Forza Motorsport 5 Review | Gametrailers

"Do Drivatars steer Microsoft's premiere racing game in the right direction or veer off course?"

[Ksar]

Best racing game I ever seen.

[komp]

New to games?

[ZodTheRipper]

No, Ksar's just a known troll don't mind him. He's harmless thanks to his lost bubbles.

After all these microtransactions, the lack of content and seeing these huge graphical downgrades earlier today I don't think a 8.7/10 is appropriate anymore tbh.

[Sitdown]

Did they downgrade the game after release? If not, how can you say this score is not appropriate anymore?....did this person not review pretty much the final copy? Seems like people deny logic in order to bash. The reviewer gave the score despite the things you mentioned (and that they also mentioned)....they didn't pop up after the fact. Geez.

[GarrusVakarian]

@Sitdown

No, the retail build of the game is considerably downgraded from the earlier builds they showed off at E3 and other gaming events. Couple that with the fact that over half of the game (compared to Forza 4) has been cut out and sold as DLC raises eyebrows as to why this game is getting such good reviews.

@below

I didn't say the reviewers had a prettier version, just letting Sitdown know that the retail copy that everyone has (even reviewers) does not look as good as the build shown months ago.

[xPhearR3dx]

@Lukas_Japonicus

The retail build is what was being reviewed. They didn't give reviewers special Xbox One's and Forza 5 disc that look prettier than what they're sending to customers.

[xPhearR3dx]

@Lukas_Japonicus

I realize that, we all do. However his comment is saying that despite the downgrade, this reviewer still enjoyed the game and he thinks it's an 8.7. To some, those graphical downgrade will matter a lot, to others, not so much. But he's correct, he reviewed (the downgraded version so to say) and still enjoyed it and those issues didn't pop up after his score was given, they were always present.

[ltachiUchiha]

Great score but after all the down grades this game had compared to Forza 4, its really sad that the media still gives it a free pass. Can u imagine if all these downgrades happened to GT7? I bet the media would give it low scores like they did with killzone sf Despite killzone sf doing everything better then its last outing. Just goes to show, reviews are flawed unless they get freebees which is bs imo. Not downplaying forza 5 but just giving my honest opinion.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Alll true... I hate like hell I bought it. They got me...those motherfuckers got me.

[Rageanitus]

Don't know why ppl are bashing Forza just because its not Playstation.

I have been playing Grand Turismo for the LONGEST time and I am a huge fan of the series, but IMO Forza SO FAR looks like one one of the best racing games to come out in terms of graphics. Yes they downgraded alot of things, we get that but if we take the game from what it is NOW it is one of the best racers on the market at the moment.Despite all the comparisons with the BETA/alpha version to the final product it was still not a final product. We are gonna see alot of THIS in the console market it has always been like this. It's not like PC's where hardware is always envolving. Developers for consoles have to work with static hardware hence the focus is on balancing sacrifices with features and optimization.

The same applied to Gran Tursimo 5, when we found out that the alot of the cars cockpits did not have any premium textures. I did't mind much , but the xbox fanboys hammered it for some reason.

We should just stop with this fanboyism and just play the games.

[come_bom]

"Don't know why ppl are bashing Forza just because its not Playstation. "

Because fanboys are morons. Simple as that.

Enjoy the game for what it is.

[Hicken]

Has nothing to do with it not being PlayStation, and EVERYTHING to do with it being NOTHING like what they promised the game would be.

Oh, and also because it's getting a pass for not looking nearly as good as it should.

[Rageanitus]

Should/Promise is a very strong word. It just means you jumped to conclusions based off of Marketing ploys.

Just look at when killzone / halo got released so much ppl got caught up with the prerendered scenes and though it was actual gameplay without any basis.

[coolbeans]

So now reviewers have to examine the marketing side of a game to see whether or not some promises were fulfilled? Whatever happened to just examining the quality of the game?

[Hicken]

@Rage: when you display the game, it's natural that people are going to think the game you release will look like that. Especially when it comes to console-makers, as it's not like there's usually a PC version that's expected to look better.

When you got to trade shows, you expect the version of the game you see there to be very close to what you'll get on your home console.

