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PlayStation 4′s Airflow Affected By Horizontal and Vertical Positioning

JPS Writes: "Whenever someone buys their new console like the PlayStation 4, many are wondering if there’s really a preferred way of positioning the console. Is horizontal, which is the default position, any better than standing it up vertically?

Just like the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3, the recently released PlayStation 4 is designed to go both ways: horizontally and vertically. When it comes to deciding which one is the best, it really all comes down to your personal preference. However, there are pros and cons in each of the position that you need to worry about. The same rule still applies on the positioning just like on other consoles."

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AlexanderNevermind3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

Cons:

Wobbly
" There’s currently a design flaw on the PlayStation 4 right now. If you decide to put it in horizontal position, you will notice that it doesn’t stay flat enough on the table or on your entertainment set. "

Ok, I've had the system for 3 days now and it hasn't wobbled once. Seriously, who is pushing on the top of their PS4 to make it wobble? Or better yet show me some footage of it wobbling without someone pushing on top of it.

Stsonic3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

Well said.

HammadTheBeast3809d ago

Not sure how you'd make it wobble...

I think you'd have to press pretty hard to make it wobble, it's the slightest design flaw.

IRNMUNKEY3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

Hmm if horizontal not recommended then it should come with the stand. Think you're getting yourself confused.

Only thing I've heard is that Xbox One is only horizontal.

Edit: comment I replied to was deleted! Someone said Sony had stated that horizontal wasn't recommended

xHeavYx3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

Wait, what? You are not supposed to press down the side of the console down while you play? I've been doing it since the PSX! /s

cr33ping_death3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

What! It wobbles!? Now i want my money back... My PS4 plays my games just fine....but if my console wobbles.....well thats a deal breaker now isnt it. Seriously? so nitpicking has come down to wobbling? Lol.

imt5583809d ago

I expect more anti PS4 news. Let's see.... Another news : Blu-ray won't come out

I knew that will be bunch of news which described faulty PS4 console after PS4 launch

HAC5223809d ago

agreed, but i just keep thinkin, whose idea was it to put one set of pads on the edge, and the other set in the middle/3/4 mark? i just dont understand, this never should have been an "issue" to begin with

kneon3809d ago

@HAC522

It's obviously a deliberate design decision and not a design flaw. By having the HDD cantilevered out from the rest of the console it will help to dampen vibrations.

ZBlacktt3809d ago

LOL, I know... what is up with these Internet screen name stories. Do they not realize over 1 million people have these very same consoles? I've put 30 hours into AC4 in the very short time I've had the system. In other words, not a single issues in performance.

I lay the machine horizontal btw. With out the stand it's not worth the risk of anything happening. Since the console is SO slim ( Damn nice ).

dkgshiz3809d ago

Yep, its all just hog wash. Then there was that really fake rumor about the dualshock 4's analog sticks rubber ripping apart after a week. Its all malarkey and BS. I have my PS4 horizontal right now and no matter how hard I try I can't wobble it. Most likely someone put a tiny pebble or something underneath it and posted a a crap video about how it wobbles.

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt3809d ago

mine doesn't wobble at all. only when you push it down on one side which i don't do… so it doesn't wobble.

Who3809d ago

Unless you're sitting on your PS4, this is not an issue.

nirwanda3809d ago

Av magazines usually recommend blutack to stop any movement and vibration, it may help with disk read speeds too and help the hdd.

Soldierone3809d ago

You have to press hard on the back corner to make it wobble. it was the first thing I test, at first I just set my hand on it, and was like "wth it doesn't wobble!" then I pressed down and went "oh.... really??"

I have my PS3 sitting on top of it and it didn't move at all when I did that.....

nveenio3809d ago

Mine is horizontal, and it's got no wobble at all. Maybe this person's table is crooked.

KyoSiegfried863809d ago

Yes.. please, stop this wooble nonsense.
Everyone that thinks it woobles, watch this and feel stupid...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GHOSTxx4203809d ago

It's not like it affects games play or the way the system works. Mine wobbles if I push down on it but it doesn't bother me I never push down on my console anyway.

tawak3809d ago

Ghost pushing ps4 to wobble, or have someone wobble it while you play. so I guess its a cons according to the review.

Anarki3809d ago

I always stood my PS1 up on its side too. Solely because it always had issues reading discs and shoving it on its side dropped the lens closer to the disc and it seemed to read it properly. lol good ol' ps1

zero_gamer3809d ago

Mine doesn't wobble. It's as sturdy as it should be.

BG115793809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

This is actually a big issue in Japan with all those earthquakes and all.
No wonder it's been released later over there. ^^

@AlexanderNevermind bubble up for well said.

