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Albert Penello questioned on use of PC footage for Xbox promo

Albert Penello is asked why MS used PC footage from Battlefield 4 for an Xbox promo.

GarrusVakarian3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Albert's reply doesn't make what they did any less deceiving. Putting an Xbox logo over PC footage for a MS sponsored promo AND uploading it to the official Xbox YouTube channel is just plain wrong. He doesn't even seem to understand what the problem is judging from his tweet......wow.

Angels37853820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

I can't wait to heard more BS from him....

After reading (edit): Oh look...he passed off the question and ignored the misleading nature of the footage.

abzdine3820d ago

STFU penello everyone is sick of your BS interventions.
Those guys have no honor, ready for everything to proof their point.

Lalanana3820d ago

Wow dude, I never thought you would be this close minded. Alot of games are advertise this way.. people just like to bash anything on xbox because of MS. what a shame.

Game-ur3820d ago

IMOO the thing turning gamers away from XBox is the constant spin and deception, many can look beyond the weeker specs if they trust the company to serve our interest in the long run, but right now I find that difficult, and I'm a gamer that usually buys every console but I canceled my X1 order because I just can't trust the people in charge.

SilentNegotiator3820d ago

@Lalanana

So you're either assuming that he isn't aware of that fact or that he doesn't condemn it other times based on.....what exactly?

zeee3820d ago

Lalanana: Not even the biggest fanboy would act so blind so I am guessing that you are trolling. Imagine seeing an ad of a laptop with all these nice specs, running BF4 on max settings. Then you go buy that laptop/computer only to find out, it doesn't run BF4 on max settings. It can hardly run it on medium settings. You'd probably be like, "hey, what the hell?! This is not what was advertised" and you'll probably go and return the product.

Are you telling me that you are so sure about MS even their track record that you believe in everything they say, hell, even in their deliberate mistakes? Please be serious and don't troll me. I am actually looking forward to hearing from you.

PeaSFor3820d ago

false advertising right here....

so yeah, lying, misleading and arrogant PR seem to be the usual buisness at MS

LonDonE3820d ago

THIS IS A BAIT AND SWITCH! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

amiga-man3819d ago

M$ just cant be trusted, how many times will people let them get away with blatant lying before people stop defending them?

M$...........M........Mirrors .......S...........Smoke

dedicatedtogamers3819d ago

And yet there are people out there (setting aside the people online who are legitimate "viral marketers" hired by Microsoft) who honestly place their gaming entertainment future in the hands of Microsoft...

Kinda sad.

thekhurg3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

Dude how else is this commercial to going to air on 1080i stations? It's not like our cable/satellite can upscale 720p xbox one footage to 1080i feeds...

AsimLeonheart3819d ago

@Lalanana

God! How blind can you be!? Lying and deceiving is WRONG! You CANNOT justify it in any way! I hope you do not justify other crimes in a similar fashion. Just because others may be doing it, does not gives you the license to do it yourself. Are you allowed to to rob a bank or kill someone just because others are already doing it? Your sense of right and wrong is really twisted.

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mrnice3820d ago

someone should gag him.or sack him.i have played em both and was getting both but they just lie. all the time come on ms.stop with the crap truth will come out when you take are money and were stuck with this crap.come march xbox 2 out 1080p without kinect.300 lol

iamnsuperman3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Pretty much it really. If this was uploaded on Microsoft's YouTube page and being used to advertise Windows then fine but since it was being used on the One YouTube page with a big Xbox logo on the video advertising an Xbox One promo event it is a problem

I think it might have been a mistake (didn't check the stock footage properly) but at least admit the mistake. This implies they think there is nothing is wrong in this practice

DeadlyFire3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Can we push a false advertising lawsuit on them now? It would be funny to do so and win I believe.

LetoAtreides823820d ago

Could be done. MS would just delete the video.

Kayant3820d ago

At first I was going to give them a pass but then I remembered they also had a trailer at the tournament yesterday but with the in-game UI (Pc footage) taken out yet in this promo vid they feel the need to keep it... Hmmmm....

