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The Xbox One and PS4 share similar specs, but the devil’s in the details

Ars Technica compare and contrast the next-gen consoles' innards just in time for launch.

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LoTuZ3816d ago

The devil is always in the details.

Eonjay3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

Agreed:

"...the PS4's beefier GPU will give it the performance edge in the long term, but this console war is one that will be fought primarily with software and services, not with silicon."

JokesOnYou3816d ago

Good Read:

"In any case, we certainly aren't looking at the kind of difference in graphical quality you see in some cross-platform games from earlier in the PS3 and Xbox 360 generation, where graphical details could differ significantly between platforms. As we've mentioned, these two consoles are largely capable of rendering the exact same scene in the exact same way. Even though the Xbox One has a slightly faster CPU, the PS4 has a larger GPU. And both consoles take different approaches to delivering developers similar amounts of memory and memory bandwidth."

"One thing is clear: the era of the console wars that focused entirely on raw specifications is already on the wane following the PS3 and Xbox 360 generation. You have to dig pretty deep and have strong moral objections to resolution scaling to find significant arguments about console specs in this day and age (unless you're arguing about the Wii U, of course)."

"Microsoft and Sony will bend over backwards to tell you how different one console (their console) is from the competition, but in the end the boxes are very, very similar, even if they're not identical. If early games are any indication, the PS4's beefier GPU will give it the performance edge in the long term, but this console war is one that will be fought primarily with software and services, not with silicon."

LoydX-mas3816d ago

Jokes,

Your post shows the blatant fanboys here since all you did was post a direct quote........but still got disagrees?!?!?! :)

Sono4213815d ago

i'll amdit I disagreed with jokes without even reading... why? Because I know he's ignorant and no matter what the news is he will somehow try to spin it. If it's Xbox negative.. he will spin it into something Xbox Posotive or if it's PS4 positive he will try to spin it into PS4 Negative even though the facts are always contrary to what he is saying.. so yes.. now I just disagree as soon as I see a post from him.

GrandTheftZamboni3815d ago

"...Battlefield is running at 1280×720 on the Xbox One but 1600×900 resolution on the PS4. Both versions are running at 60 frames per second and look mostly similar from a normal viewing distance..."

Now 57% more pixels is "mostly similar", but last gen some minor pixelation on PS3 Bioshock was a huge difference???

Gaming media is nothing more than a marketing tool for the highest bidder, pretending to be unbiased. They crossed the line of being relevant, except for dumb consumers who think they are making a wise choice following reviewers' advice.

n4rc3815d ago

Ars usually has good reads.

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pharmd3816d ago

LoTuZ, thats exactly what I came in to say. +1

AngelicIceDiamond3816d ago

"There are differences between the way the Xbox One renders something and the way the PS4 renders it, but the gap is much narrower than in previous generations."

Can't argue with that.

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KimoNoir3816d ago

1280x720 vs 1600x900 and 1920x1080 is a larger gap in performance capability.

But unfortunately for most, you havent experienced this type of gaming unless you have a capable Gaming machine (pc).

Once you experience this generation in higher resolutions, youll cry once you go from 1920x1080 to 1280x720.

denawayne3815d ago

Cyco-you do realize the X1 is being upscaled, right?

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C-Thunder3816d ago

Wonder how long after these are out before these sites drop the niceties and start calling it strait?

RandomDude6553816d ago

Never dat Microsoft money will keep them dishonest.

first1NFANTRY3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

Especially in Muricaaaa. The patriotism of some of these sites is frightening.

stuna13816d ago

You can bet it'll be real quick! Probably somewhere around Christmas.

nmeyers3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

After the consoles come out, I am done looking at news/rumor/crap sites :D It is just keeping me busy for now.

Edit: I realized most of this is not news....

lonz3583816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

A tech site downplaying the hardware and saying it's more about the software and services lol

Edit:

http://i.imgur.com/sNgltsP....

"The short version of that story is that the newest Battlefield is running at 1280×720 on the Xbox One but 1600×900 resolution on the PS4. Both versions are running at 60 frames per second and look mostly similar from a normal viewing distance of eight-to-10 feet"

C-Thunder3816d ago

Lol, yeah. My couch is about that far from my tv and I can sure tell a difference in resolutions. When I play games though, I usually sit about four to five feet away. Probably not good for my eyes, just the way I've played since I was a child, setting in front of the tv. Looks like my xbox will only be for exclusives this gen.

H0RSE3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

I'm sure many people can tell the difference between 1080p and 720p, but that isn't really the case here. The case here is 1080p native vs 1080p unscaled - now the gap is closed substantially. I'm not saying people still can't see the difference, I'm saying that at this point, it's largely negligible.

Resolution likely won't be the differences people see, it will be the details, like draw distance and AA. One version very well may/will look better than the other, but there won't be a clear winner, and instead each version will be trading blows with one another. It's to the point where anyone claiming that one version looks substantially better than the other, should be taken with a grain of salt.

KingTrash3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

It'd true though! We know the PS4 is more powerful but if you look at uncompressed 1080p video of both the X1 and PS4 versions of BF4, you can not see any difference! I actually think the X1 version looks a bit better at points but I guess we'll see. That being said, if you weren't comparing them and looking as hard as possible, you'd never know the difference. It will come down to exclusives and services. I'll end up with both just like this gen. I'll have the xbox for the multiplatforms and the PS4 for the must have exclusives. I will definitely be playing anything Naughty Dog makes.

n4rc3815d ago

Nobody plays games side by side and frame by frame... No users will actually notice much difference, if any..

Ju3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

I don't recall those sites did all this evaluation, stats and diagrams to justify that 720p are still the better choice when 1080p TVs became the norm. Weird how that goes. Now it seems everybody goes out of their way to proof it doesn't matter. Gonna sell icebergs to the Eskimos I guess.

And above. You serious? You're getting both and deliberately playing the gimped versions on the One - you know the games cost the same, right? I mean, I get it. If you are a fan of the Xbox and you have it, don't bother. It's good enough. But if you both???

yewles13816d ago

"Microsoft and Sony will bend over backwards to tell you how different one console (their console) is from the competition, but in the end the boxes are very, very similar, even if they're not identical. 'If early games are any indication, the PS4's beefier GPU will give it the performance edge in the long term, but this console war is one that will be fought primarily with software and services, not with silicon'."

YOU'RE A 'TECH' SITE!!!

Godmars2903816d ago

Who gets ad money from MS.

There's also the chance that the XB1 might go against established habit and see some honest, good and diverse 1st party support which explores and exploits the hardware.

RandomDude6553816d ago

"diverse 1st party support"

lol lol lol

H0RSE3816d ago

The fact that they are a tech site is irrelevant. They can still speak their mind, even if it doesn't coincide with their forte. Just because they are tech-based, doesn't mean that they have to believe that tech/hardware is going to be the key factors in the "console war."

Franky, I believe they are right - the brunt of the war will be fought with software and services, "software" as in "games," and "services" as is well, the multitude of apps each console is offering. Despite PS4 being more powerful, if you remove things like PS+ and their renowned exclusives, what are you left with?

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow110h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos8h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos6h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje6h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon6h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum9h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum5h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola4h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola3h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum3h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad6h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola4h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos3h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai5h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK5h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh5h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville1h ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.