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Microsoft engineer confirms that the Xbox One will be able to drive the PlayStation 4 just fine

PA - "So the question my son had about the Xbox One, and I thought it was pretty goofy at the time, was whether you’d be able to hook up the PlayStation 4 to the Xbox One to play Killzone while taking advantage of the other features that come with the Xbox One."

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Snookies123818d ago

Lawl... That's pretty hilarious, and kind of awesome in a way.

kneon3818d ago

Sure it will work, by why would you want to? It's just going to introduce extra lag.

theWB273818d ago

The article states no lag that the eye can detect. He states he and his son play the 360 through the X1 all the time.

Article titles only tell so much. Click to read more...it won't hurt.

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KwietStorm_BLM3818d ago

I guess you would know best, since you clearly did engineering on the project, and you obviously, OBVIOUSLY read the article.

kneon3818d ago

There will always be extra lag when passing through another device, how much depends on the device. But still what's the point?

theWB273818d ago

The point? Some people don't have flat screens with enough HDMI ports. If they happen to get both systems and have a cable box, but their tv only has two ports. Wow, look at that..you can plug the cable box into the X1 and have the PS4 use the last port.

Boom...3 HDMI devices hooked into a 2 HDMI tv. Simple stuff really...

Scatpants3818d ago

You could get xbox live notification while playing PS4 you could also switch back and forth from PS4 to xbox one with voice commands. I will probably do this when my Xbone comes in the mail. If the lag isn't noticable why wouldn't you? I'm only debating weather to hook my HTPC or my PS4 to it.

BISHOP-BRASIL3818d ago

@WB

Or you can use a 5 bucks HDMI switch and have no added lag at all (visible or not)... Just saying.

FriedGoat3818d ago

@WB
I hate it when people try to tell me I can't see lag, maybe it's my history of fast paced twitch shooters such as quake, but I can tell the difference from 10ms to 20ms. If I can get it lower by directly connecting it to a TV, that's what I'll do. Why be at a disadvantage by stupidly putting it through a pointless device?

Prime1573818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

I know you're taking a lot of heat for this comment because apparently an MS employee (which would most likely lose his job if he didn't imply otherwise) said this.

I, just, am skeptical. I'm not saying that I'm completely doubtful, but I would like to actually feel it in action. As someone who was really competitive in FPS games (like CS1.6 and stuff, I've learned that even 1-5ms, yes 1ms, can really throw off your game.

Think about it, if you and your opponent both have a 15ms reaction time, but your rig has a 1-2ms delay more than his/her's... you're going to die more often than not.

rainslacker3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

OK, but didn't a while back when one PR guy was asked if you could hook up a PS4(or was it a 360) to the system said you could, but it would possibly have some lag due to the nature of HDMI passthrough?

Edit:
Yep, indeed. Penello said this in September.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech...

UltimateMaster3818d ago

"Once the dust settles, we'll show how you can have 1080p games on the Xbox One."

And that is by plugging your PS4's HDMI to the input of your Xbox One and there you go, 1080p games for the Xbox One.

devwan3818d ago

“It is an extremely small lag that the human eye will not be able to perceive,”

Would that be the same kind of "imperceptible" lag that Kinect introduces?

http://abload.de/img/kinect...

Yeah, no thanks.

Gamingcapacity3818d ago

I don't like the idea of paying for the electric to run 2 consoles just to get an extra HDMI port.

Actually not sure I can afford 2 console lol.

Funantic13818d ago

Probably less lag than the vita remote play

pixelsword3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

"It’s fun to make someone from Microsoft squirm a bit by asking these questions. So I can play games using a competitor’s console while using all these neat Xbox One features? “Um, you could...”"

Great! Now I just need a reason to want to switch from the PS4 to the Xbox One.

Just kidding. :)

Has anyone noticed that there seems to be some underpinnings, I am almost willing to go as far to say almost subliminal, effort to make people think that Killzone: Shadow Fall is on the Xbox One? This article is worded like some things I've read, seen, and actually heard over the months...

I mean, just look at the way the first paragraph is worded, and look at that pic they use.

then what about that MS ad?

http://www.sonyrumors.net/2...

There's something to all of that.

...curious.

Blackdeath_6633818d ago

its pretty amazing for people who are buying both you get best of both worlds

justSumDood3818d ago

"...Xbox One will be able to drive the Playstation 4..."

