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SteamOS will be available to download tomorrow

The first release of SteamOS will be available to download from tomorrow, December 13, Valve has announced.

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twdll3781d ago

Can I just download it on to my 2nd HDD and just boot from there or are there certain requirements that you must have?

wtopez3781d ago

Apparently there's no crazy requirements. You can do the install and just press F12 (or whatever key loads the boot option in your system) when starting your PC to choose where to boot from. I might give it a shot but my Linux skills are not so good. Frankly they're terrible, but it seems like a good way to learn, no?

Fishy Fingers3781d ago (Edited 3781d ago )

Do you need any previous Linux experience? I doubt you will. Plus, expect there will be no shortage of guides on YouTube 12 hours after the download goes live.

SkullBlade1693781d ago

@Fishy Fingers

Unless something goes horribly wrong which causes you to be dropped in to a command line which would either require you to fix something or reinstall SteamOS, I can't see this being the case.

Basically: If it works, then no I don't think you will need any previous Linux experience.

ZodTheRipper3781d ago

This will be my OS on my new PC. Don't know whether I'll try it on my current one just 4 fun ...I'll probably wait a few days/weeks to see whether it has/causes any problems. New software can't be trusted these days even if it's steam.

UltimateMaster3781d ago

It needs to be able to play the PC games as well, and not limited to what Linux has with it's limited library.
If it has the full Steam library of games, then you can bet they've got a success.

andyboy133781d ago

@UltimateMaster

The biggest draw for me is the game streaming option. I could see installing steam OS on my laptop and leaving windows on the gaming pc. That way I can just boot up the laptop on a light weight OS and essentially stream a video. That could make for some great battery life!

Ghoul3780d ago

they clearly said that "However, the developer doesn't recommend that users try it out until next year unless they're already "an intrepid Linux hacker". "

its a beta build and you should know how to handle linux.

wait until next year then

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Kayant3781d ago

Have you even installed a linux distro before? If so then it shouldn't be harder than install Ubuntu,Mint etc am guessing seeing as this is supposed to be for the masses so it shouldn't be anywhere near as complex Arch linux is to install.

Defiantly installing this as soon as it arrives :)

Eonjay3781d ago

I'm pretty excited about this. Windows has really bogged down my PC. Hopefully this can freshen things up. I will be installing this to my second HDD.

starchild3781d ago

This is great news. I'm going to give it a spin. I'm excited to see where this goes.

Also, Mantle was supposed to release for Battlefield 4 this month. Has anyone heard an exact date?

paul-p19883781d ago (Edited 3781d ago )

The majority of Linux distros (might even be all of them) have an option to install it side-by-side with Windows, known as dual-booting. I assume Steam OS will be no different. When you boot your PC it will come up with a black screen asking which OS to boot, so it's really simple. I used to run Windows XP and Linux Ubuntu as a dual-boot a while back, mainly because there were certain programs on Windows i couldn't run through Linux, but that has changed quite a lot now so i just use Ubuntu instead.

You may even be able to burn the ISO to a DVD and run it as a live operating system just to give it a test run (it just 'installs' Linux onto your RAM, so it's pretty slow, but obviously not permanent), which once again is an option that many Linux distro's have, but not all of them. The major distro's all do it, so i would personally assume SteamOS would let you do it.

With regards to requirements, it's the same as any OS, but as long as you have a fairly modern PC you shouldn't have any problems installing it :)

PLASTICA-MAN3781d ago

I hope there is an option to allocate custom space to this SteamOS partition.

Lior3781d ago

Will it work properly with games like on origin like battlefield 4

Kayant3781d ago (Edited 3781d ago )

No. People seem to be forgetting that SteamOS is linux meaning it has small range of natively supported games atm well in terms of the big AAA games. This is meant to change that so devs/pubs will support linux more. Just give it time ;)

So if you're looking for this to replace your current windows environment day one then this might not be for you expect if you have two PCs and you can use the streaming feature to play Windows games.

AD7053781d ago (Edited 3781d ago )

i highly doubt that they'll release steamos with no added games support to whats currently available on steam in linux.

I will probably wait a few months before downloading steamOS. Just to see where it will go.

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wtopez3781d ago

Hmm interesting... I'm definitely checking this out. Dual boot it is!

Blackdeath_6633781d ago

will wait and see if there is a performance difference. there probably won't be a huge amount in the early stages

Fireseed3781d ago

That, or it'll likely be the 50% performance difference they've been claiming...