Mike134nl3820d ago

It is deceiving using the pc content for the promo of the battlefield tournament. That said it was a promo of for streaming event of a battlefield tournament which was being played on xb1 consoles.
That said people who watched the tournament on their xb30 or pc were shown a live stream of battlefield being played on xb1. As a european I find it a shame europe lost.

Studio-YaMi3820d ago

I can't believe how simply he puts it,it's like he's saying :

"well yeah it's older youtube footage of the PC version but we didn't have time to make a brand new one with the XboxOne version SOOOO we are going to fool some"loyalists" by slamming the XboxOne logo onto it & saying it's XboxOne footage."

And you will STILL find some people who will defend them,just .. WOW!

GarrusVakarian3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Yeah, it's shocking that people will STILL defend him and MS. Its like...what do they have to do to you for you to realise how deceptive they are?

The way you put it is perfect btw, that's basically how that comment comes across to everyone but the loyalists.

Im so glad that we don't have to be a fan of MS in order to buy their console, because that would be mean i would never own an X1. How people can defend this company after all they have done and continue to do is beyond my understanding.

IcicleTrepan3820d ago

They could have put text at the bottom saying 'pc version shown due to NDA' or something short like that to at least tell you what you're seeing. But you are right, it was dishonest. That being said I don't think Albert Penello would have been the one that made this decision and it probably came from above him, although now he is defending it.

BOLO3820d ago

It's no use...Xbot's defended them when DRM was introduced...So you better believe they will defend them now until DRM is re-introduced...Stockholm syndrome at its finest.

KnightRobby3820d ago

Oh dead lord. I have no idea why MS is so effed up. But believe it or not, I sort of understand it...sort of.

In fact, they probably had to use PC footage because the advertisement was probably made during the development process for the BF4...And by the way, all launch games for both consoles are being rushed out the door. They are all going to look great, play great, but believe it or not, they are mostly ports. Meaning they are going to look terrible to the true next-gen versions without the constraints of the current-gen.

Right now everything is in flux. MS is still making mistakes though, but after watching the ACTUAL livestream the game looks great on the Xbox One. And honestly, beyond shitty marketing, the games looking and playing great is what matters here.

And by the way, it looks great on the PS4 too!

C0LLAT3820d ago

That my friend, by no means makes it ok... this is just defending why I will be going from Xbox360 to PlayStation 4. You just cant trust them.

Plain and simple.

the only people defending them are the people that have invested 7+ years of time getting achievements, and gaining Gamerscore.

these people I call xbots. Xbots will eventually be programmed to destroy the world and lye about everything.

get away from the ONE while you still can!!! lol

KnightRobby3820d ago

I'm actually going to end up getting both consoles. The PS4 and the Xbox One. Sony has done a superb job communicating with the community and offering features that, ya know, makes sense.

What I'm looking forward to is Titanfall (don't have the PC to run it, don't suggest it!), Halo 4, Forza Horizon 2...but I am equally anticipating The Order 1886 and especially Uncharted 4. Facts are I like them both.

Honestly, you're right. They should've recorded damn Xbox One footage. It just seems time and time again Microsoft just knows how to make you mad more than anything else. Such a disappointment. The fools.

C0LLAT3820d ago

Its called: false advertising.

Infamous2983820d ago

@Lalanana you are the closed minded here, worshipping a company who keep f*cking you in the ass and it keep spreading lies which only xbots like you believe in, seriously, xbots are the worst breed of fanboys, they even try to convince you that a piece of sh*t is better than PS4 smh.

3-4-53820d ago

This is the problem with companies in America. Guys like this never take responsibility for their actions and ignore or pass the blame.

They hire other people like them, and then you get whole companies ran by people who don't really know what they are doing.

Sure they can maintain current...but to progress the company they fail; every time.

They don't understand the technology or the product they are pushing or the market they are pushing it on.

