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Sony Patents PlayStation Remix (Cloud-Based Emulation)

Dylan Z of iGR writes: "Sony and Gaikai may be a step closer to unveiling their PS4 streaming technology."

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Majin-vegeta3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

Awesome.It's over 9000!!!!

himdeel3763d ago

Yep, I am looking forward to the details.

MWong3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

@ himdeel
Me too I want to know the prices (hopefully $5/each and some free for PS+ subscribers) and file size average. I want to play some of my PS3 titles on the PS4. Too bad those titles probably won't get a graphics boost, but still can't wait.

LOL @ it's over 9000. I need to dust of my DBZ dvd collection.

ABizzel13763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

Sound to me like it's probably for upscaling games up to 1080p, and adding PS4 features like screenshots, and recording.

"Adding mini-games"

I have no idea what this is for? Maybe to ease loading...?

rainslacker3763d ago

Last year they also had that patent which allowed trophies to be added to older games without having to change any existing code.

Would be cool to go back and play all those old games again for the trophies, since I do so anyways.:)

miyamoto3763d ago

Uncharted 2 has been using cloud technology since 2009 and look at that great game's graphics.

Fast forward to 2014 you would wonder how much Sony has mastered using the cloud for Gaikai and PS4 games!!!!!

P0werVR3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

^

Mastered?! ....LOL! Yeah sure.

Until you you can claim on developing new gen triple A games and can add live content to it. Then we can talk about mastering cloud. Other than that, Sony with cloud computing features is on the back-end here compared to Microsoft. Future proof!

abzdine3763d ago

@P0werVR:
I heard that X1 becomes 10times more powerful when using cloud? Do you have any proof of that now that it's out?
how about Forza 5 1080p impossible without the cloud?
please keep quiet don't ingest any BS you hear.

mikeslemonade3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

Hopefully there's a subscription base with a PS plus discount.

Looking forward to playing all those platforming games and RPGs.

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Mikey322303763d ago

over 9000?
sorry newb question.. what do you mean?

moujahed3763d ago

So you're a DBZ newb? Wow.

asyouburn3763d ago

Over 9000 was a large wooden ship primarily used in the civil war

mt3763d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I want to watch dragon ball again for the 9000 times.

cell9893763d ago

you must not watch a lot of tv, specifically anime. Thats a reference to the popular show Dragon Ball where power levels were measured and 9000 was the max, so anything above 9000 was insanely powerful

CryofSilence3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

@cell989

And it turns out that 9000 is pathetically weak when you find out Frieza's second form is over 1 million (and final form much stronger than that). Then 1 million becomes pathetically weak as the saiyans go through their different saiyan forms, which I believe hit 2.5 billion.

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kazuma9993763d ago

Lmao in dragon ball z vageta aka goku's rival used his scouter on goku and then nappa said what is his power level vageta? He then says ITS OVER 9000!!!!! and breaks the scouter.

MONOLITHICIDE3763d ago

Wasn't freeza like 1000000 or something. I haven't watched dragon ball z or dragon ball since the 90s.

MestreRothN4G3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

Enjoy it while it lasts. The excitement will end as you play your first game with the neverending INPUT LAG.

It doesn't matter which connection you have. You'll always be playing the game somewhere else. You'll send you command, the server will wait until it gets there and send you the graphics back. You'll only see the result of your action when you receive the graphics.

This service doesn't have ANY chance of being barely decent. Enough said.

MONOLITHICIDE3763d ago

And you know this. Gaikai is promising the fastest network to date so well see won't we.

bradleejones3763d ago

Apparently you never used Gaikai. I was using a Dell Inspiron 6000 stock and playing Crysis 2.It looked incredible with no lag. At the time I had 25mbps which is not insane fast or anything.

MestreRothN4G3763d ago

Pretty low standards, I see.

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KwietStorm_BLM3763d ago

Thanks. What part of the engineering process did you work on?

badz1493763d ago

@MestreRothN4G

have you tried Remote Play? if you have, you wouldn't be talking about input lag.

ZodTheRipper3763d ago

Ehm
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT
?

Stop trolling.

Shabutie133763d ago

"Have you tried remote play.."

You mean the one over wifi in your house? Yeah that works fine, because everyone has gigabit routers, for the most part. Have you tried remote play from a remote location? There is an input delay. There will always be input delay, roughly 2/3 the speed of light with IDEAL conditions. "But that is so fast", the matter of milliseconds when playing a shooter is in game life or death.

People will just buy on to any little piece of information they here. It's really pathetic.

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majedx93763d ago

Dragonball Z: Battle Of Gods Full Movie (English Subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Dannycr3763d ago

Who cares? The movie sucked b@lls anyway :P

fanboybeatdown3763d ago

Sony talks about the cloud? ... omgwtfbbq over 9000!
MS talks about the cloud? ... boo hiss down with MS liars

Honestly guys?

Majin-vegeta3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

Hmmm not sure if serious or not??

M$=Cloud can make xbone 3x more powerful

Sony=Cloud is used for streaming etc...

Do you see the difference or does someone else have to draw you a clear pix??

SoulSercher6203763d ago

Care to tell me how Sony's and MS's cloud are EXACTLY the same when they clearly aren't?

fanboybeatdown3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

Thanks for your offering to help, but I am already totally familiar with what Sony is doing with Gakai.

It appears, though, that you guys haven't thought it through.

When you consider the actual premise of what Sony is doing with Gakai and the streaming of actual realtime games through their cloud the promises of MS and Sony stumble on the exact same pitfalls.