AD7053781d ago (Edited 3781d ago )

Really 50% performance boost on steamOS? How will they pull that off? In fact wheres an article that states that?

Trenta273781d ago

Linux is a beautiful thing. I have used it countless times to bring old computers back to life. Windows takes up a massive amount of resources.

ninjahunter3780d ago

Yea, that's what im excited to see, If i could squeeze another year out of my laptop from a 20% boost to CPU or GPU performance, my wallet would be awfully happy. But if its just 5-10%, it would be hard to justify loading it up just to play a couple games.

Perjoss3781d ago

Even though it will likely never happen, I'm still excited about maybe one day being able to game on PC without the need for windows.

Spinal3781d ago

Windows is far than a gaming OS. I'd hate to have just a gaming OS on my PC. Thats what consoles are for.

I like use Micosoft Office and other Windows compatible applications. Just imagine the amount of programs that wont be compatible with SteamOS lol.

Fishy Fingers3781d ago

True, at least now. But expect SteamOS to support the more popular PC applications (Firefox etc) and perhaps even offer/support office type services.

I've got a PC that doesn't have Office installed, never have a problem using 3rd party solutions.

Chrono3781d ago

Just saying, all those software have great free (as in freedom) alternatives. And even if you insist on M$ Office, you can use it through WINE.

paul-p19883781d ago (Edited 3781d ago )

Tbh the open source office software is quicker and cleaner than MS Office, and doesn't use the horrible ribbon system... have a look at LibreOffice, you can even download it for Windows if you want to try it before taking the plunge and going to Linux to see what the office software is like.

For all the other applications you can install Wine, which is a windows compatibility layer. All my previous Windows only software works on it, and thankfully it's a lot more backwards compatible than Windows (Got my old Jedi Knight 2 game running on it, Windows didn't support that past XP lol).

Pretty much everything you can run on Windows can be run on Linux, and those that can't tend to have an opensource equivalent anyway, so you can do near enough exactly the same things on both now :)

curtis923781d ago

Spinal mentions using PC for things other than games.

Okay, I agree. I follow.

Spinal uses Office as example.

*leaves*

Perjoss3781d ago

nobody expects steam OS to replace their main OS totally. its something you dual boot into to play games only.

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XiSasukeUchiha3781d ago

Awesome, downloading tomorrow for sure

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Why Are Steam's Recommendations Dogpoop?

Blindfolding myself and clicking a Steam page at random would serve me better recommendations than Steam’s algorithm

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UltimateOwnage9d ago

Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The recommendations I get are usually pretty good, but then again I have pretty large library of games on Steam and hundreds of them in my wish list, along with lots of curators I follow for it to build recommendations off of. On occasion it will throw me a random FIFA game or something I've never bought or shown interest in, but mostly its decent IMO.

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5 Best Metroidvania Games on Steam (March 2024)

Dive into the best Metroidvania games on Steam, from hidden gems to top-rated classics, and embark on unforgettable adventures!

jznrpg19d ago

Skul is a metroidvania ? It’s on PS+ soon I’ll check it out. If it’s good I’ll buy a copy physically if they have one

Nacho_Z19d ago

If Pseudoregalia is one of the best I'd hate to see what the worst look like.

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Dragon’s Dogma 2 releases to mixed user reviews, as microtransactions criticised

Players can pay to edit their character, resurrect the dead and other actions.

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AdonisIsBeast28d ago

Who cares as long as it’s optional

phoenixwing28d ago

paying to edit your character is kind of crap as far as microtransactions go

Xristo27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I hate any/all MTX in a paid game (especially a full-price game)... but know that you can spend in-game currency (RC), which you get from killing mobs, to completely remake your character.

phoenixwing27d ago

@xRisto how much did it change the gameplay though? Changing your character would have probably not cost any rc if they weren't hellbent on getting money by making it inconvenient

koga8827d ago

You can literally edit your character using in-game gold, dropped from monsters or obtained from selling items, as soon as you reach the first main town. You can even use Rift Crystals obtained from other people using your pawn or dropped from monsters to change your entire character or Pawn. It's paying to avoid doing something that is literally in the game.

