasy versus, FF7REBIRTH, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade will have launched on PS5 and not on Xbox by the time Hellblade 2 launches.

This only first party games count is cope.

And as a bonus meme...Microsoft will have published 3 first party games on PS5 (Hifi rush, Grounded and sea of thieves) before their first for the year on Xbox(hellblade 2). Glad they have their priorities straight...

lodossrage14d ago

It's funny when people like to say xbox has more games coming to playstation this year than sony does.

YET, they leave out the context that Microsoft literally bought the biggest (Activision) third party publisher and Bethesday (another big one). So congrats on having to buy giants in order to compete?

On topic, wasn't Starfield the "last chance" for redemption?

Am I to assume that if the games they have coming this year don't get positive, feedback then 2025 will be the year of redemption?

Obscure_Observer14d ago

@VersusDMC

"Granblue Fantasy versus, FF7REBIRTH, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade will have launched on PS5 and not on Xbox by the time Hellblade 2 launches."

None of the games you mentioned are first party. None. There´re more Xbox first party games on PS5 this year then Playstation´s own first party games, undeniable fact!

The real bonus meme is Sea of Thieves a game which PS fanboys used to sh!t on

"And as a bonus meme...Microsoft will have published 3 first party games on PS5 (Hifi rush, Grounded and sea of thieves) before their first for the year on Xbox(hellblade 2). Glad they have their priorities straight..."

Imo, the real meme is Sea of Thieves, a 6 year Xbox first party game which diehard fanboys used to mock and sh!t on, making to the top of the most pre-ordered game at PS Store in a year where Playstation has zero first party games.

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Markusb3314d ago

and all will end up on playstation, and nintendo, if xbox was doing amazing they would not need ps or nintendo, if gp was amazing they wouldnt need pc. PS has multiple first party games in development that we dont know about. Look at how halo was treated, look at redfall, and look at starfield. Its fine to be loyal and prefer one platoform but to be wilfully ignorant about it just ridiculas.

badz14914d ago

LOL se we are moving from "exclusives" to "console exclusives" to now only "1st party exclusives" matters just after MS has bought 2 publishers for $77B??

Moving goalpost to always favor MS i. Your argument is getting tiring! Exclusives are exclusives! 1st or 3rd party, they are still exclusives. You do remember the PS2 literally killed the Dreamcast, Gamecube and the first xbox due to mostly 3rd party exclusives, right?

InUrFoxHole14d ago

Observe is actually correct. Sony paid to play. But we don't mention when they do it. When they do it we're totally cool with it. N4G 4lyfe!

Skuletor14d ago

Are they still counted as first party though?

fr0sty14d ago

“This notion that Xbox can only be this one device that plugs into a television isn’t something we see in the Gen Z research. Because nothing else is like that for them.

Some of them will have an iPhone, some will have an Android, but all the games and everything is the same. I can still get to TikTok on both of them, at least for now." - Phil Spencer

Read it and weep... all Xbox games are coming to as many platforms as they can put them on, and this is the first step towards them getting out of hardware entirely, just like Sega did.

Xbox has been Dreamcast out of the industry. You can deny it all you like, but it's happening.

northpaws14d ago

@Obscure_Observer

You certainly have more faith in Xbox than Phil Spencer does, I will give you that.

rpvenom14d ago

It's actually quite impressive watching you defend xbox. I respect the loyalty

wiz719114d ago

@VersusDMC here yall Sony fans go moving the goalpost again lol now this only first party things is a cope when yall was the one who started that crap in the first place. When Sony had all the first party games and Xbox was relying on third party , yall was shouting they had no first party games. Now the tables turn and suddenly it’s a cope. lol

wiz719114d ago

@lodossrage and so it’s also funny that the majority of Xbox first party games this year aren’t coming from any of those big studios lol except for Indy .. the biggest one this year is coming from a studio that Sony left and almost let that studio die after releasing two big exclusives on their console first. Now MS swoop in and saved them , then here they are with the best looking game this generation. Now that’s ironic , but you mention buying studios like Sony biggest studios weren’t BOUGHT my brother.

