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PlayStation Now Latency Being Tested On God of War: Ascension In This New Video

GearNuke: "God of War: Ascension is one of the games that is being released on PlayStation Now, the upcoming cloud streaming service from Sony. As expected from every cloud streaming service, it adds additional latency to controls."

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fooltheman3754d ago

Yeah, there'll be lag... but nothing that can't be incalculated by the player.

Detoxx3754d ago

Believe me you don't want that lag when playing a game like Dark Souls. The game is hard enough, even with 0 lag.

MasterCornholio3754d ago

Just think of it as an additional level of difficulty.

SonyNGP3754d ago

^
That's a terrible excuse.

fooltheman3754d ago

Yeah, but you're usinga game where timing is essential... for those games it can be indeed a problem.

malokevi3754d ago

lol. "another level of difficulty". I can't even play my WiiU through my X1 HDMI pass-through without Mario jumping off a cliff every 5 seconds. Latency like this is a game-breaker. There's no way around it.

Detoxx3753d ago

Welcome to N4G where people like to disagree about the obvious (5 disagrees so far)

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nevin13754d ago (Edited 3754d ago )

Wouldn't it get worse when more people are playing the same game?

nirwanda3754d ago

The same Reason psn kept crashing after Christmas too many people logging in on their new ps4s

ginsunuva3753d ago

The same game isn't streaming off one computer to multiple people. That's called one person is playing and everyone else is just spectating.

Mister_G3754d ago

Just an idea, but to keep latency under control they might adjust resolution dynamically. Lowering it if the 'net slows down.

Detoxx3754d ago

You really want to play 1080P-480P-1080-P-720P all the time?

Baka-akaB3754d ago

1080p ? those are ps3 games , there are barely any running that natively

The Great Melon3754d ago (Edited 3754d ago )

That would fix a bandwidth issue not latency. Places like Netflix and Amazon implement exactly what you mentioned for variable bandwidths.

The latency issue is difficult to fix. Information has to travel over and through a lot of copper, routers, and fiber before reaching the server at Sony which then has to send back a picture through more wire, routers, and fiber. Bandwidth issues are easier to solve than latency as you can often just get a larger amount from an isp. The same can be said for smaller latency.

The Great Melon3754d ago (Edited 3754d ago )

Lost a "'t" in the last sentence. Getting better latency isn't as simple as upgrading your bandwidth at your ISP. You effectively have to find another route to Sony which either means switching to another ISP or changing routing mechanisms such as going from DSL to something like T1.

Also, looking at from a physics point of view there is a fundamental limit at how fast information can travel. If the server is in New York and the user is in Los Angeles, it takes light (fastest thing there is) about 13 ms to go from the user to the server. Afterward the server needs to send the signal (image) to the user, so round trip in that contrived example is something like 30 ms.

_LarZen_3754d ago

The latency is either going to break or make this service. Going to be interesting to see how they solve that in the months ahead.

Crazyglues3754d ago (Edited 3754d ago )

Yeah this is a make or break thing, if it has lag it's done - you have to get it down to no lag..

I used Onlive, another streaming service the one I wish they bought, and they had no lag for someone with a good connection.

I used it for months and months and never had lag it was an amazing service, so either you get this down to no lag, or people will just play on there PS3..

Why in the world would I want to play the game with lag.. why would I want to pay for a lag service..

No it's a deal breaker, it has to have no-lag..

Sony has to fix this... If Onlive can do it, then they can get it down to no-lag - I'm sure Sony can get it to that level, they have to, for it to be a good service.

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sgtGanGreen3754d ago

lol OnLive have huge LAG.
You play over internet. What do you expect?
Minimum ping for controls to response is 120ms in ideal conditions

Tapewurm3754d ago (Edited 3754d ago )

@Crazyglues I think you summed it up well when you you said:

"I used Onlive, another streaming service the one I wish they bought, and they had no lag for someone with a good connection."