PRIMORDUS27d ago

They are lucky there using Denuvo or their game and all future DLC etc. would be for free. 🤣

phoenixwing27d ago

@koga you completely missed the point i was making but go ahead and act like i'm being the wrong one

lucian22927d ago

you can pay ingame currency though; why are ya so derp

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Crows9028d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Capcom cares quite a bit....hence why it was kept from reviewers and initial impressions.

As far as optional...yeah...ALL mtx are optional. That's not the problem. The miss the mark entirely.

Heck buying the game is "optional" too.

The fact that they were hiding this is scummy as hell. I was going to buy this day 1 or day 3. Now I'm reconsidering the purchase entirely because as the reviews point out...there are certain design decisions which have not changed but funnily enough seem to be remedied by these mtx...

In other words they may have left certain features in the game in order to monetize them. So the mtx affected the development of the game in a negative way.

garos8228d ago

I'm certainly not buying it anymore. It has affected at least one sale from me. I'll pick it up second hand

peppeaccardo27d ago

Very close to buy the game at a discounted price but not anymore.
Bad business practice and hence they do not get my support/money !

warriorcase27d ago

It wasn't kept fromreviewers s though. Twitter reviewers are saying there was mention of mtx's in the reviewers guide

-Foxtrot28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

STOP. USING. THAT. SHITTY. EXCUSE

God damn man

Look how DLC changed after Oblivions horse armour, within 10 years most developers took the absolute p***. What was said then aswell? “It’s only optional who cares?” Now look where we all are.

There’s no half measures with these things, when will people realise this.

jwillj2k427d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Oh it’s gonna get worse. Ng+ locked behind mtx, “cool downs” preventing you from playing for more than 3 hours at a time unless u pay the mtx for unlimited access, main campaign bosses, in-game music, certain dialog, difficulty modes, certain npc interactions, all locked behind mtx, etc.. etc. gonna end up being like the NBA 2k games eventually paying for cross overs and shit… They gon get mid-evil on our asses.

OMGitzThatGuy27d ago

I can guarantee most of the items you can buy with mtx and ingame currency wouldn’t exist in ANY paid form if the main goal wasn't monetization. If the goal is to give idiots who are willing to pay for basic game features as mtx a way to do things faster then the only ones the mtx hurt are the non paying players as you are now locking features behind a grind that you chose to put in the game that you are essentially admitting to creating some type of time sink. I have never heard of a game locking basic character editing behind a ingame paywall, it’s usually just an option.

Chard27d ago

Takes two to tango though - unfortunately people buy this garbage which incentivises the behaviour. It's an inevitable outcome of the profit motive

thorstein28d ago

@Mario

Yes. And so are resurrection "Wakestones." You can find them but they're rare.

victorMaje28d ago

Buying the game is now very optional too. If you don’t know why then you don’t get it.

shinoff218328d ago

Because it's only a door way. That's why we care. We've already seen some shit since Mtx was introduced.

Rimeskeem27d ago

1. DD2 is an ARPG with 8 different playable classes
2. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game
3. You can only have one character (have to pay for more)
4. You cannot delete the character unless you go into the game files
5. The game is $70 dollars upfront

Having to pay for more character slots in a game that *features* 8 playable classes is pretty much not optional for an ARPG.

Angyobangyo27d ago

Judging from steam reviews, gamers care. Not plastic gamers. Why didn’t Itsuno mention such MTX would be available in-game? Why weren’t the MTXs there for review copies?

Kiryu199227d ago

Who cares is how all this started. The many many excuses. Please keep defending these greedy publishers and unfair tactics. We be gamers are the problem

Horse armor

$10 online passes if buying a used copy

Cheat codes gone and are replaced by micro transactions

Unlocking stuff by playing games behind micro transactions and XP boosters

It’s only cosmetic

No one is being forced to spend even though publishers are literally making their games more grindy to force people to play

Full priced games have mobile game type micro transactions

$70 priced games because higher development costs while making record profits and laying off record number of employees

And to play the game early pay us extra $20-30 on top of full price

Release games now and promise to maybe fix them later only to abandon the game

Day one patches that make the games worst

If it’s your favorite game defend the publisher if it’s not hate on another publisher for similar content

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kenpachi28d ago

Must have picked up some EA crew to put this in the game

robtion27d ago

Yeah these are really bad ones. Directly impacting gameplay too. Super scummy move. I hope nobody buys them.