Awesome! Can i have it dropped off at my house sometime before launch?

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snipab8t3818d ago

This is awesome, I would totally do this if I could afford to buy both consoles.

Blaze9293818d ago

this is actually pretty useful. I'll be getting both PS4 and XB1 but holding on to my PS3 and 360 as well. I don't think I have enough HDMI ports

Jaqen_Hghar3818d ago

"it can have a PS4 plugged in to it!"

MS's first bullet on the store ads

solid_snake36563818d ago

Why would anyone run the ps4 through such inferior device

mrpsychoticstalker3817d ago

Loooooool

Entertainment:  Much to the chagrin of gamers everywhere, Microsoft chose to focus on TV and entertainment options in its Xbox One reveal rather than games. But by now, we know that the system has games and, exclusives aside, they’re a lot of the same games the PS4 has. A wealth of entertainment options, complete with Kinect controls, represent a valuable expansion to the capabilities that Microsoft slowly added to the Xbox 360 over the course of the previous generation. Microsoft’s partnerships with the likes of Time Warner Cable, Verizon Fios, Comcast Xfinity and the NFL make this a very attractive option to gamers with cable. Plus, a Halo series produced by Spielberg is hard to argue with.
Add in MP3 support, DLNA streaming and audio CDs, and Xbox One can handily serve as an entertainment hub for the whole living room. I play games as much as anyone, but I still use my console for a whole lot of other things. It’s worth making those things a priority as well.

joe903817d ago

Every Sony exclusive playable on Xbox. lol

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-Foxtrot3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

"What do you play on the PS4 the most"

"Oh I can't decide...Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Assassins Creed 4, Battlefield 4, a load of indie games"

"What about your Xbox"

".............Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Assassins Creed 4, Battlefield 4, a load of indie games"

lol

KwietStorm_BLM3818d ago

The whole thing is a meme in the oven.

-Foxtrot3818d ago

Yo I heard you like your consoles, so we put a PS4 in your Xbox One so you can play on a PS4 while your on your Xbox One

....something like that

GuruMeditation3818d ago

@-Foxtrot like it, but to fit the meme its gotta be "Yo Dawg, I heard you like games? So I put a game in your game so you can game while you game. In 1080p."

mistertwoturbo3818d ago

This is all in good fun, but seriously nobody's going to buy a $500 hdmi port. Lol

Edward753818d ago

True fanboy statement. Mistertwoturbo.

So much hate from both sides, your comment says it all.

"Oh no, the 500 dollars is only an HDMI port!!"

Think about the only reason you would say that... One that makes sense. And reply.

Both systems will do well, and it will be nice to have both running. Not just as an hdmi port, but running through, and possibly split screen. Even possibly being able to switch from an mmo. I'll be playing on PS4 (ff14) to a game like dead rising, then pause and go back to 14 when the duty finder notifies me.

The best feeling is going to be having both to even try this, to see if it is viable. Not just putting up statements like yours mistertwoturbo.

mistertwoturbo3818d ago

^The only real fanboy is you for not being able to take a joke.

Edward753818d ago

Well I guess, I always say , "but seriously" before my jokes.

That was sarcastic.

UNKLE3818d ago

PS4:lots of multiplatform game and 2-3 exclusive? no thx...PC better

Jaqen_Hghar3818d ago

20 exclusives from first party in the first year actually (ie not even counting The Order or the Indies or Deep Down since those aren't first party studios) 12 of which are new IP

Major_Glitch3817d ago

PC better? Lol. Yeah...no. I like gaming on my big screen while sitting on my couch.

GribbleGrunger3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

That's amusing and quite clever. Bubble.

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JediDiah3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

"I want the Best of Both worlds"....Van Halen!

Godmars2903818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

Xbox One: the $500 game console dongle.

Edit:
Yeah, bit surprising they don't mention the WiiU. Just for the heck of it.

nerdeu3818d ago

I just invented a new name:

XBOX ONE ... MORE CHANGE

AceofStaves3818d ago

Great news for people who are going to own both consoles.

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Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow112h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos10h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos8h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje8h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia25m ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher19m ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon8h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum11h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola5h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum5h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia33m ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing6912m ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad7h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola5h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher18m ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai7h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher17m ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK7h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher17m ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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