Iron Galaxy CEO Dave Lang talks about how the differences between the two resolutions is a red herring.
In early February, cloud storage space will be expanded from 10GB to 100GB for PS Plus members — giving PS4 owners even more space to keep all those game saves.
For Honor and Hitman is featured on PS4. Also included are:
Divekick, PS3 (Cross-Buy with PS Vita)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3
Gunhouse, PS Vita (Cross-Buy with PS4)
Rogue Aces, PS Vita (Cross-Buy with PS4)
Yes, I owned it only pre-trophy release, so I want to play it again bc a)trophies and b) it's a damn good game.
Only wish Vita didn't go out on such a whimper. Considering JRPG fans are the ones probably still playing it to this day, they could have given us something solid. Demon Gaze 1 or 2 (although I already own 1), or a similar labyrinth JRPG, or something else entirely. At least 1 non-indie.
Hitman 1st season is very solid! I have been wanting to buy that still, so I'm excited for that. For Honor looks interesting, although I'm not much of a MP guy. I'll give it a shot considering the theme.
Overall, great month, despite the Vita whimper.
Dont have either, great month afaic. What a great send-off for the ps3 with MGS4...
Yeah I recently dusted off my vita and took the plunge and brought a bigger memory card to hold all the awesome games I kept in saying it would be nice to play but it's to annoying to backup and download and play.
I've spent the past week playing games like borderlands 2, AC liberty, Killzone Merc, ratchet and Clank the list goes on and honestly the vita had so much potential it's just such a shame Sony gave up on it so easy it really was the switch before the switch in some ways like I was able to cross play my save games between PS3 and vita to pick up where I left off
Honestly, pretty great month, cool stuff. I also just repurchased games pass on Xbox so I have so many games to play now it's overwhelming lol
I never played it again since the trophy patch, so this might be a good reason to do so. More backlog I guess
So glad they expanded cloud saves to 100GB. I was just uploading my game saves and didn't have enough space.
It's insane to think we used to save our data on a 15 mb memory card, usually in a 1mb slot in the PS1 days to what we have now.
for some reason save files for ps4 are huge even for the same games where they are tiny on ps3 ...
funny enough i believe they get compressed before uploading to the ps plus but ps plus still reports the uncompressed size.
When i was on a real slow connections 30 mb files would upload in seconds which judging by my connection at the time means they were < 1 mb
Digital games are great, convenient, and load a bit quicker. But games are no longer in single digit GB, they are going into double digit GB and wouldnt be surprised if next gen, we see games that 100gb plus. Even with hard disk going cheaper, you will run out room fast.
Yea, I was going through recently deleting auto-saves from demos and betas. Not that I care to keep those, it's just good to not have to squeeze out every hidden MB to save a game. Some of them can be quite large.
@StormSnooper
Where did you get that impression? lol
It is a reference to the optional button (X) mashing some cut-scenes had in MGS4 for flashbacks.
To me personally it is one of the best games of all time, when it released it has truly blown us away by its gameplay, graphical fidelity and cinematography.
It also had one of the most heart-wrenching endings i have ever seen... *ugh....someone is cutting onions again*
The last great MGS. I'll always pretend MGSV didn't happen. MGS4 closed everything it needed too. It's a shame the direction it went in with V
What about Peace Walker? People always forget about that one. I think MGSV is great by the way, but MGS4 also got a lot of hate when it was new.
Wow! I've always wanted to have MGS4 as digital, planning on playing back to back MGS games on my PS3.
I really hope they don’t think upping cloud storage is going to be a suitable replacement for two different libraries of games. Since they’ll be removing value they need to make up for that value or drop the price.
Not to mention another company gives out cloud storage to all users of their console for free, not just subscription members.
Pretty sure they will be adding PSVR rather soon.
Again worst case your paying 16 cents a day for online gaming.
What else is that cheap, I spend 2.50 for a second cup of coffee per day that works out to $912.50 yearly.
$47.99 (cuz you only buy when on sale) per year is nothing.
But that’s absolutely stupid and not adding any value either. PSVR games have already been distributed by PS+.
I’m also positive more people benefit from PS3 & PS Vita games versus PSVR. There’s even more Vitas out there versus PSVR. There’s definitely more PS3s.
I like your coffee example but it’s poor. I buy coffee for between $4.50 and $8. What I buy with that amount of money provides me with over 200 cups of coffee.
But they also provide services that the other side doesn’t like free to play without paywall Or Spotify background music (unless I think they also got it recently?) I’m sure there are others.
@undertaker - only a handful of PSVR games have been given out on PS+. it's not every month
Always have to have that one guy that thinks he's owed everything for 60 dollars a year.
Or maybe I know how to identify that going from the current program to the proposed one:
PS3 games
PS Vita games
PS4 games
Cloud storage
PS4 games
Cloud storage
It really doesn’t take a rocket scientist to identify they’d effectively be removing half of the current PS+ program and yet still charging $60 a year.
So again, there’s no twist. That’s effectively removing value.
Oh, and to you I say personally, isn’t that like the one who always comes charging in when anything negative is pointed out about Sony?
@Undertaker: Apply for a job at Sony and give them your feedback.
I mean...for someone to complain about this is really baffling.
always have to have some die hards defend moves that aren’t in the consumers favour. They are giving you less for the same money. How is that a good thing?
That well is drying up dude. There's been such measly choices on the PS3 and Vita for months now. Could even go as far as to say 2 years. It had to end sometime and there was plenty of pre warning.
Not exactly while yes my first cup of coffee from home is yes $4-8 for a pound of coffee yields sure 200 cups of coffee.
