680°

Microsoft's: "New IP is Critical;" Teases Unannounced Ones and Shares more on Black Tusk's Future

With the announcement of Microsoft's acquisition of the Gears of War franchise from Epic, some have been worried about the house of Xbox losing focus on new IPs, but Phil Spencer came to the rescue on Twitter to reassure fans that more new IP will come.

Read Full Story >>
dualshockers.com
-Foxtrot3737d ago

"Team is focusing on Gears now given investment we made in IP, obviously down the road other opportunities can open up"

So it's pretty much confirmed now that Gears 4 will be first while their new, fresh IP is put on the back burner.

"as I said. Goal was to announce BT. There was no game reveal in that"

Then why didn't you say at the time

theWB273737d ago

It was pretty much confirmed when Micro announced the buy and stated Black Tusk would be working on it. Why wouldn't they try and get one of their most succesful IP's out the door?

"Then why didn't you say at the time"

Are people really that disappointed that a potential game they knew NOTHING about was potentially shelved?

I mean all 3 companies put their best devs out there to make their best IP's in order to sell the most copies possible.

BitbyDeath3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

You should probably let them make a game first before you call them "best devs" :-p

-Foxtrot3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

Knowing nothing about a new IP is better then no new IP...especially these days where all over it's usually sequel after sequel.

We mostly complain that we dont get enough of them and when have the chance to people act like they aren't bothered.

Gears started off as a new IP once upon a time remember

theWB273737d ago

@Bitby
Or you can put that quote into context.
"I mean all 3 companies put their best devs out there to make their best IP's in order to sell the most copies possible."

Microsoft wouldn't put them on Gears if they didn't think they were one of their best studios. Yes, they have to prove it to the customer but Microsoft knows/seen whatever they were doing behind closed doors and felt they were talented enough to assign them one of Microsoft's most succesful IPs.

That comment is true...Sony-Microsoft-Nintendo put their best IP's in the hands of their best studios.

fenome3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

Either way though, in the best interest of the game being any good hopefully they don't try to rush it out by next year or have an E3 demo. They just obtained the IP literally today and development takes time. If I were you, I'd be very weary if they had something to show at E3 'cause it's obviously gonna be some bullshit. I'd hope for a mid-2016 release at the earliest if I had any actual interest in this game.

Plus, this is gonna be Black Tusks first game out as a studio, might wanna see what they do before they get such high praise.

What they showed at E3 last year was strictly a tech demo, it had absolutely nothing to do with a game at all whatsoever. It's exactly the same thing as the Quantic Dream tech demo with the wizard and goblin that they did for the PS4. It has nothing to do with a game, it's just something to tout next-gen and try to get people hyped.

I'm not calling you out personally for praising them or anything like that, I've just heard a lot about Black Tusk this and that recently and they haven't even done anything as a team yet, that's all..

showtimefolks3737d ago

theWB27

best developers seriously? Let them make something first please. Because that best developer tag is very precious

-Foxtrot

expect this moving forward, while MS will no doubt will announce some new Ip's most of their bread and butter will be the same IP's they used on xbox360. Halo,Fable,Gears,Alan wake,Forza etc,

The only thing i am worried about is how Gears will move forward, I for one thought after 3rd the series ended and judgement just didn't have that magic factor that other gears games before

But i am willing to give this team a chance let's hope MS give them enough time to make a proper Gears game with some fresh new ideas

truefan13737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

As I said, I am an objective xbox fan. I honestly hoped that trailer was a game and was hoping for a 2015 release. GOW might be one of my favorite franchises ever, but I wanted to see how that spy game would develop. I'm holding out hope that the new ip is still moving along, they just want to reveal it on a bigger stage. All in all MSFT is bringing the games and I like the Phil Spencer direction.

fenome3737d ago

@truefan1

look dude, I'm gonna bubble+ you for just being honest and stating your mind, all BS aside. I like playstation, you like xbox, cool, to each their own. Sometimes we just gotta agree to disagree.

But please, PLEASE, don't use GOW for Gears of War. God of War had it first, at least use GeOW or something.. it drives me nuts. Just like Planetside 2 being called PS2, it's just confusing.

At the end of the day though, I hope your games turn out fantastic and mine do to. Game on man, and enjoy it all. Life's short, live love play.

kupomogli3737d ago

@theWB27

I don't agree with your statement.

For example, if Sony put their best developers on their best IPs, they would have offered better salaries or hired better people to develop Playstation All Stars. As a fighting game it's fun at first, but as you get better at it, it slaps you in the face how broken it was.

Not only that but online isn't as good as games like Tekken Tag, Blazblue, Persona 4 Arena, etc. There are more bugs and glitches in the game than Skyrim and every single patch they released, happened to further reduce the quality of online, added more bugs and glitches, etc. There are several patches to fix other patches, and even then they screwed other stuff up.

A game like Playstation All Stars is one that could have became a huge brand with future sequels. Giving it to an unproven developer that they just hired on the spot ruined any chance of that.

3737d ago
DragonKnight3737d ago

Why is anyone surprised by this? This is Microsoft people. Why give Xbox fans a new, potentially GOTY IP that they can build on when they can just give you more of the same that they've been giving you for the past 8 years?

Xbox One is beginning its cycle of Forza, Fable, Halo, and now Gears releases.

Bdub20003737d ago

@fenome, your GOW statement is hilarious to me. I'm a Microsoft fan, and huge into Gears of War, and I always relate GOW to God of War, I always get that confused too.

rainslacker3737d ago

Are people disappointed?

You mean the game that almost every X1 fan has been saying that Black Tusk had an unannounced game that would bolster their 1st party exclusives in response to Sony fans touting Sony's 1st party exclusives?

If BT was indeed working on an unannounced IP and I was looking forward to it, then I would probably be disappointed that they shelved it in favor of GOW, and I find GOW to be one of Xbox's better exclusives.

There are plenty of capable devs out there that could handle a GOW game. It's a fairly standard game type nowadays, lacks the technical innovation that it had when the IP first released, and runs on Unreal, the most used engine in the industry last gen. Good devs are made by their owners pushing the quality of the game over any kind of long term respect they may gain. It's possible for a no name studio to make a great game if the ones paying for it demand it, and take the time to make sure it happens.

I understand why MS would want to get a GOW game out for the X1 ASAP. It's a strong IP and will probably push systems. They must feel the same to spend so much money on it. But to me it shows that MS is less willing to take risks on new things, even if it's coming from one of their better developers.

MS could have made several new IP's with just the purchase price of the GOW IP, and that doesn't even include the next $100 million they'll probably spend making the actual game. That would make me upset if I were an X1 owner, and if Sony did the same thing, I would be upset with them.

Prime1573737d ago

A lot off two faced comments in here. Obviously ms puts their new studios on old ips because of sequelitis. It will sell. Until gamers start supporting new ips, ms has no reason to really pit money behind new ips.

Risk vs reward. New ip is risky.

