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Foxconn Intern Claims to Have Sabotaged PS4 Manufacture

Corrupted Cartridge writes "According to a snapshot of a deleted forum post, the interns at a Foxconn manufacturing plant in Yantai, China have sabotaged the PS4."

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Mikelarry3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

oh boy boy boy boy, i think i need move to a desert island and come back after the 29th

edit: one thing i did notice tho is i am sure MS used foxconn as well but from the article "The intern notes that because Foxconn didn’t treat them well, they didn’t treat the PS4 well. He/she says “The ps4 console we assemble can be turned on at best" does that mean the user had a vendetta against sony and not foxxconn.

HelpfulGamer3810d ago

That's no big problem, My japanese PS4 release date is February 24 2014! We have to wait the longest! XD

TomShoe3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

@Helpful At least your PS4s will be solid and free of bugs.

@Mike They messed up the PS4s because they had an issue against Foxconn not Sony. Sony's just getting the brunt of the retaliation.

I swear, if they mess up my PS4, I'm going to go to Foxconn and build a new PS4 myself. Still, they need to treat their employees better. You do not want to be viewed as a slave employer to other businesses.

PoSTedUP3810d ago

i said this... the ps4's that the chinese students worked on Are having problems, i wouldnt have guessed Sabotage tho! that sucks (mostly for them) but also for the bricked ps4's owners. good boy, warrantee. bad, slave labor, bad.

gamesR4fun3810d ago

this bites

but maybe it will wake up people to the real price of corporate greed

fact is they only save a few dollars per unit by rapping the poor for cheep labor

Palaven3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

If this is true then I guess the article from a few months ago about forced labor that Sony fans downplayed is a major issue after all. Seems more like someone trying to deflect the blame away from Sony though.

OrangePowerz3810d ago

@Palaven

What has been dismissed? We all know that Foxxcom has crappy working conditions, but every other company uses them as well including MS. every single major electronic device is made by Foxcomm.

4Sh0w3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

hmmm couldn't read it as its all in Chinese.

Really if that's the case why just ps4? Why haven't they sabotaged every other consumer electronics device made at FoxConn. Laptops, pc's, monitors, tvs, cell phones, consoles, etc, etc all should have a high failure rate then or this is just BS by some obscure site looking to pass the blame. Its not like however Foxconn treats them it just started with ps4 manufacturing. Sure it could very well be a Foxconn defective issue but not because of sabotage which makes little sense under the circustances because all electronics products have a Quality Control(QC) process, so this would indicate that didn't happen on a massive scale. Seems some are looking for a scapegoat. I'd think it'd be better to wait to hear from sony before starting conspiracy theories.

PoSTedUP3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

@4show: (IF this is true) a rapid spike in demand for the ps4 in such a short peroid of time (record breaking demand, at that) would be the reason. they would have been pushed harder than they ever have and more than likely would rebel all of a sudden, in this case. that would be the distinction with "why just with the ps4?" imo. what you also said could be possible, right now it is all just a conspiracy. they dont test all of the consoles that go out, and we dont know how many were manufactured by foxconn, sony gets manufacturing from a bunch of different locations. that would be crazy if true tho. hopefully sony has a response.

MorePowerOfGreen3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

I can't believe somebody would plant such nonsense. Blame it workers sabotage LMAO

Sony had no Quality control they just left the console to workers and never tested them :/

The PS4 spec upgrade due to Sony tying to one up MSFT's leaked XB1 specs and the copying of XB1 functionality is the cause.

MarkusMcNugen3810d ago

I just hope this isnt true. I cant say I blame the workers if true for trying to retaliate in some way, or someone trying to stick up for these people working in deplorable conditions; but if true this is not the way to do it.

If there are any issues with any of the consoles I hope they get resolved sooner than later. Both the Xbox One and PS4 will be awesome pieces of technology.

Sathur3810d ago

I made a comment yesterday on this very subject. By the time the PS4 is released in Japan, most if not all the bugs will be ironed out. That is a big case for those who decide to wait until next year.

Gekko363810d ago

@TomShoe WOA be careful man. China maybe socialist state but to suggest slavery is liable.

Watch yourself man you could get yourself into trouble.

As for assembly line tampering, the odds of deliberate sabotage suggests QA didn't pick any of them up.

This sounds more like a spin story focussing on anything other than the production design and QA at Foxconn or an issue with Sony using manufacture.

If that's the case MS may have the same issue unless they had more input with foxconn on production methodology

forcefullpower3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

Also people think that a couple of interns broke loads of ps4's lol. They know who puts together which batch's of machines together. They also test machine from each worker over a period of time. Interns would NOT magically be able to continually break machines they build.

Have any of you even seen a production line someone would not be able to break dozens of machines without the next worker seeing the problem.

ChrisW3810d ago

@Gekko36,

I highly doubt that Foxconn is going to go after TomShoe simply because he mentioned "slave" in his comment.

But if you want to be politically correct about the conditions at Foxconn, it's called "Forced Labor."

Consoldtobots3810d ago

Lol rgardless of where n4G is located if you are in america you are free to speak your mind and foxconn can go pound sand

Ares84HU3810d ago

So the question is, how do we find out if we got one made there??

