CoD: Ghosts on Xbox One Has Frame Rate Issues And Is The Main Reason Not To Buy says Ex IGN Editor

Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts suffers from nasty frame rate issue, according to Jeremy Conrad.

Conrad further went on to add that FPS drops from 60 to 50 FPS and is reason to not buy it (PS the 720p game has worse drops)

[GarrusVakarian]

If true then shocking considering it already runs at a lower frame rate 1280x720p as opposed to 1920x1080p. How could IW mess up so badly?

@Fluffy

Yeah i heard even the PC version is suffering from framerate drops. Another stellar job on IW's part /s.

[fluffydelusions]

Game is not very optimized on PC compared to previous versions so I'm not very shocked that both PS4/XB1 also suffer from this issue. Random FPS drops for no real reason.

[Eonjay]

My prediction - IW wants to move on from Call of Duty but Activision wont let them. So, they figure if they can botch it up enough, people will stop buying it and they don't have to make it anymore. I kid; but imagine how non-inspired the IW developers must feel.

[cleft5]

So many smoking guns, yet people will ignore them all. Well, hopefully this can just be attributed to it being a launch game for the console.

[ravinash]

Are the people at IW the same people who were there back when the Modern warfare games had come out?

How is it that dispite hardly updating the engine, their having such problems.
I could unstand if hey were trying to push the graphics, but they are not.

[mewhy32]

It's amazing the amount of spin that I'm reading in these comments. Blaming the devs LOL. It's the same ol' argument that the PS3 camp used to use. Wow talk about a flip flop. At 720p the PS4 could run this little game at 120fps.

[Death]

The PC, PS4, and Xbox One allegedly have frame rate drops. From what the former editor states it is from 60 to 50 fps. Is it safe to assume the games goes from running at 60fps steadily down to 50fps? I can't see a 10fps drop being very noticable. Shadowfall isn't locked either. It has a range between 30 to 60fps. Why is this an issue then?

[Deividas]

@mewhy32
This has nothing to do with hardware sunshine, this is a dev issue through and through. I play it on PC with my R9 280X which gets a steady 60fps without a drop on Ultra for Battlefield 4, but I get random drops to like 31-40 fps on COD? This is a dev issue. Its not just a console problem.

[thehitman]

@death framerate drops are very normal especially on pc because the stronger gpus that most people and I stress most, fall in the range that they can hit 60fps on max settings but its not sustainable. When you have frame drops from 60-50 its not a huge deal but it does cause screen tearing. Even being able to play at 80 fps and it drops to 60 or 70 causes tearing. That's why ppl use v sync to cap the fps. More fps is not better if its not stable. Now that people are caring more about fps they are seeing the normal issues with it. Those issues been around forever and nothing new all games that are demanding have them. Unless you have a gpu that gives you minimal performance at that rate it will never be stable. Those gpus cost 300-1k dollars and out price consoles themselves.

[nirwanda]

This is what happens when a dev get forced into releasing.
Activision are going to learn the hard way when cod loses ground to its rivals.
If thet have another weak year it will get everyone talking an may damage the series for most of the next generation.

[Boody-Bandit]

Eonjay
I don't think it's IW wanting to move on from COD since GHOST 2 has already been confirmed. That's 2 years away.

Maybe it's time Activision opens up the purse and invest in a newer engine for their top money making franchise.

[black0o]

I saw this one coming ... and I was called sony fanboy for it, but now it all on the devs LoL

karma is a sweet thing for sure

[Computersaysno]

WORSE framerate dips on Xbox One at 720p than on PS4 at 1080p.

Dear god, it sounds like it needs to be sub HD on Xbox One to run properly.

At least if worse comes to worse they could shave off 10 percent resolution on PS4 and it'll run much smoother and hardly make much difference, if they do that to Xbox One it would be sub HD.

[Autodidactdystopia]

Can confirm PC Version Is VERY stuttery, Am doing a playthrough for shits and giggles for my yt channel, Its not unplayable but the framerate really never leaves 60FPS but it Consistently has "Spikes" like milliseconds long that make the gameplay stuttery as hell.

Also theres a graphical glitch on the water in one of the levels.

The Loading videos cut out sound regularly and it takes you out of the experience completely as it stutters over and over whole seconds.

But one thing I will note about this game. JESUS the texture resolution is VERY HIGH, the shaders aren't that great but the texture resolution itself is up there with the crisis games. Way High.

Can still tell it was designed for consoles though.

Game is something like 40 gigs. There are low res things here but overall they did a nice job on texturing.

No doubt they would look 10X better on an actual nextgen engine.

Speaking of that. The tessellation in this game is pretty sweet too, the underwater scenes really stand out the geometry on some of the objects is just ridiculously detailed.

In conclusion the game sucks, its fun for about the first 3 hours, I have taken a break because I got bored of the mobs of enemies.

Story, 5
Gameplay 3
Graphics 4
Tesselation 9
Textures 10
Shaders 2

overall 4.5

[JokesOnYou]

A rush job is a rush job. No way these devs put their best effort into next gen versions. Karma.

[FITgamer]

We won't see the usual suspects commenting on this thread lol. I love Karma.

[NatureOfLogic]

$500 for lower resolution(720p), and still having frame rate issues. Xbox One is just weak. Premium price for the worst next gen format. The worst COD version is the only next gen(Xbone) version running at 720p. That's just sad.

[Angels3785]

From the article: "Conrad further went on to add that FPS drops from 60 to 50 FPS and is reason to not buy it (PS the 720p game has worse drops)"

Looks like its much more noticeable on the xbox one version.....and at a lower resolution.

[DragonKnight]

@Death: What does Killzone have to do with this article?

[DEAD-DEVIL-DISCO]

@eonjay

i wish treyarch would quit too, they have too much potential for other games. one of my favorite games from them years ago was spiderman 2. theyre better than this cod bs imo

[gaffyh]

Georgeenoob where are you now?

[Maddens Raiders]

Just imagine for one minute if Naughty Dog were making this this game simply for the ps4 and what it would look/play like. I know it's a total hypothetical, but damn this product is totally unacceptable for "next gen" systems. What a revelation this article is smh...

[PhantomT1412]

@Eonjay

Those at IW who wanted to move on from Call of Duty went away and started Respawn to make Titanfall. The current Infinity Ward is just a shadow of its former self and is fully loyal to Activision.

