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Ubisoft explains how digital prices are set on PlayStation Store and Xbox Games Store

Ubisoft has explained how digital prices are set on both PlayStation Store and Xbox Games Store, revealing that the cost of digital titles may not be identical across the two networks because of individual "pricing matrices" set by Sony and Microsoft.

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forcefullpower3802d ago

What a loads of bolloxs. You want to charge the same price as a physical disc. DD should be at least 5 or 10 quid cheaper than going to the shop.

colonel1793802d ago

Exactly! They save production costos, distribution costs, packaging costs, etc and they still want to charge the same.

When the Vita was announced, they confirmed that Digital Games will be cheaper. It never happened.

MasterChief36243802d ago

Actually it did happen. A majority of first-party digital Vita titles are $5 cheaper than their physical counterparts

bradfh3802d ago

Also you can resell your game dvd and get some money back, you cant do this with a digital download.

admiralvic3802d ago

@ Masterchief3624

Actually, a good percent of all physical games are cheaper than their physical counterparts, not just first-party titles.

nukeitall3802d ago

If MS vision of digital future would have gone through, buying a physical disc would have given you all the benefits of digital download for the lowered physical disc price!

@colonel179:

"When the Vita was announced, they confirmed that Digital Games will be cheaper. It never happened. "

There has been a lot of promises on PSP and PS Vita. Remember how Sony promised day and date release on PSP Go (digital) and PSP?

Never happened. Instead, you were treated to an early demise of PSP Go in favor of the older system PSP!

forcefullpower3802d ago

@nukeitall

But you wouldn't be able to buy the physical disc cheaper if Microsoft had there way as they were going to destroyed the used game market. i.e. end of cheap games.

dcj05243802d ago

$5 cheaper my man. You can buy a sub with that.

_FantasmA_3802d ago

How do you have more agrees than disagrees? Digital is actually cheaper on the Vita. I actually bought Zero Escape, PS All Stars, and Killzone Mercenary digitally because they were cheaper by about $7-10.

SilentNegotiator3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

They're only shooting themselves in the foot by not doing that. If my choice is "Disc with resale value and neat case to put on shelf" and "same priced DL", the choice is obvious.

"How do you have more agrees than disagrees? Digital is actually cheaper on the Vita"

Because no one has a Vita due to the fact that there isn't a lot worth playing on the most expensive handheld.

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Mikelarry3802d ago

there is no explanation other than greed nothing, nada you cannot charge more than physical copy it does not make sense to anybody but these greedy companies. as much as they tout this digital future i fear they are the biggest road blocks to that future.

Onehandband1t3802d ago

I can only assume its something that Sony and Microsoft have discussed with retail shops to keep them in business,

Just think, if all digital games were significantly cheaper than retail counterparts, shops like GAME and Gamestop would soon disappear.

I don't agree with the pricing for digital games, but we will have to wait and see what the future holds

forcefullpower3802d ago

Steam seems to able to achieve it very easily. Even if you go to blizzard or origin I always seem to find there prices never change either.

I am keeping fingers crossed that Steam will come through as an alternative.

MizTv3802d ago

I agree
Why can I get games on steam for $10 and it's like $40 on the other networks?
If these company's want to push digital then they need to make it worth it
It should be like half of disc price

admiralvic3802d ago

@ Onehandband1t

I doubt it. A lot of retail stores do sales and deals, which typically makes them cheaper than any digital game. Like, BestBuy was doing $20 dollar credit vouchers for some games (like BioShock Infinite) with preorder, which is probably more of a discount than you would see digitally on day 1. We also had Targets B2G1 free sale, which also brought day 1 games down to $40 dollars.

Not to mention, the ability to sell the games and store discounts will always make them appealing. Sure digital would affect it, but I wouldn't rush to the PSN to download a 30+ gb game to save $10 dollars when I can buy a physical version, save the download and sell it for $10 (in most cases) with ease.

