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Console Failure Rates – Should We Really Panic?

Codec Moments looks into the engineering side of console reliability, the historical failures from the PS3 and Xbox 360 generation, and examines whether we should really be worried about the failures reported on the PS4 so far.

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Utalkin2me3806d ago

My main concern is the he lumped "Historical Failures" from PS3 and 360. Only one historical failure in that sentence.

Parapraxis3806d ago (Edited 3806d ago )

Historical Failures, just means from the past. Nothing to do with the actual amount. All previous gen consoles would have "historical" failure rates. You are seeing hyperbole where there is none.

Had they said "historically high", that would be a different story.

mikeslemonade3806d ago

One year warranty out of the box and to extend it to a total of 4 years you just need to pay $49.99. Not necessary to opt to $59.99 unless you travel with it.

Parapraxis3806d ago

Some people need to go back to grade school.

Utalkin2me3805d ago

@Parapraxis

Maybe you do not understand the meaning of "Historical Failure", Try googling it then come back to comment.

Parapraxis3805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

Sorry kiddo, you are wrong, in this case "historical" means past. Not the other meaning where "historical" would mean it's famous position in history, or landmark occurrence.

Ie:

Wii made an historical impact with it's introduction of the wiimote.
VS
Wii was historically, the 7th generation console from Nintendo.

https://www.google.ca/searc...

https://www.google.ca/searc...

But I will say your understanding of the English language IS a historical failure. (along with quite a few of the readers here)

Words can have multiple meanings, and in the case of the article where they are looking at data, facts and figures, they are looking at the historical data from last gen.

Thehyph3805d ago

Oh, dear.

Have we succumbed to semantic policing?

SolidStoner3805d ago

I think.. most of these faults could easily be fake.. made by MS or fanboys.. all that will happen when xbox one comes out... only time will tell whats really going on... now bad and good news pop up everywhere randomly... and whats real and whats fake.. cant really tell.. power of the internet.. everything about everything from everybody!

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Derekvinyard133806d ago

YES! would you guys buy a car if it had a high percentage failure rate? If anything has a failure rate , that is a bad thing.

Ezz20133806d ago (Edited 3806d ago )

"" If anything has a failure rate , that is a bad thing. ""

so what you saying is that you never bought any Electronic Device in your entire life ?! because every single device ever made have failure rate

also 2000 or even 5000 bricked console out of 1,000,000+ console
is pretty damn low rate
i think it's even less than 1%

colonel1793806d ago (Edited 3806d ago )

"if it had a high percentage failure rate?"

Do you have a source stating the PS4 has a high failure rate?

This is just an overreaction just because the PS4 is the new stuff. If it was the Xbox One, the headlines would be: "Red Ring of Death all over again, MS is doomed"!

People need to have a little of common sense!

Edit: Also, do you even realize how many iPhones and iPads are defective when they release? It's just that the gaming media is so lame, that like to overreact and exaggerate about everything, just for hits.

static52453806d ago (Edited 3806d ago )

Actually Cars fail quite often. Even straight off the lot. Just like in Fight Club, someone goes out and they figure out to see if the failure is worth the companies attention.

And honestly if you knew the acceptable failure rate of cars, by your logic, you should be pretty scared every time you hop in a car.

Happy Driving

EDIT: just to give you a idea these are failure rates from 2007. Using 20,000 new cars of each company were tested

Ford Focus 18%
Mini Coop 20%
VW Golf 19.2%

Just a example

Ausbo3806d ago

no. Playstation is less than .4% and microsofts will be low too. (assuming they learned from RROD).

New electronics are never perfect. They have a warranty, so don't fret.

Thatguy-3103806d ago

As long as my console isn't malfunctioning I'm fine. I bought one for me and one for my brother and both work. I feel bad for those that got the short end of the stick but I'm doing great playing Battlefield 4 and Killzone ;)

for we are many3806d ago

High failure rate is a cause of panic, be it in a console, electronics, cars, plumbing etc. What we are seeing with the ps4 launch and all the reports, videos and bad hardware reviews from verified buyers on Amazon is alarming to say the least, not only failures out of the box but also loud noises as well as the loudest fan and disk sound ever in a home console, slow interface and system overheating in as low as 2 hours of playing time is unheard of in a console, and in the face of all that you have the big corporate VG "media" websites like IGN along with blind fanboys executing what looks like The BIGGEST ORGANIZED DAMAGE CONTROL OPERATION in the history of this infantile business, instead of admitting that the system was rushed and that sony seemed to use low quality manufacturing process to reduce the cost as they often do and that they need to act to alleviate this problem, they are trying to find excuses; it may be relatively easy to damage control bad reviews of the hyped launch titles and to dismiss them as opinions which I find fine, you should enjoy whatever you like even if the scores are low, it doesn't matter at least to me, But to come and try damage controlling Hardware failures!! that's too much of either being a money fueled corporate shell or a blind Fanboy. Imagine if it was M$ or Nintendo, then you will begin to understand the primitive mentality of most people involved with videogames on a manufacturer, media and consumer level.

static52453806d ago

Most Consoles had failure.
NES faulty spring.
Xbox Disc read error
PS2 Faulty lens
360 RRoD
PS3 YLoD
WII U It was actually Nintendo who unintentionally bricked quite a few consoles

for we are many3805d ago

1-Not as major as we have here.
2-other "failures" were admitted by everyone including manufacturer and solutions were swift.
3-This time it's Damage-Controlled to epic proportion by the media, manufacturer and blind fanboys, I doubt if someone pays 400$ ends up with malfunctioning console is happy to damage control unless he's a blind fanboy.
4-Look all over the internet and see the schism between disappointed purchasers with failing ps4s and corporate media and fanboys trying to damage control these major problems, while ridiculing MS mostly and to lesser extent try to downplay Nintendo's well known hardware reliability standards.

