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Xbox One Kinect and its utter failure for first time users

It's not all smiley faces and a show of white teeth in Microsoft's vision of a Kinect inspired household as experienced by real people.

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n4rc3747d ago

So... Kinect is a failure because some people are too stupid to learn a couple commands?

I don't follow the logic.. Some people are too stupid to use ATM machines but that doesn't mean they are hard to use or a failure..

Some people just arent that bright when it comes to anything related to technology.. Its not the techs fault at a certain point, its the users.

truefan13747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

This was written by a ps4 fan, Kinect is awesome. People just make up problems or don't even try to learn the correct commands.

Shinuz3747d ago

Well if its the same thing as on the 360 then it doesn't really work all that great, mine would constantly lose tracking of us, sometimes we could play for about 1 hour before it starts happening and sometimes after only about 15 minutes of playing, we needed to walk out of the camera's range and then come back for it to pick us up.

And that's in two completely different apartment, one with a small room and another with a large room, tried with lights on-off, curtains closed-open.
It looked cool on paper and the videos but in real life it wasn't all that great.

BallsEye3747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

@shinuz
I had old kinect which wasnt working well as you said. New one however did deliver in every way. Cant imagine using my xo without one now.

KennersEd3747d ago

Please provide proof that this piece was written by a so-called "PS4 fan"

Seriously why does any negativity towards Microsoft instantly branded as coming from a Sony fanboy?

all fanboys are bad news to gaming,
Grow Up.

truefan13747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

@Shinuz, you just cleared it up nicely, without even knowing it. 90% of the people bash it, have never even tried it, you kind of just proved my point. Its called Kinect 2.0 for a reason, its a significant upgrade, but I guess only people who have it will know.

Volkama3747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

Just being pedantic here, but it's not actually called Kinect 2. Not officially anyway.

raWfodog3746d ago

I disagreed with your point that this was written by a PS4 fan. The author clearly does not mention PS4 anywhere in the article and states that he uses the Kinect with a high success rate. His article centers around his girlfriend's problem with using it since she is clearly more of a casual player. His complaint was that it was not optimized for non-techy, first-time, casual users.

Don't get sucked in by provocative titles.

truefan13746d ago

I read the article, I came up with that conclusion becuase I don't see an XB1 user who has used it call it a failure. This sounds like the people who make up that they had a 360 last gen, but are switching to ps4 this gen. Its not as complicated as he and his title make it seem.

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Volkama3747d ago

My 5 year old can operate Kinect just fine. At first every time I'd say "XBox show my games and apps" he'd respond with "no Xbox, show our games and apps" but apart from that he picked it up immediately.

The only trip up for normal people is the whole "XBox On/XBox Turn Off". They should make "Xbox turn on" work just for consistency.

Charybdis3747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

For first time users (mind the first time) it can certainly be a hassle, the xb1 should definitely allow for more flexibility in the wording of commands and like mentioned in the article better tutorials for systems and its functions would also be great.

Also think using hdmi in to watch tv is a choice not a must. For people wanting both a splitter might also be a good alternative. Try it don´t like it unplug it use splitter either way its a possibility.

We are all critics and thats a good thing Microsoft should keep improving their software while keeping in mind that their system might also be used by first timers non-gamers and non tech savy people.

MetaReapre3747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

Well i haven't read the article all the way through, but i can safely say that it's not quite that it fails but it is kinda bad. As you've seen in most xb1/kinect 2 reviews stating when it works it's great. However, they do emphasize the "when it works" part. In all honesty, the kinect still doesn't respond better than a controller and therefore i feel that the kinect is needless. I don't own an xb1, but my best friend does and he just leaves it disconnected because he finds a controller better anyway. I've tried it, of course, because it seemed like it would be amusing and it is. It's just a little troubling when it doesn't want to recognize your hand though (i didn't try the voice things though, I'm a quiet person and would prefer not to talk to the machine). And just to throw it out there, yes I bought a ps4 over an xb1.

n4rc3747d ago

Whole different animal.. The gesture control is pretty bad..