[starchild]

It runs like crap on all three systems. Just a very poorly engineered and poorly optimized game.

[mikeslemonade]

That does it! I'm canceling my perorder right now and getting Killzone

[pixelsword]

@ Jokes

Hmmm...

Good call:

http://n4g.com/news/1387042...

[mcstorm]

Are people not bored with playing modern warfare fps games now? Ive not been excited by cod or bf4 as its just the same as the last game but with shorter sp games. There are far better games out in the next few months imo so I hope people start to look at other IPs so we can stop getting this type of game every year.

[keabrown79]

I wonder if things like this will start to become more common. I mean at this point you are making "in same cases" as many as 5 different versions of the same game - 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, WiiU. All of which have different development tools and tricks to get them to run well. I'd have to think this is going to mean that games will be tested for bugs less and more issues will slip through the cracks. Kind of scary if you think about it.

[ChrisW]

With Jeremy Conrad making such comments, no wonder he's an "Ex-Editor" for IGN.

[fenome]

The sad part is, they already confirmed one for next year and this one just "released".

http://attackofthefanboy.co...

Take your time guys and optimize like prime does, hey, that rhymes huh?

[dexrei7]

@ ravinash

The guys that were in IW when the first MW came out are the guys making TitanFall, they left a while back now

[UltimateMaster]

And the bad news just keeps poring in.

F*** COD Ghost, I'm getting Killzone Shadow Fall.

[UltimateMaster]

The game isn't optimized period.

[hakeem0996]

All the versions suffers from Framerate issues .It was previously confirmed that the PS4 and PC had the same issue .

[pyramidshead]

All I can say to this article is, wow.

[tawak]

720p game has worse drops = we all know which is 720p. =D

[ABizzel1]

That's what happens when you spread yourself to thin. Running on 6 platforms is challenge for anyone.

[Eonjay]

Agreed.

[LordMaim]

And yet Ubisoft managed a multi-platform multi-generational release with Assassin's Creed IV. Heck, they almost did it twice, until they realized they were competing with themselves with Watch_Dogs and delayed it.

[Double_O_Revan]

Plus, you can only optimize an engine for so many years before your vision outpaces its capabilities.

[PhantomT1412]

@Lord Maim

Frame-rate is less important in AC than in COD. I don't think that justifies Call of Duty Ghosts' "poor" performance though.

[bjmartynhak]

With the money they have? Hire more people!

It is totally unacceptable that PCs with f** Titans can't play this game smoothly. And then the PS4, XB1...
Gosh, it is just a poor port from the 360!

I'm still buying the PS4 version though... the local co-op is still a nice one, specially with squads.

[GarrusVakarian]

I bet all the Xbox fans bashing the PS4 for "not being powerful enough to handle CoD at 1080p 60fps" feel pretty silly now seeing that all platforms are suffering from this problem. I said it was a developer issue from the start, there's no way a game that looks that crappy would have problems maintaining 60fps on next gen consoles and PC.

Edit: Are current gen consoles experiencing this issue, or is it next gen and PC exclusive?

[tudors]

360 and PS3 are both fine apparently.

[black0o]

^^ CoD was build on PS360 engine to began with, and they poorly ported to next-gen/PC

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Could the drop in fps be fixed with a patch tho?...need to know before I buy it.

[black0o]

^^ some times a simple patch can fix it and sometimes no ""skyrim on ps3 for example""

[2cents]

when it comes to consoles, all of these cross generation games are going to have problems on the xbox one especially.

Once we are past the ported games things will get much better. The new gen hasnt even started, yet people love to claim they know the outcomes already.
(Not you Lukas) I agree with what you say. I'ts just sad.

Im the least bit interested in these cookie cutter games. I want games that have been made for the platform. ie. Second Son, Shadowfall, Ryse, Sunset overdrive etc.

Not these mass market annual turds.
Considering they tried to make this game for 6 platforms concurrently, is impressive in its scope, but crap in its execution.

[Visiblemarc]

It's just that people are speculating. You yourself are speculating, in predicting things will improve beyond cross generational titles.

What stands out for most, is just simply the power gap. Sure games will probably perform better when they don't spend time on older console versions, but it's also safe to assume the performance gap between consoles will carry over too. So if xb1 suddenly starts hitting improved resolutions, you can bet ps4 will have enough left over power for them to add features, and actually, that may widen the visual gap between them for people who claim resolution isn't noticeable.

[LonDonE]

ryse was not made for next gen x1 from the ground up! it was originally a xbox 360 game for kinnect LMAO! hence why the game play reveal looked like a quick time event mash up! its in no way a game made ground up!

[2cents]

I'm basing my comment of what I have seen with the games that are designed for the Xbox one, I've played Ryse and Forza and they look and feel like next gen games. Kinect sports felt like a next gen game.

Cod, bf4 assasins creed, etc are not next gen games. They are cross platform. This is where the problem lies, the games are ported to, not developed for.

When you look at the spec difference of the two generations there is no way that there won't be an increase in quality across the board. 512mb ram to 8gb ram
Tricore to 8core processor etc.

I'm not making up a pipe dream speculation. I'm making an educated prediction.

If your concerned that I'm trying to say the Xbox is going to be as powerful as the PS4, don't worry, I'm not. PS4 has a very comfortable journey ahead of it and will reamin the more powerful console when it comes to specs.

@LondonE

Yes it was a 360 original, but it was shifted to be developed solely for the X1, so technically it is a x1 game. All resources have been focused on getting the best from a single platform, that being the X1. I'm glad your laughing your ass off about this, it just proves to me that you are a fanboy. It's ok though, my enjoyment of Ryse is no way effected by your snobbery.

[bicfitness]

While the Xbox faithful were salivating at the last "PS4 Has CoD FPS Issues" article, the sensible among us knew that clearly the X1 version would suffer the same or worse fate. No way weaker, more complicated hardware would run that code more efficiently than a PS4 would.

I guess the faithful are back to chasing clouds and fapping over MisterXmedia's drivel for the time being.

[avengers1978]

There are problems with this game across all of the platforms. They just keep remaking the same crap the same way and they can't get it to run right... I won't be buying this COD

[Dehnus]

So now both have frame rate issues as well? Well how much more proof do we need that this game runs on an old engine that basically is not at all optimized for either machine.