My second coffee when I'm at work: the local coffee shop charges me $2.50 for my cold brew, per coffee.
So not a poor example at all.
As for the PS3/PS Vita time to put them to rest, it's been 13 years of support for PS3 and plenty for a failed device like Vita, Time to move forward with PS4/PSVR. Not only that we don't know what their plan is for PS4 perhaps they up it to 3 games per month. Plus free MP games are not behind a paywall, unlike some other company.
I have a travel cup so I don’t have the added expense when I go out. The point is you’re making the choice to buy that second cup, not being forced to.
That’s also the point. At this time there has been zero explanation about what will be added. They have made it very clear what they will be removing. So at this point Sony has a choice, exactly as I said in the first place. I don’t see upping cloud storage as a replacement to removing full titles and libraries. They can either add content or drop the price. But as is should not be acceptable. They’re literally preparing to charge the same for less.
And that other console makes you pay to play F2P games. And the only reason you are getting games in the first place on the other console is because of this console. You all, including myself, paid for Live last gen and got nothing. And fanboys praised it. All of you, again including myself, still paid it. I actually stopped after my 3 console got the RROD but most continued. People complained about not getting AAA games and now that we are getting AAA games, some are still complaining. Most people don't buy every single AAA game that comes out including myself so this month is great for a lot of people.
They didn't have to up the storage but they did. We don't know what will happen once they stop with giving out PS3 and Vita games. Plus ,I thought no one owned a Vita and now you want all the games for it. I don't get it. How about you wait and and see what they do first before complaining and just enjoy all these games you are getting now. Plus all the games you have got all these years that they have been doing this even before this gen.
Question: How long do you want them to continue to give out PS3 and Vita games seriously? We won't mention the other console because they just started this gen and not at the very start either. This month, the games offered pretty must offset the cost of a yearly sub to PS Plus. I will put these games in my already huge backlog. I am grateful. I don't care if they just gave out 1 game. Anything is better than nothing and we know who started that....
I think his point is if you take the before value and after value, they are giving you less.
I think he want to be given something of equal value that he was already getting for his money, not less.
So it doesn't have to be PS3 and PSVita games.
I mean, we are getting less for the same price so I agree. Idk what the downvotes are for. It's common sense. And no it's not entitlement or thinking I'm owed something. I hope they throw in an extra game. On a side note, I wish they'd take the ps3 games that are given every month and put them on ps now. I'd love to play MGS4 again but don't have my old ps3
Your logic is flawed…You keep claiming the value is in the number of games offered…But the value can be made up in several ways…Let me give you just 2 examples:
More AAA PS4 games throughout the year. Or maybe…More recent AAA PS4 games (the more recent a game is, the more it costs the consumer…thus creating more value if they get put into PS+ sooner)
I don’t have to have logic to say that Sony has not stated one little bit of what you just did. So until they do again, this isn’t hypocritical. They’ll be removing content with no replacement at this point in time.
And as evidenced above apparently the majority don’t have an issue with that, even if they’ll be paying the same.
Makes perfect sense right? Claiming the value could rise while arguing that the cost should stay the same? And apparently there’s something wrong with wanting the same amount of content. But cutting content in half is cool too because it’s old content.
I didn't realize XBL does cloud for non-Gold members. That's nice.
I suspect Sony will share some news about something for PS Plus users before March as I don't think they'll like having MS give away more games per month than them. Maybe something that utilizes PSNow games somehow... Just wishful thinking
Removing PS3 and vita games does not change anything because most of the people does not own those systems but increasing cloud storage benefits all members that it is very important especially with PS5 when saves going to take even more space.
The Vita and PS3 have lived good lives but it’s time to let go . I still play my Vita but I’d rather have PSVR games because generally what we get on Vita isn’t so great. PS5 is coming and it’s time to transition . I download the games they give away on PS3 but I either have them already or rarely play any of them. This was going to happen no matter what and right before PS5 coming out is longer than I had expected. They will replace it with something and someday we will get PS5 PSVR2 and maybe even ps Vita 2 games ( I really hope so!) All good things come to and end
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'When asked if there was much noticeable difference between 1080p/60 FPs and 720p/60 FPS, Lang stated that, “No, I think it’s pretty much a red herring. Most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.'
There is a difference. A HUGE difference. Wow! Devs are downplaying the difference between 1080p and 720p. The same devs who were b*tching and complaining about power restraints on current gen.
I understand the fact that launch games don't display the full power of any console, but the PS4 is more powerful than the XBO. It's that simple. We have proof in the form of real world performance.
Well, we see what we see, and it's already happening. So far, not a single 720p PS4 game.
Is this a joke?
If there was no clear difference we wouldn't be discussing it.
Jesus man. Damage control on steroids. Your competition smashes records and you're touting 720p as on par with 1080p?
That's just sad.
Its not too early. The machine is what it puts out. If it puts out native 720p then that's what it is. Why confuse people?
Lol.
Anand Shimpi, AnandTech( reputed tech site)
For the first time the guts of both the Xbox and PlayStation are very similar - their processor and memory hardware vary in performance but not capabilities. Gone are the days when Sony's machine was substantially more difficult to program for than Microsoft's. In fact, the PlayStation 4 has appreciably "MORE GRAPHICS HORSEPOWER" under its hood than the Xbox One, THERE's NO WAY AROUND THAT FACT". Both firms have licensed the same GPU (graphics processing unit) architecture, but Sony's chip has 1152 "cores" compared to Microsoft's 768. Microsoft runs its cores at a slightly higher speed, but the maths works out to Sony having about a "40%" peak potential graphics performance advantage.
People thinking there is no power difference are misterx's minions lol.
Perception, once initially established, is a hard thing to change.