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Lucario in Super Smash Bros Discussion

GameXplain: "Lucario from the Pokemon series returns for Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS! We talk all about the latest screenshots and give our thoughts on this latest addition. Does this mean Mewtwo's gone for good? Is his moveset really the same as before? Or might he be able to Mega Evolve as in Pokemon X & Y? We discuss all this and more in our Super Smash Bros. Wii U & 3DS discussion!"

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Eternalb3731d ago

I hope Mewtwo comes back =(

-Foxtrot3731d ago (Edited 3731d ago )

He better, although if he did I feel it would be pointless have him AND Lucario, we only need one and in my opinion Mewtwo is would be my choice since he has two forms from X and Y.

I thought they would of went with Zoroark though this time since they usually put a new Pokemon in.

Swiggins3731d ago

Why does having two forms automatically make him superior?

There may still be a new Poke in the mix, hell, maybe they'll add multiple Pokemon Trainers, one from each Gen with the three starters mixed around.

Why must you be such a Negative Nancy in every article talking about Lucario in SSB?

-Foxtrot3731d ago (Edited 3731d ago )

Why? Because it's a great gameplay piece for the character.

Having two forms would be good because you would have two different forms with different attacks, bringing in more variety. They have a Pokemon character who can do this why waste it.

Kind of like how you change from Zelda to Sheik in other Smash Bros games. Now with Mewtwo you can have two forms.

"Why must you be such a Negative Nancy in every article talking about Lucario in SSB"

LOL...theres been TWO ARTICLES.....TWO and this is one of them.

You make this out to be news which has been known for months.

thegent3731d ago

Two forma barely does anything. Most sheik players only play as sheik and barely anyone mainsnpokemon trainer. It woild just take more effort for balancing and sakurai said he's almost reached thenlimit for maximum amount of balanced characters. 2 new charactes> one old character with two forms.

-Foxtrot3731d ago (Edited 3731d ago )

"Two forma barely does anything. Most sheik players only play as sheik and barely anyone mainsnpokemon trainer."

Well even if they stay in one form at least one person can choose the form they like, it's just more choice at the end of the day.

I honestly don't see what's wrong with that

thegent3731d ago

If they were two seperate characters they would still be able to choose? And both characters would still have a down b move

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feraldrgn3731d ago

He'll most likely have the Mega Evolution form in Smash.

DarkHeroZX3731d ago

Lucario is top tier in the games and is was ranked 10-11 in Brawl. Let the destruction begin.

kirbyu3730d ago

Why does everyone compare Lucario to Mewtwo? They have nothing to do with each other.

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Mortal Kombat hits 80 million sales, here's how it stacks up against competition

NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.

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Kakashi Hatake335d ago

Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.

NotoriousWhiz335d ago

You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.

gerbintosh334d ago

Not according to the creator, Sakurai. Link below

https://www.eventhubs.com/n...

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CrimsonWing69335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21335d ago

because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.

CrimsonWing69335d ago

@NatsuXTheMaxspeed21

I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.

When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.

Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.

Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…

Immagaiden335d ago

What’s next, you gonna say Mario Kart isn’t a racing game?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21335d ago

oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .

Immagaiden335d ago

I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?

What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?

repsahj334d ago

"Only kids and kids at heart check for mario kart and smash".

-fixed!

FallenAngel1984334d ago (Edited 334d ago )

Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter

PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter

gleepot334d ago

You're correct, it isn't traditional. It's a fighting game though.

repsahj334d ago

Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.

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MrNinosan335d ago

Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.

NotoriousWhiz335d ago

I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.

MrNinosan335d ago

"and here's how it competes against other fighters"

No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21335d ago

Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.

NotoriousWhiz335d ago

I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.

Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.

PapaBop335d ago

While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.

Thundercat77335d ago

And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.

Immagaiden335d ago

Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB

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Ezio2048335d ago

Given the volume of games released, I would say Tekken has sold the best.

lodossrage335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.

Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?

With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?

With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?

There are a lot of variables at play here

Ezio2048335d ago

Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.

CS7334d ago

Yeah, i realized that too. Very interesting.

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Super Smash Bros. prototype revealed in new video

The designer of the original Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64 shows us the prototype that started it all.

