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Say ‘Dick’ in an Xbox One Video or Skype, Get Suspended By MS?

Apparently someone made an Xbox One video using Upload Studio that contained the word “Dick” in it, and Microsoft suspended this user from the app for 24 hours.

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allformats3802d ago ShowReplies(2)
TheEnigma3133802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

Wow really? They shouldn't be monitoring your conversations like that. Some people deserved to be called that. I hope this isn't true.

kreate3802d ago

They did say they will monitor u. And the user bought, agreed, and used it in such a way so....

One can argue it's also the user's fault as much as Microsoft.

Visiblemarc3802d ago

Are you serious? You a think terms of service waiver of 300 pages of indeceipherable lawyer-speak should allow them to eavesdrop on and censor a private Skype conversation?

If this is legitimately happening it should scare the hell out of each and every one of us. This is so close to the camera in the home of Winston from the book 1984 that it makes the hairs stand up on my neck.

Tell me this isn't true. This has to be false rumours and clickbait. I know the guy said it was text related re:Skype but that is still creepy as hell and would make me want to unplug Kinect immediately.

nveenio3802d ago

What if that's someone's name?

Hellsvacancy3802d ago

"Hay man I watched Dick Tracy last...................." SUSPENDED!!!

SilentNegotiator3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

Anyone named Dick deserves to be exiled for such a potty-mouthed name. /s

MS wouldn't even let that guy from "Fort Gay" keep his real town name in his info. MS loves to suspend and punish via keyword detection.

PLASTICA-MAN3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

WHAT? What does that mean? Our Skype calls aren't private? So they are really watching us? What if I say it in other languages to my fellow mates(some deserve to be called so, at least in private calls)?

Oh Btw, I have a Skype friend whose real name is Dick, I didn't see him around these days... Does that mean...? WTF?

I think Kojima knew about this thing in advance , That's why he aborted the name of the Studio "Moby DICK" and went back to calling it Kojima Productions Western Division, otherwise he will get MGSV and his entire studio banned. /s

Btw, I remembered something, dick in german means fat/thick, so will they ban any fat german gamer or person who is following a diet?

Ritsujun3802d ago

Xbone180'd, and Xbone720p'd.

solid_snake36563802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

"Hey Dick hows it hanging bro?" BANNED!

tokugawa3802d ago

what a load of rubbish

i spent 45mins skyping my dad yesterday and must have used enough swear words to make a sailor blush..

guess what, i aint banned

andrewer3802d ago

"Dick Grayson is my favorite Robin" BANNED

dmeador3802d ago

People need to chill out a little, and stop looking for ways/news to jump on, haha. He did not get banned for a monitored Skype call, it was a video he uploaded to the public domain.

user55757083802d ago

this is just ridiculous. anyone try pussy cat yet? probably get suspended for that too

CoolBeansRus3802d ago

Half the people that commented here didn't even read the article. MSFT did not ban him for saying dick.

tawak3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

Vice pres. DICK cheney, is the 46th Vice President of........................ "Banned"

Gaming1013801d ago

The X-bone hates dicks... insert joke here about the oversized X-bone being a fat lesbian who will cast vengeance on you for inserting a dick into your conversation... LOL

memots3801d ago

well that was a "dick" move.

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mhunterjr3802d ago

It doesn't appear they were monitoring conversations, just moderating their Upload service... which is absolutely necessary considering folks can upload video footage of themselves.

It appears being banned from Upload also means being banned from Skype. He wasn't banned for his behavior on Skype.

mydyingparadiselost3802d ago

"This is my experience with Skype: “Was typing to my buddy on Skype, typed a few words of profanity talking about movies, and when I jumped back to Xbox One, it said I was banned from it for the same reason, citing “past behaviour”.”

Cueil3801d ago

that's probably the real reason... he was temp banned from anything that uploaded videos

JBSleek3802d ago

That wasn't monitoring. He uploaded using the Upload Studio and MS suspended him.

It's just like Google would handle YouTube or any other upload service.

Visiblemarc3802d ago

No, no it isn't. Youtube is moderated based on community feedback. Also, private exchanges are NEVER moderated on Youtube.