Dee_913809d ago

My PS3 wobbles when theres crumbs or something under it...so i threw it away

DeadlyFire3809d ago

Wobbly or not. Has common sense forgotten that its easy to level out things even so.

CuddlyREDRUM3809d ago

That is what I was thinking, there was some IGN video or something saying to put Post It notes underneath the left side of the console.

Why? That is the most ghetto thing I have ever seen.

shadow_lawless3809d ago

aren't you supposed to use the official stand if you ant to put it on its side??

neocores3809d ago

0.0 first it was failing system now its wobbleing 0.0 wow the fanboys are strong. its like say What if i drop this xbone from a 15th floor building and see if it breaks

indysurfn3808d ago

I'm looking at my xbox360 it has vents that will get blocked if I lay it on the side OR stand it up. It is meant to have vents no matter which way you lay it. Obviously if you lay it or stand it you will be blocking one of the sets of vents. The I would bet Microsoft paid for this article since they do not have vertical ability, which means they will only have one set of vents. Only a box that has just one position will not have a vent blocked.

BattleTorn3808d ago (Edited 3808d ago )

Does a Teeter Totter or Seesaw have to be "teetering" or moving to be defined as such?

No.

Therefore, console doesn't need to be "wobbling" to be defined as "wobbly."

Quit defending a terrible oversight with circumstances like 'who pushes down on their console'

// right, we only level-off items that are design to withstand presure - levelling a electronic BOX is simpy a waste of resourse /s //

@neocores
Did you seriously compare having a console sit flat and stable on a flat surface to DROPPING A CONSOLE FROM A 15THFLOOR???!!TOTALLY THE SAME THING, RIGHT!?
shhheeesshh

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Funantic13809d ago

I'm debating is it better to turn my PS4 off completely or put it on standby. It seems like turning it off completely would help it stay cooler and perhaps last longer. I'm concerned just because of these articles and I saw a few technicians take a few PS4s apart on YouTube. One guy claimed that the thermal paste on the PS4 was cheap and already hard and wouldn't last for more than a year. Then another guy showed that the heatsink had no clamps for air tight heat dissipation. These guys talked like Sony cut corners.

thekhurg3809d ago

Standby is what I've been using since I unboxed it. Hardly anything is running hard enough to generate the amount of heat required to damage anything.

Also, don't just assume the claims people make on youtube are accurate. A lot of people just like to make controversial claims and wild accusations to draw in hits and generate fear.

xHeavYx3809d ago

First of all, don't believe crazy claims. That said, I've always disconnected the main power cord after I'm finished playing

cyclindk3809d ago

I keep mine on a on a 75 degree tilt, like this = /

And when I get my second one I will orient them like so, = /\

SilentNegotiator3809d ago

It makes sense. You put it vertical and the heat keeps getting soaked up into higher and higher parts of the hardware (because heat rises).

Vertical and the heat goes through less parts.

SilentNegotiator3809d ago

Obviously I meant "horizontal" in the last sentence.

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re2_apocalypse3809d ago

I prefer my consoles vertical. I remember having my PS2 when I was 16; and it (kinda) died within a 1-2 years. I placed it vertical and it lasted a little bit longer. Then I finally replaced it, and I still have that PS2. It's an old system, and not the greatest but still works when I do use it. Never looked back on having them vertical if possible

TBONEJF3809d ago

always leave your game console FLAT ON IT'S BELLY not on it's side PEOPLE

popup3809d ago

If you kick it, it moves around the floor. tut, another obvious flaw.

Mister_Dawg3809d ago

Horizontal action is always more fun :-)

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PoSTedUP3809d ago

i like verticle but often switch. judging by the thermal images, the ps4 should be placed upside-down if in the verticle position. the hottest part was at the bottom; you want that area as high a possible in the system escaping right out the top through vents. having it at the bottom allows all that heat to pass through the systems parts (because heat rises, duh), as well as build up, and is a lot more wear 'n tear on the system.

PoSTedUP3809d ago

this is only if you choose to have it in the verticle* position, obviously it is better to have it horizontally bc it runs cooler. also only if it has vents on both sides to let the heat escape out of the bottom (that is now flipped upside-down as the top, again only in the verticle* position). that is, if it IS the heat that is killing them in the verticle poition. that, we do not know yet. but it would be simple physics to let the heat escape out of the place closest to the top through vents and not to let it build up through all of the systems parts b4 it escapes.

PoSTedUP3809d ago

LOL, i kno right... wtf was i smoking º_º

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01animeking3809d ago

horizontal i dont want tip my console by accident and f it up

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow17h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos5h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos3h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje3h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon3h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola48m ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum36m ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola25m ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

SimpleDad2h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola48m ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos37m ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai2h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK2h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh1h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

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Warframe's Protea Prime Access launches on all platforms on May 1st, 2024

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