Oh well maybe now the fans of either platform will choose to "move on" from this series and check out the wonderfull experiences the consoles have to offer in other exclusive games! From Ryse to Killzone to Wonderfull 101 :). We do not need COD to have fun :).

[-Superman-]

400 us dollars - 1080p and 60fps
500 us dollars - 720p and frame rate drop
....

[Mosiac77]

you forgot to put frame rate issues on the PS4 also. Read the PS4 reviews.

[GurlPleaseBye]

are you purposely looking for dumb **** to throw out there? Clearly both suffer from the same problems. Idiot...

[Bathyj]

It's not IWs fault. MS demanded they put framerate issues in the Xbone version because ps4 has them. They're taking this console parity to far.

[GuruMeditation]

They should have worked harder and made frame-stuttering a timed-exclusive.

[thereapersson]

HAHA!

[Hayabusa 117]

Best comment ever.

[Mosiac77]

That's why he is an ex editor, because he is full of lies. What I just heard from my nephew who played the disc version at an event, said that it runs good. And that previous COD had worst frame issues than this one. So this guy is full of sh***T.

[starchild]

I guess we'll see once Digital Foundry does their analysis and once the next gen console versions of the game are out.

[IRON883]

Dear god xbone isn't even out yet and all these problems keep coming up! If even call of duty a heavy hitter for xbox can't get it right? Then how can there be hope for any other game or the system itself????

[bomboclaat_gamer]

did you even read to see that the problems are on the ps4 as well

how is this xbox ones fault
people are so stupid
im sorry, but i had to say it

[DEAD-DEVIL-DISCO]

doubt its the x1 man. its not a very demanding game for the hardware. i mean how could it be? looks the same as the 360 version to me with some fish or whatever

[SilentNegotiator]

"Conrad further went on to add that FPS drops from 60 to 50 FPS and is reason to not buy it (PS the 720p game has worse drops)"

Wait...so the controversy (with ps4 version) was over a 60fps game dropping less than 10 frames?

Wow. Such pettiness.

[assdan]

Welp, looks like what I was saying about cod suffering from framerate issues on x1 was right...

[Brazz]

to be fair... PS4 and PC version are having some FPS problems too... this is a problem of the game, not the console.
Shame on you IW

[SilentNegotiator]

Shame on IW over 10 frames or less dropped in a 60fps game? Are you guys joking or just looking for the latest reason to hate COD?

[PS4isKing_82]

But the xbone version is only 720p so shouldnt that version be easier to get to 60 fps?

[djtek184]

They were too focus on the dog and ignored everything else. Hey at least the dog still maintains a steady 60 FPS.

[mistertwoturbo]

Safe to say at this point, PC/PS4/X1 versions are having framerate drops.

Too bad for you Xbox fans who kept trying to act like it's an isolated issue for the PS4.

[MRMagoo123]

I as i was telling all the xboners yesterday not to get too excited about the ps4 having frame rate drops because i know a few ppl that review and they told me the xbone version is worse and at the same time looks far worse. They all look like idiots now lol especially GGJ ,KNWS,Belking,Corvusmd and morepowerofgreen

[r1sh12]

interesting how a different news site site the 1080p game has the exact same frame drops :/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/t...

Me thinks its the game dev and not the hardware

[showtimefolks]

MS scored the exclusive DLC a while back but forgot to tell Activision to not make the ps4 version better

seriously this system is suppose to be next gen,

[Pogmathoin]

Terrible, just terrible... Runs like shit on X1, and on the superior PS4, runs like a little less shit..... But fanboys do not see it like that.... Lets just talk about X1 version, divert away from our precious PS4.....
Mr mcgoo.... That was some good trolling....bubble up!

[AO1JMM]

PS4 version is apparently having the same issues as well.

[sweendog]

On a more important note. Is the fish A.I doing ok

[TruthInsider]

So let me get this straight:

X360 = 720p @ 60

Xboner = 720p @ 50

[Chrischi1988]

Wii U version runs smooth and that in Multiplayer, one on the gamepad and one on the TV, so the Wii U basically renders 2 screens at the same time. TV runs at native 880x720 and the gamepad at 852x480. Count that up, it is actually more than Xbox1, in Multiplayer.

But ok, thats just Pixeltalk, nothing about the other settings, which make a lot more, than most pixelman on here believe.

[RumbleFish]

Whatzzz the buzzz??? I must admit that my CoD history began with CoD 4 and ended with CoD W@W, and I am far from praising anything what happened to the series since, but come on! The game has not released yet on the new consoles. BF4 Beta ran on my desktop struggeling to achieve stable 40 fps and now I have 60 fps allmost all the time.
When you are insecure if you want to buy the game on either platform, wait until it's released, read the media AFTER release, ask your friends who bought it and mak your decision.
It's not like we're junkies, are we?

And one further thing: It's CoD! It will be nothing to measure the new gen of consoles. It's not meant to intruduce the new gen. It's meant to be played MP like there was no tomorrow and it has it's crowd that is not even reading one single word on this site.

Don't get me wrong! I would love to see the crowd of gamers to be informed, being able to vote with their wallets, but it's not like this at this moment.

[tigertom53]

I head from lots of sources that the software is shit the game is shit, and has nothing to do with the xbox. even on the highest end pc it runs like shit.....

[RumbleFish]

Ok, i didn't know that.

[dennett316]

All versions of this game suffer from problems, it's poorly optimised no matter the system. There's no talent left in Infinity Ward, they're all off doing Titanfall. I'd suggest that CoD fans wait for that game on 360, PC and One.
As for PS4 owners like myself, we'll just have to make do with Killzone Shadowfall, which looks LEAGUES ahead of CoD already. Destiny also is one to look forward to.

[eezo]

this is really shocking infinity ward really messed up this game completely on xbox one, they have a pretty good hardware at their hands but failed miserably to utilize its true potential and power, just look at Ryse and Forza 5 and compare it with CoD: ghosts

[asyouburn]

Not only is it a launch game, but is a port. I'm sure the next cod, next November will be quite a bit more solid

[eezo]

by that time don't you think, many cod fans might shift their loyalty to battlefield series?

its seems like Loss-Loss situation for Call of Duty

[asyouburn]

Maybe, only time will tell. But in the grand scheme of things, dropping 10 frames to 50 isn't all that bad to me. I didn't buy call of duty this year, but with the ground work that has been laid I'm confident that the next one will be a bit more optimized

[MRMagoo123]

@eezo

I dont think ppl will move loyalty to BF, they arent the same kind of game, BF is about giant open wars, COD is about fast paced small fights, I will prob play both but i prefer BF because thats more my style but other ppl like the twitch shooters more.