UnholyLight3737d ago

@Foxtrot

I guess you have a point, Microsoft makes less new IPs but when they do, they are amazing. I think I'd still rather take that road than the gazzilion Sony IPs that really never tickled my fancy at all...Maybe they will now that I own a PS4 though

H0RSE3737d ago

@DragonKnight

"Why is anyone surprised by this? This is Microsoft people. Why give Xbox fans a new, potentially GOTY IP that they can build on when they can just give you more of the same that they've been giving you for the past 8 years?"

- Titanfall says hi...

Biggest3737d ago

Yay! He named a game!

The last Gears of War did not sell extremely well. It would have made sense for Microsoft to think of moving on. However, it also makes sense for them to try again. As evident here, their fans care not about how hard they work. They want whatever they are given.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ3736d ago

No, just Sony fanboys trying to put a brotha down... they only think about themselves

DragonKnight3736d ago

@H0RSE: You mean the game not being made by an MS studio? The game that the developers didn't want to be exclusive to any platform but EA went behind their backs with it and made a deal with MS anyway?

I love how Xbox fanboys think 3rd party games are made, or really have anything to do with Microsoft. Microsoft gets royalties from 3rd party games, that's it. They don't make the games, they don't publish the games, hell they likely don't even go after the games very hard because 3rd party devs want to make money anyway. So explain to me how Titanfall, a game whose existence has literally nothing to do with Microsoft, is Microsoft bringing new games to the Xbox One?

Also, and I seriously couldn't give a damn about this but, Titanfall 2 isn't going to be exclusive to the Xbox One anyway. Enjoy having one game to brag about that you'll hate next year.

H0RSE3736d ago (Edited 3736d ago )

@DragonKnight

Your rant has absolutely nothing to do with anything. First party studio, third party studio? It doesn't matter, because it is irrelevant to the the comment:

"Why is anyone surprised by this? This is Microsoft people. Why give Xbox fans a new, potentially GOTY IP that they can build on when they can just give you more of the same that they've been giving you for the past 8 years?"

- There is no mention of any studio, and only mention of MS as a company bringing or not bringing new IP's to the X1. The important part of that statement -

"Why give Xbox fans a new, potentially GOTY IP that they can build on when they can just give you more of the same that they've been giving you for the past 8 years?"

- is where my response comes in. You are ranting over the fact that MS has assigned BTS the project of a new GoW game, rather than a new IP that could potentially be GOTY material, while at the same time, Titanfall - a new IP for xbox, which is a likely candidate for GOTY, is being developed by a newly formed studio.

Your rhetoric was designed to showcase how MS apparently doesn't care about the games or their fans, and instead, would rather recycle what's worked in the past since it will likely result in guaranteed profit, and we all know how much MS likes money... Unfortunately, your response was a miserable failure.

In your anti-MS rage, you let your emotions get the best of you, and you just rant and go off topic, bringing up non-related circumstances in an attempt to both maintain your depiction of MS in a negative light, and discredit my claim, which is still just as valid as before you wasted all that space with your word salad. But I will answer your question, since it is so blatantly obvious.

"So explain to me how Titanfall, a game whose existence has literally nothing to do with Microsoft, is Microsoft bringing new games to the Xbox One?"

- Because the claim was never if the "existence" of the game is due to MS, but rather it's existence on xbox, which it is. You can't just develop a game and put it out on xbox, without going through MS. In addition, MS is providing the cloud/server/bandwidth/whateve r you want to call it, to assist Respawn with developing/running the game.

Respawn approached both Sony and MS with their needs, and MS were the ones that delivered, so not only is that one of the dumbest questions I've ever seen, it's also not in even accurate, since MS is actually directly involved with this game coming to xbox.

"Also, and I seriously couldn't give a damn about this but, Titanfall 2 isn't going to be exclusive to the Xbox One anyway. Enjoy having one game to brag about that you'll hate next year."

- that above quote just helps illustrate how absolutely bitter you are about the fact that xbox gets Titanfall and PS doesn't. It's not just that MS gets it and Sony isn't, it's that xbox is getting a game that, regardless if you like the game or not, might be the next big thing, and I bet that chaps your ass right off. You even try to justify and downplay this by bringing Titanfall 2 into the discussion. The thing is though, Titanfall will only see a sequel if it is a success, and depending on how successful it is, MS likely has the money to make sure it stays exclusive.

Oh, and this gem:

"and I seriously couldn't give a damn about this but,..."

is just another way of saying, "I actually do care, but I want you to think I don't," like when people say, "I don't mean to be a prick," right before they do something prickish...

maniacmayhem3736d ago

Funny how Sony fanboys yell and scream:
"MS has no exclusives."

Then when MS has exclusives like Ryse, Titanfall, D4, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break then the argument turns into:

"Well those aren't 1st party!"

It's pretty ridiculous how much time sony fanboys spend twisting and turning their own arguments to fit their agendas. It's pretty impressive and sad at the same time.

Biggest3736d ago

Remember the first few years of the X360? They had tons of juicy exclusives. Remember the last 5 years? Things have dried up, huh?

It's awesome that Microsoft has decided to support their machine in the early days. They know what works. Hook in their usual fanbase with a few games, then hand them shovelware and rehashes of the same four games. It will work again. . . For their fans. The problem is that Sony has taken a lot of those fans away.

The writing is already on the wall. This gen will be no different from last gen. Forza, <insertnewgame>, Halo, Gears, Forza, Halo, Gears, Forza, Halo, Gears.

+ Show (18) more repliesLast reply 3736d ago
Spurg3737d ago

Wait...Next to no one knew or cared about the Black tusk game....Now suddenly everyone wants to know where its gone.

I'm a bit disappointed myself by that news because the IP was suppose to be rivalling Halo...Little did I know it was gears all along. But Ms still has new Ip such as Quantum break, Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall and D4.

Anyways 343i is proof that Ms can make up a great team to handle a big franchise...Black tusk game will be one of them.

-Foxtrot3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

No one cared, are you serious it was one of the highlights at E3, people getting excited by a new IP which they cant wait to learn more about it.

343, Halo 4 was alright but didnt touch Bungies games. The online was a step back aswell which is why so many players like myself left

MRMagoo1233737d ago

No one cared about the new IP by black tusk , yet i can find right now within a minute 4 posts talking about black tusks new ip and how good they think it will be , thats just articles on the hottest news of today , if ppl didnt care about it why does it make it into georgenoobs exclusives of 2014 lists every time he makes one?

Spurg3737d ago

@ Fox
I'm sorry but are you serious....black tusk game didn't get any attention from no one. It got a little of my attention but QB, Titanfall. Sunset overdrive and Halo were the highlights. We didn't even get any info from then. I seriously don't remember any articles mentioning anything on black tusk game or it being on anyone's list of anticipated games.

n4rc3737d ago

He said the work they did prior to getting put on gears wasn't scrapped..

But he's right.. Who ever said that trailer was a game announcement? Their company name was the only wording in the entire thing.. I thought it was pretty cool..

And cmon guys.. These guys aren't being praised for no reason.. The team has some pretty impressive credentials and that's why people have high expectations of them.

