Crystal Dynamics: Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition On PS4/XB1 Features More Visual Upgrades Over PC

Scot Amos (Crystal Dynamics): "The work that went into the PS4 and Xbox One versions started at the end of the X360/PS3/PC versions. They were our foundation that we then built on top of. The amount of extra work - 3 studios and a full year of development - have pushed the boundaries beyond just TressFX and upgraded textures. We now have a new particle system, new lighting work and enhanced shadow-casters, tons of more visual storytelling elements (more debris, more details on walls, more density in the environment for vegetation), upgraded characters (Lara and main story NPCs), and we've also put all of the DLC materials into this version for PS4/Xbox One. We are very happy with the PC version we released and felt these new additions and changes were something custom just for next-gen consoles at the moment"

[SlavisH2]

Except the PC 3d feature

[vishmarx]

the bragging never ends

[mikeslemonade]

"look at me I have a PC!" haha

[Stsonic]

Why all the hate towards the PC?

It's really childish and happens all over the internet. I am currently enjoying PS4 more than PC. It's a relief not to have to brag I own a PC now. Smhh

[BitbyDeath]

PC only gamers just can't handle when console games look better, should get used to it though console and pc power has never been so close before so this probably won't be the last time this occurs this gen.

[decrypt]

So 60 usd for a 11 month old game which most people played anyways.

60usd for slightly better graphics over the PC sounds like a sour deal specially since the PC version can be had for as little as 5usd now.

Still just 30fps in the end lol, some improvement that is lol.

This is an epic attempt to rip console gamers over and over again lol.

Next gen consoles = getting ports of last gen games.

[Gamer1982]

"PC only gamers just can't handle when console games look better," Console games will NEVER look better. Thats the sad truth. Forget what developers say because first of all the Xbone cant handle 1080p and neither console can handle 4k. Thats not to mention PC can go upto and over 60FPS on any game. But frames doesn't effect visuals. Devs will say it looks better perhaps to sell another copy for those who have bought the PC version and also they are probably comparing this to the average PC user. The average PC user will have played Tomb Raider on medium settings with no Tress FX meaning the console version (ps4/xbone) will look slightly better. As not all PC gamers can afford a £600 machine. They prefer a £450 machine with a £40 a year cost and a £20 per game premium instead.

[FATAL1TY]

Uncharted 4
MGS5
infamous second son
Deep Down
The Order 1886
Tomb Raider: true next gen edition
Next gen NBA 2K..
Next gen Fifa..
Destiny

PS4 forever
R.I.P PC -_-

[BZNCAPONE]

@BitbyDeath

did you just really say PC power and consoles have ever been so close? Thats a load if i ever heard. I am loving my PS4 but lets be real my Gaming PC smashes consoles period. i5 4670K running crossfire 7970s & 16gb of ram.

Yeah there really close in power :)

[Tolten96]

Of course!!

[Somebody]

@BitbyDeath

"PC only gamers just can't handle when console games look better"

Well the same is true about console gamers. They snickered about the lack of DX11-capable PC games. When DX11 finally took off after BF3 suddenly they said it's not that important.

Here something interesting from the article : "these new additions and changes were something custom just for next-gen consoles at the moment"

At the moment. Which means PC gamers will get to see those same effects, sooner or later. The only obstacle would be the publisher's decision to lock down that particular game itself. The effects though would be used in other games or replicated by other devs. Do you really think AMD would leave it exclusively to the consoles knowing that Nvidia will offering a competing design for the PC?

[LonChaneyTV]

"Crystal Dynamics: Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition On PS4/XB1 Features More Visual Upgrades Over PC"

..........and in a couple months, "Crystal Dynamics: Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition PC bound!!" , just like Deus Ex Director's cut.

.......I'm just going to wait for the discounted Steam version of this. I just hate when SE and Capcom pull off stunts like this.

[ShinMaster]

PC fans are so INSECURE.

[BitbyDeath]

@BZNCAPONE,

I did not mean in overall power, obviously PC's are further ahead. Devs however have limitations in how much power/spec can be used in a game and if they want to sell a good amount of copies they will need to ensure the average PC can at least play the game on high settings if not maximum.

Consoles do not have this issue, games are made to fit one architecture type.

In this way consoles ARE really close to PC power. I do not believe it has ever been this close before.

[gamernova]

More visual upgrades...so does that mean console gamers can play at 1400p like I am? Lol How is stating facts bragging? Sure, some of us do it arrogantly but they are facts.

[vishmarx]

@gamernova
you do realize visual upgrades aren't limited to resolution?