Also, a major lawsuit is in the future because this will hurt Sony's reputation. Guess that is the last time they used foxxcom.

Dehnus3810d ago

@TomShoe
Aww cute, you'll be going to FoxCon and build your PS4 yourself.
Adorable!
*So you'll be making 12 hour days.
*Being beaten if you don't work hard enough.
*Having to pay for your sleeping place.
*Not allowed to leave the compound.
*Suicide nets around you to prevent you from taking the "easy way out".
*And are not allowed to form a union on the punishment of jailtime for a LOOOONG time.

The list goes on and on..
Man you would not last a week ;). Neither would I ;).

AliTheSnake13809d ago

Let's go to war with china !

Dee_913809d ago

Well luckily we have warranties, but this sucks for Sony if true even though Foxconn only made a fraction of the PS4's.But again if this is true and if this news gets big enough I don't see many companies working with Foxconn for a long time.Really sucks that these interns were forced to work there though.. just a really crappy situation... if it is true of course.

tawak3809d ago

@hakeem0996
"KARMA'S A BITCH"
but your my bitch,shut up and bend over

SaturdayNightBeaver3809d ago

but you will get a console that is fully working and ready to be used. thats a difference worth a wait for sure..

XisThatKid3809d ago

Yup U.S. has a higher tolerance for defective hardware as a mass not facts just my opinion.

badz1493809d ago

@MorePowerofGreen

"Sony had no Quality control they just left the console to workers and never tested them :/"

Talk like a real unknowledgeable person. You think ANY company in the world get their stuff from factories and then open them and test every single unit? QC should have been done BEFORE the thing gets inside the box and the next time the box is opened is by the customers themselves!

Test for every single unit is only practical if you only make 1000 units available a month. The PS4 has sold 1000000 units in 24H! Good luck doing unit-by-unit test for THAT! That is why we have this thing called manufacturer's warranty!

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christheredhead3810d ago

Probably not. Foxconn is a MASSIVE manufacturing company with employess across hundreds of divisions. They have a pretty solid history of poor working conditions, so it's not beyond the realm of possibilty that this sort of thing happens.

Just throw out any random company that uses manufactured goods and they most likely use Foxconn. I see thousands of boxes from them at my job and I work in a voice and networking department. I doubt it has anything to do with Sony as a specific target of retaliation.

PoSTedUP3810d ago

i could see them doing it specifically for the ps4. considering the rapidly inclining demand in such a short ammount of time; i wouldnt doubt they were worked to death more than usual and decided to rebel. the ps4's demand shattered records, and spirits... apparently. (if this is true)

Shake_Zula3810d ago

Either way, I think Foxconn just lost a contract. Hopefully we see another company take the rise from this situation, because any way you slice it, the problem belongs to Foxconn's leadership for treating their employees like crap.

Mike134nl3810d ago

Would assume any decent manufacturing line has some quality controll allong the line of the production and assembly of the product.

Reefskye3810d ago

How would any other company be any better? Companies like Foxconn are used because they are in countries with very cheap labour.. Make a PS4 in any western country and the thing will cost 4x as much as it does manufactured in China, Foxconn employees already get paid 3x as much as any other hardware manufacture in china since the disgust with Foxconn has be going on for years.. changing manufacture wont make a single difference.

The problem is money

warczar3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

@Reefskye

It's called child labor, and prison labor, and forced labor, and the problem is greed not money.

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zeal0us3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

The intern's vendetta(if this turns out true) more than likely is against Foxconn possibly due over-working or poor work treatment. Almost every year we hear a complaint about Foxconn. Either its workers committing suicide, over-working employees or poor work environment. With both Sony and Microsoft releasing their consoles in multiple countries, no telling how much(and long) the foxconn employees are working just to assemble them.

Rhaigun3809d ago

It's not true. All launch PS4's were manufactured at this plant. Mine works just fine.

Mikelarry3810d ago

its guaranteed i am getting and extended warranty on mine. one would think foxconn would have improved staff relations after the iPhone fiasco and now this.

DeadMansHand3810d ago

Exactly. I paid 39.99 for a replacement plan at GameStop. If my ps4 goes TU then I bring it in and swap it out for a new one.

yeahokchief3809d ago

I wouldnt recommend an extended warranty.

Some warranties only cover 1 replacement so say you replace it in the first year or so then you just wasted like 80 bucks on a $400 device.

The smartest thing to do is to wait for a 2nd generation with bigger hard drive or improved manufacturing processes.

Rhaigun3809d ago

With the Sony 2-year plan, it covers it for the length of the warranty. So, it is worth it. Besides, even if you only replace it once, you're ahead the price of a second console. Your math is flawed.

Akuma2K3809d ago

I got the 2 year warranty so I don't have to worry about any problems.

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PSjesus3810d ago

According to whom?any one knows Chinese are professionals,i want Sony to sue Polygon and their shi*ty journalism,also foxxcon made every thing from ios devices to all gaming consoles

Tapewurm3810d ago

How can you tell where your unit was manufactured? Mine is running great still..... hoping this is just rumor.