[sweendog]

Dropping 10fps isnt that bad? Screen tear nightmare. Most T.V's come in refresh rates that fit 60 and 30fps 120 480 600 etc. So if you have frame rate that isnt 30 or 60 it tears. Thats why KZ runs at 60 in SP but when things get taxing it jumps straight to 30. I think many will follow this technique. I used to have a 200hz tv for upstairs but swapped it for a 180 for that reason alone

[sigfredod]

Boom even at a lower resolution 720p the frame rate issue is present on the xbone, like the video show: http://youtu.be/teejnxOa9jg

[GmIsOnPt360]

LOL where were you when everyone was bashing the ps4 frame rate issues? PC frame rate issues, now the xbox one version is unplayable because of it ? meh not buying it

[sigfredod]

Thats why i post it, because yesterday when the post inform that some reviews report fps drops, you can check all the replys stating: 1080p by a price, or i will take locked 60fps over 1080p anyday, now even at lower resolution you have tha same issues

[GraveLord]

Obviously. Whoever thought the Xbox One version would be better in any way is seriously delusional.

Get back to reality.

[iceman06]

It was the usual XBDF out in full force. Yes they were delusional. Yes, they were told so. No, they didn't stop with the delusion!!! LOL

[Walker]

Poor Xbone :( !

[BobBelcher]

yes- Call of Duty isn't working right on the X1... oh no.

[cleft5]

Considering how plain CoD looks, this is a significant indicator of a much larger issue. It's not like CoD has a ton of bells and whistles going off so they should be able to run this at a complete stable framerate no problem. But they can't do that. It's fine to get a next-gen console, but don't bury your head in the sand about the truth of the limitations and problems developers are encountering.

[Dehnus]

@cleft5:
All platforms seem to have framerate issues. So really lets just move on from that crappy franchise and to "greener pastures" that grace each console. Killzone, Forza, Wonderfull 101, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Driveclub, Project Spark,... the list goes on..

All very creative fun games to come, so lets finally put this blasted BroGamer crap game to rest:). Let COD DIE! So it can join the ancestors of a WW 2 Shooter that it once was :).

[Visiblemarc]

@cleft5

Ubisoft's Sylvain Trottier:

"And to be really honest, Sony fixed all the issues that could have been there on the console and right now I think it's up to us; like we have a perfect jewel in our hand. It's up to us to push the bar and make it shine."

IW is the cause of all the issues found on all the platforms they are found on. However the reason for 720 on Xb1 is lack of power but the reason for framerate drops on PS4, XB1 and PC have nothing to do with power, there are clearly bugs in their autosaves and in the way they coded the effects.

[True_Samurai]

Poor all platforms

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Its even worse on Steam.

[Ketzicorn]

This game seems to just be crap period.

[Are_The_MaDNess]

the main sinner when it comes to the frame drops is the DOF you have when you ADS.
its sad really. something simple as a blur filter and the mess it up.
looks like they are drawing the scene twice.

https://vine.co/v/hIuQYraDY...

[Shnooze]

Shame on you, Infinity Ward!

[_LarZen_]

Even the PS4 has frame rate issues in this game...google it.

[DrRobotnik]

Every version does. That's why I'm skipping this one. To many other and better FPS out there. Infinityward lost me after MW2. I'll stick with trearch and wait for BO3. Till then, battle field and kill zone will satisfy me.

[tontontam0]

Yeah
ps4 version is being bashed for a while now
xbox fans are saying "I rather play at 720p with smooth framerate than 1080p with choppy framerate"
something like that.

turns out xbox one version also have these issues.

[MRMagoo123]

"Even the PS4 has frame rate issues in this game...google it." yes thats the whole point, xboners where bagging the PS4 yesterday talking about how it cant run cod at 1080p and that the xbone version will be smooth and perfect cos its 720p, one xboner even went as far as to say Sony paid IW to make it 1080p even tho they knew the frame rate would be worse...............but it turns out the xbone version running at 720p actually looks worse and runs worse lol. I think you are just a bit late to the party.

[Niv]

Fps drops in multiplayer is a no no.

A sad day...

[ambientFLIER]

Um, EVERY cod game has fps drops in multiplayer when there's a lot going on. Especially smoke grenades on COD4.

[ufo8mycat]

Why optimise when people buy it anyway?
Why change the game at all when people buy it anyway?

Save $$ that way

Blame all goes on those stupid casual gamers who buy this game, which make up the majority of the sales.

[svoulis]

This game proves that InfinityWard had been stretched too thin.

I am currently playing on PC. There is so much wrong with it

There is no FOV adjustment in it

Netcode makes it feel like you often die in one shot.

The FPS is terrible I mean sometime for no reason at all it dips to 20 FPS

When you use a sight with blur around it, it causes the game to lock up sometimes for a second or 2.

Just really bad...a few step back from Black Ops II

[warczar]

They have been going backwards for awhile now. When the real infinity ward left to form respawn the innovation and talent went with it.

[svoulis]

Ya, I just meant in terms of the PC port of it. I enjoyed Black Ops II very much. This so far has been a nightmare performance wise on a very expensive gaming PC.

[Visiblemarc]

Woah, I didn't realize it was that bad. Yikes!

[DoesUs]

Even at 720p? WOW! Where POG? Anyone seen him? LOL.

[Supermax]

The problem is to be next gen you need a next gen game engine to run the game this is why ea gave us frostbite 3.iw stayed with a last gen engine on a next gen game that dosnt work at all it was a big mistake on there part and in turn activision is responsible as well.when you release a game every year that also is a problem I'm glad that bis oft is ending assassins creed there's way to many.who knows though ghost made a ton of money on launch day was on par with gt5.what do you guys think I stopped playing cod back on cod 2 on PC.

[HastaLaVista]

Its launch games. The same problem exists on the other platform. Every generation which comes around the 1st batch of games are rushed to reach launch and graphics are poor compared to latet games. Its gonna happen. If ppl moan dont buy a next gen console, wait. Its to be expected considering hardware and software change to launch.