@allgamespc2012
let me see your face when they announce a gta v pc definitive edition a year later.if anything thats exactly what half the pc games get.people like you then go about defending it saying you got 20%more pixels,characters sweat,hair are shampooed etc etc so it was well worth the wait

@every pc gamer on the price
pray tell,how is it that when you have the cash to spend$2000 on a gaming rig ,you call us peasants and yet you make it obvious that the LAST thing you actually wanna spend your fortune on is GAMES.its bad when the console version is $10 extra,its fine to spend a$1000 extra to play it cheaper though.im not saying that devs are fair with the whole price point but you guys are the last ones i expect to nag about the COST of gaming.since thats exactly how you judge your supeiority in the end.

[decrypt]

@Vishmarx

Go on build us a rig for 2000usd and dont end up using parts like Titan or extreme edition Intel CPUs.

I gaurantee you, most PC gamers build rigs within the range of 600-800usd and that rig typically tends to last 4-5 years easy. Even after that time period upgrades to extend life can cheaply be had infact money saved on games pays for the upgrades.

[vishmarx]

@decrypt
you aint a pc gamer unless youre extreme...
then i can post those bleh specs in my signature...
extreme is where its at,mid range is eww..
it aint real shit if your cpu aint hot as the sun and you need rocket engine coolants to stop your apartment from melting.
and that my friend ,is the general consensus here

[decrypt]

@vishmarx

"you aint a pc gamer unless youre extreme... "

Sure bro, check Steam stats then tell that to the 65 million+ users just on that network alone lol.

Most of them have 600-800usd rigs they can run games maxed out at 1080p.

A well designed PC rig never uses high end parts, its always the parts that are few notches down which are used. Specially when it comes to CPUs, since mid range parts are so overclockable they tend to perform like high end parts.

Same pretty much applies to GPUs, by the way both the PS4 and Xbone as of today are pretty much low end PC parts, hence anything well designed mid range easily runs circles around the new consoles. Stop deluding yourself about PC gamers spending 2k on rigs lol.

[Computersaysno]

Sorry bitbyDeath you make me laugh a bit though when you think the consoles are closer than ever to Pc performance.

They in fact have never been further away. Not in the sense where new consoles used to be able to compete with high end PCs being built as the new consoles launched.

Xbox one is pitifully slow compared to a midrange PC for any multiplatform you care to mention now and into the near future.

PS4 is better but it still has no real hope against cards now considered high end. Cards that will actually NOT even be better than midrange, when the new generation of graphics cards roll around in something like 3-4 months. By then even stuff like R9 290/GTX780 which obliterate the new consoles will NOT be considered high end, just upper midrange. I can promise that now.

PC runs away with it as usual.

You can claim a few things and argue about costs and take it down to nuts and bolts, but essentially the new consoles have nothing on a decent gaming Pc and never will performance wise in theory OR in the real world on any game you care to mention.

Dunno why people still try and bother claiming this every new console generation. Let alone one where the latest consoles are distinctly built with tight budgetary constraints and their reduction in performance relative to a modern PC is evident.

[slayorofgods]

the PS4 and xbone are new and shiny so its going to be hard to make arguments for the PC for a while. Yes, the PC is keeping up with the consoles more than it EVER has to start a console generation. But, consoles are finally on par with "average" pc gaming and they're new and exciting as PC's are where they were a few months ago.

Who cares who games on what... Face it, right now everything is more even then they ever have been, hell, the architecture in all 3 is so close to identical. So just choose what you want and enjoy it. It's a good time for gaming.

[The93Sting]

@decrypt

I can't stand at the amount of "lol"'s you are throwing here and there, it is supposed to be written ONCE not 1,000,000 times.! SMH..

[GarrusVakarian]

I'll take better textures, lighting and particle effects over....3D. Lol.

[decrypt]

For 60usd(face palm)... and people say console gaming was supposed to be cheap lol. At least thats the propaganda everyone chants around here.

[DejectedJeff]

would you also take 30 frames? and for 60 dollars when the pc version doesn't cost anything?

[kevnb]

Read the comment again, textures were already upgraded on pc, they went beyond that with new particle effects and lighting.

[Computersaysno]

I doubt it will look better than the PC version, or run at the high framerates and resolutions I enjoyed on the PC version many moons ago. PS4 might manage 1080p and 30FPS but if it does then the Xbox One version will probably be turned down and less than 1080p.

Tis a good way of getting money out of console gamers but when you can get the PC version for about 6 or 7 pounds then its pretty much an irrelevance to PC gamers.

Its more for those wanting to step up or missed the PS3/360 version a year after the game came out.

Its certainly not worth the full price they will charge for it when it finally arrives otherwise.

I doubt it will actually sell very well on the next gen consoles. Most people who wanted to probably already played it on their choice platform ages ago, have no desire to pay full price to upgrade if they are likely the same people that bought new consoles they want genuine next gen console games not old ports. Its a good game ok, but not an amazingly mind bogglingly fantastic one you must buy on a new console.

