Konami employee confirms no retail version for Ground Zeroes on XB1 and PS4, big announcement coming

It seems like Konami is not planning to release a retail version for the next gen consoles. However, there is a 'big announcement' coming soon.

[Snookies12]

W-What? That's just weird.

[xHeavYx]

I find that really hard to believe, especially thinking how big this game will be

[rambi80]

Its the new way of dealing with the used games market.

[Lboogieskells]

IGN just confirmed, 30.00 USD for one mission.

[camel_toad]

I do too. There's just no way that's possible...

[mikeslemonade]

This is so Kojima.. Even though this is like done by Konami, I would not be suprised if Kojima did this. He's always done the unorthodox practice such as the the first multiple layer blu-ray game and then having you to install games by chapters.

I personally don't mind this, however it does suck a little because the games price will not drop as fast.

[ohiostatesman]

It's fantastic this game is coming to Xbox One where I can play it. My system of choice.

[SilentNegotiator]

I hope they don't mind having 1/10 of the sales if this is true.

[mikeslemonade]

^

MGSV coming to the Xbox one.. With a lower resolution. **ZING!**

[yellowgerbil]

this game will likely only have about 2 hrs of gameplay. It is basically a glorified demo.
Am expecting it to be like the snake portion of MGS2 in length, with as much cutscenes as there is gameplay.
digital makes sense

[RumbleFish]

That would be the first MGS I don't buy. Sorry.

[NukaCola]

No retail for a download title this massive seems odd. Maybe therr more than expected. Kojima loves trolling us.

[seanpitt23]

My Internet would probably take weeks to download this game on psn so I hope it's not true.

[joe90]

I'm not bothered about the whole download thing with any other game. It's just with MGS games i like to have the physical copy to go with my collection.

http://postimg.org/image/3m...

[0ut1awed]

Where is the original Sons of Liberty, Snake Eater, or Subsistence? Just seems kind of odd that someone obsessed enough to want a physical copy of the next MGS just for their collection doesn't actually have a full collection.

[joe90]

Obsessed? Where did that come from?

I owned original subsistence and substance but was offered £55 for both at it's peak before the HD collection came out, Plus my PS3 doesn't play PS2 games so seemed like the right thing to do.

Anyway Why does it matter to you. I own the physical copy of them all don't i, Least my PS1 versions are not from the PSN store. Also i get to play them in HD, i could of emulated them on my PC and had them in HD but i wanted the HD collection in physical copy.

[0ut1awed]

Jeez no reason to get so defensive.

I simply thought it was odd.

[Clarence]

I agree. I try to get all the art books as well.

[THamm]

No LE, No collection

[InactiveUser]

The best versions of each game isn't 'lacking'. There's no point in having the HD collection and the lesser quality PS2 versions that he wouldn't even be able to play.

I have basically the same.. physical MGS1 from the Essentials Collection, MGS HD Collection (2/3), MGS4. I just don't have tactical missions for PS1 and haven't found the urge to play Peace Walker yet.

[coolasj]

They want you to buy it twice for the collectors out there.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Exactly, Kojima wanting it or not, Konami won't pass the chance of making a LE or CE retail later on, and charge us 80 dollars... Which, sadly, I'll happily pay.

[princejb134]

very weird
i rather get the game retail
so sorry konami no retail = no buy from me

[Ps4Console]

Well that is downright wrong if they're going to start playing that trick because with the launch titles .
Sony has promised us more games so we can live without this game because all gamers stick together remember Dead Space ring a bell , there not going to stop the used market if they do that our great tradition of actually going to buy a game & chat to other gamers at the store will be over no way & that goes for all console gamers .

[zerocrossing]

Very weird :/ and pretty doubtful too.

[90Supra]

...gotta be shittin' me

[Benjammin25]

I'd imagine this game will have to be region of 50GB's to download. Do Konami think that everyone will be ok with this? My download limit a month is 30Gb. :(

[deadfrag]

Ground Zeros is the prologue it will most likely be just one mission and it will not take 50gb.tHAN Phantom Pain is the actuall game that most likely will exced the 50gb,but will also release in disc!

[Soldierone]

If there really isn't then I'll be buying the PS3 version.

[Sarcasm]

Wait what??????