CrimsonWing6928d ago

Yet Helldivers 2 gets a pass? Y’know a GotY contender by the name of RE4 had them and so does Devil May Cry V. The funny thing is I enjoyed both of those games thoroughly without having to buy a single microtransaction.

What I do consider a valid complaint is not being able to start a new game or being able to edit your character. That’s kind of a seriously baffling decision, but then I think how I played Dragon’s Dogma 1 and I never edited my character and I just did a 100% playthrough on a single file and didn’t start a NG since. So, I don’t think these are really going to impact me, but I can see how it will others.

Crows9028d ago

Helldivers 2 is a live service game where everything is obtainable in game with incredible ease.

Not sure about re4 or DMC but nobody is giving anyone a pass ...this article is about dragons dogma 2...not those games.

What is valid are in game features made to supposedly force you to think carefully only to have a surprise online store offer solutions to built in problems for more money.

Goosejuice28d ago

Those same things they are selling can be found Ingame as well. U can buy the character editor through merchants with gold. Don't get me wrong..I dislike these mtx they are doing but you don't need to buy them to be able to get them.

CrimsonWing6927d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Oh my bad, I can’t bring up games with microtransactions that nobody had a sh*t fit over. My mistake.

I love how people move the goalpost.

Crows9027d ago

@goose
@crimson

All mtx sucks. I'd rather helldiver's not have them because it makes me wonder if the rate at which you collect materials. That said. The games features are all fully enjoyable and aren't affected by the mtx.

That's not the case with dragons dogma 2...they left in place features that are supposedly part of the challenge of the game only to let you buy your way out very conveniently. I didn't look through all of them but I've heard some are rare but can be purchased with more money now. Even more so in a game about managing weight load there's a tent, I believe, that you can pay more money for that weighs less than your typical tent...not all sure on all the mtx and I'm aware that you can purchase many through in game vendor but they're incredibly useful mtx that are obtained much more slowly in game...or even a limited amount of them.

Instead is selling fast travel...just let us don't for free....or instead of selling cosmetic changes...how about letting us do it for free...

Nothing in helldivers comes close to this abomination

Angyobangyo27d ago

One is a single player game and one is a live service game. One is $40 vs$70. And most importantly, one game is there to spread democracy.

Ironmike27d ago

It's not incredibly easy for certain things in helldivers though u still have grind quite bit but u ate correct in saying u can eventually get enough medals to purchase stuff

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Moegooner28d ago

Read your comment again and maybe, just maybe you might realise how dumb it was.

CrimsonWing6927d ago (Edited 27d ago )

What was dumb about it? That I pointed out the hypocrisy?

garos8228d ago

It was extremely scummy that capcom hid this from reviewers. I have no doubt this game is good but these type of microtransactions don't sit well with me. They've lost a sale from me

Lionsguard28d ago

I was going to pay full price to support this game because I've been waiting for it for forever but I think I'll wait until I get it for free from Epic or a Humblebundle monthly.

Redemption-6428d ago

I am not defending Capcom, as I am not a fan of MTX in single player games. I do however belive they were open to reviewers about having MTX in their game. The reviewers just decided to leave that part out. Which is very disingenuous. There are some companies that get away with these things. Image if this was done by EA, Ubisoft, or even Activision? I am positive those defending Capcom, would have had their pitchforks ready if the companies listed above did this

anast28d ago

That's why reviewers can't be trusted. In fact, they are not reviewers at all. They get free codes to talk about stuff they don't understand nor care about.

Sanctusone27d ago

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with eyes...one of the items you get from deluxe edition was in game items.
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Which honestly I figured they kept a similar mtx system like DMC5 and the optional red orbs.

Lionsguard27d ago

1500 Rift Crystals doesn't mean anything. The first game had Rift crystals too, you just earned them by people hiring your Pawn and you get it from certain quests.

anast27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

A reviewer's job is to point out the obvious of a product as though they were the consumer. This means reviewers, to do their actual job, would need to review the complete game: the edition they are reviewing, how they got the game, technical aspects, story, and monetization scheme. Since, it is obvious that MT's are a part of the game, it would need to be reviewed. This way people can be informed, so they can decide if they want to play this style of game/monetization scheme.

For example, AC Origins was bad with Mt's. I had to farm side missions or pay to advance the story. This was after I already did close to 25 or more side missions. While I was grinding there were constant reminders that I could pay to ease the grind. I would have never bought the game if it were reviewed properly.

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