Yall need to be more worried about Sony closing studio after studio , the PSVR 2 dying , Sony losing billions , and the fact that yall biggest game this year as in Stellar Blade was once being developed as a multi platform game until Sony paid for them to be a second party studio. lol but you want to mention things being bought , your delusional

Crows9014d ago

Shame in the competitor buying up tons of dev teams in order to make that a reality? Yeah...there's no shame in that on the PlayStation side....

andy8514d ago

So now you're shifting the goal posts so only first party exclusives count. Amazing 😂

Profchaos14d ago

There's probably tons of games exclusive to Xbox that won't be on PS because of their early access clause.

However list the games that count helldivers 2 I'd argue has done more for gaming this year than any other title will.
It could be their only game and it would still be a great year because it was that unexpectedly good even haters of love service games are playing it

TheTony31614d ago

Still at it? Doesn't matter at this point. The games will eventually launch on PS5.

mkis00714d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I see you ignored his" only first party games count" line as if preordained. Is it on xbox? No...then it is ammunition. Meanwhile sony gets to passively soak up 30% of all ms game studios sales.

1Victor14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@obscured: “There´s more first party games from Xbox Games Studios on PS5 this year than Playstation Studios own games.

Those are the *facts* and if those facts is not something to Sony be ashamed of, they can´t feel shame at all.”
That says more about Xbox than PlayStation that they have to release games on rival consoles to stay afloat, Microsoft and YOU SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT FACT.

Edit After thought: it took Microsoft 6 years to finally fix their sea of bugs just in time to release it on PlayStation 🤷🏿

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

On topic:
MS’s last chance was Starfield…
How many last chances are there?

@Osbscure
You’re moving the goal posts into places that have no basis in reality anymore.

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darthv7214d ago

Life is too short to hold onto grudges. Grudges against a console, game or company is just petty.

isarai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Has nothing to do with a grudge. Ive been waiting 12yrs for them to get back to their greatness, im done waiting and have moved onto just watching that ship sink as i play on literally every other platform

darthv7214d ago

^^... I still play on it, as well as the other platforms. Which is why I am not someone who dwells on the negativity like others do. there is always something for me to enjoy in this hobby.

isarai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@darth

Again, not dwelling on negativity, they legit haven't made anything i want to play since like gears 3 and halo reach. I did play Crackdown 3 and gears 5 cause i had hope given i was a huge fan of the older games, but that was a dud on both cases.

You're thinking it's way deeper than it is 🤣 make something worth playing and ill play it, i was hoping starfield would be that but again, dud.

darthv7214d ago

^^...I never said YOU were doing that... but its obvious others (here) do. Its all they seem to do is dwell on negativity, especially if its XB related. all im saying is there is more to enjoy than there is to complain about. And this is exactly why I play all the platforms instead of just one. You say you do the same... so just enjoy it.

neomahi14d ago

It's fanbots making their last stand in an attempt to save the Xbox, what more can one expect that the most optimism they've ever had. Xbox can't get a lock in Japan, still, and Europe is about to abandon it as well. What're you gonna do? And what happens IF Japanese generates interest? They'll see Europe losing interest and decide it's not worth it either. And it's not just Xbox, Microsoft as a whole is losing their footing. They've backed on subscriptions with everything they have to offer and it's tanking. Xbox needs to port to PlayStation and Nintendo while they can stay relevant and try to stay relevant, the longer they delay, we could see a complete Microsoft nose dive

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

And you think MS fans are just dandy? Besides, is it a grudge if MS continues to give reasons for people to despise them?

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Markusb3314d ago

when you cant make enough from your own platform and pc and you have to go to ps and nintendo you know its a slow transition to 3rd party publishing, and that is fine. Xb never had the thurst or ambition after the 360

JackBNimble14d ago

The second they decided to put exclusives on the ps5 they blew any chance of redemption

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-Foxtrot14d ago

Even if they managed to get a win this year it dosent overthrow 10 years of mostly disappointments from Phil’s leadership.