Nobody wanted them old ports when PS3/360 launched either really. This is a good game but this news is hardly worth getting a froth over

[trywizardo]

except no one use the 3D feature ... i have 3D TV and i use for movies not games .
anyhow PC is not master race even when it comes to current gen because PC have graphics and consoles have games and for every gamer games > graphics

[Volkama]

Use it for games. It benefits them more than it does movies imo.

[cartman313]

I used it. Tombraider was incredible in 3d. I would often catch myself ducking while crawling through some of those tight spaces.

[nirwanda]

Trine 2 on the ps4 looks so much better in 3d, so much so I bought it after playing the demo.

[Ricegum]

PC scrubs are the worst.

[MadLad]

How so?

[LOL_WUT]

Agreed these bums say those games are cheap on PC but yet they go out of their way to pirate these games so much for supporting the master race! Exposed ;)

[TheDevKit]

Both factions have the potential to act foolishly.

[Volkama]

Don't forget the PC version can be had for about a fiver whenever there is a Steam sale on.

[SephirothX21]

This is done for the purpose of marketing. CD could release a PC version of the game next month that runs at 1440p native resolution at 60fps with full AA and dynamic global illumination and for the hell of hit, they could quadruple the number of objects being rendered per frame and a GTX 780ti would still easily handle it. Consoles can never match PC and that's not a bad thing because it would defeat the purpose of consoles if they could. Consoles are there to provide a standard set of decent hardware to gamers that performs well at an affordable price for the average game consumer. The power of consoles determine the scope of games because developers need to have their game run well on the lowest common denominator. PC is the premium platform but consoles have their uses, especially for exclusives. PS4 gpu has 1.84 Teraflops while X1 has 1.4. GTX Maxwell launching next year is expected to have 14 Teraflops. That's what we can expect from PS5.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

my intel x3100 graphics owns!! pcftw! Can't wait to get ps4 though so I don't have to play minecraft on my crappy lappy.

[Rimeskeem]

Nobody cares.

[Back-to-Back]

PC Master Race? Yea I think not. More like console master race.

[Murad]

Dude, honestly, there's no reason for you to bring anything like that up right now. You're just trolling, and being a PC/ Console gamer, I just can't appreciate your post.

[aquamala]

they can sell this "definitive edition" to console gamers because it's a big difference over the ps3/360 versions.

but the differences is so small compared to the current PC version that no one on the PC side is going to buy this upgrade or "definitive edition", it sounds more like a patch lol

[Neonridr]

well the person at Crystal Dynamics did say that it wasn't just a simple upgrade of textures. New particle effects, lighting, etc.

Not saying that this isn't something they might be able to patch in the future for PC owners, but it sounds like it's not a simple resolution or texture upgrade.

[allgamespc2012]

and you believe them? besides the new lara face, theres nothing that stands out that makes it look better than the pc version, considerin gthe xox is a weak console. you can only run it at 1080p and it wont be 60 fps again, so not much of an improvement if you ask me.

[MadLad]

To be honest, when they showed the release trailer, I saw nothing, outside of the face, that stood out or had me thinking it wasn't available in the first place.
The differences really didn't seem to be there, and I feel they are more pandering to console gamers than anything at this point, especially considering they didn't exactly confirm or deny that the changes will, eventually make it to PC.

Truth is, they are just double-dipping and re-selling a year old game they put a little bit of polish on to those who may not have played or simply got stuck with the gimped version that was on 360 and PS3. Hell, the game still runs at 30 fps even.

[Neonridr]

@allgamespc2012 - oh don't get me wrong the PC version will always be superior, which is why I question why they wouldn't update the PC version with all these new enhancements. The fact that the rep said that these new changes and enhancements were for next gen consoles only made no sense since everything the XB1/PS4 can do the PC can do (sometimes better too).

I was merely reiterating what was said. I was just saying it wasn't just a higher resolution or better textures. They claim it's using some new particle effects systems, etc.

[kevnb]

what upgrade of textures? that was already done on pc, they went beyond that with new particle effects and lighting.

[jc48573]

The difference can be small or drastic to some. It's like when girls put makeup on.

[Jughead3416]

Crystal Dynamics clearly said everything was redone for next gen consoles, and not just a patch. This isn't some slightly downgraded PC version of Tomb Raider, this is a next gen Tomb Raider.

It always sounds to me that PC elitists try to justify spending thousands on a high end PC by talking down to console gamers. I'm sure PC is awesome, but console exclusives are the best games out there.

[anticlimax]

"console exlusives are the best games out there"

Don't want to hear about pc elitists? Then don't provoke 'em!

Gotta wonder though how many people out there willing to dish 60$ out for this game don't already own it in one way or another.

[allgamespc2012]

thousands of dolalrs? hahahahahaha my pc is not even 1k and its already better than your limited consoles that are stuck at 1080p 30fps.