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Death3802d ago

They save costs and they don't save costs. It depends on what both Sony and Microsoft charge to distribute it. Both companies offer tiered pricing, in this case Microsoft had a lower price teir that Ubi was able to use and still make what they projected. Sony didn't have a price teir as close so they had to charge more for the digital copy on PSN. Alot is determined by what Sony or Microsoft charge. Judging by the article it looks like Sony is charging more to the publishers to distribute their games.

Death3802d ago

For the disagrees, read the article. Both Ubi and EA had to reduce their prices on the PS4 to match Xbox One online prices. The article is very clear on how the price tiers work. To make the same profit on each console the PS4 price was higher. Both Ubi and EA lowered their prices to match the Xbox price. This would not have been necessary if Sony was charging the same or offered the same tiered pricing as Microsoft.

aquamala3802d ago

Do you know how much it costs to sell a game on psn/xbl compared to physical copies? Yeah I don't either, that's all under NDA. What if they are more expensive than physical copies because of sony/ms fees? "Greedy" Game publishers may not be the ones to blame here

denero13802d ago

Welllllll >.> wouldn't that kind of go against what some sony/ms reps have said about digital being cheaper?

AnotherProGamer3802d ago

I remember reading somewhere if Sony/MS put the prices of the games less than the physical prices than Gamestop will not stock/sell there games.

dragon823801d ago

This seems to be the case across the board. Most retail stores would not be happy about it and would threaten to not sell their products. This might not be a problem for software but it would be a huge problem if they stopped stocking hardware and accessories.

Kaze883802d ago

The problem is that currently around 70-80% games are sold by Walmart, Gamestop and Amazon....they say to MS and Sony or 3rd party publisher "sell these games on same price or we wont sell your game in our store" so you will likely loose 70-80% off the sales...none wants to oppose that. On pc its the other way around, most of the games are sold digitally so thats why games are dirty cheap on pc in steam etc.

_FantasmA_3802d ago

But if there are no knew games in stores then GS fails. They would only have used games and considering the online passes, maps, etc that come with new copies, I don't think GS would last that long. I think digital should be cheaper to offset the physical disk costs. It creates competion. PSN against GS, Digital against physical, driving against waiting for a download.

Kaze883799d ago

@Fantasma yeah they couldnt make it without new games but also publishers cant make without them either. They are kinda like necessary evil to each other.

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Chrono3802d ago

Instead of finding ways to improve digital sales, they're making them worse.

NicSage3802d ago

There is no reason to buy digital games when the physical is so competitive.

PC digital is a different story everything is dirt cheap & changes daily if needed, the digital market on PC is like the Physical market for consoles.

Onehandband1t3802d ago

So Microsoft and Sony feel its fair to charge these prices for digital download games. I understand there is a royalty inc in the price but it's digital. No resale value or shiny box to put on you shelf and yet it's fine to charge the same price.

Also don't forget that you are not only paying the same price for a digital game but then you have to add your bandwidth costs on top.
I am on unlimited so its not an issue really but with the size of next gen games, some people will be charged further for exceeding there total broadband usage. Pretty much a lose lose situation for some.

And yet Steams digital service you can pick up most brand new games for an average of £35 compared to Sony and Microsoft's £54.99, not to mention if you pre purchase games on steam you tend to get a further reduction. And with steam game trading in the works, there is resale value on digital purchases.

I can understand to an extent that gamers respective to there consoles get to use a premium service to purchase digital content for convenience, but it is a bit of a joke.

Looks as though the digital only future for consoles is pretty distant

monkey nuts3802d ago

Games will never sell at £55. Prices have always been in the £35 to £45 range here in the uk. If they think they can get away with charging more for games when the ps4 and xbone are easier to develop for due to their x86 architecture then they are in for one hell of a shock. Granted, the hardcore may pay those prices, but hardly anyone else will. Greed will imprison us all............

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H93h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

SegaSaturn6692h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto17h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel16h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg19h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos19h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola14h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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