Although.. I've never liked gears all that much and would have preferred something new.. But it will come..

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 3737d ago
bganci3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

Xbox one fan here. They advertised a new original ip from black tusk. ANOTHER 180. I have spent the last year defending them. I'm done. The Kinect was a waisted investment, inferior specs..they are lucky I care more about games than graphics. -sad xbox one owner. RIP new IP.

zerogotit3737d ago

Why do you have to defend the xbox? Im guessing you dont know what website youre commenting on.

Oh_Yeah3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

Why would you think Xbox would change? They're making a killing off timed exclusives/ paying 3rd party's for exclusives, they are the leaches of the gaming industry with hardly any in house talent. They're scared to lose money by taking risks putting together their own teams. They'd rather pay other devs for what works and what sells.

bganci3737d ago

I defended xbox because I believed they would take a hint after all the 180s. I was hoping for a reinvention like Sony had after the launch of the ps3. You know get reliable leadership. Get them in the right direction.

headblackman3737d ago

you were never an xbox owner or fan. you're just a playstation fanbot looking to convert true xbox fans with your bs stories or being burned by xbox and microsoft. sorry sir. it's not gonna work! stick with your gaystation and we'll stick with our xbox!

bganci3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

Would you like photos? Gamertag is bwaitforitganci look me up and say I'm a Sony fanboy. I was really excited for this new original ip they wanted to be the next halo. Who wouldn't.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 3737d ago
theWB273737d ago

"Knowing nothing about a new IP is better then no new IP...especially these days where all over it's usually sequel after sequel.

We mostly complain that we dont get enough of them and when have the chance to people act like they aren't bothered.

Gears started off as a new IP once upon a time remember"

How is knowing nothing about a new IP better than no IP? Either way you can't defend something that you either knew nothing about or didn't exist at all.

Can you sell me on this unknown IP? Can you get me more excited about this game that didn't exist, for all we know, than knowing they could create a game within the Gears universe with potentially better visuals than was shown at E3?(That trailer was in engine)

If you asked me...that snippet didn't look like anything we couldn't get in the next Splinter Cell game.

I don't complain about the lack of new IP's. There are plenty of games out there that can fill that new void. I'm emotionally invested in known things...I'm stoked to see where Nathan Drake goes next...where Master Chief has to go...where the Gears universe goes...if Kratos has any more vengeance left...where Sam Fisher infiltrates next.

Telling me I'm getting a new IP with NO knowledge of anything else doesn't get me excited as much as telling me where my favorite characters are going.

I can't wait to see the next Avengers even though we've seen these characters for the last 50+ years.

I know a series has to start somewhere...but telling me it's cancelled before there's any investment doesn't make me mad...there was nothing to care about.

Rainstorm813737d ago

I gotta disagree...I'm glad we got The Last of Us rather than getting Uncharted 4 in its place.

The game u begin knowing nothing about could be the next GotY...or favorite franchise

Gabenbrah3737d ago

I'm not worried, MS will bring in new IPs, we've already got Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and Project Spark to look forward to and Rare, 343i and Lionhead are all working on unnannounced games, so there could be a new IP in those 3 as well, not to mention future third party relations like MS did with Respawn and Titanfall.

It is sad not to see Blacktusk Studios create a new IP, but maybe we'll see it after they complete Gears for Xbox One.

jmac533737d ago

There were rumors that BT was not producing and they were 6 months behind schedule. Maybe they were floundering creatively and that's why MS decided to give them an established franchise.

FACTUAL evidence3737d ago

I'm just hoping it's not going to be gears and halo every other year again.....i didn't buy x1 for that....reason why I got it was for all these new ips they claim they were getting. Oh well guess i'll see down the road.

Automatic793737d ago

@ Factual

I think we got a good slate of upcoming games. Lets support it so that we can continue to get more new IP's

beerzombie3737d ago

Well that a you problem, I have own all of the Xboxes and I know what I am getting. Shooters and more shooters and my friends and family knows it too.

Automatic793737d ago

@Foxtrot

Its obvious your not a fan. Why do you even worry about what Xbox One game developers are doing. So far we know more about Xbox One games then any other company. I like the open communication that the company specifically Phil Spencer has with us gamers. Jump on or don't talk at all and enjoy your system of choice.

Note: To all gamers lets enjoy the next few years and support the games. Without our support companies can and will go out of business.

jmac533737d ago

Ha! Short-term memory right? Open communication with gamers and Microsoft do not belong in the same sentence together. Were you living under a rock this past year?

-Foxtrot3737d ago

I am a fan

I do care

I do worry

Unlike you though, I can criticize, you type of people think people can only be a "fan" of something if you are positive about it and ignore any flaws.

"So far we know more about Xbox One games then any other company."

lol

ONLY BECAUSE Microsoft needed to get us back on their boat about what they did with the Xbox One reveal and are still doing today with their lies about resolution, framerate, the cloud etc.

They announced some things way too early. Black Tusks new game for example which wasn't even a game now, Sunset Overdrive which probably won't be out untill early next year, Quantum Break and Halo 5 which will be out late this year. Sony never announced a bunch of stuff because they don't need to, slow and steady wins the race.

3737d ago
Azzanation3737d ago

I don't understand how you can turn this into a negative. Gears of War 4 (Xbox 2nd biggest franchise) will be making a return on there next gen system. On top of that they have more new IPs on the way.
Sonys releasing Imfamous Second Son and plans for a future Uncharted 4 game (All stable franchises like Gears) While MS are bringing us Titanfall and many others.
Why cant you accept the facts there doing a good job and are heading in the right direction?

-Foxtrot3737d ago

How am I turning that into a negative, it's a comment...your perception on my comment where you THINK it's negative is what's going on.

It's true they made out and lead people on the teaser they showed at E3 was from a full on game and they are moving their new game onto the backburner for Gears of War which in terms of pushing the story forward has no place to go since the game wrapped everything up nicely.

BlackTar1873737d ago

Just keep bringing the IP's MS and il keep buying them. Don't slow down don't faulter just keep making quality games that are fresh. Please don't release 6 hals 5 Gears and 4 Forzas this gen and basically let that define you again for another generation.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3737d ago

Ryse was brand new and you Sony fans cried about it.

Funny how all the Sony fans are complaining about sequels when they are waiting for Uncharted 4, Infamous 3, God of War 4, GT6 just came out they're waiting for GT7, they can't wait for another LBP, they had another Killzone at launch and so on.

But hey.. it's N4G. Sony fans are always right, any other console or PC fan is wrong. MS fan can't wait for Halo 5. "Ha! Another sequel! Another FPS shooter!" "Come out with some new IP's!!!!"

But then on that very same N4G when a Sony sequel comes out... "YES! KILLZONE 3.. FPS FOR THE WIN!" "Yes! Another Uncharted! It's ok.. it's Sony's sequels!!! Only MS making sequels sucks!!"

Ya... search your feelings. You know it to be true

-Foxtrot3737d ago

"You" Sony fans

Look I may be a tad pro Sony but that dosen't make someone a "fanboy". If one company is doing things better then other companies at the moment then what the hell do you expect. As a gamer thats what you do, you look forward and support a company that is supporting YOU as a gamer.