Voice on the other hand works almost perfectly.. It has a few drawbacks that come with all voice technology so it's not a knock against kinect itself.. Noise or inability to interpret incorrect commands etc

Bigpappy3746d ago

You are tripping up a bit there because your friend would not have to go through the trouble of disconnecting Kinect to exclusively use the controller. Disconnection it is actually more of an annoyance than leaving it connected.

MetaReapre3744d ago

@bigpappy
He disconnected it to save space around his TV, he has a lot of electronics and stuff like a ps3, 360 and now an xb1 with a really nice surround sound and all. He doesn't have the space to waste on something he doesnt use.

malokevi3747d ago

I'm a first time user, and couldn't be happier. They work so well, that my PS4 barely get's any action. The number of steps that Kinect cuts out of my consoles use means that my PS4 is only on when I want to play games... and with BF4 on my Xbox, there's only so much I play Warthunder and KZ.

Kinect has very much changed the way I look at console interaction. Makes navigation a million times easier. Whether I'm using Kinect, Xbox Music, Bluray, opening apps, or launching games, things are so much easier with kinect around that I can't imagine going back. Most of the time I don't even know where my controller is, doesn't even occur to me to look until I want to play a game. It's a good feeling, having my hands busy with one thing while being fully functional on the console.

I don't need anyone to tell me that the Kinect doubters are fanboys and desperate "journalists". It's just a fact. Like the sky being blue. My experience with Kinect confirms to me that articles like this are nothing more than fodder for the people who desperately want Kinect to be bad. Kinect is one of the primary reasons I will be getting all my multiplatform titles on my X1 this generation.

otherZinc3746d ago

You know, it's a shame these hate authors don't know we have a XBOX ONE with Kinect, And It Works!

I say XBOX On, my Onkyo turns on, my Samsung 50inch turns on, SportsCenter is on; I even think my garage door opens & my suv rolls out heated and ready to go!!! XBOX ONE & Kinect are great.

Stop the hate before others find out what the owners of the XBOX ONE already know...it works.

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JeffGUNZ3747d ago

So basically your partner has trouble learning the basic commands and we need to write this? Give me a break. Either you didn't teach her or she isn'y paying attention. My girlfriend, who just started gaming and hasn't gamed in about 15 years since she was in grade/middle school, was able to pick this up quickly. It works fine for me and everyone else I know who owns one. If you expect to never repeat yourself ever, well I don't know what to tell you.

I am sick of people jumping down kinects throat for user error. All one needs to know is "xbox select" and it will turn everything green on the screen and all you have to do is say what you want to do. My Gf can use it flawlessly and loves how it controls everything and she never has to use any remotes or controllers to navigate anything. In the time it took to write this bogus article, you could have explained the basic commands to her and she might get it. It needs to be specific commands or else it would be jumping all over the place if someone was in the room just talking about xbox while you were playing.

n4rc3747d ago

It reminds me of stickers we used to stick on workstations..

Intel inside, idiot outside

patsrule3163747d ago

I have both a PS4 and an XB1. Right now, I am superbly happy with the PS4, as it does what it is suppossed to do...every time. No issues at all so far. The XB1, I am disappointed in. It plays games fine too, and has some nice features...but the TV part of it through the kinect for my family and me is very much like this article says. Very frustrating, the voice commands often have trouble, the gestures don't seem to work at all. It does instantly recognize me. But when I tried to use a QR code that I got on my computer for Major Nelson's twitter feed, it took about 2-3 minutes to recognize the code, not the 3 seconds like he demonstrated in his video. Plus, it just feels wrong having to leave the xbox on the whole time you want to watch tv, even if you aren't using any of the Xbox features....seems like a waste of energy to not even have the option to watch tv without having the xbox on full power (obviously I could go back to plugging the HDMI from my cable box back in to the TV directly to get around that). Anyways...all of the issues with the XB1 is leaving a sour taste in my mouth, even though I the games work fine and there are some cool features.

infectedaztec3747d ago

I had the same issue with the QR thing when using it on my phone, but when it was on a piece of paper (like my XBL code) it recognised it instantly.
You have understand that your phone/screen is a light source in itself and may interfere with the kinect's comprehension. You can even see in the camera feed that the code isn't legible. But I've noticed when I have the lights on in the room it works much better.