[Jughead3416]

anticlimax - anytime there's a topic suggesting that a console version of a game is superior or on par with PC, PC gamers get all bent out of shape about it, as you can see in these comments. So, yeah, PC gamers should chill out. Crystal Dynamic made a better version of Tomb Raider that at least for now won't be on PC. It'll look better and play better. And yes I'll be paying for this game, because I've never played any version of it before. And I didn't look at a ton of walkthrough footage either. I'm glad I waited. This will be a brand new experience for me.

How many console exclusives are there that PC gamers can't play? GOW, Gears of War, LBP, Halo, Last of Us, Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone, GTA V, etc etc etc.

[MadLad]

You talk about PC elitists, but then you claim we simply try and justify the cost of our tech and claim only the best games are to be had on console.
Seems a little hypocritical to me.

Besides, as ibuypower's $500 Steam Machine shows, you don't need close to the amount you stated for a PC that is competitive, in terms of performance, with current gen consoles. The people, especially now, who spend more than $800 on a rig are the ones, like me, who take advantage of insane levels of AA, extremely high-res monitors or those with 120/144/240hz monitors while trying to max everything the game has.

@Jughead

The ol' here are some of the games that PC can't play as I ignore the giant PC-only indie scene that delivers fantastic games in the thousands every year, both big and small.
Enjoy your rehashed series and shooters.
I'll play them when they, and their accompanying systems, are cheap. I don't feel the need to drop four to five-hundred dollars on a system or two, respectively, for the small amount of exclusives I end up being interested in over a console generation.

[Somebody]

And here I thought console gamers doesn't care about graphics. Just look at the comments from articles from last year and you could see how console fans hammer in how graphical advances in the PC are not important because gameplay is much more important. Every articles about how Crysis 3 or BF4 will have wicked new effects exclusively for the PC will be greeted with derision from console fans.
Console gameplay>PC graphic.

Now, when their next gen consoles will have some form exclusive effects they are defensive when PC fans said the PC will get it too.
Console exclusive graphic features>PC graphic.

[chasegarcia]

looks like you drank the kool aid

[Corpser]

They really put in a year's time with 3 studios for this? Why not just port the PC version over? To justify the $60 price tag I suppose

[KonsoruMasuta]

Why would they just port the PC version over? Then we wouldn't have these extra improvements that aren't in the PC version.

[mike32UK]

I think he was more pointing to the fact that they should have spent the effort on the next game

[Lisica]

You call this an extra improvements?

The game is beautiful on PC. There wasn't any need for a makeup. They should have used that time for a new game.

[Maxor]

"Extra improvements" LMAO!! All they did was port PC high res textures over. Well, 1080p resolution textures that is. Anything higher than that get cut out.

Lets face it, they're gouging nextgen gamers for another $45. But it could've been worst, it could've been like the GoW collection in "high definition" that Sony released a while back. It's a great way to recycle content and push them on nextgen console gamers who are starving for any new...even when it's not new.

[KonsoruMasuta]

Release the butthurt PC fanboys!

[TwistingWords]

I paid £5 for it the other day. No butthurt here.

[KonsoruMasuta]

But you don't have these improvements. I'll play the superior console version.

[TwistingWords]

I don't have those improvements no, but then again I'm not willing to pay a premium to play a year old game.

[SonyNGP]

Have fun paying $60 for a rehashed port for your brand new $400/$500 (plus the amount you have to pay for XBL/PS+) console c:

[Stsonic]

Burn

[Corpser]

Yeah so butthurt here that I can't pay $60 for ... Improved face and vegetation? And this definition edition is still in only 30 FPS lol

[NihonjinChick]

From what I see in the article, It's more than just improved face and vegetation.
Lighting, textures, particles, and shadow-casters have all been improved over the PC version. If they release this for PC, I may get it myself. No shame in admitting these are some nice improvements.

If not, I'll wait until the price is lower on the PS4 version becuase I'm not buying this at release.

[wtopez]

No way. Is it really lock at 30 fps?

[sorane]

One just has to look at your comment history to see who the "butthurt" one is. You're one of the biggest console trolls on this site.

[MadLad]

I bought a supposedly slightly weaker version of the game two months after it released for twenty-something odd dollars.
The game can now be had for around $7 on almost any sale.
It's also not locked to 1080p and 30fps.

I think the majority are less "butthurt" (hmm. I seem to remember calling you out on your immature and liberal use of this term not long ago, actually) and more entertained about how excited you are for changes, outside of the face, that weren't even apparent during the release trailer, yet glide over the fact that the game is still locked at an underwhelming 30fps. You know, something that actually negatively affects gameplay.

[Maxor]

Its obvious who is really butt hurt here.

[Murad]

Umm, you do know, we already have the definitive version for the game, right? Along with mods that might even make the game better? O wait, you didn't, cause you don't check up on these sort of things. I hate to say it, but you offend me, since you're no better than the first poster on this article.