Seriously the problem with you guys is instead of tacking things that the article on hand is about, you go straight to name calling. The amount of times I've heard "You Sony fans". Seriously you bring this silly Microsoft vs Sony nonsense onto yourself.

Oh and most people went on about Ryse...because it looked boring. Guess what, most people were right...it was.

The difference between Sony and MS like you are going on about is while Sony may do ANOTHER fps game they have proven thats not all they focus on.

BlackTar1873737d ago

Midnight,

Gears: 4 around 6 yrs. will be 5 in 7yrs
Halo: 8 games 10-11yrs will be 9 in 11-12
Forza: 6 games 6 years

Infamous: 2 games in 4 yrs will be 3 in 5
Uncharted:3 games in 6yrs will be 4 in 7(depends)
God Of War: 4 games (Console) in 7 yrs including PSP 6 games in 7 yrs.
GT:7 games in like 15 yrs

Mister_Dawg3737d ago

@Foxtrot
"Knowing nothing about a new IP is better then no new IP"

Strange comment. If there is no new IP, then there was nothing to know about in the first place.

cellur1113736d ago

Another gears game. That's going to be great because we all know how great they are.

jb2273736d ago

Microsoft have been the kings of double talk regarding this whole situation. First Phil Spencer is singing Black Tusk's new Ip's praises, calling it "the next Halo", then it's no longer a new ip, it was always just "some concept work". They are saying that this gen is all about great exclusives and new ip's, while the only "new ip" in the cards is Project Spark and Quantum Break, meanwhile all of their visible resources have been put into keeping games off of other systems instead of creating new ones on their own. I really felt like MS had a shot at taking on Sony's role from this last gen as the best platform for variety in exclusives, and I was ready to drop the coin to support that, but for as often as they claim it's all about the new games and the future, it's obviously more about trying to squeeze past successes for every drop of money and credibility they are worth....e3 would need to have some HUGE reveals of exclusive new ip's w/ firm, concrete release dates before I'd ever trust MS w/ my money. It's pretty unethical to me to sell your box w/ firm promises of new experiences only to backtrack and backburner all of that in order to keep the dudebros xbox live bucks rolling in. Say what you will about Sony and Nintendo, but at least they try new things from time to time that include actual honest to god games and not "promises of new experiences"

Automatic793736d ago

Your comment makes no sense. Sony is doing the same thing and your knocking MS who already announced more new IP.

Automatic793736d ago

Your a fanboy and you know it. If yo don't like what MS shows then don't worry. But don't pretend your something that we all know your not. Your a bandwagon jumper just from your comments. Go ahead spin your bs.

+ Show (13) more repliesLast reply 3736d ago
maniacmayhem3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

Well that pretty much 100% confirms that. I was wrong in saying BT might still be able to work on whatever it was they were working on.

We probably won't see anything Gears related until next year given how long these development cycles are. I am very curious to see what they do with Gears, I am really hoping they take it in a new direction with familiar game mechanics.

I'm still interested in what MS has in store for other IP's though.

lifeisgamesok3737d ago

Epic says they have a slew of Xbox One games coming out in 2015 I'm anxious to see what they are

Aces173737d ago

As much as I like Gears the should have focused on a new IP first. Now that they brought Gears there is no need to rush to make a new one.

Lilrizky3737d ago

They probably originally planned to do that, but what they didn't plan on is the success of the PS4. Gears makes a lot of money for Microsoft.

I mean after last year's fiasco, I think Microsoft has a lot to prove but it is making some right moves considering their current position.

SlavisH23737d ago

yeah m$ just paid $100 mil for rights. No rush in getting a return on their investment. Im sure shareholders would agree with you too. :P

Pinkdolphinyfg3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

I think 343i should work on a new i.p. Perhaps a sci-fi survival horror game akin to deadspace? They definetely have the art direction. Would also like to remind everyone that the producer of the first two gears (arguably the best ones) and Bioshock infinite is on board for this game.

Bolts-N-Rays11093737d ago

It's rumored that they are also working on another game besides the next Halo.

spicelicka3737d ago

Actually I think the rumour is that they're working on another halo game besides the next halo.

Which is great news for halo fans like me, but I'd rather see another ip since we're getting the regular halo games anyway. Don't want too much halo if the quality is compromised.

BlackTar1873737d ago

If they keep producing Halos man ill be sad when i have to stop playing them out of sheer over saturation of the story arc.

Show all comments (89)
340°

2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer

Xbox has been lagging behind PlayStation in terms of 1st party content, but 2024 offers the platform and Phil Spencer a chance at redemption.

Read Full Story >>
twistedvoxel.com
isarai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Nah, that time has passed for many, and with their words on future plans, i really don't see it ever happening.

shinoff218317d ago

It's a wrap. Now is the time they are slowly going to move on as to not to kill the base as is. Titles will slowly drip onto ps and Nintendo consoles, etc. Those 4 already had to of been in development for awhile already cause two of them released really soon after the announcement

VenomUK17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

There is no ‘last chance redemption’ for Phil Spencer - he’s going straight to hell for tanking the Xbox console platform.

_SilverHawk_17d ago

"2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer"

I thought that was supposed to be a decade ago

Ironmike16d ago

U do rel7se ps5 is at thr moment only getting g those titles that were mentioned nothing else as of yet

Obscure_Observer17d ago

"Nah, that time has passed for many, and with their words on future plans, i really don't see it ever happening."

Xbox has PLENTY of first party games this year while Playstation has none!

There´s more first party games from Xbox Games Studios on PS5 this year than Playstation Studios own games.

Those are the *facts* and if those facts is not something to Sony be ashamed of, they can´t feel shame at all.

VersusDMC17d ago

Granblue Fantasy versus, FF7REBIRTH, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade will have launched on PS5 and not on Xbox by the time Hellblade 2 launches.

This only first party games count is cope.

And as a bonus meme...Microsoft will have published 3 first party games on PS5 (Hifi rush, Grounded and sea of thieves) before their first for the year on Xbox(hellblade 2). Glad they have their priorities straight...

lodossrage17d ago

It's funny when people like to say xbox has more games coming to playstation this year than sony does.

YET, they leave out the context that Microsoft literally bought the biggest (Activision) third party publisher and Bethesday (another big one). So congrats on having to buy giants in order to compete?

On topic, wasn't Starfield the "last chance" for redemption?

Am I to assume that if the games they have coming this year don't get positive, feedback then 2025 will be the year of redemption?

Obscure_Observer17d ago

@VersusDMC

"Granblue Fantasy versus, FF7REBIRTH, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade will have launched on PS5 and not on Xbox by the time Hellblade 2 launches."

None of the games you mentioned are first party. None. There´re more Xbox first party games on PS5 this year then Playstation´s own first party games, undeniable fact!