I truly feel that it will depend on the person's internet service and how fast/dependable the connection is that determines how well this service will work. People with cheap subscriptions to low end DSL and Cable will have issues more so than those with the faster subscriptions that cost a bit more.

Crazyglues3754d ago

@ Tapewurm

yeah I think your 100% right, I guess that was my mistake thinking Onlive didn't lag..

I have a really fast connect.. so I never lagged, it was like playing on my console for me..

-But I guess from looking at all the disagrees, I guess people were getting bad lag, so my bad.. I should have said I didn't get lag on the service because I'm on a really fast connect.

That did indeed come out wrong/ didn't mean to imply that there was no lag - should of said I got no lag..

Very good point Tapewurm and well said bubble for you my friend...

ginsunuva3753d ago

But latency will only decrease with time.

Sony can't control the traffic and congestion in the worldwide web.

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PlayStation beat Xbox cloud gaming users in 2021, new CMA data indicates

PlayStation dominated cloud gaming users throughout 2021, beating Microsoft's xCloud streaming by over 10%, but Xbox swings back at PlayStation in 2022.

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Nanukas435d ago

Good, i want sony to feel heat. Ordinary people win from good competition.

BehindTheRows435d ago

“Good competition” is not something Microsoft offers often. You should want THEM to feel enough heat to actually do better.

Nanukas434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

Agree. I wish sony would be more afraid of gamepass to get better games on ps+

Obscure_Observer434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

"You should want THEM to feel enough heat to actually do better."

Phil Spencer started to acquire studios back in 2018, after that, Xbox Studios only had 5 studios. Now Xbox has 23 almost 5x more studios. Not to mention third party exclusives like Flight Simulator, Contraband and Project Dragon.

Plus, unlike Sony, Xbox Studios won´t be distracted with things like VR, all of their first party efforts goes towards Xbox first and foremost.

Sony so can expect a much more robust Gamepass in terms of first party and third party exclusives games from Xbox from now on.

Since Sony have less studios and won´t release their games day one on PS+, they better make sure andl deliver high quality games like Ragnarok. Because so far, 2023 hadn´t started well for them with Forspoken.

https://www.videogameschron...

Sony spent millions to secure a AAA third party exclusive game build from the ground up for PS5, not to mention more millions spent on market to be outperformed by a AA game which costs less than half on Steam, had an EPIC day one surprise announcement AND release with ZERO money invested on promotion and marketing.

If that´s not good competition, I don´t know what it is.

BehindTheRows434d ago

@Obscure_Observer

It isn’t.

Obscure_Observer434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

"It isn’t."

Oh yes, it is. You can bet your life that both companies cares about their money and investments.

The simple fact that Sony continues to pay multiple publishers to keep games out of Xbox forever, is nothing but a reaction to Gamepass.

Imo, Sony now fears that once their timed-exclusive contracts ends, those games will be available on Gamepass the moment the said games hits the Xbox platforms.

Sony fears the scenario where gamers realize that it´s not worth to invest in every single game released on Playstation at full $70 once they´ll be getting it for "free" on Gamepass eventually, just like Yakuza, Dragon Quest, Octopath Traveler, Nino Kuni, Persona series and more.

ARK 2 (exclusive on Xbox consoles), S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2( exclusive on Xbox consoles), Flintlock, Wo Long, Atomic Hears, Lies of P, Eiyuden Chronicle, Hollow Knight: Silksong. Minecraft: Legends, MLB 23...

Those are just some of the games that Xbox players will be getting for "free" day one while Playstation gamers will have to pay for all of it.

So at least you´re rich or something, Xbox players will be getting way more NEW games to play than you. That´s just facts.

BehindTheRows434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

I can bet that one company brings actual competition, isn’t afraid to share losing numbers, and doesn’t buy huge publishers due to said weaknesses. That’s what I can bet.

