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Opinion: I Won't be Getting a Next-Gen Console at Launch and Neither Should You

Lee Garbutt: "Why get in on the ground floor and have to wait for new games, when you can wait a mere 6-9 months and have a lovely selection of games to choose from? On top of that, why even choose a system at launch? One system could have far better exclusives than the other, why not wait until some of those are announced before picking a horse?"

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GribbleGrunger3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

A million people didn't take notice of articles like this and neither should you. Buy the console, drive the market and help build a bigger games library. Articles like this are asking you to kill next gen support. Buy those consoles people, be it Wiiu, PS4 or X1.

If lots of people DO take notice of advice like this, expect follow up articles from the same sites telling us next gen has failed: 'Wait, don't buy yet!" then "Wait ... next gen consoles aren't selling?" Do you see how stupid this is?

tdogchristy903810d ago

To be fair it works both ways. For those that argue that we shouldn't be told not to buy a console are just as guilty for dictating we should. each to his own.

GribbleGrunger3810d ago

Where are my articles telling everyone on the internet to buy a console?

tdogchristy903810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

@Gribble,

Sorry, I'm not saying they are, I haven't read your articles. I'm just speaking in general terms, not you specifically. just that it works both ways.

admiralvic3810d ago

To be fair, all of these articles are paradoxical in nature.

We should not buy next gen, because it will get better over time. - Assumes that companies are willing to take massive risks in hopes of getting you to buy a console and then their game or it assumes that many people will ignore the article and support the system anyway.
We should buy next gen, because it will show companies we have more faith. - The Wii was the highest selling system last gen, but it was largely ignored. There are some logical reasons for this, but companies were still willing neglect this huge segment of gaming.
etc

The thing is, if you have the money to buy a console and you want to experience it, then just do so. If you don't have the money and don't have the desire, then don't do so. I can't imagine there are many gamers sub 18 who can afford to throw down $400 of their own hard earned (this is important, because you generally don't value money till you know how hard it's to earn it) and haven't been around long enough to know that things always start off rocky and then, with luck, get better. However, none of these improvements are guaranteed.

evilbart3810d ago

This article makes no sense at all,why would I wait? If I buy the console now I will still be able to play the games released in 9 months time

SCThor3810d ago

Guess what, anybody have to buy the first batch before they produce a new one....Jesus, some people

ikkokucrisis3810d ago

I picked up BF4, COD, and AC4, but guess which game I've played the most so far?
WARFRAME. My god, how can this game be free?

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MidnytRain3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

By the same token, companies like Sony and EA should give me a product that isn't malfunctioning and giving me errors out the box. So no, I won't buy broken products day 1 because they haven't deserved it, and I like my ish to work. Especially when I can get a better version later for cheaper.

This is a general statement btw, so y'all keep your long johns out of a twist.

king_george3810d ago

Exactly how i feel. Ive rarely ever bought a console at launch. Theres just always a few kinks to work out so i almost always tend to wait a bit. Plus, theres always better deals later on

Eddie201013810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

The huge majority are not having problems, me being one of them. Most of the people buying a console on release day are die hard gamers, and most should know the in's and out's of a console launch, there has never been a perfect console launch, I know cause I have been through many of them. Guess what we have gotten through all of them pretty well even the Xbox 360's Huge launch problems.

The internet and the media by nature blows most everything out of proportion. Gaming media being the worst for being rumor mongers.

Almost all of the article written about the PS4 failure rate say at the end of the article that they don't know the extent of the failures, many reporting over and over with basically the same information and no hard facts. How about you wait till the facts are in, then report. Even with that said most do say that the problem is probably minimal.

Gaming media, entertainment media are so f$$%ing tabloid these days. they bitch about the fanboys but they created the fanboy mentality or at the least feed it.

MidnytRain3810d ago

Eddie20101

I said I was speaking generally, but I understand your sentiment.

Hicken3810d ago

Odds are- historically speaking- the errors won't go up or down by much from the launch models. There have been one or two cases in the history of gaming where the failure rate at launch was unacceptable. Actually, I think just one, and we all know what that one was.

Every company is going to have a given percentage of defective products at launch. It sucks for those who are affected, but that risk will exist as long as humans are imperfect and make things.

If everybody thought, "I'll just wait until the version with no bugs comes out," then that version would never exist, and they'd never buy anything. I hope I don't have to explain the mechanics behind WHY that would happen.

MidnytRain3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

Hicken

Lol, of course not everyone will do that. I'm taking advantage of being in the patient minority while the other saps throw themselves onto the frontline.

I'm picking up the inevitable revised/slim version for less. Like a boss.

Hicken3810d ago

So it'll be a couple of years before you get one, then?

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Visiblemarc3810d ago

Yep! No early adopters mean the death of console gaming. Period. There is literally no discussion necessary.

To those that don't believe this: you don't have a "perspective," you are wrong.

Without sales no games will be made, without games, no consoles will be sold.

Don't call yourself a gamer and then be too cheap to invest in industry. People have gone overboard with this bs about being "practical," it's just cheapness really...or brokeness, which is FINE, money doesn't grow on trees, but don't mask with tsk-tsking and acting high and mighty:

admiralvic3810d ago

The funny thing is how people trash the Wii U for these concepts, but fail to realize these concepts exist. The Wii U is very much so in a chicken/egg situation, which is a horrible place to be.

Gamer side:

I'll wait for games I want, since I can't justify a $300+ dollar system for Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Pikmin and Platinum Games (though I could totally do so for the last one).

Company side:

We'll wait till the market is large enough to get enough sales to actually cover our costs.

What happens in the end? No one buys it (leading to doom / gloom articles that discourage further support) and no games are made.

ZombieKiller3810d ago

I say buy if you want to. If you want a PS4 now, GET ONE! It's worth it. If it dies, send it out for warranty for free and play your PS3! You would be doing that if you didn't get a PS4 anyway!

I LOVE my PS4....everything about it! I barely have games yet and the system is still amazing! I realize the potential for the future. Greatness truly does await. Thank you Sony for creating a fanboy in me due to your awesome products.

MikeGdaGod3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

picked mine up midnight launch and i'm having a ball.

i bought a 2 year warranty for $60 from Gamestop (just in case) so no worries about hardware.

no shortage of games as i bought Killzone, 2K14, and Madden...add free PS Plus games Resogun and Contrast...free to play games DC Online, Warframe, and Blacklight...plus games i'll get as a Gamefly member AC4, BF4, CoD4, Knack, and Need for Speed.

i've got a full plate! why wait?!?!?!

edit: another reason i buy the warranty is in 1 year and 11 months i will walk into Gamestop and get a brand new PS4 with no questions asked.

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ZBlacktt3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

I've been loving this machine to death since launch night. As much as I game, this machine is a blessing. Super fast at preforming everything. I'm making share videos as well. The graphics for Next Gen is just worlds ahead of the last Gen. I've put about 30 hours into AC4 already. Just a really really good game.

Edit: btw, your deleted you other same story as this just to post it again. All to get rid of what people were posting/saying. Nice.... you fail again.

Nyxus3810d ago

Another one of these? I'm getting one at launch...

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Dark_Overlord3810d ago

Purchased every Killzone (and played them) on launch day, I'd hate to break tradition ;)

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot10h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo5h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke194h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke1934m ago(Edited 30m ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf2h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor3h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave2h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor28m ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke1933m ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai2h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris1h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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