The real bonus meme is Sea of Thieves a game which PS fanboys used to sh!t on

"And as a bonus meme...Microsoft will have published 3 first party games on PS5 (Hifi rush, Grounded and sea of thieves) before their first for the year on Xbox(hellblade 2). Glad they have their priorities straight..."

Imo, the real meme is Sea of Thieves, a 6 year Xbox first party game which diehard fanboys used to mock and sh!t on, making to the top of the most pre-ordered game at PS Store in a year where Playstation has zero first party games.

https://twitter.com/BenjiSa...

Markusb3317d ago

and all will end up on playstation, and nintendo, if xbox was doing amazing they would not need ps or nintendo, if gp was amazing they wouldnt need pc. PS has multiple first party games in development that we dont know about. Look at how halo was treated, look at redfall, and look at starfield. Its fine to be loyal and prefer one platoform but to be wilfully ignorant about it just ridiculas.

badz14917d ago

LOL se we are moving from "exclusives" to "console exclusives" to now only "1st party exclusives" matters just after MS has bought 2 publishers for $77B??

Moving goalpost to always favor MS i. Your argument is getting tiring! Exclusives are exclusives! 1st or 3rd party, they are still exclusives. You do remember the PS2 literally killed the Dreamcast, Gamecube and the first xbox due to mostly 3rd party exclusives, right?

InUrFoxHole17d ago

Observe is actually correct. Sony paid to play. But we don't mention when they do it. When they do it we're totally cool with it. N4G 4lyfe!

Skuletor17d ago

Are they still counted as first party though?

fr0sty17d ago

“This notion that Xbox can only be this one device that plugs into a television isn’t something we see in the Gen Z research. Because nothing else is like that for them.

Some of them will have an iPhone, some will have an Android, but all the games and everything is the same. I can still get to TikTok on both of them, at least for now." - Phil Spencer

Read it and weep... all Xbox games are coming to as many platforms as they can put them on, and this is the first step towards them getting out of hardware entirely, just like Sega did.

Xbox has been Dreamcast out of the industry. You can deny it all you like, but it's happening.

northpaws17d ago

@Obscure_Observer

You certainly have more faith in Xbox than Phil Spencer does, I will give you that.

rpvenom17d ago

It's actually quite impressive watching you defend xbox. I respect the loyalty

wiz719117d ago

@VersusDMC here yall Sony fans go moving the goalpost again lol now this only first party things is a cope when yall was the one who started that crap in the first place. When Sony had all the first party games and Xbox was relying on third party , yall was shouting they had no first party games. Now the tables turn and suddenly it’s a cope. lol

wiz719117d ago

@lodossrage and so it’s also funny that the majority of Xbox first party games this year aren’t coming from any of those big studios lol except for Indy .. the biggest one this year is coming from a studio that Sony left and almost let that studio die after releasing two big exclusives on their console first. Now MS swoop in and saved them , then here they are with the best looking game this generation. Now that’s ironic , but you mention buying studios like Sony biggest studios weren’t BOUGHT my brother.

Yall need to be more worried about Sony closing studio after studio , the PSVR 2 dying , Sony losing billions , and the fact that yall biggest game this year as in Stellar Blade was once being developed as a multi platform game until Sony paid for them to be a second party studio. lol but you want to mention things being bought , your delusional

Crows9017d ago

Shame in the competitor buying up tons of dev teams in order to make that a reality? Yeah...there's no shame in that on the PlayStation side....

andy8517d ago

So now you're shifting the goal posts so only first party exclusives count. Amazing 😂

Profchaos17d ago

There's probably tons of games exclusive to Xbox that won't be on PS because of their early access clause.

However list the games that count helldivers 2 I'd argue has done more for gaming this year than any other title will.
It could be their only game and it would still be a great year because it was that unexpectedly good even haters of love service games are playing it

TheTony31617d ago

Still at it? Doesn't matter at this point. The games will eventually launch on PS5.

mkis00717d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I see you ignored his" only first party games count" line as if preordained. Is it on xbox? No...then it is ammunition. Meanwhile sony gets to passively soak up 30% of all ms game studios sales.

1Victor17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@obscured: “There´s more first party games from Xbox Games Studios on PS5 this year than Playstation Studios own games.

Those are the *facts* and if those facts is not something to Sony be ashamed of, they can´t feel shame at all.”
That says more about Xbox than PlayStation that they have to release games on rival consoles to stay afloat, Microsoft and YOU SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT FACT.

Edit After thought: it took Microsoft 6 years to finally fix their sea of bugs just in time to release it on PlayStation 🤷🏿

S2Killinit16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

On topic:
MS’s last chance was Starfield…
How many last chances are there?

@Osbscure
You’re moving the goal posts into places that have no basis in reality anymore.

+ Show (17) more repliesLast reply 16d ago
darthv7217d ago

Life is too short to hold onto grudges. Grudges against a console, game or company is just petty.

isarai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Has nothing to do with a grudge. Ive been waiting 12yrs for them to get back to their greatness, im done waiting and have moved onto just watching that ship sink as i play on literally every other platform

darthv7217d ago

^^... I still play on it, as well as the other platforms. Which is why I am not someone who dwells on the negativity like others do. there is always something for me to enjoy in this hobby.

isarai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@darth

Again, not dwelling on negativity, they legit haven't made anything i want to play since like gears 3 and halo reach. I did play Crackdown 3 and gears 5 cause i had hope given i was a huge fan of the older games, but that was a dud on both cases.

You're thinking it's way deeper than it is 🤣 make something worth playing and ill play it, i was hoping starfield would be that but again, dud.

darthv7217d ago

^^...I never said YOU were doing that... but its obvious others (here) do. Its all they seem to do is dwell on negativity, especially if its XB related. all im saying is there is more to enjoy than there is to complain about. And this is exactly why I play all the platforms instead of just one. You say you do the same... so just enjoy it.

neomahi17d ago

It's fanbots making their last stand in an attempt to save the Xbox, what more can one expect that the most optimism they've ever had. Xbox can't get a lock in Japan, still, and Europe is about to abandon it as well. What're you gonna do? And what happens IF Japanese generates interest? They'll see Europe losing interest and decide it's not worth it either. And it's not just Xbox, Microsoft as a whole is losing their footing. They've backed on subscriptions with everything they have to offer and it's tanking. Xbox needs to port to PlayStation and Nintendo while they can stay relevant and try to stay relevant, the longer they delay, we could see a complete Microsoft nose dive

S2Killinit16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

And you think MS fans are just dandy? Besides, is it a grudge if MS continues to give reasons for people to despise them?

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 16d ago
Markusb3317d ago

when you cant make enough from your own platform and pc and you have to go to ps and nintendo you know its a slow transition to 3rd party publishing, and that is fine. Xb never had the thurst or ambition after the 360

JackBNimble17d ago

The second they decided to put exclusives on the ps5 they blew any chance of redemption

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 16d ago
-Foxtrot17d ago

Even if they managed to get a win this year it dosent overthrow 10 years of mostly disappointments from Phil’s leadership.

