Sean Halliday of Pixel Gate writes:
''If there’s one thing that E3 shows us each year (or any new generation for that matter), it’s how competitive people get. I’m not talking about companies or industry figures, but the consumers themselves. There’s an odd feeling of tribal warfare that sprouts up after each and every E3. ”Sony won the battle, Microsoft will win the war!” has been something frequently shouted out across the internet in the aftermath of E3. But the last time I checked, this was not a war. I don’t recall anyone from either company commanding their consumers to attack the rival company’s fans. Remember that moment Jack Tretton mounted the PS4 and raised his longsword screaming ” DEATH TO HOUSE MICROSOFT! AMASS MY FELLOW SON’S OF SONY”? No, me neither.''
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Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.
Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.
Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.
When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.
The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.
If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.
We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.
Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland
Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years
@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.
I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.
Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.
I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)
By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030
The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…
They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times
Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.
There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.
Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.
Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.
"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.
Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?
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C'mon now. What timeline are you from?
Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?
Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.
YES!
Because the Fanboys/Fangirls on N4G keep the lights on at several web-sites that supply Gaming news.
Without the Fanboys/fangirls N4G would fade into Oblivion or just loose a TON of ad revenue and close down.
So to keep "OUR" favorite site going strong.......
XB1 = Teh Cloudz and Lame Esram
PS4 = Teh Exclusives that no one buys and Red Line of Death Awaits!
PC = NO Games and No Couch Gaming
WiiU = WTF is a WiiU
So enjoy your games on your system of choice and don't forget to ridicule the other guy for being different because being different is against the law in some sci-fi Utopian world that WE do NOT live in.
/sarc
Remeber when it was okay to bash Sony for the past 7 to 8 years? What happened now? Oh yeah, new targets...
Totally agree - I personally prefer gaming on Playstation and PC, and with War Thunder out on PS4 at launch (in Australia) the PS4 is easily my preferred choice of next-gen console, but I very much hope all the gamers who get into the XB1 have an awesome time as well, as do the Wii U peeps and the PS3/360 peeps who won't upgrade for a year or two, and even those PC elitist types :).
I chose the side of Xbox. It doesn't stop me from wanting to own a PS and play their exclusives. When you let your bias for a company get in the way of enjoying games then it's a problem.
I absolutely love gaming, and unfortunately MS tried to utterly ruin it with their DRM. Maybe if MS changed their policies when literally the whole internet was full of hate for them, I could maybe forgive them in the future, but that didn't happen.
They only changed their policies when the pre-order stats came in and they realised they couldn't get away with it.
And because I love gaming and want the industry to flourish, instead of being turned into a police state where the publishers would dictate whatever policies and set whatever prices they want, I'm branded a Sony fanboy.
So yes, for me sides to need to be chosen.
Unfortunately that means initially I might miss out of some games, but I can always buy a second hand xbone in the future.