[asyouburn]

No one seems to understand this simple point. Regardless of any platforms strengths or deficiencies, the will find ways to optimize their code on both systems. Launch games are launch games.

[malakar]

People are acting as if this is new.COD as always been horribly not optimized on PS3 and decent on xbox. Its the same but the other way around. Now they can't do it right on xbox 1 and is decent on PS4. Anyway even if it sucks on PC modders still can patch the game to make it a bit better. Still, why the hell would I buy a copy pasted game.

[HastaLaVista]

Ps4 has the same problem. Its old news

[strickers]

But less severe. Did you read the comment??

[flunkers]

Mines bigger than yours!!!

[ELCUCO]

I'm sure Digital Foundry already has his Xboxone vs PS4 comparison video ready. Just waiting on the embargoed embargo to lift.

[mhunterjr]

I'm sure we all can agree that COD:ghosts should not be used for any benchmarking. The game runs/looks like shit on all platforms, despite being technically in unimpressive in every sense of the word. There are so many reasons NOT to buy, regardless of what your console of choice is.

If people would stop handing ACTIVISION money, despite their insistence that IW regurgitate entries into this tired franchise instead of making a decent engine, this wouldn't be happening. I don't see how COD fans could endorse this kind of behavior.

I can't for the life of me understand why this game is getting more preorders than both BF4 and Killzone SF.

[mep69]

This is what happens when you try to over use an old engine

[Reaper9937]

I guess next gen isn't ready for fish AI yet...Oh how i dream of the day when a game can implement fish AI and run at a buttery smooth
60FPS.

[XboxSeriesBest]

Who was honestly shocked? The XboxOne is weak hardware sold to the devout sheep at a premium price

[Kuse]

All systems are affected, not just Xbox One...

[XboxSeriesBest]

Yeah with xbox @720p. Garbage

[strickers]

Again. Did you read comment? Worse on 720 p version

[LogicStomper]

To all the non-believers and those that are just outright ignorant:

http://n4g.com/news/1387119...

http://gearnuke.com/call-du...

@XboxDone

Using your logic, you may as well be PlaystationDone too cause it's also having problems for being such a powerful console. Oh, you might as well also be PC done cause it's having problems on PC. Well look at that, not going to be gaming anymore are you?

Seriously, what sort of mentality do you fanboys have?

[TruthInsider]

For the millionth time, its less than half the pixels and has WORSE frame drops on Xbone!

[Fishy Fingers]

Who'd of thought juggling so many platforms with a limited development cycle could lead to problems.

[DEAD-DEVIL-DISCO]

id say delay it 3-4 weeks if that is the cause. can this be patched? i mean lets say its broken (unfinished)and cant be fixed what then?

[tigertom53]

they should of spent another billion and another year of development as well as get a whole new game engine, maybe it would be fixed

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Where all them X1 fans at from the PS4 article? But seriously this was expected if the PC and the PS4 version were suffering than the Xbox one was pretty much guarented to suffer the same fate. I was expecting this news to come out when the X1 version released but I guess fate wanted the Xbones to eat crow alot sooner than that.

[hello12]

Yet it was reported by IGN, Polygon, and others the only versions so far that had issues. Was the PS3/PS4 and PC.

X BOX 360 is fine according to those gaming outlets!

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Where in my comment did you see mention the Xbox 360?

[deadfrag]

Played the 360 version all run smooth like the other Cod games.Go guess!

[WeAreLegion]

I seriously doubt the frame rate on either version is so bad that it's unplayable.

[asyouburn]

For real, right? I've played (and thoroughly enjoyed) many many many games that ran way less fps.

[jackdaniels]

So some ex-editor (probably lost his job (and rightly so) for spreading fictitious rumours, spouts some more rubbish and you lot gobble it up without questioning the legitimacy of this article? good grief!

[Death]

I'm with you there. Usually when someone is an "ex" anything they aren't the most reliable source of information. He went from editor at IGN to writer for Furious Fanboys. Not sure how much info he has that the rest of us don't have access to. What build is he basing his opinion on? According to his Linkdin profile he is a former Sony Customer Service Rep at Sony Online Entertainment and former IGN DVD editior. That doesn't instill much confidence as far as his access to anything relevant is. Also makes him appear a little bit biased. Funny how those little details were left out. I wonder why?

[tiremfej]

Thank you for bringing sense into this debate. Or hullabaloo, whatever you want to call it. This guy is the only one saying it. I'll prefer to let the professionals handle it.

[Loki86]

This guy, wow does he have an agenda against MS, Conrad give it a rest.

[Ko_Uraki]

I follow him on Twitter. Every day he has only bad words for Microsoft. Not interested in what he says anymore

[hello12]

Why do people listen to this guy? He clearly is anti-Microsoft. I've never seen a positive comment about the xb1 yet from him. If he was guy who never took sides, I'd be more willing to listen to him.

Anyways Cod ghosts is dropping frames like crazy on the 1080p versions-PS4 and PC

So it not an issue with the xb1, Cod is just badly optimised and rubbish.

[BigShotSmoov007]

This is the main reason why I'm skipping this game. IW not only is just rushing a game out just to be on next gen, they are trying to get is hype about an inferior product on both systems. I don't get how a game you got to run 1080p 60fps has serious frame rate drops when I'm sure it has enough power and memory to handle the game. Even a game that's running and lower res isn't having frame rate drops? That's just unacceptable and lazy on IW part.

[InTheLab]

Ok so this company makes Billions off the games and their insanely overpriced dlc and where is that money going? It damn sure isn't being funneled back into the game for improvements..

[asyouburn]

Well, when you launch a 60fps multiplayer shooter across 6 platforms, be sure to come back here and comment so we know how smooth it went. Thanks

[tdogg]

why are you guys bashing both next gen consoles? this is clearly a problem with iw not the X1 or ps4

[KayanEnsan]

That's unbelievable! 720P and the graphics are so bad :) still have frame rate issues
Im done with the xbone for good

[jimbobbeers]

This is utter bullshit. Have you seen the guys timeline? All he does is bitch and mainly about Microsoft.