[creeping judas]

I played the game on last gen consoles and quite enjoyed it. But before I buy it for next gen consoles I want to see the difference, I want to make sure that the changes are sufficient enough for me to warrant plobbing down another $60 for the game. I wouldnt mind another run thru of the game.

[Shakengandulf]

I haven't played this yet so these tweaks are very welcome.
Cant wait to try this on the Ps4.

[Totoro17]

I played the game on the PC and it looks absolutely incredible. That being said, I don't think it'd be enough of a difference for it to merit a next-gen console purchase. But boy is it pretty on the PC:

http://imgur.com/bNd2ZvT

http://imgur.com/0dRNZpy

In-game screenshots :)

[LAWSON72]

It will not look as good just a bunch bs. Even if it was it will be $60 and if 60 fps has not been confirmed it is 30

[isolated1]

at 1080p native it'll probably have to be 30fps on xbone and ps4.

[hankmoody]

I'll be getting this but not for the $60 retail price. Included DLC or not, this should have been $40. But if the pricing of the original release is any indication, it'll go down to that price really soon.

[mysteryraz11]

haha pc aint so great isnt it,first no gta5 and now this, pc fanboys can cry all they want

[SonyNGP]

The horror...

[anticlimax]

Mystery, stop trolling.

[Truehellfire]

So you think PC sucks because we don't have GTA5 & an updated Tomb Raider? That's pretty stupid logic. Tomb Raider DE is the same game that came out one year ago on PC just with the DLC & reworked engine. Is it going to look better than the PC version? Sure. A whole lot better? Probably not. Not to mention its locked on PC at 30fps at 1080p, while PC gamers can go beyond that with better anti-aliasing.
As for GTA5, it is a bummer that it is not of PC but that is just one game.

[allgamespc2012]

hahaha except gta is coming and itll look better than eve nnext gen consoles which will probably be locked at 30 fps, AGAIN, hahaha. so ya, keep trying troll

[NihonjinChick]

You sound just as bad as the console trolls. What ever happened to just wanting to play games? Why does everything have to turn into some kind of competition? Are you people really that insecure? Play on your platform of choice and enjoy it. No need to try to brag and put people down for their choice of platform.

[Moncole]

I don't get to play GTA Online but I do get to play Just Cause 2 MP mod with over 1000 players.

[Shabutie13]

I have played both, GTA:O was a mess at launch. So I waited for it to get fixed, and it did see some improvements. About 3 hours into playing I realized how boring it was. On roughly 100 hours of JC2MP. It's a shame the console only people will miss out on it.

[Moncole]

And when Just Cause 3 releases on next gen consoles it won't have MP like JC2 Online.

[Jughead3416]

PC gamers want this.

[NihonjinChick]

I'm pretty sure they won't care. The improvements are nice but it isn't worth the price.

[Jughead3416]

Worth it if you've never played it. Like me.

[MidnytRain]

The only reason I can think of this not coming to PC is because these improvements they're talking about doesn't offer much more than the "Ultimate" graphics settings the original game provides.

[Shabutie13]

Frame rate will still be 30 fps. I hate looking at games under 100 FPS now. Before someone tells me there is no difference in 30 or 60, aside from being wrong, there is an even bigger difference between 30 and 144. (Only if you have a 144hz monitor, of course).

[boeso]

'Release the butthurt PC fanboys!'

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

[Drekken]

We can strap you to the next Mars rover.

[boeso]

Thanks for the advice, but I've already applied to move to Mars via here:

https://applicants.mars-one...

Strapped to the next Mars rover will be considered as a plan b if plan a doesn't come through. Either way, roll on Mars!

[llMurcielagoll]

Still doesn't matter, As a person who bought the game on PC I am not buying it again on next-gen consoles.

[jdaboss]

Id also take a definitive version of Far Cry 3, Assassins Creed 3 (with all the bullshit fixed), Bioshock Infinite, and GTAV as well..

Thanks You.

[famoussasjohn]

On the fence with this. I played this on the 360 and really enjoyed it, enough to where I 100% everything available in the story. The MP was meh at best and didn't care for it. Is the additional story content any good?

[Jughead3416]

Yea, if you've already played it, it may not be worth paying full price. But I don't know. If they did this for The Last of Us, I would probably buy it even though I played it already. But for me, I never played Tombraider, so this is a new game for me.

[famoussasjohn]

Yeah I might hold off, maybe wait until it drops in price a bit. I do get 20% on games from Best Buy so it would be about $48 instead of $60.

