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Gran Turismo 6 Vs Forza Motorsport 5: Next-Gen Graphics Leap Is Obvious

Gaming Blend "While the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have seemingly stumbled out of the gate like a drunk and disorderly Amanda Bynes, the reality is that there is a remarkable difference in the graphical leap from seventh gen to eighth gen, even if some games don't seem like it."

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kiz26943798d ago

I would say subtle, not obvious. I can only see better AA.

abzdine3798d ago

i'm not sure that's GT6.
for a better and fair comparison not a garbage video like the one in the article, check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

FITgamer3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

It's from the GT Academy demo, all the promos on the track say GT Academy.

aceitman3798d ago

to be fair it should be done with the final builds , the video u have is from e3 build and we no it got downgraded big time .

FamilyGuy3798d ago

Cinemablend is f'n up with this.

It's really nice that they compared two of the exact same tracks on wo different games but they did a crappy job on checking their source material.

Neither video represents the game they are labeled after making the title and entire comparison fake.
Use real GT6 footage versus real Forza 5 footage.

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SolidStoner3798d ago

lol, Xbox one has reached PS3 level.. based on the video!!

nveenio3798d ago

The stupidest thing about this is that they aren't using the same lighting engine or road textures, and that is what makes the biggest difference. Even GT7 on PS4 could grant the same sort of differences. So this isn't really a comparison of generations. It's a comparison of game engines.

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Computersaysno3798d ago

GT6 has the most realistic colour palette of any console racer.

It also runs with a stupendous resolution for last gen hardware 1440 x 1080 on the demo earlier. Thats amazing for a sim aiming at 60FPS on a 7 year year old console.

The difference is there, but its not absolutely mind blowingly huge.

Just imagine what Polyphony could do with PS4 seeing how hard they push PS3. DROOL!

Me-Time3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

It's from the GT6 GT Academy demo that came out months ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here are much more recent builds of the game. Notice that Suzuka East has people in the stands and photographers.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The game isn't graphically/visually able to do that simply because there aren't any other cars on the track.

This video is of a race on a new track in GT which has time change and weather being showcased with people and photographers watching and with the checkered flag at the end of the race as the race was over by the time the driver got to the finish line.
http://www.gtplanet.net/gt6...

And recent Willow Springs, Streets of Willow track videos. There's only one other that I know of for this particular track, but it sucks BAAAAD.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

edit -
I posted the wrong link to one of the videos, but changed it now.

Me-Time3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
It was Dai Yoshihara drifting in that first video and in this one they (the creators) talk about the GPS data visualizer.

ExitToExisT3798d ago

Fanboyism has a limit you know..

Harmy6663798d ago

This video isn't very good for the purpose of a comparison. All settings need to be the same;

same weather
same car
same track (I know it was the same track...)

With all of those setting the same, you could compare them, but this doesn't help one or the other "win" a comparison video...

CryofSilence3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

To be honest, there isn't a huge difference. It's fairly clear that Forza looks better, but it's not quite a generational leap. I will end up with GT6 because I'm a fan of the series and I don't have enough reason to jump to the next generation yet (hopefully, The Order: 1886 will change that).

bunfighterii3798d ago

Yeah AA was the most discernible. They should have zoomed out and shown the cars too. It'd be good to get up close car model comparisons.

Trekster_Gamer3798d ago

The video quality was not very good. Forza as always blows away GT. If they had shown the cockpit, exterior views and all of the features this would be obvious, even to the fanboys, although most are not honest enough to admit it.

frostypants3798d ago

Trekster_Gamer, sorry, but that isn't GT6 in the video. It's not even running in the correct resolution, and the textures are all far below what even GT5 had.

frostypants3798d ago

Dude, you're blind if you don't think the video on the bottom looks way better. Better AA, better textures. THAT SAID...THE VIDEO ON TOP IS NOT GT6. Go look at any gameplay video of GT6 out there. That is GT on the PS2 or something.