Its not really a failure of the kinect, just an obvious limitation of the technology (it can't do everything perfect).

My suggestion is turn on the lights in the room, reduce your screens brightness, or even print out the QR code

nategrigs3747d ago

or just take 4 seconds to type it in

patsrule3163747d ago

@nategrigs

How would one go about typing in a QR code in 4 seconds? or at all?

Volkama3747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

The gesture control is indeed rubbish. Not because the Kinect's tracking capabilities, more that it's just a clumsy implementation.

To clarify, I'm talking about the whole palm out to move the cursor, push the palm forward in a really awkward unnatural way to select and hope the cursor doesn't move.

giovonni3747d ago

I can agree with that, I have had problems using the hand gestures and navigating the screen using my hands. Outside of that, I haven't had any real issues with Kinect.

BattleTorn3747d ago (Edited 3747d ago )

I can attest to some of Cram's Kinect complaints.

Why must one say "Xbox play Forza Motorsport 5" and not simply "Xbox play Forza 5"?

Why must it be precisely "Xbox use a code" rather than "Xbox scan a code"?

Also, the stupid thing interrupts my roommate when his in online matchmaking, when I walk by, by asking if I want it to switch to my profile. "No, Xbox. I'd like you to not interrupt the THE PERSON PLAYING ATM!!!"

Also, when you 're-name' your Xbox, it automatically does a restart. Well, it sends a TV-off signal while powering down, yet does not send a TV-on signal when power back up. "Thanks Xbox for turning off my TV on a simple reboot!"

Another one, how has a genius at Microsoft not figured out that when the TV is ALREADY ON, that "Xbox On" shouldn't TURN OFF THE TV!!!!!!

GiantEnemyCrab3747d ago

That's the problem with the IR blaster I don't think it's smart enough to know that your TV is on/off. It just sends a single command for both. I agree it is annoying that my TV goes off if it's already on.

corvusmd3747d ago

UH...if Kinect only has issues with first time users...then it's not Kinect, it's first time users. Trust me it gets much easier and better the more you use it, you just have to learn to use the commands that Kinect is looking for...and YES there is slight genius to making kinect look for more complex and less used commands (so that you don't accidentally tell it to do something you don't want it to do...like turning the xbox off when you tell a camper to get off the ground in COD). Just learn what to say (I made the command list my computer wallpaper). Trust me, you learn to love it, especially when you are watching tv and eating.

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Xbox’s Phil Spencer: Licensing arrangements mean Xbox Fitness can’t be made available offline

Stevivor -- "Finishing up our recent conversation with Phil Spencer, Head of Xbox, we put him through a lightning round-style series of questions we affectionately dubbed, 'What would it take?'"

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Cindy-rella2733d ago (Edited 2733d ago )

Most likely another lie like when they said xbox one cant work without kinect. That they cant reverse drm policies. That xbox one exclusives wont be on pc and other lies. Probably its just a ruse to encroach on gamers freedom to own their games and a way to start to slowly implement drm again

Hoffmann2733d ago

Inb4 someone replies that this is again the Microsoft hating weird N4G community and not Microsofts own fault that people don't buy what they say anymore.

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Cindy-rella2733d ago (Edited 2733d ago )

Scorpio sounds amazing, i cant wait to buy it in two weeks. Sar sar

Getting Ps4 pro first day which will be the most powerful console ever and comes out in two weeks

Id like my name to be mentioned first on that list

gangsta_red2733d ago

"Inb4 someone replies that..."

Inb4 that, but not b4 the same old usual suspects spreading paranoia, conspiracy theories and all other sorts of BS.

AngelicIceDiamond2733d ago (Edited 2733d ago )

Yeah uuh huh coming from the usual Xbox haters coming in here every time to turn something insignificant and small into something big. OMG DRM COMING BACK!!

Morons...