[Jovanian]

the only way that a console game can look better than the PC counterpart is if the developer gimped it, or are deliberately withholding features. And even for games where the devs have absolutely no experience on PC and develop it as an exact counterpart, like dark souls, inevitably the game ended up looking better due to resolution/framerate mods. They could release these 'definitive' features as a free patch on the PC, as a respectable developer would (like CDPR), but they aren't, so the difference in visual quality can be attributed to developer laziness, not the strength of the platform

[aquamala]

well not laziness, they know they can't sell this $60 upgrade on PC so they want to sell them to console players first. maybe later on sell it as an upgrade on PC like the $5 Deus Ex Human Evolution Director's Cut upgrade.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

You do realise its completely remade even lara is different in this version, increased polygon count for each character I'm sure something such as that cannot just be patched in thats deep down in the games code do something such as that for PC would literally mean them having to remake that game for pc, certain effects might be able to be patched in but stuff like increased polygon count for character models, different character model completely for lara along with a new voice and most probably dialogue and along with the new character models there will probably be new animations.

[Phoenix76]

Thanks very much for a re-release Crystal Dynamics. But if I really want to play TR again(and I did enjoy it) I'd rather go out and get a PS3 version today or wait till 6 months after this new(re)release is out, where i'll be able to buy at fraction of the cost or...... wait until it turns up on the PS-Store for free with my PS+ membership.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Probably gonna get it just for the Achievements, I have the PC version already but only quickly played thru it for the story.

[pandehz]

Im a PC GAMER but I think its great consolers are gonna get a definite version. The new consoles kinda needed it to be honest.

As for ppl who think pc gamers are butthurt, lemme just say LOL.

I CANT SPEAK FOR ALL PC GAMERS but I personally care very little about the small amount of exclusives which your respective console platforms NEED TO SURVIVE.

I always enjoy a definitive version on every game. Also I'm not jealous or anything about ppl getting to play different games or ppl enjoying a nice upgrade etc etc so why should you ppl?

Also regarding to whoever commented that Console games are gonna look much better than pc games sound like they have pent up revenge on the past two console generations of having a majority of BUTT UGLY games. Lemme just say you will again feel the difference, well how do I put it.
Todays consoles= <2Tflops, todays PC anywhere between 1-5Tflops Next march a large number of CONSOLE FANBOYS not the DECENT CONSOLE GAMERS will have to shut up permamently for another generation when we have PC hardware that will be upwards of 16Tflops. Which makes me think that devs will then finally have access to superpowered hardware that can actually make a game like the Infiltrator tech demo- http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Well Sony shouldn't have said 'Greatness awaits' so quickly. Tho I still appreciate their games.

[Roccetarius]

Greatness is around the corner, but on the PC. I'm really excited to see the improvements. I'll build a new rig when possible, just because we can. :)

[Shakengandulf]

Whose WE?
If by we, you mean everyone.. Than i agree, anyone can.

[kingduqc]

grats for them?

[purp13m0nk3y]

This is awesome news for those that have yet to get around to playing this game. The fact that this in not just a simple port with higher res and steadier frame rates is awesome. This is now one of my most anticipated releases (well re-release) for PS4.

I've got my fingers crossed for 1080p and 60fps.

[Shakengandulf]

Yep, cant wait to try this..1080p and 60fps? I'm more than happy to take a solid 30 for a third person game, 60fps would be very welcome indeed though.

[XishikiX]

It will have things better than the PC.
I'm not sure why both sides have to argue about it.

PC has, better AA, FPS, Resolution, and 3D.
Next Gen has better Vegetation, Shaders, Animation.

[Jubez187]

Guys guys, I don't really think this game is aimed towards anyone who already played it on current Gen.

[Kennytaur]

Why is it so difficult to be happy for one another and get the fuck along?

The N4G community is awful.

[level 360]

Honestly I believe the XBox ONE's voice commands ( if it does work flawlessly ) would be the pick of the bunch.

[KontryBoy706]

does it run at 60fps though? They side stepped that question. If it's 30fps then this is a fail for real

[Modestmex]

Its all about the gameplay said the console people. graphic sells period.

[hafitz]

Hello gamers from all over the world,

Firstly, i bought Tomb Raider (2013) only on PC. Finished it 3 times with MAX Settings. i owned every PC Big Box version of all the Tomb Raider games including The Lost Artifact and since the first one using 3DFX, Nostalgic!

I'm a long time PC Gamer, always having high end PC system. I also own a PS3 and have owned the other playstation consoles since PS1.

What happened here is actually the Developers \ Publishers fault.

Everybody knows that a PC is capable to run this Definitive Edition. The game originally came out on early 2013, and on that time itself, i'm sure the PC Platform is more than capable of running the definitive edition at 1080p 60fps.

But the developers these days are way too lazy to do it. They always say, "we want the game to be the same on every platform" and etc. Thats why the PC got the same version as PS3 and Xbox 360.

Due to AMD's help and Directx11 \ OpenCL, we got TressFx, Due to Nvidia Cuda Tech, we have Physx. Without them, i dont think PC can have a clear differences in graphics quality.

So it always has been the publishers \ Devs fault to give us a port. Sometimes i feel that the games are not pushing my PC to what its capable of. And this is the same case.