As a fan of theirs, you should want them to do better and offer more than subscriptions services and unfulfilled promises.

tay8701434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

@obscure. Well Sony can't control 3rd party games quality, but their 1st party certainly trounces MS's. Spiderman 2 is going to a absolutely dominate the holiday season, just like ragnarok did this past holiday season. Sony easily has the best gaming studios out of the big three. It's.not Sony who has to worry about their 1st part output, it is MS.

MIDGETonSTILTS17434d ago

@Obscure: what AAA games would I buy an XsX today to play?

I own a ps5 and XsX, and I don’t know of one game that would have motivated me to buy an XsX ( I bought it to appease my dumb Xbot friends).

I bought a ps5 for Demon Souls (best looking game on consoles), Returnal (top 10 game of all time for me), and Dualsense upgrades for shooters (completely changes R6 for me).

So, can you illustrate how XsX is competing? I liked HiFi Rush a lot, High on Life too, but neither make we happy about the $500 I sunk into the hardware to play them.

Mr_cheese434d ago

Obscurer, you're saying an awful lot without talking much sense at all.

VR isn't a distraction, neither does it take games away from playstation. Sony have been building and harnessing studios just for this while working on their 1st party none VR titles.

Microsoft is fully committed to gamepass and that's fine for them and those that like to game that way. It will be an even better product if Microsoft can nail their 1st party games.

What I'd hate to see are more moves like the Activision and Bethesda purchases and attempts because it destroys the gaming ecosystem. I'd say the same for Sony as well because once the ball is rolling, they'll all start buying and diving gaming.

Obscure_Observer434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

"I can bet that one company brings actual competition, isn’t afraid to share losing numbers, and doesn’t buy huge publishers due to said weaknesses. That’s what I can bet."

Unfortunately for you, MS or Nintendo aren´t forced to play by yours or Sony´s rules. Fyi, Sony used to buy publishers back in the day. The only reason they aren´t doing it now is simply because they can´t.

As it is, Sony already owns 14.09% of Kadokawa´s shares while Tencent acquired 16% of the company's shares, which means 1/3 of the entire company ownership.

The only reason why Tencent owns more than Sony is because Sony couldn´t pay more for it. So spare me from this "victim complex" bs defense for Sony.

Phil acted as the "nice guy" for too long. To the point where stupid fanboys were all happy when Xbox acquired new studios and publishers, because the idiots were under the illusion that all future Xbox games would become multiplatform and be released on Playstation.

Yeah, they were stupid to the point of thinking that MS would turn into a third party developer for Playstation.

Reality hits hard and here we are. Now that they KNOW those games aren´t coming to Playstation, all that they can do now is cry and moan over games paid and developed by Microsoft to not be on their platform of choice.

They think they´re entitled to have anything and everything otherwise it´s not good competition.

Phil Spencer won´t stop. Be the Activision/Blizzard deal approved or not, he can just go after a single studio like CDPR for example and you´ll be here crying all the same.

I don´t care if Sony or Nintendo buys SquareEnix, From Software or even SEGA tomorrow. Because I have no problem buying products from those companies if they have the games I want. I care about games first and foremost. So don´t expect me to be on your sad place complaining about big a$$ companies running their business as they see fit.

Lightning77434d ago

"You should want THEM to feel enough heat to actually do better."

But when they do attempt to do better ppl complain about it.

BehindTheRows434d ago

@Lightning77

What genuine attempts have people complained about?

Lightning77433d ago

With the whole Bethesda thing. There was article on here not too long ago talking about how Bethesda investment will pay off for MS. The whole comment section everyone was whining about how MS was taking games away. So when MS competes everyone here complains on here. No matter what MS hurts feelings. It's quite funny actually.

BehindTheRows432d ago

@Lightning77

In other words, outside of publisher acquisitions, they have not really attempted to compete.

And "whining" happens on both sides, so I hope you are just as entertained when people bitch and moan about moves Sony makes.