Shaaunyb3802d ago

@Visiblemarc

So they don't monitor videos at all? They don't have something that detects the different skin shades to determine whether a video is suitable or not?

vallencer3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

He uploaded the video with him saying the word. It's a little different when there uploaded to be seen by everyone versus Skype being between your friends and not uploaded. Just don't upload videos with you cussing it's as simple as that.

Prime1573802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

I question the validity of this, but the average gamer is 32.. I don't mind hearing someone saying it. free speech. And should be able to upload.

There's a better way to moderate than this if it's true... example: give it a "mature rating" and allow parental controls to not allow the viewing.

torchic3802d ago

spare a though for Dick Dastardly, can't catch the pigeon and now forever exiled from Xbox One :(

some however might say that it's a blessing in disguise...

Cueil3801d ago

no one is named Dick... it's shortened name for Richard

Bobby Kotex3802d ago

No more talking about an American hero: Dick Cheney.

andyo133802d ago

When XONE was first announced this is what all the media were talking about. The fact that it's monitoring you so closely it can sense your heart beat and had to be on 100% of the time and always connected.

Yet a lot of people seem to have forgotten this and they're buying it in droves. So people seem to have a very short memory.

H0RSE3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

Seeing how both the upload software and the xbox services are both property of MS, monitoring doesn't sound as "1984" as some make it to be...

You are using their service, and thus them monitoring their service(s) doesn't really seem that out of the ordinary. When players opt to upload a vid to skydrive, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some form of monitoring, you know, to check for boobs, penises, or foul language. As for Skype, I have actually skyped with friends, with enough curse words flying around to empty a bar full of sailors, and no action was taken against us.

This isn't like Youtube - it is much more privatized. Virtually anyone can upload to youtube, yet only people with X1's can use the upload software and services included with it. The services MS has provided, isn't a soapbox for people to do and say whatever they want. It's like a private club with different rules. Whether or not their rules may be too strict or not, is an entirely different discussion.

That being said, There's a couple things:

1 - Is this a case of some Orwellian MS ploy over it's users? It is still just a rumor.

2 - If it is true, how far does this type of thing extend and what are the reasoning from MS? Many seem to think that MS would do these types of things, just because they're evil, and while that makes for a good movie plot, it doesn't really translate well to real life...

There has to be a reason would do these things, and one obvious reason would to assure others that their service(s) are "squeaky clean" and as non-offensive as possible, not only to make for a more enjoyable place for other users, but to essentially cover their asses from a legal standpoint.

3 - X1 owners agreed to the terms (which many likely didn't even read) so what's done is done.

Finally, the statement you made about the Kinect:

"The fact that it's monitoring you so closely it can sense your heart beat and had to be on 100% of the time and always connected."

Is false. It doesn't have to be connected or on 100% of the time. I have used the X1 without the Kinect plugged in.

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solidt123802d ago

What if your name is Dick?

1Victor3802d ago

so what should I call my friend Dick on XB1?

Tiechie3802d ago

Someone with a xbox one fancy testing this out?

solar3802d ago

When you play under a propriety systems you play by their rules.

Blachek3802d ago

The guy stated that he sent it in a message to one of his buddies, I imagine it isn't too hard to flag something as offensive...

Maybe he flagged it, or maybe Microsoft is running some code designed to clean up their online services... I am going to hold judgment on this issue until there are more instances of people being banned for their casual conversations amongst friends or it's confirmed that he sent a message that was flagged by another user.

Yodagamer3802d ago

So they're bad for making sure they have a clean environment? I don't know about you, but i wish it would have happened more on xbox 360 with the kids and annoying people.

n4rc3802d ago

Save your breath.. People don't want logic, they want to argue crap they already know the answer to..

Game uploads get sent to everyone.. You see them when you browse a game etc.. There has to be some control and moderation or you end up with the crap ps4/twitch just went through..