Soc53820d ago

Poor Penello
Just quit dude, I know you're doing your job but is it worth it?
You're ruining your cred. You might want to do what Mattrick did and leave that sinking ship.

deecee333820d ago

We wouldn't be having any discussion about the footage in the video if BF4 on the XB1 had performed up to everyone's expectations, I.e. shipped at the same resolution as the PS4 version. People would have written it off and forgiven them in that case- that's what I think the root issue is here.

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bomboclaat_gamer3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

nice guys
keep promoting sony's PS4 (edit i meant ps4) whatever

free advertising...its like sony is paying you guys or something

i never understand brand loyalty

GarrusVakarian3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Lol, what? PS3?

Guess what? This is news for gamers and this is gaming news. Brand loyalty has nothing to do with it. If something happens in the industry that is worthy of posting on this website then it will be posted....simple as.

If the majority of Microsoft news that gets posted is negative news then that is no ones fault but Microsofts. What do you expect us to do....make up positive news just to balance things out?

stage883820d ago

They still put the xbox logo in the top corner to make it look like it was xbox footage.

Shameful.

smoothop3820d ago

Loads of games are advertised this way, Uncharted 3 was running at 60fps and at higher resolution in its trailers. The problem is people just being idiots because they don't like MS.

GarrusVakarian3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Uncharted 3 trailers would have been at 30fps (the max YouTube allows). The game is 30fps....so there is no deception there.

Nothing to do with "not liking MS", its news that people need to see. People are buying products from this company so i feel its important they know what kind of people they are dealing with.....people that think deceiving their customers is not a bad thing.

Codey473820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

There's a reason why I hate M$
and it's been embroiled in me....way before M$ even got into the console market.

You call it idiocy
I call it being bent over a table and royally shafted.....on many occasions and obviously by M$

smoothop3820d ago

People will blow up anything into a big situation if it is related to Xbox One, just get over the fact that some people want Xbox One its not the end of the world.

stage883820d ago

What's that got to do with anything?

MS have clearly misled and deceived people with this footage.

GarrusVakarian3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

This is NOTHING to do with people wanting an X1......I want an X1 but i still posted this news.

And in my opinion, acting like there is nothing wrong with putting an Xbox logo over PC footage is a "big situation" for a company that already has a damaged rep/image from negative news from most of 2013.

stuna13820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Your comment is a prime example of the saying! "You can't see the forest for the trees"! The fact that Microsoft has continuously been able to fool the masses, makes me wonder if this is truly the "Secret Sauce" that the Xbox1 is reported to have, "Instant Mind Control"? Because I have to say it! Some of Microsoft's supporters act as if they are brain dead.

3-4-53820d ago

I think people don't care if you want an XB1....they just want to inform you so you aren't shocked and mad when you realize you've been screwed.

It will happen at some point. As a current xbox and xbox 360 owner, I have been screwed my Microsoft before. We all have at some point.

I've always had a lot of great experiences because of Microsoft via PC OS and Xbox gaming.

They aren't all bad, but they still think they are smarter than they actually are.

They think they are at a 96/100 but really they are about 82/100

BOLO3820d ago

M$FT and Xbox One blow themselves up...No help needed from the rest of the gaming community. It is however just fascinating the level of defense mechanism activation you Xbot's seem to give at M$FT for any form of A. Deception, B. Excuses, C. Greed, and D. PR stealth speak they are fairly accused of quite often.

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jackdaddy3820d ago

More lies and deception from the Kings of lies and deceit. Glad we have @yosp in charge.

VonBraunschweigg3820d ago

Among thieves, Microsoft's deception is all about making a fortune untill the last of us runs out of money.

Studio-YaMi3820d ago

I see what you did there..!

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 8h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga11h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde14h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 6h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 6h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 5h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 10h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 7h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy852d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted2d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere2d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook71d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy851d 23h ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga1d 23h ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher1d 9h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble1d 4h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike1d 22h ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv721d 12h ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

BoneMagnus1d 11h ago

@darth - Nice collection!

crazyCoconuts1d 6h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire1d 11h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga1d 9h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk1d 18h ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7211d 13h ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty1d 6h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds1d 16h ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx121d 16h ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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