RaidenBlack17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Then this way, no company can redeem themselves. The very concept of redemption arc becomes impossible if the past is refused to be forgiven, even if the company manages to better themselves.
Then the now popular redemption arc of No Mans Sky or Phantom Liberty wouldn't exist in the gaming community if the same logic is also applied there.
Not defending anyone here but I want gaming to improve, companies to better themselves and most importantly competition to exist so that we get offered the best products to enjoy.
(I know in typical N4G fashion, this comment will be downvoted to oblivion, but I want good games offered from every studios irrespective of publishers.)

staticall17d ago

@RaidenBlack
IMO, what @-Foxtrot means, one years doesn't mean much. It's a start, yes, but they need more, much more.

Look at your own example, No Mans Sky - they didn't just release one patch and everyone started praising them, no. They've been doing this consistently. If Microsoft will start releasing good games consistently, that'll be great, no ifs and/or buts! But hyping them up in advance (no worthy releases yet is what i mean) - dunno, i might be wrong, but i don't think it's healthy or helps anyone.

rippermcrip17d ago

Your analogies are terrible. A company releasing a single game that failed to meet expectations.

Isn't the same as Phil Spencer making mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake, telling lie after lie after lie after lie for 10+ years.

isarai17d ago

Your whole comparison makes no sense. It literally took years for both of those to "redeem" themselves in the container of a single game. MS has been lacking for 12yrs starting with the halo/gears/forza criticism begining in the latter half of the 360. So even by YOUR logic, he's right, it's gonna take a lot more than one game to be redeemed ESPECIALLY after fumbling what many were already holding as their chance at redemption with starfield

Chevalier17d ago

It's not Playstation or Nintendos fault that Xbox poses no competition. They've had more support and more money behind them than Playstation and Nintendo combined!

You say you aren't defending Xbox, but, you kind of are. Xbox has been completely mediocre for decades. The last time Xbox was competitive was the 360 era. My 360 collection absolutely demolishes my Xbox One collection and so far Series X hasn't had much reason for me to jump to a purchase.

Can you honestly say Xbox is 'competitive'?! I would say not even close.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 17d ago
Silly Mammo17d ago

With the gaming media, Xbox is always just one game away from redemption and success. It's willful ignorance that they think there's a 'magic bullet' that will somehow erase all the moves by Phil & the gang of the last 2 console generations.

"Well there's always next year!" Should be the official Xbox slogan

Chocoburger16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

100% this Mammo!

They've been screwing up for over a decade! Even if they release a game that's of the highest quality, that's nothing in the grand scheme things.

It also doesn't un-do Kinect (with lies based advertising).

Or Kinect 2 (forcing people to spend $100 extra for something they didn't even want!).

Or releasing two consoles with nothing noteworthy twice in a row (One X, Series S|X).

Or releasing unpolished games such as Re:Core, Sea of Thieves, Halo: MCC, Halo Infinite, Redfall, and Starfield.

Let's not forget canceling games as well such as Scalebound,Project Spark, and the Phantom Dust remake.

Finally let's remember the broken promises of vaporware games, languishing in development Hell, such as Perfect Dark, Fable, Everwild, what else am I forgetting?

Redemption is far far FAR AWAY for Microsoft. It'll take a full decade of only making smart pro-consumer decisions and releasing plenty of amazing games in order to make up for it all.

2024? It ain't gonna do squat on its own.

Rols17d ago

It was the same old story in 2020, 2021,2022 and 2023. XBox has never delivered this gen.

Brazz17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Xbox360, the last time they delivered the goods, over 10 years Ago.

Skuletor17d ago

This headline just reminds me of the "wait 'til E3" comments we'd hear every year, before it was cancelled.

LG_Fox_Brazil17d ago

I wonder if the 2025's version of this article is already written, probably I would say

lodossrage17d ago

That's the same point I was trying to convey when I replied to Obscure

Hofstaderman17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

#wait till e3 2024

Aloymetal17d ago

''2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer''
We've been hearing and reading the same crap since the xbone launch, these shills/journos need to come up with something new. Good thing is most gamers know this is all BS, they all read ''"Step right up folks and hold out your money or sub to our service. You don't know what you are going to get, but like always, take our word for it" Signed Lord Phil.

Show all comments (88)
580°

Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes.

Spencer said publicly traded companies have to show constant growth or else nobody will give them money. "I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business"

LG_Fox_Brazil22d ago

I don't know Phil... You've being running, and some will say ruining, the Xbox brand for 10 years now, you know?

Profchaos22d ago

I'd say he'sade the best out of a tremendous cluster fk of a situation he was thrown into after Don tanked the Xbox brand from Kinect to the launch of the X1.

The only reason Xbox isn't in the Ms graveyard right now is because of Phil.

So I don't agree with everything he's done but I can see why these drastic pivots and moves have been made

VenomUK22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

You don’t hear Nintendo CEO Shuntaro Furukawa blame capitalism for the phenomenal success of the Switch.

You don’t hear now-departed PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan blame capitalism for the roaring success of the PS5.

Cockney22d ago

He was head of games back in don mattricks day so he should be held accountable for his involvement, the back half of the 360 gen and start of xbone lack of games was all him

Rynxie22d ago

The reason Xbox is not in the Ms graveyard is because of the money they are throwing around to keep the brand alive. Don was just a yes man, the stupidity of the Xbox one was MS doing.

romulus2322d ago

We are well past Don Mattrick at this point, people need to stop using that tired excsue. The issues with xbox for nearly the last ten years have been solely on Phil.

Plague-Doctor2722d ago

The PS3 tanked Sony and they recovered during the same generation. The Wii U tanked Nintendo and they delivered a record setting console only a few years later. At the launch of X1 it was keeping pace with the PS4 and in the US was occasionally beating it.

jwillj2k422d ago (Edited 22d ago )

All he had to do was say “the way forward is to make great games.”, drop the mic and make it happen by any means necessary. If you listen to the interview he gave after redfall came out, you’ll hear him say he thought the game was good to go and the internal team rated the game 85 out of 100. 85!! This shows how out of touch he is. He’s literally an empty vessel just collecting his check, running the division off of data-driven analytics, he doesn’t care about xbox and now pulls a Trump, blaming the clouds for his failures.

Cacabunga21d ago

Says the biggest capitalist company.. this moron should stop talking

sinspirit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

No.. Phil was in charge of European studios and Kinect implementation since 2008. Those European studios he was in charge of were then full time Kinect developers as he was now in charge of all XBox game studios in 2010. This is why game quality has sucked ever since he was in charge and directly why the legendary Lionhead and the actual Rare devs are not there anymore. Phil is actually more to blame than anyone for the bad game quality and the Kinect push. And especially for the terrible XBox One launch.

He was the spearhead implemented employee for Kinect and Microsoft's new vision. The others were the talking heads appointed by XBox. And, honestly watching some of those old interviews it seemed like those XBox employees were possibly maliciously complient by telling exactly what Microsoft's new agenda was with Kinect and always online without dressing it up.