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Nintendo will not allow Super Smash Bros. on the Evo 2022

Kim writes: "Super Smash Bros. will not be shown at Evo 2022, this year's biggest fighting game event. The Sony-owned sports organization announced the loss of the platformer in a statement on Twitter today, and seemed to blame the decision on Nintendo, which has historically tried to control how their games appear in the wild."

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ZeekQuattro781d ago

The moment Sony acquired EVO the writing was on the wall. A big loss for EVO.

blackblades780d ago

Sony acquiring them had nothing to do with it. Nintendo fault.

AnotherGamer780d ago

That has nothing to do with Sony though.

ZeekQuattro780d ago

Yeah I'm supposed to believe that Nintendo who has been apart of Evo since 2007 up and leaves after Sony acquires Evo is just a coincidence. Yeah okay.

Michiel1989779d ago

pretty sure Sony would allow them to compete. But nintendo has seen all smash bros tourneys as free advertisment from the community, instead of providing setups/games etc they demand that you play their adds on the tourney and put up posters with their newest game instead of actually supporting the competitive smash scene. They just piggybank off them. Now that Sony runs it they wont get free advertisement over there, thus fuck over their smash community by not allowing having it at EVO.

Brazz780d ago

Also big loss for smash community.

Vengeance1138780d ago

Huge loss for Nintendo, could have been huge PR for Smash and to further the titles reach and to gain even more players but Nintendo is happy to let it slip into nothingness. No new content is coming to Smash so literally all it has left is potential tournaments.

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Knightofelemia781d ago

In away this hurts Nintendo Smash Bros has some dedicated fans. What better way to help build hype and sell more of the game then showcasing it at EVO.

Atom666781d ago

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

They wanted more control, which led to starting up their pro circuit. We'll see if it works out.

EVO's recent troubles probably played a part in the decision, but my bet is that they were planning this for awhile.

-Hermit-780d ago

Because it's Nintendo, they just don't get it. They are so ass backwards. At this point, they deserve to get left behind by everybody else. The only reason why they remain relevant is because they appeal to nostalgia.

Neonridr780d ago

except they are currently the most successful. Left behind, lol. Cute Hermit.

-Hermit-780d ago

@Neonridr

I never said they are left behind, I said they deserve to be. Nintendo hasn't done a single positive thing for gaming for a very long time now.

They are anti consumer, release weak and overpriced hardware and shit out the same games to appeal to nostalgia. They don't put any effort into their "remasters" they go after fans for making fanmade games, they go after emulation when they don't give a damn about their older games.

They charge to play online for the Switch after it was free for a year and are behind every single company when it comes to online infastructure. They make it difficult to back up save games. They lock content behind those crappy Amiibos. They sell cardboard to people because they are too cheap to develop actual good hardware to go alongside their console. They go after people streaming Nintendo games.

I would argue that Nintendo are less consumer friendly than the likes of EA, and that's saying something.

whitbyfox780d ago

They just announced 48 new Mario Kart tracks for free with the expansion pass, that’s a whole new game for free.

You must have missed that one.

luckytrouble779d ago

@whitbyfox

"Included with the expansion pass" is not free. It's part of what you're paying for with your subscription fee. I get people try to call things included in subscriptions free to help rationalize costs involved with this subscription heavy model that has taken over, but the addition of something in a pretty unanimously agreed upon to be an overpriced subscription isn't Nintendo being nice; they're trying to incentivize people to finally see the cost of the expansion pass as a good value. In this case though they already established the cost of permanent ownership, which I'm sure was forced low to not over value the subscription, so you know that pack is actually worth $25. It's not free in any sense of the word, and Nintendo is only trying to do themselves a favor with this move.

whitbyfox779d ago

@luckytrouble

We never knew we were getting the Mario Kart tracks, we thought we were just paying for the N64 Megadrive and Animal Crossing DLC so it’s free to me.

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Neonridr780d ago

Nintendo has their own events and showcases though. They will be fine.

CrimsonWing69780d ago

Nintendo’s a real party pooper, huh?

fsfsxii780d ago

evo about to smell a lot better

OhReginald779d ago

It's not a proper fighting game. Who cares.