@coolbeans: Yes, they do. Because reviewers need to know if people will be satisfied that what they bought equals what they were promised. If the game isn't as advertised, that needs to be as much a part of the review as the actual quality of the game. Does it over-deliver? Does it over promise? People can be disappointed or pleasantly surprised if the game exceeds or fails to live up to expectations; it's the job of a reviewer to give consumers that information.

[coolbeans]

That just sounds ridiculous. I mean sure, the "does it meet the hype?" idea works as some kind of a lead-in to the glut of a review, but to demand someone assessing the final quality of the game to also examine how it was marketed is a stupid expectation.

There's no point in me carping about something irrelevant parts in KZ2's tech demo not matching up with the final game when it was the best looking console game upon release or complaining about Don La Fontaine promise me "the most explosive action ever" when previews typically had a voice-over and not delivering.

Reviewers' only obligated part of their job is to measure the overall quality of a title in their perspective, not play Digital Foundry.

[mitford]

i think the driveatar is excellent and will actually keep my playing the single player

[ltachiUchiha]

My bad pplz I shouldnt have brought GT7 up, just a little upset that killzone sf has improved in so many ways compared to killzone 3 yet it got lower scores. Just saying. I shouldve never brought it up though since this is about Forza 5. My bad.

[electricone85]

Notice they said nothing about a graphics down grade? wonder why. not only do they not mention a graphic down grade they actually say "GRAPHICALLY" it stands as a clear show piece for next gen of consoles. Sony fans need to stop jumping all over BS articles as if they are true. You will keep lying to your self saying there is a graphic down grade when there clearly isn't.

[manic_maniac]

Played forza 5 last night veteran level, had a blast and pretty much always came last. Loved every minute of it. Im a massive racing sim fan from gt, forza, pcars, iracing and r factor amongst others and my best for a sim high is...............iracing, the one that many would say is the ugliest of the bunch due to the fact it is dx9 and it has just started using a 64 bit operating system. What it really offers though is imo the best sim racer ive ever played and it is basic graphicaly but the handling and the car models are brilliant. And speaking of paywalls ive already invested about £200-250 on dlc cars and tracks which i think is justified due to the quality of the content. Gt5 however promised the world but only delivered in a few areas, all the time spent on that game just to give me about 600 cars i wouldnt use along with badly represented rain etc etc kaz should of done less but with more refinement. Still cant wait for gt6 though, which i might add will have items locked behind a paywall, nearly every software house is incorporating it at the moment. So put your hands in your pockets, take out your money and enjoy eveything your game has to offer. What a xmas, forza 5 and GT 6.

[Jamaicangmr]

That's way too high considering the strip down to less than half of Forza 4 and expensive and undermining DLC practice. 8.0 would've been a more reasonable score. Don't encourage this type of behaviour against gamers.

[EasilyTheBest]

That's a pre baked comment Jamaican.

[Jamaicangmr]

Yup if Turn 10 isn't gonna put in the work to make Forza 5 a true upgrade from Forza 4 then i won't put in the effort to make a new comment. Lol!

[etownone]

It's great to have Forza as a launch game...

But I can't expect the quality to be as great as the other ones cause,
- it is a launch game
- the just released Forza last year.

[Hicken]

Turn 10 didn't make the last Forza. And according to Greenwalt, they were working on Forza 5 almost as soon as Microsoft was designing the XB1.

Yes, it's a launch game, so we can and SHOULD expect the next Forza to look MUCH better. But given how they had everything thinking the game would look- like the E3 build, for example, or whichever build they had on display for Jimmy Fallon to play- this has got to be more disappointing.

Yet, strangely enough, I see very few reviews mentioning it. Digital Foundry was pretty critical of all the downgrades, but nobody else seems to care. Which is odd, because I can only imagine how much flak Polyphony would have gotten if they'd done such a thing.

[Nujabes_]

Must be paid reviews amirite?

[NaViTo]

Best Downgraded Game of the Year! ;)

[McFlu]

well I am enjoying the game, but I'm not getting dlc right away, not until I can save money on it somehow. As for the graphics, it looks a little better than the last game, but think of the jump from Forza 2 to Forza 5, give them time and it'll get better. As for the lack of content, I am very upset to see so many cars go, and I still don't see why some are still in the game and/or haven't been replaced with newer versions of them. I can only hope they as least release tracks for free considering how much the cars cost. I still enjoy the game and I do have hopes for its future, even if people on here think that that is stupid of me.