And directly on topic. No, Phil. Capitalism is voting with your wallet. XBox doing bad financially is in fact because of bad products, disappointments, failed deadlines, and especially lying, misleading, and broken promises for products. If you just released really good games and tried to innovate then you'd had a lot of sales.. oh and GamePass is losing out on a ton of sales which can not be recovered from a few microtransaction purchases, monthly sub costs, or even whales. The math is simple when you could have sold a $70 game 5 million times but instead maybe sold 1 million tops and now have to recoup a quarter billion of revenue from lost sales potential of the one title alone. But now you also don't want to release a lot of first party titles because of the direct loss in sales revenue from day 1 GamePass, and you don't want them to release really good games that take a little more time and money to make because you want them to be cost effective for GamePass release. So you intentionally plan to release a lot of AAA shortcomings at this point because the AAA badge is needed but you can't do it too well or GamePass will never actually profit. Even though they had said GamePass is profitable, it is absolutely not by much and never will be. And, they said that Zune was profitable a long time ago but they combined it with an entire category of products when Zune itself was bleeding money. They lose far too many direct sales that even the most generous math can not see how they could be making much money if any at all to make up for this business practice. This is what happens when marketing and trend chasing fool a business into pursuing the wrong thing to stay relevant when the clear answer all along was that they always did good when they just supported developers making genuinely full and good games.

Babadook721d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I kind of agree with you, but Phil is partly to blame.

I blame Peter Moore (for leaving). Everything went to pot soon after.

PapaBop21d ago

How many years ago was this now? I'll give him some credit for what he inherited but lets be honest, he hasn't exactly done anything praise worthy and has done a terrible job managing the studios Microsoft owns.

+ Show (7) more repliesLast reply 21d ago
Eonjay22d ago

I thought he said it was Gen Z. I can't keep up.

Hofstaderman22d ago

Its Gen Z who are extremely capitilist. Lol, Phil is a clown of note.

22d ago
fr0sty21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

He's kinda right, shareholders expect constant growth, which is unsustainable, but it is what they expect nonetheless. That's why, even though the games industry is healthy as it has ever been, because it isn't growing, everyone in the industry is panicking. Even though we're still selling just as many consoles as ever, they expect each generation to just keep on growing and growing, and when that doesn't happen, they start to freak out.

This is true of any industry, and it's why anytime a company goes public, their products usually end up going to shit. The shareholders expect more and more and more growth, cuz they want that stock price to keep climbing, and so eventually corners start getting cut, wages start getting cut, employees start getting cut, they start cutting away everywhere they can to try to squeeze a little bit more money out of the product, until they ruin it, and then they move on to the next product.

buffig21d ago

Yeah, but everyone knows how capitalism works. This part didn't need explaining. The problem is that they bought massive plublishers for a gazillion dollars, to the detriment of the industry and now he's acting like he has no choice but to fire thousands of people because he just found out about nasty capitalism

TheEnigma31321d ago

Why I'm glad companies like Valve stayed private.

SyntheticForm21d ago

He'd never blame himself, so he's trying to score points with the kids by blaming capitalism. One of the biggest capitalists is blaming capitalism for his and Xbox's failure.

fr0sty21d ago

I agree with you, which is why I said he's "kinda" right... he's right in the fact that capitalism is behind a lot of investors freaking out that the games industry, while still healthy, is not continually growing unsustainably, but he's also being hypocritical in the same breath after buying half the industry and then laying off thousands of them, and using his own business practices as an excuse to cover for his failures.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 21d ago
mandf22d ago

It won't be until halo and gears are on playstation that xbox fans see phil for who he is. A snake fighting only for himself. The video game industry means nothing to him just his paycheck to those who believe phil is passionate and loves video games you are part of the problem. You never hold ms accountable.

Minute Man 72122d ago

Halo and Gears only when Microsoft drops outta the console market

-Foxtrot22d ago

They don't need to drop out of the market for that to happen

They will always have some kind of console going forward but Halo and Gears could only be a few years away at this rate.

Next gen might look completely different

Tacoboto22d ago

I'd actually hope for Halo to come to PS and Nintendo at this point.

The community rejected a mictotransaction option so MCC is no longer maintained - no new revenue streams and Microsoft listened. Infinite is on Content Updates now instead of Seasons - dwindling playerbase and less excitement. If MS wants the franchise to thrive, that's free money and the same could essentially be said for Gears bringing them abroad.

FinalFantasyFanatic22d ago

@Tacoboto,
To be fair, Halo Infinite had a rocky start to begin with, I think they improved for a while, but fell behind again.

shinoff218321d ago

The writings on the all in huge fking letters. Just read it.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 21d ago
phoenixwing22d ago

I don't blame Phil for that in the slightest. If you were offered to be an executive of a company 9 out of 10 ppl would take the job for the salary and give little crap about how they feel about any given product they sell. He's not wrong that capitalism drives greedy companies but you have to take the good with the bad.

staticall22d ago

@phoenixwing
But the person is doing a bad job and the company (including customers) are suffering because of that, how can you not blame him? The reason for high paying is the decisions you make and the responsibility you take for your actions steering the company in the right direction (if company is doing bad, it's your fault; if company is doing good, it's because of your decisions).

It reminds me of that South Park Bill Owens parody ("Follow that egg" episode), a governor who wants all the money and recognition/respect, but doesn't want to take any responsibility, how backwards is that?!

Petebloodyonion21d ago

@Staticall
Agree but what are your metrics for doing a bad job?
Is Microsoft's share value tanking due to its decision?
Is brand awareness worse than in 2016?

As someone who works in investment, this is how I see it and why Spencer's still around.
1) Grow the Xbox brand awareness by including PC and Gamepass making it a stronger brand by name versus 2015.
2) Showed a plan to evolve profitability by having multiple sources of recurrent income with Gamepass, PC gaming, streaming, and now other platforms
3) made new market integration possible via PC and cloud.
4) Can make hard decisions for the good of the company like cutting jobs.

staticall21d ago

@Petebloodyonion
I would say, we shouldn't look at Microsoft themselves, they have a ton of revenue streams - Windows sales, hardware sales, Office sales, Azure, government contracts, certification programs, etc. We need to look at Xbox - hardware sales are in decline (Xbox 360 > Xbox One > Xbox Series S + X combined). GamePass subscribers aren't growing enough and, according to the Microsoft docs, are at plateau. Games sales are abysmal (both physical and digital, thanks to "Day one on GamePass"). Xbox exclusives doesn't exist anymore (every game is coming to PC). And it didn't start yesterday, this was happening for a long-long time.

In my eyes, brand recognition doesn't mean much, if it doesn't translate to console sales, because Phil took away every reason to buy Xbox console for a regular customer (i used to own Xbox 360 and saw 0 reasons to own Xbox One or Xbox Series).

I would also argue that he didn't make any hard decisions, at least when it comes to games: Crackdown 3, Redfall, Halo Infinite - he was saying that those games are looking fine only to be laughed at on presentation/release. But i would consider that a low blow, because he did cut some jobs. But not from top management (who are responsible for the decisions).