BallsEye3810d ago

Damn...sony fanboys are the funniest. First sayin ps4 and sony is perfect, it's best hardware company bla bla bla, it has best games etc. Now that games has been pushed back "it's ok! Greatness awaits!" , sony drm policies revealed (been ditched by sony when they saw community response about ms policies) "it's ok sony loves gamers!". Now there is around 50% failure rate with ps4, amazon flooded with complaints and 1 star rating, official sony forums with hundreds of pages about broken ps4's , wobbling issues, cheap plastic on controllers that get chipped off, etc etc and fanboys now make up a sabotage theory! What the hell is wrong with you people??

frostypants3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

Dude...get a life. Microsoft isn't gonna pay you for fellating them.

JessiePinkmanYo3810d ago

Ballseye, it's ok...next week we'll see how "smooth" the X1 release goes. "50% negative reviews on Amazon", people don't go online to write good reviews, they go online to bitch. Of all the hundreds of bad reviews, think of the many more too busy to write a review because they're too busy enjoying their PS4 to be bothered, myself included.
Before you label me as a Sony fanboy, I'll see you in line at midnight on the 22nd picking up my X1. I just think it's stupid to wish or make fun of any failures of ANY console/handheld release. One last-Foxconn makes the Xbox too, and I doubt a poor Chinese factory gives one shit about which console he sabatoges

AgitatedOcelot3809d ago

I know what you mean. This whole console launch has been exhausting. I don't know if I can make it through the Xbox launch next week.

It's information overload with all this crap already.

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whoyouwit043810d ago

I think this is just some sony fan boy posting this to but the blame for faulty consoles on someone other then the company responsible which is sony.

Mikelarry3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

you do know ms uses foxxconn as well

http://playstationeu.i.lith...

@ below

how does banning a user getting a console early fix the issue of a possible sabotage at the manufacturing plant?????

shaenoide3810d ago

Yep but MS wa smart enough to ban early users :)

M-M3810d ago

@shaenoide,

I can't believe you just used that as a defense lol.

Kryptix3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

lol Sony designed the layout and chose the pieces, Foxconn puts the pieces together. If it's a software problem that causes the bricks, fine, that's Sony but if the system won't start or display anything because of defected/faulty hardware or bad placement then that's on the manufacturer.

jcnba283810d ago

Anybody's fault but sony's right? So by your logic then the 360's RROD would also be Foxconn's fault since they were assembled there too?

Nujabes_3810d ago

You fanboys shift your opinions like crazy. So it's official then: RROD wasn't Microsoft's fault, it was Foxconn's.

Kryptix3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

PS3 was also manufactured by Foxconn but didn't have a high failure rate like Xbox 360.

http://www.dailytech.com/So...

It wasn't Foxconn but the GPU during that RROD fiasco.

http://www.eetimes.com/docu...

"The Xbox 360 recall a year ago happened because "Microsoft wanted to avoid an ASIC vendor," said Lewis. Microsoft designed the graphic chip on its own, cut a traditional ASIC vendor out of the process and went straight to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd., he explained."

Notice the part where it says, "Microsoft designed the graphic chip on it's own."

The graphics chip on the 360 produced a lot of heat which melted the soldering and caused the RROD. Why do you think Xbox 360s always had different chips like the Athlon chip and the Jasper chip.

Try not to bring back old issues without researching first. ;)

PS4 failure rate is the same as the PS3's Yellow Light of Death, wasn't the design, just the way it was pieced together.

Enemy3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

It's like every Xbox kiddy this generation redefines delusion on a daily basis.

"U THINK YOUR DELUSION IS COOL BRO WATCH MINE"

(inserts new dumbest comment of all time)

They don't realize normal human beings are reading their posts.

Nujabes_3810d ago

Oh the irony. You mock people for writing dumb comments then you immediately proceed to write a dumb comment. Gold.

speedforce1313810d ago

this is so true I can't even begin to comment

JasonKCK3810d ago

There isn't enough info available to know where the fault is.

sinjonezp3810d ago

How about we all blame amd. They providing the GPu soc and other parts. They should have went with a higher quality board and took a little bit more loss. But if this true, look out for major back lash.

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Deltaohio3810d ago

Lol don't intend on getting a PS4 at all but I have to say I called it. If this is true it really wasn't hard to see.

Deltaohio3810d ago

It just seemed likely that would be the cause. Have you not heard the news about Foxconn? When you mistreat your workers things like this tend to happen.
And yes I called it lol
And I honestly do see why there are so many dislikes. This shit ain't rocket science.

FlameHawk3810d ago

Sigh, I happened to have gotten one of the messed up PS4's, didn't even get to see the boot up, nothing but blank screen. Never been disappointed so much, now I gotta wait 2 weeks or something to get and the wait is going to kill me -.-

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specialguest3810d ago

Whenever I see foxconn mentioned, I immediately think of Metal Gears.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow19h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos7h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos5h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje4h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon5h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola2h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola2h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum1h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad4h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola2h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos2h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai4h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK3h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh3h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville4m ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.