RaidenBlack14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Then this way, no company can redeem themselves. The very concept of redemption arc becomes impossible if the past is refused to be forgiven, even if the company manages to better themselves.
Then the now popular redemption arc of No Mans Sky or Phantom Liberty wouldn't exist in the gaming community if the same logic is also applied there.
Not defending anyone here but I want gaming to improve, companies to better themselves and most importantly competition to exist so that we get offered the best products to enjoy.
(I know in typical N4G fashion, this comment will be downvoted to oblivion, but I want good games offered from every studios irrespective of publishers.)

staticall14d ago

@RaidenBlack
IMO, what @-Foxtrot means, one years doesn't mean much. It's a start, yes, but they need more, much more.

Look at your own example, No Mans Sky - they didn't just release one patch and everyone started praising them, no. They've been doing this consistently. If Microsoft will start releasing good games consistently, that'll be great, no ifs and/or buts! But hyping them up in advance (no worthy releases yet is what i mean) - dunno, i might be wrong, but i don't think it's healthy or helps anyone.

rippermcrip14d ago

Your analogies are terrible. A company releasing a single game that failed to meet expectations.

Isn't the same as Phil Spencer making mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake, telling lie after lie after lie after lie for 10+ years.

isarai14d ago

Your whole comparison makes no sense. It literally took years for both of those to "redeem" themselves in the container of a single game. MS has been lacking for 12yrs starting with the halo/gears/forza criticism begining in the latter half of the 360. So even by YOUR logic, he's right, it's gonna take a lot more than one game to be redeemed ESPECIALLY after fumbling what many were already holding as their chance at redemption with starfield

Chevalier14d ago

It's not Playstation or Nintendos fault that Xbox poses no competition. They've had more support and more money behind them than Playstation and Nintendo combined!

You say you aren't defending Xbox, but, you kind of are. Xbox has been completely mediocre for decades. The last time Xbox was competitive was the 360 era. My 360 collection absolutely demolishes my Xbox One collection and so far Series X hasn't had much reason for me to jump to a purchase.

Can you honestly say Xbox is 'competitive'?! I would say not even close.

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Silly Mammo14d ago

With the gaming media, Xbox is always just one game away from redemption and success. It's willful ignorance that they think there's a 'magic bullet' that will somehow erase all the moves by Phil & the gang of the last 2 console generations.

"Well there's always next year!" Should be the official Xbox slogan

Chocoburger13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

100% this Mammo!

They've been screwing up for over a decade! Even if they release a game that's of the highest quality, that's nothing in the grand scheme things.

It also doesn't un-do Kinect (with lies based advertising).

Or Kinect 2 (forcing people to spend $100 extra for something they didn't even want!).

Or releasing two consoles with nothing noteworthy twice in a row (One X, Series S|X).

Or releasing unpolished games such as Re:Core, Sea of Thieves, Halo: MCC, Halo Infinite, Redfall, and Starfield.

Let's not forget canceling games as well such as Scalebound,Project Spark, and the Phantom Dust remake.

Finally let's remember the broken promises of vaporware games, languishing in development Hell, such as Perfect Dark, Fable, Everwild, what else am I forgetting?

Redemption is far far FAR AWAY for Microsoft. It'll take a full decade of only making smart pro-consumer decisions and releasing plenty of amazing games in order to make up for it all.

2024? It ain't gonna do squat on its own.

Rols14d ago

It was the same old story in 2020, 2021,2022 and 2023. XBox has never delivered this gen.

Brazz14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Xbox360, the last time they delivered the goods, over 10 years Ago.

Skuletor14d ago

This headline just reminds me of the "wait 'til E3" comments we'd hear every year, before it was cancelled.

LG_Fox_Brazil14d ago

I wonder if the 2025's version of this article is already written, probably I would say

lodossrage14d ago

That's the same point I was trying to convey when I replied to Obscure

Hofstaderman14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

#wait till e3 2024

Aloymetal14d ago

''2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer''
We've been hearing and reading the same crap since the xbone launch, these shills/journos need to come up with something new. Good thing is most gamers know this is all BS, they all read ''"Step right up folks and hold out your money or sub to our service. You don't know what you are going to get, but like always, take our word for it" Signed Lord Phil.

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Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes.

Spencer said publicly traded companies have to show constant growth or else nobody will give them money. "I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business"

LG_Fox_Brazil19d ago

I don't know Phil... You've being running, and some will say ruining, the Xbox brand for 10 years now, you know?