In my eyes, as a console owner/gamer, doing good job as a platform holder = supporting your console with high quality exclusive games (like Nintendo and Sony are doing). I'm fine with releasing the games afterwards on PC, but not right away (otherwise, what's the point of a console?!). Extra services are fine (like PS+ or GamePass, or cloud stuff), but they wouldn't be a reason to buy a console for me. Phil is overfocusing on extra services, not on games. And it doesn't work out and haven't worked out for what, 10 years already? Sorry, i feel like i'm rambling at this point.

Nooderus22d ago

He's a Microsoft executive. Duh

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Agree except I think the real snake is MS itself. They are a terrible company. This clown is just the hired man for the job.

phoenixwing21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Thats basically what I'm trying to say and if you really want to get down to it. It's the board of directors for the company who makes this stuff happen.

jznrpg21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@Phoenixeing it’s his job as the head of the division to tell those people I think you are wrong and for success we need to this - that’s literally his job. MS motto is a big problem and Phil going a long with it is also his fault. He’s the one guy who can say something.

Abear2121d ago

Agreed they are the problem.

M$ doesn’t care about the quality of the game, they care about the profitability of the game.

When you work for a Co. like M$ you know this. It’s all about money—not the “art” or what’s healthy in the industry for devs and/or the consumers.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 21d ago
M3talDiamond22d ago

First its Gen Z now its capitalism but we can all agree that it definitely isn't Phil

JackBNimble21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

If it wasn't for capitalism there would be no xbox or Microsoft for that matter. But as the head of xbox division it is his responsibility no matter good or bad .... that's what it means to be the boss. If that's to much for him, then he needs to resign.

-Foxtrot22d ago

Kind of funny because when it comes to capitalism Microsoft is one of those great big American companies that just screams it.

They spent billions on Minecraft, Zenimax and Activision yet couldn't afford to save all those jobs they cut. With the money they make within a year they could have, someway.

PhillyDonJawn22d ago ShowReplies(3)
FinalFantasyFanatic22d ago

They've been swallowing up a lot of AI companies too and spending big on that area.

S2Killinit22d ago

If MS gets into AI they will cause the end of humanity the way they are causing the end of console gaming.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@S2Killinit,

It's between Microsoft and Google, the chances are one of those two will take the AI crown considering the amount of cash they're throwing at that sector. I suppose Microsoft might be the worst out of the two, but Google hasn't been exactly great compared to the old days when they threw around their old adage of "do no evil".

Silly Mammo21d ago

MS is making millions of dollars annually with the Xbox brand. Unfortunately, they're spending billions on acquisitions too

8bitAssassin21d ago

Game Pass games are not free.

Christopher21d ago

He also blames his bank account balance on capitalism.

PhillyDonJawn21d ago

I don't think it work like that. MS is the parent company. The branch has its own budget to maintain.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 21d ago
thorstein22d ago

Making millions, taking million dollar salaries and bonuses but it's the dev in the chair that's preventing profit?

Yeah okay, Phil.

Show all comments (146)
320°

Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox's saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

Nathan Brown: "Phil Spencer spoke to the press at GDC last week, offering some context/spin on Microsoft’s recent manoeuvres, while dropping a few now-customary hints about the Xbox division’s future plans. I take one issue with this: I am no longer sure Xbox has much of a future to speak of. Moreover: I think Phil Spencer, for so long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may ultimately be remembered as the man who killed it."

Read Full Story >>
videogameschronicle.com
24d ago
gold_drake24d ago

his decisions over the years were definitely questionable at best.

but MS let him be the head of xbox for this long, so they either dont have anyone else for the job or .. we'll i dont rly know any other reason haha.

-Foxtrot24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Basically when we had that awful Xbox One reveal in 2013 and Don Mattrick was thrown under the bus as the companies scape goat Phil was pretty much the only one they had who wasn't a typical looking "corporate suit".

Despite the fact him being the head of Microsoft Game Studios and gladly going along with the lack of games nearing the end of the Xbox 360 life where it was basically Kinect, Sports, TV along with the same 3-4 IPs like Halo or Gears he was the best person they had for the job.

They didn't have anyone else basically and from that day onward he was seen as good guy Phil turning the studio around when all he was doing was reversing the silly decisions made and going along with whatever the higher ups or the board wanted for Xbox. Didn't make a difference in the end because everything they "reversed" with the awful Xbox One reveal ended up being implemented in small different ways surgically in recent years with Gamepass.

The guy apparently is such a huge gamer yet played Crackdown 3 and Redfall, thought they were good and released them anyway in those states.

PapaBop24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Not a typical looking corporate suit? The guy straight up looks like a used car salesman lol. To be fair, after Mattrick, I think anyone with half a brain could succeed him and look semi decent, whenever I think of his name, I immediately remember that "this is how to share your games" video from Sony.

S2Killinit24d ago

when I look at him, its cringe. The guy dresses casually to fool people. But he is as corporate as it gets.

fr0sty23d ago

His cocky smirk I've always found to be incredibly annoying...

MrDead24d ago

I would say his "why bother making games when others are already" decision is what has lead them here. MS does this, but they just buy companies that they want to do a thing then asset strip it and dump it, you can't do that in gaming.

Tody_ZA23d ago

He's the head of Xbox because Microsoft isn't a gaming company and they haven't done anything for gaming in more than a decade. They're a parent company looking to buy more kids to raise as investments. They will profit off ownership, off their games releasing on other platforms, because they can't create anything themselves. Slowly they'll make Xbox as a console completely irrelevant under the mantra of play anywhere. That's why Phil is still there. He shares their corporate vision of making bucks and doing nothing for the gaming industry.

SubtilizZer24d ago

“If they don’t have a story these days they’ll make one”
Drake.

RhinoGamer8824d ago

Phil's top skill is keeping his job, growing his net worth to over $25million, all while underperforming...

SeTTriP24d ago

Gotta respect it, he went from a gaming studio head to making 70billion dollar deals...he is the main character I gotta admit.he looks fun to hang around too.

MrDead24d ago

...why do I feel like I need a shower after reading that? One of the grossest thing I've heard, S tier blowing bubbles grovelling.

jznrpg23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I don’t respect moves that make gaming worse long term

XBManiac23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

(Phil 'wait for next year' Spencer)
Microsoft made the 71,933 millions deal because it was already started and, with Microsoft, it is not possible to go back and stop it. Does anybody think that deal would be an option in 2023 or 2024, with the nowadays sitiation of the industry? And in 2022? No, nobody would pay that money for Activision-blizzard-king... because it would not be recovered in more than 20 years of really hard and good work. Everybody are selling for less, not buying for more (Embracer, Tencent...). But bad decisions in a company like Microsoft are impossible to fix. It is like a very big Ministery, where if something starts, it can't be stopped. It happened before and Microsoft will do the same again, as they have enough money to burn... well... I hope, because if Microsoft dies... it will be the end of our known world. What could substitute it?

_Decadent_Descent23d ago

I mean, that does take a certain skill. lol

FinalFantasyFanatic23d ago

I guess he has skill as a salesman, look how long he managed to get people to wait on Xbox.

Show all comments (54)