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Wii U Gets 3rd Place in Cyber Deal Awards

"It seems like a large outlet has finally recognized the Wii U for the amazing value that it is. Every year, the Cyber Week Awards recognizes the best value of gifts for the holiday season. This year, the Wii U took home an award. In the “toys” category, the Wii U ranked 3rd, being only beat by Rainbow Loom and Lego Building Blocks. The Wii U beat out a roster of tough competition, including Disney Infinity, Skylanders: Swap Force, American Girl, Barbie, and Nerf" -- Nintendo Enthusiast.

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Snookies123792d ago

The Wii U is a great system. It's just missing some important things that would have drawn a much bigger crowd if included... Things like Trophy/Achievement support, better 3rd party relations, better specs, and a few more 'must-have' titles.

Sarcasm3792d ago

Yeah they are just behind in a lot of aspects. I mean heck, people can go out and buy a PS3 or 360 for a mere $200 or less with a huge backlog of games.

With that said, I'm impressed how talented the 1st party Nintendo people are though. Man I really want that Super Mario Bros 3D world.

LordDhampire3792d ago

That is some good sarcasm bro

The only thng what would help nintendo is a good network

iplay1up23792d ago

Yes, and I can not play my PS3 games on my PS4,I can play Wii games on my Wii U and even with all the crap Wii games there are still a ton of great ones.

Misaka_x_Touma3792d ago

yeah someone could get a ps2 and gc back in 2007 with a whole backlog of games.

stragomccloud3792d ago

I don't think Trophy support would really help, and as far as better specs are concerned, if developers actually tried harder to work with the architecture, they could make games look almost as good as the PS4 since the hardware is designed to do significantly less than the PS4 is. The problem is that the third party relations problem prevents developers from actually having enough of a budget to work with Nintendo's current gen console to make that happen.

Snookies123792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

No, I'm sorry. First party devs for the Wii U could get some great looking games out for the system. There's no doubt there. That's because they're working specifically FOR that system, and no others. With 1 GB of ram to work with (for gaming) developers will struggle trying to get their games looking near the quality of the X1 or PS4. This is a hindrance, and it's not about trying 'harder'. If I were a developer, I would want to steer clear of the Wii U because of its technological disadvantages. Again though, don't get me wrong. I love the system and Nintendo, but they dropped the ball on some of the aspects of the Wii U.

Also, as a side note, yes it would help them to have trophy/achievement support. I know some friends of mine would have jumped on the Wii U if it had that, but shun it now because it doesn't. Some people are VERY serious about that kind of thing.

Concertoine3792d ago

While i dont care for them i think adding them or party chat wouldnt remove anything from the experience. If it made other people happy and i could just disable the sound/appearance of them like i do on 360, then i dont see the issue everyone has with it.

wonderfulmonkeyman3792d ago

AAA third parties are overrated lately anyways.
If Nintendo wants creativity, then they should really start focusing on reaching out to indies more.
Games like Shovel Knight, Cryamore, Shantae, A Hat in Time, and so many other great games are hitting the Wii U due to their new openness towards the indie scene, but it would really behoove Nintendo to pony up enough dough to pull a few of these indie studios officially into their fold.
Provided there aren't any restrictions on how they make their games, that is, which I doubt there would be considering the incredible jobs that other indies have done on their games for Nintendo systems.

stragomccloud3792d ago

@snookies, The large amount of eDRAM shared between the GPGPU and the CPU eliminates the need for the extra RAM. Believe it or not, a highly customized CPU beats out an off the shelf mobile phone/tablet CPU, especially when said CPU is only able to use half of its' cores for actual gaming.

"The Wii U uses less RAM and loses less cycles than the XB1 and PS4. Smaller is better, as clock rate is govern by speed of light.

x86 is very inefficient today. It was efficient back when it was made for cheap 4-bit and 8-bit systems. There's a reason NASA equipment is PowerPC and not x86. "

source:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

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triforce793792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

WiiU does not need better specs ?? it's got suprior cache,superior chip RAM,and superior games and also EAD tokyo,haha....the edram in wiiu makes everything twice or more powerful,u know nothing mate,to have edram on your gpgpu/multicore cpu/cache/basically everything means serious power dude,chip RAM gives you graphics performance,System RAM is just for looking after all the textures,lighting,geometry,dis played on screen and with x10 compression on wiiu it's not a problem,it's why devs like michel ancel said no memory limitations on wiiu....Project CARS runs on 1 cpu core ???

Imonaboat13792d ago

Can you show me your degree? Just to prove that you know what you are talking about.

And Wii u inferior to Ps4 and Xbox1. You have to stop being in denial amd delusional. Third party games coming to next gen consoles only proves my point such as Witcher 3, The division, The Crew, Metal gear solid 5 and many many more.

KonsoruMasuta3792d ago

Most of the third party games coming out this gen are also coming out for last gen systems. For example, MGS V.

The WiiU being inferior has nothing to do with it's lack of 3rd party support.

wonderfulmonkeyman3792d ago

@ Boya
Don't ask for a degree and then try to talk tech before you've shown your own.

awesomeabe19983792d ago

@boya3gob94

The Wii U is inferior to PS4 and XB1 but do you know by how much? Shin'en, an indie developer, is using 4k textures for their new game with only using one core.