Profchaos19d ago

I'd say he'sade the best out of a tremendous cluster fk of a situation he was thrown into after Don tanked the Xbox brand from Kinect to the launch of the X1.

The only reason Xbox isn't in the Ms graveyard right now is because of Phil.

So I don't agree with everything he's done but I can see why these drastic pivots and moves have been made

VenomUK19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

You don’t hear Nintendo CEO Shuntaro Furukawa blame capitalism for the phenomenal success of the Switch.

You don’t hear now-departed PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan blame capitalism for the roaring success of the PS5.

Cockney19d ago

He was head of games back in don mattricks day so he should be held accountable for his involvement, the back half of the 360 gen and start of xbone lack of games was all him

Rynxie19d ago

The reason Xbox is not in the Ms graveyard is because of the money they are throwing around to keep the brand alive. Don was just a yes man, the stupidity of the Xbox one was MS doing.

romulus2319d ago

We are well past Don Mattrick at this point, people need to stop using that tired excsue. The issues with xbox for nearly the last ten years have been solely on Phil.

Plague-Doctor2719d ago

The PS3 tanked Sony and they recovered during the same generation. The Wii U tanked Nintendo and they delivered a record setting console only a few years later. At the launch of X1 it was keeping pace with the PS4 and in the US was occasionally beating it.

jwillj2k419d ago (Edited 19d ago )

All he had to do was say “the way forward is to make great games.”, drop the mic and make it happen by any means necessary. If you listen to the interview he gave after redfall came out, you’ll hear him say he thought the game was good to go and the internal team rated the game 85 out of 100. 85!! This shows how out of touch he is. He’s literally an empty vessel just collecting his check, running the division off of data-driven analytics, he doesn’t care about xbox and now pulls a Trump, blaming the clouds for his failures.

Cacabunga18d ago

Says the biggest capitalist company.. this moron should stop talking

sinspirit18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

No.. Phil was in charge of European studios and Kinect implementation since 2008. Those European studios he was in charge of were then full time Kinect developers as he was now in charge of all XBox game studios in 2010. This is why game quality has sucked ever since he was in charge and directly why the legendary Lionhead and the actual Rare devs are not there anymore. Phil is actually more to blame than anyone for the bad game quality and the Kinect push. And especially for the terrible XBox One launch.

He was the spearhead implemented employee for Kinect and Microsoft's new vision. The others were the talking heads appointed by XBox. And, honestly watching some of those old interviews it seemed like those XBox employees were possibly maliciously complient by telling exactly what Microsoft's new agenda was with Kinect and always online without dressing it up.

And directly on topic. No, Phil. Capitalism is voting with your wallet. XBox doing bad financially is in fact because of bad products, disappointments, failed deadlines, and especially lying, misleading, and broken promises for products. If you just released really good games and tried to innovate then you'd had a lot of sales.. oh and GamePass is losing out on a ton of sales which can not be recovered from a few microtransaction purchases, monthly sub costs, or even whales. The math is simple when you could have sold a $70 game 5 million times but instead maybe sold 1 million tops and now have to recoup a quarter billion of revenue from lost sales potential of the one title alone. But now you also don't want to release a lot of first party titles because of the direct loss in sales revenue from day 1 GamePass, and you don't want them to release really good games that take a little more time and money to make because you want them to be cost effective for GamePass release. So you intentionally plan to release a lot of AAA shortcomings at this point because the AAA badge is needed but you can't do it too well or GamePass will never actually profit. Even though they had said GamePass is profitable, it is absolutely not by much and never will be. And, they said that Zune was profitable a long time ago but they combined it with an entire category of products when Zune itself was bleeding money. They lose far too many direct sales that even the most generous math can not see how they could be making much money if any at all to make up for this business practice. This is what happens when marketing and trend chasing fool a business into pursuing the wrong thing to stay relevant when the clear answer all along was that they always did good when they just supported developers making genuinely full and good games.

Babadook718d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I kind of agree with you, but Phil is partly to blame.

I blame Peter Moore (for leaving). Everything went to pot soon after.