[Alvidta]

This dude is pretty much a anti-microsoft he's only stating this because of a video he watched. notice how he doesn't say xbox one? "People say 720p isn't a big deal compared to 1080p, but a FPS drop from 60 to 50 is reason to not buy it (PS the 720p game has worse drops)" if it's not true he can just deny it

[Alvidta]

heh

[unjust75]

This is not looking good, however, it's not the end of the world. IW has had to be ready 5 consoles this time. It was bound for some issues. It don't see why a patch couldn't fix these issues. Sounds to me this has been a set up for a bigger reason. COD has gotten old for the past 4 years yet it still remained on the top. Is the latest version so bad? Or are these reviews prepping for a bigger title to reign in. I'm willing to bet the stage is set for Titanfall to receive rave reviews as being the COD killer.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

And at the same time ps4 framerate is worse reviewed by Polygon.

[JuniorCE]

Well... The Xbone is having the same issues... Which is even worse... Since that the xbone is running on 720p, and even though, not a steady frame rate on Ghost... come on...

[ziggurcat]

it's not. stop lying.

[unjust75]

I

[hankmoody]

Wow, I'm speechless.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[OsirisBlack]

Wow... there are no words.

[Wizziokid]

I remember reading comments bashing the PS4 version when it was revealed it had issues. Now the X1 version has these issues what are the fanboys going to say?

The way to look at it is if you're a X1 player or a PS4 player avoid this game. These dev's don't care about their product they care about shelling out another yearly title to get more easy money. Just stop buying into it people.

[SpinalRemains138]

I wonder if Adam Sessler is writing a new spin on this? Since when did frame rate matter anyway? Snobs

[first1NFANTRY]

Man IW/Activison = the laziest devs in the gaming business. I mean the game is only at 720p and still has all these problems? How can people support such scum!?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

If true (and I have no reason to doubt at this point) what this tells me is two things:

1) COD for next gen and PC has issues that boggle the mind. Clearly IW took on too much trying to pump out their game to all platforms. The frame rate issues should be the real discussion at this point not silly arguments over resolution. Activision told us all COD would give us 60FPS on all platforms and now apparently that is not the case on most versions with the exception of the 360 so far.

2) This is a chink in the armor that other developers have been looking for. The window is now open for another IP or franchise to step in and replace COD as the #1 on the block. Now before you say it, it wont happen this year. This game is out and sold well but many, many are now feeling underwhelmed by what they have bought and experienced. Next years landscape will be very different and we very well could see COD not sitting at #1 or at minimum we will see numerous titles breathing down their neck for top dog vs what we have seen the past 6+yrs.

[CynicalKelly]

What gives? Is it developing on new hardware or are IW just being really lazy developers?

I know not much changes in Call of Duty and people give the developers a lot of slack for being lazy but I seen the ending which looked to be a direct copy of Modern Warfare 2.

How are they getting away with this? And why are they not ashamed of themselves?

[Bobertt]

Almost every console game has framerate drops at some point in the story. As long as it doesn't affect the gameplay its just an inconvenience not a reason not to buy a game. Plus half of you don't even play the story and this is their first game on a new console, old ps3 games were like that too.

[n4rc]

Cod games have sucked for the last few years.. Especially iw

They keep milking the engine that was left for them.. No real talent left apparently

Skipping it altogether this year.. My friends can play without me lol

[bmx_bandit]

Of course, N4G left out the rest of the article:

This means that not only Playstation 4 version of Call of Duty: Ghosts suffers from frame rate issues but Xbox One version as well even though it runs at lower resolution of 720p.

[Golden_Mud]

Everyone agrees that Battlefield 4 is actually better than this shit , like really even the Xbox One version of Battlefield 4 didn't suffer what it's suffering here , it's only two cases if you ask me :
1- Infinity Ward aren't anymore talented
2- Infinity Ward want to get separated of the Call of Duty franchise and make some better games

[Kidmyst]

It'll be interesting how this plays out since MSFT pays to have DLC released first on Xbox and how many console gamers are waiting to buy it on one or the other VS buying it now and upgrading.

[jeromeface]

I bet Activision feels pretty stupid for screwing up the contract on MW2 and all of the old IW jumping ship. If they were still around we'd prob have 90fps across all platforms, instead we get "barely runs at 60" garbage. If all these reports aren't enough evidence to skip on xbone IDK what is.

[The-mindblowerfucker]

who cares! its CALL OF DUTY! ITS GONNA SELL!!!!
ima eat some popcorn, anybody??

[jacksjus]

What makes things worse is that a smooth framerate is what IW states they were targeting, not the resolution. I find it unacceptable that the framerate is the issue right now. To Hell with a patch update, because this is what they said they were most certain would not be an issue. As far as I am concerned Ghost is a non-purchase and IW cannot be trusted from this point on.

[Petebloodyonion]

How come this guy can be called a reliable scource?

Go see is website and find me one article not written by Jeremy Conrad?
Or a postive article on MS.
Or a negative one regarding PS4.

All I see on is site, are hate articles regarding Xbone one.

http://furiousfanboys.com/c...

Here's my idea: Wait for the game to come out (both versions) play it then judge.

[ozstar]

Nintendo looked so silly last year with not a single day of HD development experience huh?

Devs are shooting the horse, and dragging the kart across the line now arn't they. Bloody tragic launch for everyone.

[feraldrgn]

"(PS the 720p game has worse drops)"

What??? o_O

[horndog]

I couldn't care less. I'm done with the series. These guys have zero respect for gamers and think people will flock to this shit just because its cod. No thanks.

[adwyer]

Regardless of power, COD looks exactly the same as it did in the previous gen. Both consoles are capable of running this game at 1080p @ 60fps.

Yes the PS4 is more powerful, but that does not mean the Xbox One is weak by any means (just the weaker of the two)

I don't see any other reason, other than poor optimisation and development as to why this has happened.

Why are consoles carrying getting the hate for lazy developers who want to milk a franchise to death and make millions with little to no effort in return.

I'm sure both consoles are capable of some extraordinary games once the developers who take pride in their work start to churn games out.

[DangerZone]

Polished turd of a videogame. No surprise the Xbox One is having issues if the PS4 and high end PC's were also seeing framerate drops

[kryteris]

This need for 60fps is getting old, you don't need it! Perhaps he was being sarcastic in his tweet. You really cant tell the difference until it goes below 25FPS. And the low spikes wont ever matter unless it hits below 20FPS.