Your private conversations are not censored or moderated.. Only what you share with the public which includes little kids

FlyingFoxy3802d ago

Voice recognition has always been patchy at best, it could probably mistake Tick for Dick.. they are likely just opening themselves up to a lot of tech support issues with this.

lpc3801d ago

Meray lun pay charay Microsoft

gigoran3801d ago

All the people critisizing microsoftcck and they always online drm camera monitoring BS don't look so biased now do they? They were in fact CORRECT! So... suck it xbone supporters!

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Billybobjoey3802d ago

Hah. That's interesting. Microsoft trying to censor, there will probably be some way around it discovered at some point in time.

MasterCornholio3802d ago

Hey have you seen the new Dick Tracy movie?

-Microsoft bans user-

LOL

Xsilver3802d ago

what happens if the Kinect thinks you said Dick would you still get banned :/.

Gozer3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

It doesn't work that way. You have to upload a video to Skydrive and post it on the internet before anyone would try to censor you.

@The Meerkat
Because using profanity isn't tolerated. Why did you say"Why the F should MS decide what I can and cant say" Funny you censored yourself for N4G using a text message, but you feel its ok to use profanity in voice and video on Live. I think you are a sony fanboy trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

@xsilvr
And Im sure he would get suspended from Live had someone reported him for being inappropriate. This is a family service, not a drunken night club.

The Meerkat3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

What about words that begin with dick?

Like Dictator, Dictatorship (yes I'm talking about you MS)

edit Gozer: fair enough. I was expecting the power of the cloud to do the censoring. Still, why the F should MS decide what I can and can't say?

Xsilver3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

@Gozer wait hold on "he did something similar in Skype and was also suspended from that app, yet he as of this writing is still suspended" he got suspened from skype too.

Fishy Fingers3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

"Still, why the F should MS decide what I can and can't say?"

Because your using their service having agreed to their terms and conditions. Not condoning it, just explaining.

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Inception3802d ago

Hey, have you read the latest Batman? DICK Grayson got killed by the Joker!

-MS bans user-

!@#$%^&

:P

GortJester3802d ago

I was thinking the same thing, what if I upload my buddy and I playing Dead Rising 3 where one of the characters you play as is named Dick... Will they ban their own game when Nick refers to Dick by his name? Dumb....

OlgerO3802d ago

What the hell, is this not from your Nexus 7 ?

torchic3802d ago

"duuuude Dick Dastardly & Muttley In Their Flying Machines was such a great cartoon!"

-Microsoft bans user-

:(((

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Xsilver3802d ago

Really? in this day and age censorship is stupid it's called freedom of speech and people just Do what they want http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Kaneda3802d ago (Edited 3802d ago )

You can create your own game console or app and say what you want to say. No one will stop you. That is freedom of speech.

But if you use another network. You have to agree to their rules. If you don't they terminate your service.

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot14h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack12h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke198h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke194h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

-Foxtrot1h ago

"Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs"

He's literally just told you why

We're waiting like 15 years before a sequel comes out, it's insane

Skyrim came out in 2011, the next game is expected to come out in 2027 at the earliest so that's 16 years apart while Fallout 4 came out in 2015 and might not release until 2031, again 16 years.

We're fine with Bethesda trying new things and doing new IPs like Starfield but adding a new game to the cycle now means a bigger wait. Also Starfield didn't meet most peoples expectations, can you imagine waiting 15 years or so for a sequel and it's disappointing? It would feel even worse because you would have to wait another 15 years to see if they manage to come back from it.

They need to give it to another developer, we don't need main numbered titles but a spin off of Fallout and Elder Scrolls should be cycled in between the long gaps of the main releases.

Once again you are making out people want these games as quick as possible when all we want is a standard development time of at least 4 years or so rather than waiting 15.

mandf5h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor7h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave5h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor3h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

-Foxtrot1h ago

@Skuletor

Who's saying to rush the releases? No one is saying that...

People just don't want to be waiting 15 years for a sequel, they aren't working on the game for that long, you do realise that right? The issue isn't coming down to them working on the game and us "rushing them", it's the fact they are working on other games like Starfield now meaning bigger gaps before they even get started on them.

I bet you any more Elder Scrolls VI only entered full development last year when Starfield was finished despite being announced in 2018.

Duke194h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai6h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris5h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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