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Opinion: I Won't be Getting a Next-Gen Console at Launch and Neither Should You

Lee Garbutt: "Why get in on the ground floor and have to wait for new games, when you can wait a mere 6-9 months and have a lovely selection of games to choose from? On top of that, why even choose a system at launch? One system could have far better exclusives than the other, why not wait until some of those are announced before picking a horse?"

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GribbleGrunger3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

A million people didn't take notice of articles like this and neither should you. Buy the console, drive the market and help build a bigger games library. Articles like this are asking you to kill next gen support. Buy those consoles people, be it Wiiu, PS4 or X1.

If lots of people DO take notice of advice like this, expect follow up articles from the same sites telling us next gen has failed: 'Wait, don't buy yet!" then "Wait ... next gen consoles aren't selling?" Do you see how stupid this is?

tdogchristy903810d ago

To be fair it works both ways. For those that argue that we shouldn't be told not to buy a console are just as guilty for dictating we should. each to his own.

GribbleGrunger3810d ago

Where are my articles telling everyone on the internet to buy a console?

tdogchristy903810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

@Gribble,

Sorry, I'm not saying they are, I haven't read your articles. I'm just speaking in general terms, not you specifically. just that it works both ways.

admiralvic3810d ago

To be fair, all of these articles are paradoxical in nature.

We should not buy next gen, because it will get better over time. - Assumes that companies are willing to take massive risks in hopes of getting you to buy a console and then their game or it assumes that many people will ignore the article and support the system anyway.
We should buy next gen, because it will show companies we have more faith. - The Wii was the highest selling system last gen, but it was largely ignored. There are some logical reasons for this, but companies were still willing neglect this huge segment of gaming.
etc

The thing is, if you have the money to buy a console and you want to experience it, then just do so. If you don't have the money and don't have the desire, then don't do so. I can't imagine there are many gamers sub 18 who can afford to throw down $400 of their own hard earned (this is important, because you generally don't value money till you know how hard it's to earn it) and haven't been around long enough to know that things always start off rocky and then, with luck, get better. However, none of these improvements are guaranteed.

evilbart3810d ago

This article makes no sense at all,why would I wait? If I buy the console now I will still be able to play the games released in 9 months time

SCThor3810d ago

Guess what, anybody have to buy the first batch before they produce a new one....Jesus, some people

ikkokucrisis3809d ago

I picked up BF4, COD, and AC4, but guess which game I've played the most so far?
WARFRAME. My god, how can this game be free?

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MidnytRain3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

By the same token, companies like Sony and EA should give me a product that isn't malfunctioning and giving me errors out the box. So no, I won't buy broken products day 1 because they haven't deserved it, and I like my ish to work. Especially when I can get a better version later for cheaper.

This is a general statement btw, so y'all keep your long johns out of a twist.

king_george3809d ago

Exactly how i feel. Ive rarely ever bought a console at launch. Theres just always a few kinks to work out so i almost always tend to wait a bit. Plus, theres always better deals later on

Eddie201013809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

The huge majority are not having problems, me being one of them. Most of the people buying a console on release day are die hard gamers, and most should know the in's and out's of a console launch, there has never been a perfect console launch, I know cause I have been through many of them. Guess what we have gotten through all of them pretty well even the Xbox 360's Huge launch problems.

The internet and the media by nature blows most everything out of proportion. Gaming media being the worst for being rumor mongers.

Almost all of the article written about the PS4 failure rate say at the end of the article that they don't know the extent of the failures, many reporting over and over with basically the same information and no hard facts. How about you wait till the facts are in, then report. Even with that said most do say that the problem is probably minimal.

Gaming media, entertainment media are so f$$%ing tabloid these days. they bitch about the fanboys but they created the fanboy mentality or at the least feed it.

MidnytRain3809d ago

Eddie20101

I said I was speaking generally, but I understand your sentiment.

Hicken3809d ago

Odds are- historically speaking- the errors won't go up or down by much from the launch models. There have been one or two cases in the history of gaming where the failure rate at launch was unacceptable. Actually, I think just one, and we all know what that one was.

Every company is going to have a given percentage of defective products at launch. It sucks for those who are affected, but that risk will exist as long as humans are imperfect and make things.

If everybody thought, "I'll just wait until the version with no bugs comes out," then that version would never exist, and they'd never buy anything. I hope I don't have to explain the mechanics behind WHY that would happen.

MidnytRain3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

Hicken

Lol, of course not everyone will do that. I'm taking advantage of being in the patient minority while the other saps throw themselves onto the frontline.

I'm picking up the inevitable revised/slim version for less. Like a boss.

Hicken3809d ago

So it'll be a couple of years before you get one, then?

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Visiblemarc3810d ago

Yep! No early adopters mean the death of console gaming. Period. There is literally no discussion necessary.

To those that don't believe this: you don't have a "perspective," you are wrong.

Without sales no games will be made, without games, no consoles will be sold.

Don't call yourself a gamer and then be too cheap to invest in industry. People have gone overboard with this bs about being "practical," it's just cheapness really...or brokeness, which is FINE, money doesn't grow on trees, but don't mask with tsk-tsking and acting high and mighty:

admiralvic3810d ago

The funny thing is how people trash the Wii U for these concepts, but fail to realize these concepts exist. The Wii U is very much so in a chicken/egg situation, which is a horrible place to be.

Gamer side:

I'll wait for games I want, since I can't justify a $300+ dollar system for Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Pikmin and Platinum Games (though I could totally do so for the last one).

Company side:

We'll wait till the market is large enough to get enough sales to actually cover our costs.

What happens in the end? No one buys it (leading to doom / gloom articles that discourage further support) and no games are made.

ZombieKiller3810d ago

I say buy if you want to. If you want a PS4 now, GET ONE! It's worth it. If it dies, send it out for warranty for free and play your PS3! You would be doing that if you didn't get a PS4 anyway!

I LOVE my PS4....everything about it! I barely have games yet and the system is still amazing! I realize the potential for the future. Greatness truly does await. Thank you Sony for creating a fanboy in me due to your awesome products.

MikeGdaGod3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

picked mine up midnight launch and i'm having a ball.

i bought a 2 year warranty for $60 from Gamestop (just in case) so no worries about hardware.

no shortage of games as i bought Killzone, 2K14, and Madden...add free PS Plus games Resogun and Contrast...free to play games DC Online, Warframe, and Blacklight...plus games i'll get as a Gamefly member AC4, BF4, CoD4, Knack, and Need for Speed.

i've got a full plate! why wait?!?!?!

edit: another reason i buy the warranty is in 1 year and 11 months i will walk into Gamestop and get a brand new PS4 with no questions asked.

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ZBlacktt3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

I've been loving this machine to death since launch night. As much as I game, this machine is a blessing. Super fast at preforming everything. I'm making share videos as well. The graphics for Next Gen is just worlds ahead of the last Gen. I've put about 30 hours into AC4 already. Just a really really good game.

Edit: btw, your deleted you other same story as this just to post it again. All to get rid of what people were posting/saying. Nice.... you fail again.

Nyxus3810d ago

Another one of these? I'm getting one at launch...

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Dark_Overlord3810d ago

Purchased every Killzone (and played them) on launch day, I'd hate to break tradition ;)

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Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow113h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos11h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos9h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje9h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia1h ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher58m ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon9h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum12h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola6h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia1h ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing6951m ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad8h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola6h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher57m ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai8h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher57m ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK7h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher56m ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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