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Perjoss2733d ago

remember when they said Halo2 was windows vista exclusive because it just wouldn't work on older versions, and then someone got it working on older versions of windows in a really short time, like less than 48 hours or something.

vallencer2732d ago

They're refunding people's money since they're shutting it down. My brother bought a few things and he was givin Microsoft cash back. The oh so evil company. It's not like they had to do that. But you're right let's focus on how they've lied to us. Except it's called evolving. They had a vision and it didn't pan out so they evolved their vision. How about that ps4 external hard drive support?? Oh wait it still doesn't exist. Yet if someone brings that up you always hear "well at least I can swap my internal hard drive out unlike the xbox." They've both said and done things they haven't delivered on or changed their mind. It's almost like their a corporation who wants to make money and change accordingly to do so.

TheUndertaker852732d ago

Right? Sony didn't reimburse people when they shut down the MAG servers effectively making the game a non-usable piece of content as the entire game was online only.

They also didn't reimburse people who bought the DCUO discs after the disc product became unusable.

jmetalhead778122732d ago

Exactly. I bought the P90X XB workouts, used them regularly for more than 2 years and they completely refunded every penny. Plus, they let me know 1 year ahead of time. Was not expecting that at all. Yet, these idiots seize any opportunity to trash MS/XB with no research whatsoever. I can picture these people on n4g all day refreshing the page so can be first to jump on an XB article to make some stupid comment.

Chris122732d ago

Hoffman and Cindy-rella trashing another Xbox article with their anti-MS propaganda and FUD. Grow up silly little boys.

TheUndertaker852732d ago

"“It’s about licenses,” he began, adding Microsoft only had a finite period with which to use fitness regimens by the likes of Jillian Michaels and P90X."

It's hardly hard to believe Jillian Michaels and P90X wouldn't have some type of terms, limitations, and clauses in the contracts for them to be used by Xbox Fitness. They both literally make a living off of similar products that both repackage constantly.

milliniumstylz2732d ago

I see this type of comment on every Xbox article now.

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-Foxtrot2733d ago

Oh no...if I die from a heart attack I won't be able to pay off my student loan and other debts

What...a...shame.

christocolus2733d ago (Edited 2733d ago )

It would be really cool If they could get it to work offline. It worked really well with kinect v2 and my friends and I enjoyed doing many of the workout routines.

OpieWinston2732d ago

Well my brother bought the P90X workouts on Disc a long time ago so I know I'll be fine borrowing a few of them from him.

Aenea2732d ago

You'd think MS would throw some money to these license holders so they could keep this game going, they've plenty money, so why didn't they? Might have been a simple business decision that it wasn't making enough money for them, nah, can't be, MS isn't like that, they are consumer friendly and not all about the money!

TheUndertaker852732d ago

It's not entirely up to Microsoft as P90X and Jillian Michaels market similar products that likely pays them nicely as well, in particular when they've released more than one and likely think they could move more units along with newer iterations elsewhere, bringing them more profit.

Aenea2732d ago

Then they can ask more money from MS! Or MS can just offer them a buttload of cash and make an offer they simply would be crazy to refuse!

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When Xbox Fitness gets lazy

Nicholas Simonovski and Andy Gray, both of Stevivor -- "I can say with 100% certainty now that I will not be going digital anytime soon. The reason for me no longer considering digital game purchases is the decision Microsoft made last week concerning Xbox Fitness. For those who didn’t see it, Microsoft announced that it would be ceasing support for the application. On June 27th they removed it from the Xbox Store, not a huge deal as those who have purchased games in the past were still able to play them if they were de-listed."

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Xbox Fitness users take to Xbox Voice to protest the app’s closure next year

Stevivor -- "Xbox Fitness fans have taken to Microsoft’s Xbox Voice website in an effort to keep the app alive."

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TheCommentator2848d ago (Edited 2848d ago )

This is one reason to like MS, they give users a voice and they actually listen to their customers. If they see people want a service they can keep it going or add it in. That's why we got BC and background music. Maybe they can release it as a download/retail disc?