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Crows90434d ago

Ps+ extra already has better games than gamepass. Just look at the highest scoring games...ps extra has more of them.

Obscure_Observer434d ago

Lol. What a joke.

PS+ relies on old games. Gamepass not only has day one first party games but also day one third party as well. Even from Sony. XD

S2Killinit434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

Exactly. “Day one” is a buzz word that makes these guys think they have a better line up but it has not amounted to much. If you look at what they have at any given time on their service its not that rosy. Not to mention “day one” also exists on PS plus just not for the first party AAA story games (which is fine w me as long as they continue making the hits).

Check out their list of day one releases for all the years they had gamepass. Its a joke.

Crows90434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

@obscure

I'd take good old games then new Bad games. Besides that wasn't his point and that has nothing to do with what I claimed. The op said that they should offer better games but they already offer better games. He did not say new games. Or even New Quality games. But to your point, I know that game pass lovers do enjoy their day one bad or mediocre games. It's all about value with you guys and not quality

GamingSinceForever434d ago

Some are going ape shit over Hi-Fi Rush but completely forgot about the Tokyo Wire dud the same developer last released. My point being there are hits and misses.

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Obscure_Observer434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

" It's all about value with you guys and not quality"

Lol. Your false narrative didn´t aged well.

All Metacritic scores for day one first party games
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Ori and the Will of the Wisps 92 on Metacritic
Flight Simulator 90 on Metacritic
Forza Horizon 5 92 on Metacritic
Halo Infinite 87 on Metacritic
Grounded 85 on Metacritic
Pentiment 87 on Metacritic
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition 87 on Metacritic
Hi-Fi Rush 88 on Metacritic

And that´s only from first party games/IPs on Xbox series consoles.

So much for your "quality vs quantity" BS narrative.

Oh, and we "Gamepass Lovers" also love old quality games as well. I also can give you a large list of high quality third party on Gamepass. Just ask. ;)

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GamingSinceForever434d ago

@Obscure_Observer… Forspoken was not a 1st party game from Sony nor should it be treated as such. Square Enix will comeback nicely with FFXVI I’m sure.

Besides Sony is entitled to some misses here and there because they actually take chances on new titles and release them regularly.

Bu the time Spiderman 2 releases everyone will have forgotten all about this terrible start you’re claiming.

Crows90434d ago

They're so anxious to try to nail Sony on something that they'll even bring up third party developers not under Sony. Oh look this time's exclusive that wasn't developed by a Sony studio was bad so Sony doesn't know how to do good games.

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Obscure_Observer434d ago

"@Obscure_Observer… Forspoken was not a 1st party game from Sony nor should it be treated as such. Square Enix will comeback nicely with FFXVI I’m sure."

In no moment I said it´s a first party game. Both Forspoken and FFXVI are exclusive Playstation 5 games which Sony invested large sums of money to secure to their platform. Just like the original Spiderman from Insomniac. (which till this day Sony fans treat it like a first party/IP)

So it´s pretty obvious if the game fails, Sony also fails and loses tons of money which could had been invested on first party games.

"Besides Sony is entitled to some misses here and there because they actually take chances on new titles and release them regularly."

True.

"Bu the time Spiderman 2 releases everyone will have forgotten all about this terrible start you’re claiming."

Also true. The same can be said about FFXVI, imo.

Abear21434d ago

The leader, Nintendo, doesn’t care what the competition does.

Obscure_Observer434d ago

"The leader, Nintendo, doesn’t care what the competition does."

Couldn´t agree more

BehindTheRows434d ago

The Switch is leading the PS5 because it launched three years prior. PS4 won last gen is all forms (money made, units sold, software totals).

No hate for Nintendo though, as they are another company who actually puts out quality games in high numbers, but just a little perspective.

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Orchard435d ago

“In 2022, Microsoft took the lead with 60-70% of total MAUs”

From 20-30% up to 60-70%? That’s some crazy growth. Probably thanks to Fortnite.