[Pillsbury1]

Digital for ps4 for me then because I need that high-def 60fps MGS, and I can stream it to my vita! Next gen is here :D

[IIZANGETSUII]

Wow that's just bullshit, really hoping for a retail version of this game

[HappyWithOneBubble]

I wasn't expecting this.

[pyramidshead]

100GB download confirmed.

[matrixman92]

does it really matter? i dont think I would want a full retail version of 1 mission that will probably take less than an hour to beat...hopefully it will be full of cutscenes

Edit: Everyone, this is NOT the phantom pain. It is it's prologue which will only be one mission long. This isnt that big of a deal

[porkChop]

It's not just one mission. Why would they go through the trouble of making a huge open world, features like calling in helicopters for extraction with custom music, etc, for only one mission? The game will be smaller than the main MGS5 game since GZ is a prologue, but it will still be at least a good 6-8 hours.

[izumo_lee]

I think you are mistaking this for the actual mgs5 that is probably be the big news they will announce the release date for. This is the game that will be open world & all that jazz.

Phantom Pain is a downloadable game that sets up mgs5 I would gather. It's one mission long but for 30$ probably be only a couple hours.

[izumo_lee]

I think you are mistaking this for the actual mgs5 that is probably be the big news they will announce the release date for. This is the game that will be open world & all that jazz.

Ground Zeroes is a downloadable game that sets up mgs5 I would gather. It's one mission long but for 30$ probably be only a couple hours.

[matrixman92]

"Ground Zeroes consists of one mission - a Cuban rescue mission - that has been extensively demoed this year, including at Tokyo Game Show in September."

http://www.ign.com/articles...

[porkChop]

WTF? Really? When they originally announced Ground Zeroes, before TPP was announced, GZ was said to be a huge game and that in-between missions you could do a bunch of stuff like call in for helicopter extraction for example. I'm guessing they ripped all that content out for MGS5: TPP.

If Kojima thinks I'll pay $20 for one mission he can fuck right off.

[despair]

Its almost certainly not going to be 1 hour, technically MGS2 was 2 missions for the entire game but it didn't last 2 hours did it? Plus they said it would have side missions and probably a fair amount of replayability.

My guess its about 10-12 hours long including cutscenes and flexible by a couple hours in either direction. At least that's what I hope for, 30 bucks is not worth a short prologue.

[matrixman92]

the tanker mission could easily be beaten in about an hour in mgs2...im expecting this to be similar to that...I think you are getting this confused with the Phantom Pain.

[despair]

Yea but the rig mission was the rest of the game, and no I'm not mistaking one for the other. You assume one mission(and side missions) means anything more than one location. It might be a giant complex with island exploration multi tiered mission structure with quite a number of side missions that could potentially take dozens of hours to beat, but realistically be minimum 6-8 hours in length.

They will get huge backlash for a 30 dollar game that it's one hour long. And I think it will be a decent length prologue that will be worth the price.

[dansdooz]

Ground zeroes 720p on xb1 incoming!

[Back-to-Back]

"but but... its upscaled to 1080p"

In my best Aaron Greenburg voice.

[MasterCornholio]

Yeah silly didn't you know that 1080P= 720p

;p

-sarcasm-

Nexus 7 2013

[kickerz]

Will be downloading that game straight into my xb1 :)

[listenkids]

Kojima and everyone involved are doing everything they possibly could wrong. No one wants to pay £20 for a demo, we did that for MGS2 but got a solid game in ZoE for it, then there's the whole boycotting Hayter and so on.

[Akuma2K]

If its a digital copy instead of physical for the PS4 version i'm cool with that, even with it being just the prologue i'm cool with that too i'm just ready to play the next chapter of the Metal Gear series in next gen.....bring it on.

[nirwanda]

Reading the article it makes it sound like metal gear is going to be episodic.
Doesn't make much sense for an open world game unless its included with the new mgs as a prologue.

[Nyxus]

There are going to be two parts: GZ and TPP. The latter one is a huge open world game, the first one the prologue to this game.

[nirwanda]

If they have decided that the prologue is important to the main story them they may bung it all on one disk or even maybe make it like a preorder dlc rather than have a disjointed story.

[LEOPARD1030]

LOL Konami wants to sell games divided per chapter. This is weird.

[ZBlacktt]

Because it's not going to be ready and he is making it up as he goes. Again, should have stopped at MGS4 like he said he was. Now it just some game and some missions of randomness.