PapaBop18d ago

How many years ago was this now? I'll give him some credit for what he inherited but lets be honest, he hasn't exactly done anything praise worthy and has done a terrible job managing the studios Microsoft owns.

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Eonjay19d ago

I thought he said it was Gen Z. I can't keep up.

Hofstaderman19d ago

Its Gen Z who are extremely capitilist. Lol, Phil is a clown of note.

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fr0sty18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

He's kinda right, shareholders expect constant growth, which is unsustainable, but it is what they expect nonetheless. That's why, even though the games industry is healthy as it has ever been, because it isn't growing, everyone in the industry is panicking. Even though we're still selling just as many consoles as ever, they expect each generation to just keep on growing and growing, and when that doesn't happen, they start to freak out.

This is true of any industry, and it's why anytime a company goes public, their products usually end up going to shit. The shareholders expect more and more and more growth, cuz they want that stock price to keep climbing, and so eventually corners start getting cut, wages start getting cut, employees start getting cut, they start cutting away everywhere they can to try to squeeze a little bit more money out of the product, until they ruin it, and then they move on to the next product.

buffig18d ago

Yeah, but everyone knows how capitalism works. This part didn't need explaining. The problem is that they bought massive plublishers for a gazillion dollars, to the detriment of the industry and now he's acting like he has no choice but to fire thousands of people because he just found out about nasty capitalism

TheEnigma31318d ago

Why I'm glad companies like Valve stayed private.

SyntheticForm18d ago

He'd never blame himself, so he's trying to score points with the kids by blaming capitalism. One of the biggest capitalists is blaming capitalism for his and Xbox's failure.

fr0sty18d ago

I agree with you, which is why I said he's "kinda" right... he's right in the fact that capitalism is behind a lot of investors freaking out that the games industry, while still healthy, is not continually growing unsustainably, but he's also being hypocritical in the same breath after buying half the industry and then laying off thousands of them, and using his own business practices as an excuse to cover for his failures.

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mandf19d ago

It won't be until halo and gears are on playstation that xbox fans see phil for who he is. A snake fighting only for himself. The video game industry means nothing to him just his paycheck to those who believe phil is passionate and loves video games you are part of the problem. You never hold ms accountable.

Minute Man 72119d ago

Halo and Gears only when Microsoft drops outta the console market

-Foxtrot19d ago

They don't need to drop out of the market for that to happen

They will always have some kind of console going forward but Halo and Gears could only be a few years away at this rate.

Next gen might look completely different

Tacoboto19d ago

I'd actually hope for Halo to come to PS and Nintendo at this point.

The community rejected a mictotransaction option so MCC is no longer maintained - no new revenue streams and Microsoft listened. Infinite is on Content Updates now instead of Seasons - dwindling playerbase and less excitement. If MS wants the franchise to thrive, that's free money and the same could essentially be said for Gears bringing them abroad.

FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

@Tacoboto,
To be fair, Halo Infinite had a rocky start to begin with, I think they improved for a while, but fell behind again.

shinoff218318d ago

The writings on the all in huge fking letters. Just read it.

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phoenixwing19d ago

I don't blame Phil for that in the slightest. If you were offered to be an executive of a company 9 out of 10 ppl would take the job for the salary and give little crap about how they feel about any given product they sell. He's not wrong that capitalism drives greedy companies but you have to take the good with the bad.

staticall19d ago

@phoenixwing
But the person is doing a bad job and the company (including customers) are suffering because of that, how can you not blame him? The reason for high paying is the decisions you make and the responsibility you take for your actions steering the company in the right direction (if company is doing bad, it's your fault; if company is doing good, it's because of your decisions).

It reminds me of that South Park Bill Owens parody ("Follow that egg" episode), a governor who wants all the money and recognition/respect, but doesn't want to take any responsibility, how backwards is that?!

Petebloodyonion18d ago

@Staticall
Agree but what are your metrics for doing a bad job?
Is Microsoft's share value tanking due to its decision?
Is brand awareness worse than in 2016?