The developers decided to add some extras to the PS4 and Xbox One version, (which is what the PC version should get in the first place)

Anyway i wont cry over this, i'll just tell myself there are other games out there still taking advantage of PC. Let's not fight over PS4, PC. We picked our platforms, we are gamers from all over the world.

I Totally respect you guys to own whatever platforms u have, but of course i dont favour Crystal Dynamics and Square Enix for not giving the definitive edition to the PC in the first place.

If u really wanna play this game badly, just wait and see if they will PORT it to PC, if not just get a PS4. As a PC gamer, i dont see the insult on getting a console because afterall, its a gaming platform with some AAA Exclusive titles. Theres no harm done getting one even if your PC is high end.

[kevnb]

lazy eh? How about the fact that they already made the game, did a great job and decided to bring it to new platform? It doesn't make financial sense to go back and redo the pc version that sells for $5-$10 on steam sales. Im sure if they had more time they could have made all three previous versions better, but now it was time to take what they had and get it over to new fairly powerful systems.
also, the point of going overkill with PC hardware is to get higher resolution, higher than 60 fps on a 120hz monitor, just to show off, or to be future resistant. There is always a sweet spot that developers aim for, its never going to be the $500 video card at a 1080p resolution...
This is coming from an avid pc gamer, but im getting sick of these absurd complaints all over the forums. Almost sound like astroturfers...

[hafitz]

AMD did a great job with the tressfx, Microsoft did a good job for directx11, again as i mentioned before, without these PC exclusive features, the game will look the same. Nobody is showing off, just stating the fact of what a pc is capable of doing. U have ur points regarding there could be no point of redoing a pc version. But if they really wanna do a great job, the least they can do is to release a so called dlc or an upgrade patch and sell it for $10 to update the pc version ro the definitive edition. Again, we have our choices, some choose high end PC while most choose consoles. I personally prefer to have both.

[jasonpugh]

PC can only handle what someone can afford to build. End of story. Why PC only players even brag about being better than a console is beyond me. Console players should shy away from even poking the bear to begin with. Bottom line, PC only gamers will alway have the edge due to the ability to upgrade as tech gets better, but are limited by their wallet. PC gamers couldn't touch a current gen console at its price point. Next topic please and end these ridiculous discussions. It's a waste of time and logic seems to go out the window as personal opinion takes over.

[JEECE]

Yeah everyone in the N4G/IGN comments has two Nvidia Titans and runs every game at max resolution and 120fps. Weird how when you look at the hardware statistics on Steam a large percentage of users are still running on integrated Intel 4000 graphics, and only the top few percent even compare to what everyone claims they have. Honestly I prefer PC, especially for multiplayer FPS games, but it's really annoying how the PC fanboys are worse than console fanboys recently.

[Bladesfist]

They are? In the top half of the comments all I noticed were console gamers trying to goad PC gamers into a fight.

"The bragging never ends"

"Look at me I have a PC. haha"

The maturity level of these people... Not to mention that they went on to brag about these changes.

[Murad]

Even though they might be liars and might be bad in terms of you're opinion, that doens't mean you should sink so low. I personally am not going to lie, I own a GTX 670 FTW, and im rocking that thing hopefully until 2015, and guess what, I know for a fact it's going to run everything at it's best, not 120 FPS, but at least 40+, and im grateful for that, not arrogant.

[kevnb]

oh well, for $60 they need to add something you cant already get.

[Orionsangel]

They could just release it for the PC as well. Even if they don't, who cares? This is for collectors. I beat the game 3 times. Do I really wanna beat it again based on slightly better visuals? Stop milking this game and get on with it's sequel. Just give me a brand new TR game!

[jacksjus]

Great so now we have to come across articles on an old ass game everyday. I thought this was "next gen"? Who gives a damn about a game from the last gen, the same game to be exact? Bring on something new. Very disappointing.

[ninjahunter]

Eh, you dont pay a team to put extra into the pc again, you dont put extra into the PC again.

[Amiroo]

whats redone ? textures are even worst than it's PC version. just watch the trailer again and then run it on pc and you can see it

[The_Devil_Hunter]

To each there own, but for me the true gaming experience is on consoles. Although I dont understand, ever since Next-Gen started, all I hear is Consoles vs PC. Why? WHOOO CARES!!!

[Tru_Blu]

Since I swore off BF forever after the 'release' and I never played this on the PS3, I plan on getting it. Killzone is ok but it is starting to get old and a month from now I'm sure I'll be sick of it. Smart of them actually, it is the next big title coming out. Even if it is a port.

[tigertron]

For those PC elitists saying it will be 30fps, the guy said it hasn't yet been optimised so the framerate could very well be 60fps.

[InTheZoneAC]

wah wah wah my pc is THIS powerful

have fun not having the ps exclusives to play...

[DoctorJones]

The only ps exclusive that I've wanted to play this year has been TLOU. That's it, one game. Good job I've got a ps3 aye?