JasonKCK3805d ago

The only people who should have a problem are those affected. I say no need for panic, I'm sure Sony will get those peoples PS4 fixed. Honestly I have had had more problems with some of the hardware on my PC than I ever had with consoles. Do people have a right to get angry or be annoyed? sure they do after all they just dropped hundreds on something that doesn't work.

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MRMagoo1233806d ago

best part of the article is this "To conclude this article, the only thing I can say is things aren’t looking disastrous for the PS4 yet, and the perceived high level of failures looks to be normal at this stage, and is probably exacerbated by the level of media connection we have now versus 7 years ago. It’s so easy for us to Tweet, Facebook and Blog all our bad news, and by nature it’s the thing we all latch on to when we read it. We’ve got an Xbox One launch in 6 days and there will be console failures there too. These will make the headlines alongside the PS4 numbers, and most likely set off a fanboy argument over who’s the most/least reliable" imo, the xbone fanboys really need to lay off the failure rate(which is below normal acceptable amounts) because it will be the same exact thing on the xbone day one and because the fanboys made such a big thing out of this, the xbone launch will be even more under the microscope to point out every single problem encountered.

Sci0n3806d ago (Edited 3806d ago )

yea and just like how the X1 fans trolled the PS4's 0.4% failure rate I know the sony fans are waiting to pounce back at them. It is actually pretty pathetic for both parties to antagonize each other over hardware failure. I do find it ironic as hell that out of all people xbox fans have the nerve to troll other fans about console failures when the early adopters experienced it first hand on the 360. I was a early 360 adopter and I was in the microsoft customer service threads reading all the fans cry there hearts out over there 360 consoles repeatedly failing. It was quite a disaster. I hope for nothing but the best regarding the X1's launch regarding console durability.

Majin-vegeta3806d ago

Hate to admit it.But I will be one of them.

Sci0n3806d ago

im going to let go of the revenge factor vegeta. This PS4 console is too great for me to stoop to such a low level of antagonizing X1 fans back over console failures. Let them be bitter by themselves.

Thehyph3805d ago

Amen, brother.

Anyone who wishes ill will to the extent of a hardware failure on another is no gamer. I feel for the few out there who've had problems. When I got my ps4 Friday night, I was almost losing my poop because the PSN wouldn't work. Took a breather, (cigarette) waited a while, and then everything fell into place. Smooth sailing since.

GrandpaSnake3806d ago

If you cant take it, dont dish it out.

neocores3806d ago

yes BECAUSE 0.04% IS SOO BAD WOW IM SOO SCARED

Ausbo3806d ago (Edited 3806d ago )

its actually .4% according to ign.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

its still a non-issue though

Ausbo3806d ago

why the disagrees. I state a fact and back it up with a source.

Wow.

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Death3806d ago

It looks like they took the amount of reported PS4's and applied them to the Taco Bell winners. Failure rate is determined during the duration of warranty, not just from defects out of the box.

OmegaShen3806d ago

No, if only if its only 0.04%. No there is no reason, now if its like the 360's fail rate that was 54%. Then its time to panic (but only the company is the one that needs to panic).

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Ranking the Devil May Cry Series

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "Upon finally finishing Devil May Cry 5 recently - after it spent several years on my “I’ll play that soon” list - I considered giving it a fittingly-named Late Look article. However, considering that this was indeed the final piece I was missing in the DMC puzzle, I decided to instead take this opportunity to take a look back at the entirety of this genre-defining series and rank the entries. What also made this a particularly tempting notion was that while most high-profile series have developed fairly evenly over time, with a few bumps on the road, the history of Devil May Cry has, at least in my eyes, been an absolute roller coaster, with everything from total disasters to action game gold."

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VersusDMC4h ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC2h ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Friendlygamer3h ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey6023h ago(Edited 3h ago)

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya1h ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde1h ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

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Unicorn Overlord is a tactical RPG masterpiece

Vanillaware's tactical role-playing game Unicorn Overlord is a beautiful mix of old mechanics and new-age graphics, with over 65 unique recruitable characters and a rich storyline.

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jznrpg3h ago

I have the game and downloaded it going to start it tonight and play it on the Portal.

NotoriousWhiz1h ago

Enjoy. This game is so much fun and so addictive.

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Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Has Appeared On The Xbox Store

Activision and Raven Software's 2006 action role-playing game, Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, has found its way to the Xbox Store.

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LG_Fox_Brazil9h ago

Used to love this one, but X-Men Legends 1 and 2 will always be my favorites, especially Rise of Apocalypse. Would pay some good money to play it today with online multiplayer, back then I had no way to get a modem

RavenWolfx59m ago

Yeah, I loved the Legends games so much.

ZeekQuattro8h ago

I remember buying them dirt cheap on the PS4 and then a few days later I read they were delisted. I was wondering why the bundle was price so low and got my answer when that happened.

Knightofelemia6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Sad to say this is one game franchise next to the Xmen that needs a sequel. I use to play the hell out of Xmen Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Was great when my cousin had the OG Xbox play with four other people and then playing online. Great games glad to see it reappear even though I own the discs love the mechanics of this game.

Terry_B6h ago

It got a sequel..but for dumbass #reasons as a switch exclusive.

shinoff21836h ago

It looked so horrible to. They should've kept it similar to the first two.

Asplundh6h ago

Because Nintendo funded it, they did the same for Bayonetta.

Knightofelemia5h ago

I totally forgot about the Switch sequel.

jukins6h ago

Misleading. This page is whats available for people who owned the game prior to delisting.

Abnor_Mal5h ago

The first game was the best imo.