[ziggurcat]

... but... isn't it coming out for xbone/PS4?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

So basically "Ground Zeros" is going to be some kind of prequel game released to the online stores only for $30 and then Metal Gear Solid 5 will come later at full retail. Could be a smart move and a way for them to milk an extra $30 out of the fan base by keeping it separate from MGS5.

[Ares84HU]

Well, they just lost a sale than.

[cyberninja]

No physical copy means no buy for me.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

It's going to be a back story to phantom pain 1-2hours long

[thehitman]

Maybe it will come on the same disc as phantom pain instead since both next-gen consoles have blu-ray.

[Double_O_Revan]

Thats exactly what popped in my head as soon as I read his comment. He didnt Deny anything. He just redirected. Im thinking nextgen will get the complete game first.

It makes sense. its a way to push people to nextgen without alienating previous gen gamers holding out.

[mydyingparadiselost]

First Killer Instinct is said to be sold in 2 $40 sets and now this MGS thing with a prologue for $30 and then the full game later for however much cash.... next gen pricing schemes are starting to look like robbery.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am not sure about "robbery". I mean last gen we saw the PS3 get GT5 Prologue and then come out with GT5 later. I think Prologue was $40 (maybe $20...cant recall) and the full retail game that came out later was $60. So we have seen stuff like this before. I just hope publishers / developers can carve out a market for tier 2 games ...not AAA level but more than just a downloadable title for $30-$40. I am tired of seeing all games either $10/$15 or $60. We have no middle ground pricing at all and we should.

[mydyingparadiselost]

Before the beginning of this gen there were experiments with pricing games for $60 instead of $50. Games like Doom 3 on the Xbox were $60 instead of $50 but came with extra content, like a making of DVD. Those were tests to see if people would pay $10 more dollars for a game and the results were good enough that all games wound up being $60 since people were more than willing to pay the price. Now, at the end of this gen, we've seen 'episodic' games, the Season Pass, the online pass, microtransactions and more. I think the same thing is happening as before. Companies are experimenting with various business models in the attempt to find ways to make our costs higher or to split up content in attempts to make more money off of the same amount of content.

I think the $30 to $40 dollar option you talk about is coming but I doubt we'll see that happen from many, if any at all, AAA companies. Indie dev teams will grow in size and start offering a middle ground solution for the most part, while a few AAA devs will use things like the UbiArt engine to lower costs and maybe sell at a lower price point. Also we do have that $30 to $40 price point now and is used games and almost anything outside of a Nintendo game that has been on shelves for more than 4 months. This is the area that's probably going to be in flux more than any other with the coming generation.

[TomahawkX]

For people saying it's just 1 mission, well MGS1 was basically just 1 mission, infiltrate Shadow Moses and stop Metal Gear. Also there are suppose to be many side missions in GZ just like any other open-world game.

[jay2]

PS3 for me then with my piece of shit as a 1.5MB connection :@.

[Campy da Camper]

Can't you just go to library and download it to a flash drive? Or Kinkos? Honest question.

[Hassassin]

big announcement = PC version??? (one can wish)

[Dante81]

Since it's digital-only. Might as well.

[Inception]

I'm not like some fans who can't tolerate Kojima / Konami for replacing David Hayter or put regenerative health & bullet time in MGS V and refuse to buy the game.

But this...this...make me worry and sad in the same time. My hype metre for MGS V also going down a couple of notch. I hope Kojima / Konami not doing this again for the next MGS :(

[JasonKCK]

Eventually everything will go digital like Steam.

[Neo-Axl]

I damned well hope not, physical copies are the way ahead. I download short demos, not full on games, just doesn't sit right with me.

[Aleithian]

I'll wait for more information before passing judgment. Kojima's earned my patience.

[Campy da Camper]

Me too. Honestly, I'd rather pass on GZ for now if a retail collectors addition comes out later with both games on it. It will kill me to wait but not as much as playing a couple hours then having nothing but the wait for months.

[Lowsnamebrand]

Agreed if I have to download it I will, I've been a huge MGS fan since MGS1 and I'm not missing this game

[Aleithian]

I will download it happily in principle. Love the series and am happy to support it. But I want to hold off for the "big news" and for a possible GotY edition packed with TPP. I'm in no rush for this one. I just want to know whether the conspiracy theory about the main character is correct.