Think about it.
Sony's cloud will be streaming game data, game graphics and textures, game AI (all in realtime) and then will be receiving gamer input from your gamepad to your PS4, then to your internet modem, then over the internet onto their servers, then processing the input on their servers, then mixing your received input with the game's response, then returning the signal to the internet, then your modem, then your ps4 which will then need to process the data again and display the signal on your TV. This will need to happen near instantaneously every few miliseconds, otherwise the whole thing will become an unplayable lagfest.

That's the truth of it, chaps.

Sony's cloud is a massive undertaking fraught with problems, in much the same way that MS cloud offering is.

This is why celebrating Sony's cloud and poo-pooing MS's offering is such a sad double standard.

Hope that helped you work it out.

GTgamer3763d ago

@fanboybeatdown
You act as if Gaikai never existed well it did and worked perfectly fine won awards and everything so I have no reason to expect anything less this time around :/ that's all I'm saying.

ibrake4naps3763d ago

Cloud is only real when sony does it ...

warczar3762d ago

I'm saving this conversation for the day when Microsoft finally comes out and admits that 3x more power through the cloud was just a bunch of bullshit. I'll message you with a picture of me streaming a PS3 game to my PS4.

Honestly Guy.

fanboybeatdown3762d ago (Edited 3762d ago )

Ah you guys still don't believe me.
I'll just leave this here
http://www.techradar.com/au...

I would say it works far from perfectly. It may work if you live in Japan, Hong Kong or South Korea and have a 100Mbps connection..good luck with that in TROTWorld

Just to throw some more cold hard facts into the mix, here’s some real life word internet speeds that fall short of what’s required for gakai streaming:
http://www.netindex.com/dow...

Also note I live in Australia and Australia’s average internet speed is 4.7Mbps.
Suffice to say Gakai in Australia will be a big fail with that amount of bandwidth. That's a no-brainer.
http://www.cnet.com.au/aust...

also, @warczar
Good on you for caring that much! I tip my hat to you for saving an internet conversation for 6-12 months just to prove you can take a gakai screenshot lol.

One thing tho. When you send me a screenshot of the gakai streaming, be sure to include statistics for game lockups, input lag, intermittent buffering and a sample of reviews from credible mainstream websites from around the world.

A screenshot by itself ain't worth a hoot... but you knew that right?

Honestly!
:)

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BallsEye3763d ago

Great but let's not get that hyped. Sony also patended blocking used games and I didn't see any articles in here about it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites...

http://www.freepatentsonlin...

Proabably got scared after they seen how people reacted to MS and backed out.

EXVirtual3762d ago

Have you not seen the articles from the february reveal of the PS4 confirming no DRM?

BallsEye3762d ago

@EXVirtual

Can you read what I wrote, with understanding?
Cheers.

indyman77773761d ago

Will it ever reach it's ceiling? Its like a empty well, with no end to it.

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Supa3763d ago

Really excited about this!

piroh3763d ago

sounds interesting. later they could emulate PC games on max settings if the technology proves itself, i bet there are no licensing restrictions

Godmars2903763d ago

If you're talking PC games playing on a console, there likely will be licensing issues. That's just how things seem to go.

piroh3763d ago

well, ok with me. i´m already busy finishing exclusives let alone multiplats or PC games. so many games these days it´s not even healthy

ginsunuva3763d ago (Edited 3763d ago )

How do you emulate a PC game if it's running on a PC?

I think you mean stream PC games, though that's much more expensive. Putting a bunch of cheap Ps2s and Ps3s in the servers is cheaper than high-end GPUs.

If you want PC streaming, look to Nvidia's GRID, which just entered beta.

KratosSaveUs3763d ago

I'm still trying to figure out how this will work. Will it be similar to Netflix or d we have to buy all the games all over again.

Majin-vegeta3763d ago

No one knows at this point but Hopefully.

Godmars2903763d ago

You can bet that if Sony tries for a setup similar to Netflix, pay a subscription fee for access to full library, people are going to lose it if its separate and in addition to PS+.

iamnsuperman3763d ago

PS+ isn't exactly a burden on people (like 45 pounds for the year). I can see it being a subscription based service similar to Netflix because individual pricing would be an issue getting it right and they are not going to do it for free

nunley333763d ago

This "wrapper" that's being made to work with existing games sounds fantastic. Sounds like adding psn functionality to the legacy games we may have bought, I love this idea. I would pay for this easily.

kayoss3763d ago

I actually hope it will be more like Steam. You buy the game you want digitally through Gaikai.

GraveLord3763d ago

No, you don't have to buy your games all over again. You already own them and you can play them on your PS1/PS2/PS3 whenever you want.

As for those who don't own these systems or games for them, they can play these games through the PS4 cloud at an as-of-yet undisclosed subscription fee or on a pay-per-title basis. We just don't know yet.

thebudgetgamer3763d ago

I'm hoping it works like the Sega channel did back in the day.

GrimbleGromble3763d ago

I loved me that Sega channel. Short lived and I was the only one of my friends that had it.

LeCreuset3763d ago

The Netflix model would be smarter PR wise. Paying to access games you already own is a much harder sell than paying to access a library of games, some of which you may already own.

JodyCones3763d ago

If it was like netflix for all the classics in HD i'd pay for the subscription in a heartbeat.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow19h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos6h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos4h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje4h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon5h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola2h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola2h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum1h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad4h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola2h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos2h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai3h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK3h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh3h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.