This 60FPS obsession is a joke, Mid-range pc gaming (the majority) has existed at high settings and the 30+ range for years. And who do you think cares about quality more?

example: http://boallen.com/fps-comp...

[corvusmd]

So....ONE EX ign editor (meaning whatever inside stuff he MAY have seen is old) says that the XB1 version drops in framerate...and it's a huge deal...there are 5 reviews with current game reviewers that ALL say the PS4 suffers from framerate drops and in the same article the 3 that mention XB1 say that it doesn't have the same issues...and we as a website choose to ignore all those guys and focus on the one that says XB1 sucks (despite no longer being on the inside)

[NeloAnjelo]

There are no official reviews for the XBONE version. So all impressions are just hands on. MS is waiting until the week before release for the reviews. Pple are not even allowed to speak in any detail of the XB1 version.

However what reason would this guy have to lie, and risk his previous reputation and fanbase? None.

[jackdaniels]

his fanbase - that made me chuckle ;-)

[NeloAnjelo]

Some good comments here, with backed up info and quotes are marked as trolling... I guess some pple refuse to see the truth... Which clearly is... The weaker, more expensive console have worse issues. The other camp were rejoicing about 720p with a locked 60 fps. Where are they now? Goes to show the power of DA CLOUD is BS.

[MadMen]

Ok people, first off last gen this was reversed, PS3 suffered on a normal basis from issues. Yet SONY fans fought hard and were in denail. This round its reversed and SONY fans are trouncing and Xbox fans are in Denial.

In the end seriously, let the brand loyalty go, they dont feed your children or get you women, let it go.

Now on to the article - patches will come out and resolve the majority of issues other than Resolution, so sit tight.

I myself will pick up the PS4 version, since the system is 100 dollars cheaper.

[jacksjus]

I agree with you regarding everything except one fact. The PS3 didn't have limitations at the time, it was just too difficult to program for. Experience could have easily alleviated that issue. However, the XBox One's problem may never go away. The only way they will be able to bridge the gap between the two systems is to fall back to the ways of this current gen. Therefore games are made on the X1 and ported to the PS4. I believe this is what will happen, becasue any improvements in programming on the X1 is directly proportional to improvements on the PS4. The gap can never be closed without dumbing down the PS4.

[DoubleM70]

The best Devs left Infinty Ward to join Respawn. Across the board it's the same problem framerate issues. I don't care if it's 720P or 1080P on PC and PS4. They rushed this title out and about to make shit loads of money off of it.

[Lysander91]

We definitely shouldn't draw any conclusions about next-gen hardware from this game. Even if you have a Titan you can't consistently run this game at 60fps with 1080p and max settings. Apparently the game suffers from massive framerate drops and microstutter on PC. It's obviously poorly optimized on everything but current gen systems.

[Reem]

I was saying this before and was getting a lot of disagrees from the bots and even lost a bubble, but I was right. Xbone is a disaster waiting to happen! And Major Nelson couldn't wait for the truth to come out, hope he's happy with the truth lol

[justSumDood]

complaining about framerate drops from 60 down to 50 is ridiculous.

apart from possibly a slight drop in texture clarity or perhaps some screen tearing, the naked eye cannot perceive the difference in framerates at those numbers.

only when fps's drop below 20 into the mid teens will it truly be noticable, and ONLY if its consistent over a period of time. thats what produces stuttering and lag.

think about the term, Frames per "SECOND," by the time your subconcious registers the drop (if its drastic enough) another second and another 50-60 frames have already passed before your eyes. and by the time it takes you to realize that another second and 50-60 frames have passed, and so on...

there are alot of articles out there written by devs and the like that can explain it in greater detail if anyone is interested in educating themselves.

[gametipcenter]

Why isn't this article titled "Call of Duty: Ghosts has framerate issues on all consoles so far"?

Quit feeding the fire, you're falling for one of the oldest marketing trick in the book.. controversial topics meant to stir up anger and emotions.

[arbitor365]

lol. as soon as they said "the PS4 version has framerate issues" I said "wait for some info to slip through the xbox one review embargo." and look what happened. it sounds like it has worse framerate issues

[Giru017]

Didn't EVERY Xbox One game have a total embargo on them? Isn't IGN taking a HUUUUGE risk by even saying this much?

[neoMAXMLC]

*EX* IGN member.

This guy will say whatever he wants.

[ziggurcat]

funny how any time something negative about a game on xbone comes out, the xbox fanboys cry, "anonymous dev", "unreliable source" or "old build."

however, in this particular case, it's got nothing to do with the hardware, and everything to do with IW's code since there are frame rate issues on both systems.

[kewlkat007]

Guys for one second, you think these new consoles cannot run COD? you sh!ting me...

Why we giving the devs a free pass...

I understand deadlines with new consoles is expected but don't judge either console on launch games...

[boeso]

Kaboom.

X1 people, as a gamer I feel for you, you deserve better. M$ have not made a gaming machine (we knew this a while ago). If you're a casual then this isn't news but a shout to my gamers, you guys deserve better.

[ballsohard2013]

I check-in throughout the day to see some updated videos
Or clips for both Ps4 and X1.... Then I see the top 5 trending
Articles on the site always has 3-4 articles flaming that are anti Xbox One
Or disparaging towards Microsoft like if Sony hasn't been
Anti-consumer in the past or like they didn't have an online blackout for
A month.

Man it's damn near disgusting with the fanboy shit. And funny thing is I'm getting
Both consoles cause I can AFFORD to do so. Dudes on here act like
Competition is bad. If there is no competition, there is no inspiration to innovate and
Do big things morons. You kids gotta get it together.

Edit: oh did I mention how LAME being a fanboy is. If your a Microsoft fanboy, I'm talking
To you too!!!

[bobacdigital]

What seems to amaze me about this whole debacle ... is people gave the Wii U such a hard time with black ops 2 saying it should have ran the game better... Yet now the xb1 and ps4 are getting passes because Infinity Ward was being lazy and didnt optimize the game properly for next gen...

I guess it has come full circle .. the next gen consoles are having the same issues with optimization that the Nintendo fans have been clamoring about for the Wii U.

[pop-voxuli]

How easily y'all forget that this isn't the REAL Infinity Ward that developed it. The real IW(Respawn) are developing Titanfall.