SurgicalMenace434d ago

That's what's up, young fella. You feel better now?

The Wood434d ago

All the other stats dont matter. Especially the ones where ps is tearing xbox a new one

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Obscure_Observer434d ago

“In 2022, Microsoft took the lead with 60-70% of total MAUs”

Probably one of reasons why Sony won´t return Activision´s calls.

BehindTheRows434d ago

Oh, yeah, THAT must be it….

Outside_ofthe_Box434d ago

You're not asking for numbers now, I noticed? 🤣

Orchard434d ago (Edited 434d ago )

Oops, somebody didn't read the article.

This isn't a "YoY increase". It's market share, so we know they had 60-70% of the streaming market.

MIDGETonSTILTS17434d ago

That’s why we game: to celebrate YoY growth!

Three cheers for first-party content-starving fueling third party max’s and subscriptions.

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Tacoboto434d ago

What a clickbait headline. Why mention 2021, when the tides turned in 2022 for the obvious reason of one company making the Cloud service one of their biggest marketing pushes throughout the entire year while the other company was able to promote the games they had coming out?

And it's imprudent to suggest crazy growth when we only know proportions - did Xbox grow its proportion by attracting from the competitors' bases, did their marketing pay off and attract new users, or did cloud gamers on competitors just not play as much? The MAU figures don't point to shifts as significant as the Cloud proportions do, and Microsoft's lack of raw subscriber numbers that they happily boasted about in 2021 is telling too.

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God Of War Tried Multiplayer Too Early

God of War's forgotten multiplayer mode was introduced nearly a decade ago, but it may have been a great addition if it was implemented now.

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mkis007511d ago

Ruined Ascensions story mode. Taking away the one button parry sucked.

abstractel511d ago

Not saying it was perfect but I really enjoyed it. One of the more unique MP experiences. Wouldn't mind them trying again.

Palitera510d ago

It was nuts that they actually managed to make that experience work so well.
The story might have been the weakest (story-wise) in the main series, but the MP was super fun and well done.

hotnickles510d ago

I don’t play god of war for the multiplayer so it’s always too soon in my book.

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Ranking the God of War Games

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ClayRules2012522d ago

I won’t rank Ragnarok just yet, although it is honestly leaving me and my wife blown away…won’t go into details right now, not done as I assume others aren’t either, maybe some of you are, idk haha.

But here’s how I rank them

5. God of War 3
4. God of War Ascension.
3. God of War 1.
2. God of War 2.
1. God of War 2018.

MrNinosan522d ago

My same ranking exactly, with Ragnarök at #1.

ClayRules2012521d ago

Wow, that’s pretty interesting that someone has the same ranking as me haha. So, did you beat Ragnarok? I assume so with you placing it at #1

Flawlessmic522d ago

1. God of war 3
2. God of war 2018
3. God of war 2
4. God of war 1

Haven't played the others but about 30 hrs In to ragnarock now so safe to say if it keeps up it will end up being at the top of my list when I'm done.

CrimsonWing69522d ago

I will say the pacing of the original titles and the epic feel to them I feel is way better than the new one’s. Like, I could recognize and appreciate the praise God of War received, but it bores me to tears except for the pivotal moments.

However, that being said I feel Ragnarok is waaaaay better than 2018. I’m only on Ch. 6, but it’s pretty much rocked my face off from the get-go.

I’m really split between this being my GotY or Elden Ring.

robtion522d ago

I think different games in the series had different strengths but all are great. I liked the original as it was an origin story and the mechanics were fresh. The sequel added smoother gameplay. Three was just so far ahead of it's time graphically it wasn't even funny. Plus great gameplay and bosses and insane gore and nice use of sexy time. The reboot was cool but lost a lot of what I liked about the original trilogy (I don't need my games grown up, just fun). Will wait and see with ragnarok as haven't had time to play it yet.