As someone who works in investment, this is how I see it and why Spencer's still around.
1) Grow the Xbox brand awareness by including PC and Gamepass making it a stronger brand by name versus 2015.
2) Showed a plan to evolve profitability by having multiple sources of recurrent income with Gamepass, PC gaming, streaming, and now other platforms
3) made new market integration possible via PC and cloud.
4) Can make hard decisions for the good of the company like cutting jobs.

staticall18d ago

@Petebloodyonion
I would say, we shouldn't look at Microsoft themselves, they have a ton of revenue streams - Windows sales, hardware sales, Office sales, Azure, government contracts, certification programs, etc. We need to look at Xbox - hardware sales are in decline (Xbox 360 > Xbox One > Xbox Series S + X combined). GamePass subscribers aren't growing enough and, according to the Microsoft docs, are at plateau. Games sales are abysmal (both physical and digital, thanks to "Day one on GamePass"). Xbox exclusives doesn't exist anymore (every game is coming to PC). And it didn't start yesterday, this was happening for a long-long time.

In my eyes, brand recognition doesn't mean much, if it doesn't translate to console sales, because Phil took away every reason to buy Xbox console for a regular customer (i used to own Xbox 360 and saw 0 reasons to own Xbox One or Xbox Series).

I would also argue that he didn't make any hard decisions, at least when it comes to games: Crackdown 3, Redfall, Halo Infinite - he was saying that those games are looking fine only to be laughed at on presentation/release. But i would consider that a low blow, because he did cut some jobs. But not from top management (who are responsible for the decisions).

In my eyes, as a console owner/gamer, doing good job as a platform holder = supporting your console with high quality exclusive games (like Nintendo and Sony are doing). I'm fine with releasing the games afterwards on PC, but not right away (otherwise, what's the point of a console?!). Extra services are fine (like PS+ or GamePass, or cloud stuff), but they wouldn't be a reason to buy a console for me. Phil is overfocusing on extra services, not on games. And it doesn't work out and haven't worked out for what, 10 years already? Sorry, i feel like i'm rambling at this point.

Nooderus19d ago

He's a Microsoft executive. Duh

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Agree except I think the real snake is MS itself. They are a terrible company. This clown is just the hired man for the job.

phoenixwing18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Thats basically what I'm trying to say and if you really want to get down to it. It's the board of directors for the company who makes this stuff happen.

jznrpg18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

@Phoenixeing it’s his job as the head of the division to tell those people I think you are wrong and for success we need to this - that’s literally his job. MS motto is a big problem and Phil going a long with it is also his fault. He’s the one guy who can say something.

Abear2118d ago

Agreed they are the problem.

M$ doesn’t care about the quality of the game, they care about the profitability of the game.

When you work for a Co. like M$ you know this. It’s all about money—not the “art” or what’s healthy in the industry for devs and/or the consumers.

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M3talDiamond19d ago

First its Gen Z now its capitalism but we can all agree that it definitely isn't Phil

JackBNimble18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

If it wasn't for capitalism there would be no xbox or Microsoft for that matter. But as the head of xbox division it is his responsibility no matter good or bad .... that's what it means to be the boss. If that's to much for him, then he needs to resign.

-Foxtrot19d ago

Kind of funny because when it comes to capitalism Microsoft is one of those great big American companies that just screams it.

They spent billions on Minecraft, Zenimax and Activision yet couldn't afford to save all those jobs they cut. With the money they make within a year they could have, someway.

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FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

They've been swallowing up a lot of AI companies too and spending big on that area.

S2Killinit19d ago

If MS gets into AI they will cause the end of humanity the way they are causing the end of console gaming.

FinalFantasyFanatic18d ago

@S2Killinit,

It's between Microsoft and Google, the chances are one of those two will take the AI crown considering the amount of cash they're throwing at that sector. I suppose Microsoft might be the worst out of the two, but Google hasn't been exactly great compared to the old days when they threw around their old adage of "do no evil".

Silly Mammo18d ago

MS is making millions of dollars annually with the Xbox brand. Unfortunately, they're spending billions on acquisitions too

8bitAssassin18d ago

Game Pass games are not free.

Christopher18d ago

He also blames his bank account balance on capitalism.

PhillyDonJawn18d ago

I don't think it work like that. MS is the parent company. The branch has its own budget to maintain.

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thorstein19d ago

Making millions, taking million dollar salaries and bonuses but it's the dev in the chair that's preventing profit?