[Zancruz]

People should've stop buying this game 37 Call Of Duties ago..... Smh, Giving $60 to deal with the same problems game after game causing the same frustrating rage year after year... Some people will never learn lol.

[Lonnie18]

Stop making cod now please, we get it point shoot blah blah blah...

[bocajbee]

They complaining about drops to 50FPS?

They are joking right?

Right?

I play Battlefield 4 on my PC at 50-60FPS capped and it seems fine, even with a keyboard and mouse let along a controller...

[bjmartynhak]

He's complaining that 1080p to 720p is not much according to the gaming media, but that the FPS drops in PS4 is too much. Then add that the FPS drops in the Xbox One is worse.

Worse resolution
Worse FPS

That's what he is claiming. Truth? Don't trust him so much, though I don't doubt.
There is a X1 video showing heavy framedrops and PCs running COD with Titans are also having problems

[jah-Fu]

Calling all Sony Enforcement Patrols, please respond to post COD Ghosts On XBO on n4g stat! Reply with vitriol, angst and arrogance. Use double standards when necessary. Use quotes from other posts. Use the word 'superior' to promote a perceived dominance. At all times we can do what the other can do but "better", no matter what. Copy and paste where appropriate. Belittle as much as possible.

[AO1JMM]

Weird! Destructoid says otherwise.

http://www.destructoid.com/...

[Hipflask]

It is dev problem - PC has some serious issues. If it was only one platform that had problems I could see why some would think a hardware issue - but for PC XB1 and PS4...
Anyway have a look at this PC review for COD - it says it all

[srd4484]

can't we all just wait for the game to be released and judge for ourselves. And i really doubt the avg COD ghost fan, like myself, will even care.

I'm playing Ghost now for 360 and don't pay attention to that. BUT I think I'm done buying the Map packs.

[tommygunzII]

Their target audience probably can't spell frame rate issues.

[JustInTlME]

I hope this gets fixed because at the moment its the only game I had planned on getting for the "One" at launch. I already have Killzone for my PS4 and I am getting AC4 and Knack for PS4 as well...

[CoryHG]

Everyone should just pass on this title.

[Soldierone]

I was reading the whole reason its dropped to 720 was the fact they wanted 60FPS to remain. Either way they didn't seem too thrilled with Xbox One hardware as is, and noted they were not the only ones having issues.

[zr1kris]

I thought I was going crazy I have been playing on PC, I downloaded from steam and put all the graphics setting on high. I am running a EVGA 670GTX FTW 4gig DDR5 card (no slouch of a card). I would notice good smooth gameplay but twitchy when I would mouse around and at other times getting same twicthyness. I thought maybe I have setting to high, cant find a draw fps setting anywhere. Mind you I can play BF3 on ultra and run 140+fps on this setup (havent tried BF4 yet) Black Ops 2 runs 200+fps lol. I used the optimal video mode and holy shit game looked like elephant crap and still twitchy as hell. Put settings back to max much better looking same twitchy issue. Thanks I/W for making a game that stutters like Jimmy from south park.

[quenomamen]

Who's surprised ? If your still buying Call it Doodie hoping " that this one will be the one to get it right " Then your a moron and if I may quote Vaas.

" You know what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change... That. Is. Crazy."

[WolfOfDarknesss]

I agree

[AlexFili]

This is definitely a blow considering Infinity Ward's focus on 60 frames per second, hopefully they will be able to address these issues in a patch of some sort

[AKS]

That's the main reason? I could think of many more reasons not to buy recent CoD games...

[leejohnson222]

I think this is a big problem and not just fuel for fam boys but if your spending over£430 on next gen that struggles to run last gen, then there is a huge issue here and consumers need to be aware of this rather than people like sessler justifying it or giving it a free pass

[ruefrak]

I'm reading Jeremy Conrad's tweet differently. I think Gamepur is misinterpreting what he's saying.
He's complaining that all these reviewers are making a big deal out of the PS4 version dropping frame rate from 60 to 50 fps once in awhile and those reviewers make it sound like you shouldn't buy the PS4 version for that reason (despite the fact that you'll hardly notice the slight frame drop).
But the fact the XB1 version is at 720 is not an issue at all and 1080p games and 720p games all look the same anyway.

My question for all the people who argue that 720p upscaled is the same thing, then why not make the game at 480 and upscale it? Afterall, wouldn't it look just the same since it's still outputting at 1080?

[DanDan7]

Ok first off I'm not a XBone fan boy, I hate M$. But why is this article claiming it runs smoother on the XBone?: http://www.destructoid.com/...

[CBaoth]

I don't care about the fanboy wars either but I gotta admit we're all typing counterpoints in a COD article for Pete's sake! A game that nearly everyone on N4G acts like it's a pariah 11 out of the 12 months of the year - now we're all going goonie gaga over its shortcomings? Hilarious.

I'm not dismissing your link, but did you notice 2 things about it? A) He spent more time in the load outs section than he did playing it; only 1 match by his own admission and B) He played a capture the flag variant and sat there camping his own flag? I wonder just how many FPS drops can one induce while standing still?

[Flutterby]

As cboath said , the guy played one match and barely moved that's not saying much, also where did you get the smoother than ps4 idea from , he even says in the article he hasn't even seen the ps4 version so can't make a comparison lol, but as first mentioned he played one match and didn't move much at all he can't really comment on fps at all, check the YouTube vids from ppl that have been playing the retail version the xbone version is dismal

[sephiroth420]

I have to say i highly disagree, you shouldnt buy cod ghosts on any console as its pretty much the same old shit but dressed a little differently.

[Ma1nframe]

LOL we all know that the PS4 is much more powerful then the Xbone and the fact the COD: Ghosts runs at 1080P on the PS4 but only 720p (LOL) on the Xbone proves it. End of story and conversation. PS4 trumps the XBone in every way possible.

What a great start to the next generation with the PS4 kicking ass right from the start. Awesome!!!

[bobacdigital]

I wonder when digital foundry is going to do a proper comparison of the consoles.

One thing ive learned from PC gaming is sometimes when you move the resolution up you have to compromise some of the eye candy to get it running at a steady 60 fps.

It is entirely possibly that the PS4 had to compromise something to get the system running at 1080p vs the X1 who may have opted for 720 with more or less eye candy?