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Crillvirus813792d ago

Please look at last of us ,or god of war 3 ,bioshock infinite,gears 3 ,tomb raider or halo 4 etc ..all games that's look great on last gen and wii u is stronger then both ps3 and 360 and has more ram etc.. so the 3rd party's could make there games look great on wii u but they don't try also most next gun engines are said to be scalable to make it easy to port to the most platforms as possible so most games could get a wii u port real easy but again there's lazy ass devs that say there's no money there but don't even try lol

triforce793792d ago

All the WiiU games ive seen look much better than ps3 ?? try actually playing a wiiu mate even nintendo land clearly is technically above any ps3 game in terms of anti alaising alone mate.......get a grip wiiu is powerful very powerful

Superior version of BO2
Superior version of Trine
Superior version of Deux ex
Superior version of Toki tori 2
Superior version of NFS most wanted
Superior version of Rayman legends
Superior version of Mass effect

Get my drift next year WiiU is going to own,this year it smashed it in games end of......port or remakes who cares next year wiiu has the most console selling games FACT.

Crillvirus813790d ago

@triforce that's what I was saying the games could look even better cause the wii u is stronger then last gen consoles ..it's just the devs don't treat it that way

Xer0_SiN3792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

YAY! the wii u got bronze on the toy list!! congrats ninty!

Fanboyssuck273792d ago

While ps4 and xbone came no where. Lol

XisThatKid3792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

@fanboy

yea in "Toys" catagory. PS4 took first in "video games"

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alti3792d ago

Wii u can score as high as it wants as a toy. Let the other consoles score on the video game or entertainment hardware categories. Toy is legitimately an insulting term to reference either the ps4 or even Xbox 1. And Nintendo fans can thumb this down as much as they want, but that is a legitimate statement i truly mean; no fanboyism intended.

Frankly if anyone called the ps4 a toy, i would look at it as belittling the brand.

triforce793792d ago

What exactly have ps4 or the 1 done thats so great ?? setting on fire,not working properly,poor launch game reviews especially on exclusives is a sham.........fanboys are blind wow

eferreira3792d ago

Don't be calling others fanboys when you're one yourself. Just checked your past comments and it's all pro Nintendo and dissing the rest.

SpiralTear3792d ago

"belittling the brand"

So calling the PLAYstation line of consoles "toys" is belittling the brand?

I don't see why calling any gaming system a "toy" is some condemnation of anything. You can do a lot of things on any video game system that are beyond simply playing games; we've grown to expect streaming services and multimedia support in our systems nowadays, but they're always interpreted as gaming systems first, whether by us gamers or the mainstream media. Sony knows that and Nintendo most certainly knows that.

Calling a gaming system a "toy" is no mark of shame and it never has been (the Playstation line is not excluded), just as calling a console an "entertainment system" doesn't give it some ascendant superiority. As "legitimate" as you claim your statement is, your fanboyism is more apparent than you think.

alti3792d ago

By comparison, as a multimedia device with a lot of power, it would be like calling my computer a toy. You'd have a lot of nerve to say something like that. So yes, the title "toy" is belittling. The fact Nintendo fans are so accepting of the title is proof only of how much respect the console has in general.

wonderfulmonkeyman3792d ago

It's a shame that you're so easily insulted, then, because technically, no matter how advanced the tech inside all of them is, they're all used for PLAYING GAMES.
And you play games with TOYS.
They're just really technically advanced media entertainment toys, all of them.

Misaka_x_Touma3792d ago

Toy is something you play with. PS4 and XB1 is a Toy.

Hicken3792d ago

People play with their kids. Does that make their kids toys? Or does that make them toys because their kids play with them?

Misaka_x_Touma3792d ago

Toy are things and object not living.

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Emme3792d ago

Nintendo is all about toys, and if You look at it objectively, all consoles are toys. If You deny consoles are toys, You are fooling Yourself. You sit there with a controller and shoot aliens, or waggle with Your hands in the air while playing Kinect. Toys. The WiiU is for kids, as consoles and games are, unless You really think that shooting other people on the head is a game for adults.

alti3792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

So when you navigate a computer with a mouse and keyboard....it's a toy? Oh but it's used for other things? That makes it not a toy, right? No? But it plays games! So you consider the computer a toy? ...NO?

Do you see where I'm getting at here? The ps4 and Xbox 1 are no more a "toy" than the iPad, desktop, or laptop is. It is belittling to the brand to be referred to as a toy, period. And if you consider the computer a toy, shame on you.

Some people refer to their vehicles as a new toy or whatever. But if they found their Mercedes on this list, it would not be very flattering.

wonderfulmonkeyman3792d ago

It's not belittling anything, it's calling it what it is.
If you use your laptop or PC mostly for gaming, then yeah, that's a damned toy whether you feel it is or not.
Because you're PLAYING on it more than using it for WORK.

iplay1up23792d ago

The main thing a console is supposed to do is play games. For gosh sakes. There is no argument. The rest of the stuff a console does is unnecessary, especially if you have a smart TV.

zavierkai3792d ago

People video games are toys. When the atari was out on store it was in the category of toy like nes even came whith robot to sell the sistem in north america so don't try to feel mature because you own a ps3 or an xbox

alti3792d ago

It's called a toy because thats all it can do. When its a multimedia device, it steps out of that league and into another. Just because a device plays games does not make it a toy. If so, the next time my i7 processor computer shows up on a "toy" list, I'll respect your retarded comment.

Or wait, we're supposed to envy Nintendo for taking a coveted spot on a list with the likes of...Leggos.......and Barbies. Lmfao, you people are fuckin dumb, seriously.

iplay1up23792d ago

Again, the main purpose of a console is to do what? Play GAMES. So keep telling yourself whatever you have to to feel like a big boy. If your console of choice were a mere "multimedia" device I guess you would not care what GAMES it had. Games are the main reason most have consoles, DERP!

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS11d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.