Yeah okay, Phil.

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Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox's saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

Nathan Brown: "Phil Spencer spoke to the press at GDC last week, offering some context/spin on Microsoft’s recent manoeuvres, while dropping a few now-customary hints about the Xbox division’s future plans. I take one issue with this: I am no longer sure Xbox has much of a future to speak of. Moreover: I think Phil Spencer, for so long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may ultimately be remembered as the man who killed it."

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gold_drake21d ago

his decisions over the years were definitely questionable at best.

but MS let him be the head of xbox for this long, so they either dont have anyone else for the job or .. we'll i dont rly know any other reason haha.

-Foxtrot21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Basically when we had that awful Xbox One reveal in 2013 and Don Mattrick was thrown under the bus as the companies scape goat Phil was pretty much the only one they had who wasn't a typical looking "corporate suit".

Despite the fact him being the head of Microsoft Game Studios and gladly going along with the lack of games nearing the end of the Xbox 360 life where it was basically Kinect, Sports, TV along with the same 3-4 IPs like Halo or Gears he was the best person they had for the job.

They didn't have anyone else basically and from that day onward he was seen as good guy Phil turning the studio around when all he was doing was reversing the silly decisions made and going along with whatever the higher ups or the board wanted for Xbox. Didn't make a difference in the end because everything they "reversed" with the awful Xbox One reveal ended up being implemented in small different ways surgically in recent years with Gamepass.

The guy apparently is such a huge gamer yet played Crackdown 3 and Redfall, thought they were good and released them anyway in those states.

PapaBop21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Not a typical looking corporate suit? The guy straight up looks like a used car salesman lol. To be fair, after Mattrick, I think anyone with half a brain could succeed him and look semi decent, whenever I think of his name, I immediately remember that "this is how to share your games" video from Sony.

S2Killinit21d ago

when I look at him, its cringe. The guy dresses casually to fool people. But he is as corporate as it gets.

fr0sty20d ago

His cocky smirk I've always found to be incredibly annoying...

MrDead21d ago

I would say his "why bother making games when others are already" decision is what has lead them here. MS does this, but they just buy companies that they want to do a thing then asset strip it and dump it, you can't do that in gaming.

Tody_ZA20d ago

He's the head of Xbox because Microsoft isn't a gaming company and they haven't done anything for gaming in more than a decade. They're a parent company looking to buy more kids to raise as investments. They will profit off ownership, off their games releasing on other platforms, because they can't create anything themselves. Slowly they'll make Xbox as a console completely irrelevant under the mantra of play anywhere. That's why Phil is still there. He shares their corporate vision of making bucks and doing nothing for the gaming industry.

SubtilizZer21d ago

“If they don’t have a story these days they’ll make one”
Drake.

RhinoGamer8821d ago

Phil's top skill is keeping his job, growing his net worth to over $25million, all while underperforming...

SeTTriP21d ago

Gotta respect it, he went from a gaming studio head to making 70billion dollar deals...he is the main character I gotta admit.he looks fun to hang around too.

MrDead21d ago

...why do I feel like I need a shower after reading that? One of the grossest thing I've heard, S tier blowing bubbles grovelling.

jznrpg20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I don’t respect moves that make gaming worse long term

XBManiac20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

(Phil 'wait for next year' Spencer)
Microsoft made the 71,933 millions deal because it was already started and, with Microsoft, it is not possible to go back and stop it. Does anybody think that deal would be an option in 2023 or 2024, with the nowadays sitiation of the industry? And in 2022? No, nobody would pay that money for Activision-blizzard-king... because it would not be recovered in more than 20 years of really hard and good work. Everybody are selling for less, not buying for more (Embracer, Tencent...). But bad decisions in a company like Microsoft are impossible to fix. It is like a very big Ministery, where if something starts, it can't be stopped. It happened before and Microsoft will do the same again, as they have enough money to burn... well... I hope, because if Microsoft dies... it will be the end of our known world. What could substitute it?

_Decadent_Descent20d ago

I mean, that does take a certain skill. lol

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I guess he has skill as a salesman, look how long he managed to get people to wait on Xbox.

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