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Sony’s Executives were Cheering and High-Fiving As Microsoft Announced the Price of the Xbox One

SCE Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida shared a colorful piece of information about the competition between Sony and Microsoft, talking about how the Sony camp reacted to the announcement of the price of the Xbox One at E3

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user74029313805d ago

i would have kicked in the door with beer and pizza

PixelNinja3805d ago

I'm surprised no one has made a gif of that with Kaz's face pasted on it lol.

cleft53805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

Not surprising, the pricing of the Xbox One is probably Microsoft biggest misstep they have made outside of the drm. Arguably even more of a misstep because this plays directly against them with the mass market who looks at price above all else.

A $500 product is going to be a hard sale no matter what, but it becomes a much harder sale when your direct competitor is a $100 cheaper and saying things like they have the most powerful console.

Irishguy953805d ago

Yeah the 200 extra on the Ps3 really damaged it...

johndoe112113805d ago

@Irishguy95

The level of desperation in your post is mind numbing.

come_bom3805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

I'm still surprised that Microsoft gave Sony the price point advantage in this generation of consoles (PS4/X1), specially after what we all saw what happened with the PS3 and it's high price in the past generation. For me, it's a terrible decision by Microsoft.

The forced inclusion of Kinect on ALL X1's might cost them dearly. It's quite a gamble.

gaffyh3805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

They will make their money back by overlaying ads on your TV, and using the Kinect to make sure you actually saw the ad. Then they can make ad companies pay them more. It was so obvious they wanted to do this since the announcement, which is why they were so adamant on trying to force Kinect on everyone. Problem is, people probably won't buy the console after the first rush of sales, and they will hope that TitanFall sells some, but if it doesn't, then they will definitely do a Kinectless bundle.

Omegasyde3805d ago

The kinnect camera is rumored to scan products in living rooms looking for brand logos ie a can of soda with pepsi logo. Pretty sure that data can be very profitable along with promotions with barcodes.

I FORSEE Doritos teaming up with MS for exclusive in game item promotions. Buy a bag of chips, scan product barcode, get Dlc.

Its actually a good marketing tool.

Mystogan3805d ago

I'm not sure why, its only a $100 cheaper and that's only because Xbox one includes Kinect. Consumers are going to see that there's a good reason that its more expensive.

I'm going to laugh when Xbox One outsells the PS4 even with the higher price. Do not underestimate the power of Microsoft's marketing money.

they're cheering way too early if you ask me.

Persistantthug3805d ago

I wasn't really surprised by the $500 XBOX One price and $100 price differential because I've been on alert to Microsoft Corp exec's XBOX brand aversion for years.

The reason for XBONE's higher price is because XBOX GAMES cannot afford to take the loss because Microsoft Corp will not allow it. Long story short.....if the XBONE takes on anymore financial losses, Microsoft Corp will jettison Microsoft GAMES along with the XBOX brand.

What I was surprised about, was the PS4 being as much as 50% more powerful than the XBONE (40% now). I wasn't expecting the GPU gap to be that much.

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xReDeMpTiOnx3805d ago

I would of celebrated with a beer and nicely packed bowl well that's how I'm celebrating tonight anyways.

Game on gamers see u on the battlefield tonight

MatrixxGT3805d ago

Just minus the beer and im set. Play on man.

_FantasmA_3805d ago

Yes a nicely packed bowl of Capn Crunch with some almond milk. Good stuff.

3 p I c3805d ago

Holy shit this article has been made 47 times already.

PSnation43805d ago

whats so crazy is u read and commented on this same article 47 times already

etownone3805d ago

Not surprising....

Being $100 cheaper will definitely be a huge factor.

Ms.... I'm getting an Xbox One. But they are being greedy.
And still greedy. Reg 360 should be dirt cheap by now.

And xbox one just be priced competitively at $400.

Boody-Bandit3805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

That's why I'm not getting an X1. They're are too greedy! MS could've easily had their new console backwards compatible with peripherals if they wanted but NO time for more license agreements and certifications. While partnering with 3rd party companies to bring out all new peripherals. <- That was the final straw for me.

After spending nearly 1200 on a wheel combo set to play Forza 4 and over a 1k+ on lesser wheels? I wasn't about to take it up the poop shoot again by them. If people knew the story behind MS and their fees they would know why some Forza fans such as myself have washed their hands of them this go around.

They simply are excessively greedy.

Yeah all companies are in it for money but MS takes it way too far on trying to milk you for every last cent.

creatchee3805d ago

I don't think it is greed so much as it is Kinect costing so damned much. Say what you will about it, but it's not a cheap peripheral.

Boody-Bandit3805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

Huh?
Where do you get a correlation to Kinect from what I posted?

I'm talking about MS turning their backs on Logitech and Thrustmaster when the 360 first launched. Both were going to make wheels for them but MS wanted to produce their own wheel. By the time MS changed their minds both companies weren't interested any more. At least not higher end versions of their products.

So Fanatec stepped to the plate and starting making wheels that were 360 compatible. They let it be known it wasn't cheap and what a PITA it was to go thru certification with MS. Fanatec just released an Official Forza 4 Wheel when the game launched. Now MS has turned their back on Fanatec and having Thrustmaster make a wheel for the X1.

That's a pretty sh*tty way to treat Fanatec and Forza fans that own those wheels. They aren't cheap.

Yet it appears most wheels will work with the PS4 as will a lot of gaming headphones and other various perps. Sony leaves their hardware open ended where MS wants paid for every perp connected to their hardware. They are too damn greedy.

LordMaim3805d ago

@creatchee: Its not a cheap peripheral, and no one wanted it. I'd rather have $100 in the pocket and no Kinect.

creatchee3805d ago

@above

Sorry, I clicked on the wrong reply - should have been to etownone. I get lost on N4G mobile lol

etownone3805d ago

@ creatchee

I agree....

But it's the same scenario as the ps3 with blu ray included.
It drove the price up.... And the 360 had the price advantage.

Kinect is not needed. They already stated that
So why force it to everyone?

BootyBandit3805d ago (Edited 3805d ago )

"up the poop shoot"

That gave me a Beavis and Butthead flashback. lol

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Shuhei Yoshida chats with FINAL FANTASY XVI Producer Naoki Yoshida.

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PS5 Exec Doesn't Want To See Gaming's Future Dominated By Live-Service Games: "Boring"

PlayStation boss Shuehei Yoshida wants the gaming industry to continue to chase its creative dreams.

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Obscure_Observer352d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole352d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90352d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit352d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils352d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie352d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj352d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde351d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor351d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138351d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_351d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881349d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit352d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992352d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64352d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992352d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot352d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992351d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz351d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot352d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64352d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot352d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz351d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades352d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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The face of PlayStation: Shuhei Yoshida on the joy and future of video games

He’s been at PlayStation since the beginning, and seen the games industry transform beyond recognition. He talks unlikely successes, AI, and gaming’s future.

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Workshyskiver357d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope357d ago (Edited 357d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje357d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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