Retroman3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

Question for all : if the ps4-X1 was planned,designed after ps3-360 launched back in 2005-06 7 years of development time why do we have such issues now?? i mean 7 years is a looooong time to test for disc trays malfunctions, loading time testing (X1) heat paste for heatsink done correctly (ps4) we would not need a guy on youtube disassemble his ps4 to show "how-to fix" video. where was Quality assurance and testers team during those 7 years????.

thehitman3798d ago

Thats because most of the time its engineering and concept in the first few years. Cerny said they worked on the ps4 about 5 years ago I assume they also had to wait for new tech etc as it was being brought out. Then there is always the manufacturing part wont always be perfect ever when it comes to making hardware. I can link you to any electronic product and you will always see bad reviews of people who get dead products or defectives even way after the product has been brought out. The internet has highlighted everything and put things in the spotlight so much that it seems like this is new or out of the norm when its not.

Retroman3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

its ok HITMAN. it was a thought and thought i throw it out there for feed back not for agrees or disagrees. i always say if you dont know something throw it out in the fire someone will answer it.
thanks for the info "defective new product" from the begining and glad internet give us consumers insight info on electronic that manufacture step-up their A game.

BallsEye3798d ago

Seems to me they went 2 player split-screen on both consoles (big graphic downgrade) then cut out 1 player screen from each and put them together. Also cars are not even shown. This comparison could be much better. On side note, yes leap is huge once you play both like they should be played. Whoever think otheriwse is fooling himself.

Retroman3798d ago

after reviewing the gameplay in my PERSONAL opinion.
on the left video GT6 graphic look more close to GT 1 ps1 lighting and shades. and forza 5 lighting and shades look close to life-like graphic's....said close to life-like did not say they are.though i am disappointed in the environment coloring in GT6 especially the grass and dirt brought back memories of ps1-ps2 GT enviroment. at lease in this video make it look ps1-2 era

mk40023798d ago

The GT6 footage is interlaced 1080i and creating those artifacts. That was not a fair comparison at all.

sentury1113798d ago

You guys don't want to see the huge leap in visuals. Or just willfully ignore it.

Here's a great video of a side by side race, Real Life vs. Forza 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

What's I'd like to see is Forza 4 vs. GT6 or GT5 vs. GT6 since that'd be a more fair battle.

kiz26943798d ago

That comparison was even worse, was that real life footage captured using a nokia 100?

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Snookies123798d ago

They should compare GT6 to Driveclub. That is a big difference.

Abash3798d ago

Gran Turismo 6 still looks fantastic compared to a racer on a next gen system. The thing that makes me excited for GT6 though is the boatload of content it has

frostypants3798d ago

That is absolutely 100% not GT6.

Sorry, gonna use all my bubbles pointing this out. Go look on Youtube for GT6 gameplay videos.

Stsonic3798d ago

Their needs to be some universal movement where comparing games on youtube becomes illegal.

FITgamer3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

Both games look bad on this video, smh.

Edit: The GT 6 footage is from the GT Academy demo, not sure if this qualifies for a fair comparison considering its not the final build.

MRMagoo1233798d ago

Thats not even the retail aka downgraded version of forza5 right , it looks like there are 3d crowds not the cutout paper 2d ones in the retail version. They still arent that far off each other tho lol, poor forza5 half the game forza4 was and now costs $100 for a good car

FITgamer3798d ago

Yeah this comparison is joke. The GT 6 footage is a demo from August and the Forza 5 footage is from the original buld from E3. To be honest not sure why they compare GT to Forza. Forza isn't even a true sim and won't be until they add weather effects and night racing. Both of which are very real aspects of racing. Not to mention that in Forza 5 you can earn a gold ranking without placing first in a race.

GribbleGrunger3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

Apart from the fact they managed to get bad footage of GT6, I don't see much of a difference. Nice to see real time lighting in GT6 which is probably why it has night and day cycles too.

Here's some better quality footage of GT6: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here's the crowds in Forza 5. And no, this isn't a fake, they are actually from the game:

http://i.imgur.com/cssuYeS....

Kayant3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

Seriously the crowd thing just feels so out of place & very last minute with the duplicates & the fact it's people from the development team. IMO they should have just cut it out completely.

Also looool at the fact GT6 has 3D crowds.

MatrixxGT3798d ago

Didn't turn 10 say with the power of the cloud forza5 wouldn't be possible? People saying cloud can do processing shouldn't 3d crowds be easily done in cloud and maybe 2d crowds for those offline folks. Just a thought it kind of sad really.