[deadfrag]

Rip off!One mission $29.99 PS4 and X1 digital or $19.99 PS3 xbox 360 retail disc;rip off in a big way!Konami dont release games and try to rip MGS fans thats it,theres no excuse for this kind of price tag.

[CyrusLemont]

I always thought Ground Zeroes was a prequel mission in MGS 5 that takes place in a mini open world area outside of the main open world area and sets up the story for it. The title of the mission is called Ground Zeroes.

BUT NOW, I think the announcement might be that they're doing something similar to Dead Rising 2: Case Zero, which is its own game digitally released, with watered down gameplay of the full game, its own unique world and a story that sets up the premise for DR2. Perhaps Kojima intends to this with Ground Zeroes. Anyone else get what I'm saying?

[DarkBlood]

no physical ps4 versions then i will just get it for my ps3 instead then.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Im buying the PS3 version anyways.

[MadMax]

You just lost a customer.

[sidekick1971]

hmmmmm.I dont think its true. I would like it on my shelf with the rest of my collection

[AIndoria]

OH hey I have a .512 mbps connection but it's all fine right because we're in a digital age...Right?....Right?!
Guys...

[Yui_Suzumiya]

PS4K > XBOX720p

[urwifeminder]

Was not on my radar sucks for the guys that like this type of thing.

[MuhammadJA]

so you people stop buying used games. digital is the future!

[MasterCornholio]

!

[Iltapalanyymi]

Nah this cant be true. Kojima would never do this. Remember when they even released a physical copy of metal gear rising demo? :3

[LetoAtreides82]

If he expects me to sit there for days downloading this game then i'm not buying it. Retail or no buy from me.

[memots]

i really hope not.

[boing1]

Ground Zeroes is coming to PSPlus.

[jspillen]

This game is too big, and forces me to occupy a huge part of my hard drive. This is bullshit, if you wind up getting less than 10 games on your harddrive before it's maxed out.

Those people with slower or no internet connection won't really even be eligible for this game then.

I can't even fully believe this rumor at this point. Everyone make sure to twitter them, and let them know this will not pass.

Seems like the gaming community has been able to shake up the corporate juggernauts several times over the past couple years. Go internet.

[BABY-JEDI]

Nooooooo Snake......

[mixelon]

Makes sense.. Ground Zeroes is kind of like the MGS equivalent of GT:Prologue and Dead Rising 2: Case West ... It's not a full blown title so it doesn't need a disk version.

Like a lot of people point out it'll likely come with MGS5 in some "complete edition" or other.

[Neo-Axl]

Or they could just release both in one as a Full game.

Starting to dislike Kojima, his awkward choices had a fluent charm, but these choices have no charm, just greed.

[mixelon]

I expect it's less about greed and more about the spiralling costs of changing MGS into an open world game. I'm sure it'll work out in the end.

[Neo-Axl]

Going cross platform should have sorted that matter out, If this is one mission that will last at least 6 hours, I may force myself to download it.. digital only is pushing it for me, and cutting the game into two bits is seriously over the top.

[cactusjack]

i hope kojima and konami are watching the healthcare website fiasco.

[Melankolis]

Maybe retail version for next gen will follow as MGSV -phantom pain included- because Ground Zeroes itself won't have long hours campaign

[Nodoze]

Sorry, I don't buy digital games that should be RETAIL titles.

-1 customer.

[punisher99]

Its just a demo/prequel of the real game, so no big deal here.

[misterssippi]

More and more this will happen. Eventually games will all be dowload only. That also means lower prices and more choices.

[sarshelyam]

I certainly hope this isn't true...I'm still not on the digital boat, some habits won't die and I desperately want this for my PS4.

[ZombieGamerMan]

Guys its a rumor not actual facts, if they are doing a current gen retail version they are probably doing the same for next gen since PS4 & X1 use blu ray discs just like PS3.

[GraveLord]

No buy then. Oh well.

[aquamala]

it's coming folks, more and more games will be digital only next gen

[Pintheshadows]

Wait, I am so confused, I thought Ground Zeroes was the prologue to TPP. As in the prologue within the game. Not an entirely separate entity.

I missed this news apparently. Seems odd to me.

[Shnooze]

Guess I'm skipping this.

God damn it, I was actually looking forward to this too.

[mohuzas]

so we have to pay for demos now?

[Section8]

No retail copy than no game sale from me.