Are you so ignorant that you think pc gamers don't have consoles as well?

[InTheZoneAC]

everyone here has a computer, don't be ignorant

and don't assume anything not said, that would be ignorant

it is my opinion that I couldn't care less how powerful anyone's computer is and that MY, not YOUR, favorite games are only on playstation.

someone stating an obvious difference of opinion that doesn't attack any individual gets disagrees and assumptions....brilliant!

[lesrima88]

i'd still rather play at 1440p than 1080p ,meh ,PC Master Race

[LethalButterfly]

soon as mattle hits in December, PC will widen the gap in performance even more. i OWN a ps4 but also play this game on my rig with A 780ti im not falling for this and buying this game, coz there is no way the ps4 will improve over the original Running on ultra on a 780ti FACT. ill keep my ps4 for exclusives only

[pennywhyz]

PC's are Godlike.

[DivineAssault]

I loved it on PS3 & will cough up the money to play this version on PS4...

[victorMaje]

Loved it on PS3, would love to see what it can be on PS4

[kewlkat007]

Guys stop talking specs with pc only gamers..or what is not in the pc version of the game vs the console.

I'm sure devs can spruce up the pc version how ever they like. Consoles are limited.

I think, pc gaming will fare much better than the past when it comes to more console version of the games going to the other side because of the x86 architecture. PC gamers also get way cheaper games and doesn't have to pay for online play and save in the long run. An average rig is about $800-$1000 and is scalable for years with more ram,better go and sometimes processor depending on board.

[TheLastWriter]

When they say all the DLC does that include the extra outfits for Lara? I don't care about the multiplayer but if they redid those for the new character model that'd be kinda neat.

[MonkeyOne]

This doesn't mean anything unless they tell us what level of anti-aliasing is used.

Ant-aliasing is what makes PC gaming visually better than consoles generally (if you have the hardware to enable 4x or 8x)

[Visiblemarc]

It's irritating how childish many of the comments are here. This version is enhanced. OK? They redid the many of the models and artwork. They'll probably release this version on PC later too where, yes, it will look better (with sufficient hardware).

So, that's all there is to it. This version IS different. Stop saying it's not.

Also, to those complaining about the price, who cares? Don't buy it. For a console user who didn't play it last gen, it's worth grabbing imo. I own it already for last gen so I won't get it at $60. Simple as that. No need to take it personally, the game is great and now next gen adopters looking to add some more padding to their collection have a new title coming soon. Wait for a price drop if it offends you, or skip it.

[CrowbaitBob]

"And yes, gameplay in both versions is at full 1080p!"

Oh snap!

[GeraltofRivia]

what does the "Oh snap" supposed to mean?

[CrowbaitBob]

Well, apparently it's impossible to achieve anything higher than 720p on a certain platform in the minds of the N4G community at large.

[GeraltofRivia]

I have nothing against consoles and plan to buy a PS4 eventually. However a pc with good hardware can run games way beyond 1080p at 1440p, 2560p, and higher. Until the consoles can run games past 1080p all these type of articles are marketing bullshit to trick stupid people. I am sure most people are going to start spewing "Well a good gaming pc costs so much more then a console, blah blah blah, consoles are better" With pc gaming you can often by games at launch or slightly after launch or throughout the entire year for less then half the price of a console game. PC hardware might be expensive but you end up saving if you buy games on sale (new games are usually $40 or $35 or less). Beat that console only junkies.

[mysteryraz11]

pc isnt cheaper you can find cheap console games on amazon or buy or even sell used games I been on steam, and new games cost the same as consoles, steam aint crap I got ps plus and I got resogun,contrast,infamous2,sai ntsrow3,bf3,uncharted2,lbp kart racing,shadow of the colossuss,ico for practically nothing, you pc fanboys are just nerds you are more obsessed with staring at the grass and specs then playing good games, lol aint even got gta5 yet, that tells you how relevant the pc is

[GeraltofRivia]

there are many websites that sell pc games at launch for $40 or $35 when those same games cost $60 new on consoles. pc games usually go on sale for $10 or less throughout the year, which barely ever happens with console games. i think there will be a trade in games feature soon on steam and i think now they let you trade games , lend out games to friends (not 100% sure yet) you can upgrade and sell your pc parts whenever you want unlike consoles. both pc and consoles have there share of exclusives. like i said before I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CONSOLES, i just think pc gaming experience is better overall.

[mysteryraz11]

U can find games under 10 bucks on the ps store even, u ignored that u can buy cheap ass console gamesnon sites like amazon I seen 1 dollar ps3 and 360 games on there, building pcs is lame, thats why ppl preferconsoles u dont have to do that shit for consoles, and bragging about pcs over or near 1 grand is retarded, not when you nerds brag about lame games likecrysis or arma, you are just proving my point that pc gamers only care the hardware and not any good games