Shane Kim3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

They have cut so many corners with Forza it's not even funny. No wonder it looks good when there is no other thing to worry about than the cars gfx.

Trekster_Gamer3798d ago

The optometrist called and advised your prescription is ready.

Nujabes_3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

You you see the hypocrisy in your comment?

First you say they got bad footage from GT6, then you go and pick the best footage you can find.

You then proceed to pick the worst picture of FM5 you can find, just to make the game look bad.

You realize you're doing the same thing those guys are (according to you) doing?

FamilyGuy3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

These guys are showing footage from a game that is not GT6 yet they're calling it GT6.

These guys are showing footage from the E3 build of Forza 5 that is not representative of the final build whatsoever.

IN CONTRAST

He is showing the ACTUAL GT6 and
He is showing the ACTUAL Forza 5

The difference is much bigger than "showing the best of one and the worst of another".
You should be able to pick any spot on any track to showcase the games as long as they're in proper video quality. There shouldn't be a "best" or "worst" as the games should look good in all aspects. Blame Turn 10 for placing those eye-sore cut outs in an otherwise pretty game.

HighResHero3798d ago

I was going to mention that sites trying to prove something usually pick and choose what footage they use.
Of course it's also funny that we continue to see sites using youtube footage for high resolution comparisons.

GribbleGrunger3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

@Nujabes: What the heck are you talking about? Are you suggesting I should have found a higher resolution picture of the cut-out crowds in Forza 5? I can assure you, even in 1080p, they still look like cut-outs. I'm not being selective, that is how they look in the game, but the footage of GT6 is NOT what it looks like in game

Nujabes_3798d ago

You nit picked. You took a bad part of Forza and compared with a video of GT6. I'm sure if you dig around you can find ugly 2d trees on GT6 too. Why didn't you do that?

GribbleGrunger3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

It's a video trying to demonstrate what next gen looks like next to current gen and does a pretty bad job of it. I've posted a picture from a next gen game showing how they're using PS2 gen techniques in a next gen game. If people are going to open these debates up then I'm going to contribute. I very seldom bother with things like this unless they're clearly biased, as is this article.

The truth is, Forza 5 isn't what you would call a next gen title. It's really an upressed version of Forza 4, but for some reason certain sites are completely overlooking this. I'm not saying it's a bad game but to hold this game up as an example of what next gen means is completely erroneous.

frostypants3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

That isn't even GT6 footage. It's GT on the PS2 or Forza on the original Xbox. Come on people...you're being uber-trolled.

Tigan3798d ago

Does it really matter what the crowd looks like? If your buying a game like forza or gt it isn't for crowds or trees in the game. Forza is next gen running on better hardware but that's not to say that gt6 looks bad by any means.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar423d ago (Edited 423d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk423d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account422d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk422d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood422d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer422d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood422d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk422d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood422d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa422d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit422d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic422d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit422d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic422d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin422d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721700d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1700d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1700d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1700d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921700d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1700d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1699d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21700d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1699d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821700d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1700d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1700d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1700d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1700d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1700d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1700d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1700d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21700d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1699d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1699d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1700d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1700d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1700d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1700d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1700d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1700d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811700d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1700d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1700d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1700d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1700d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Looking back to 2014 and Forza Motorsport 5 Racing GOTY Edition

Carlos writes - "When it was time for Forza 5 to rock on up to the track, we were just entering the third generation of Xbox consoles, and to show off all that extra horsepower that would come inside the Xbox One, they wanted a flagship title that could truly showcase just what miracles the next generation could perform. And what better title than Microsoft’s beloved racer!"

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mijayire1732d ago (Edited 1732d ago )

Such s supreme racing title. Hands down racing franchise of recent decades. Nothing has come close in quality or ratings.

bluefox7551732d ago

Not to mention the worst rated game in the series.

mijayire1731d ago

Apart from Forza 5. Talking about generally the Forza series has always been rated high. Perhaps Forza 5 was rushed for launch. Although made up again by Forza 6 and 7.

IRetrouk1732d ago

I liked the game well enough, it was a good starting point for the new gen and helped them build up to what motorsport 7 is now, the controversies wasnt with the numbers of cars or tracks though, it was more to do with the pc footage being passed off as xbox one, the downgrade from what they originally had shown caused more upset than the numbers.