Mark Rubin confirms Call of Duty: Ghosts is 720p on Xbox One and 1080p on PS4

Mark Rubin: "Hey, been on the road last couple weeks so haven’t had a chance to update, but wanted to confirm that for Xbox One we’re 1080p upscaled from 720p. And, we’re native 1080p on PS4. We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS and the game looks great on both. Still on the road, but glad to see the great reception to Extinction. Can’t wait for next week’s launch."

[PlayStation_4]

Upscaled to 1080p... Sad news for Xbox fans!

Same with BF4 too, PS4 version has 56% more pixels on BF4 (native 1280 x 720 on X1 vs. 1600 x 900 on PS4).

[GarrusVakarian]

1080p native on PS4 and 720p on X1? Next gen hasn't even started yet and already the gap is noticeable.This has really surprised me, CoD Ghosts isn't even that impressive graphically!

Really good to see that devs are using the extra power of the PS4 and not aiming for parity.

[pyramidshead]

Lmfao. "only rumours!" "Sonygaf spreading FUD!". Maybe some of you will take rumours that start there a little more serious now aye? :P. This will sting for people who accuse Neogaf for making up rumours on the go.

But my my... come on now.. many sources confirmed this, even journalists for god sake. Even if some of you didn't want it to be true.

At least it's upscaled though.

Get ready for a botched up Digital Foundry comparison to down play the PS4 version too(dat washed out blur). Looking forward to that high contrast, crushed black and dialed up sharpness on the XB1 version.

[Robearboy]

Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly

[Eonjay]

I don't believe it. Its just as the laws of physics predicted. More powerful hardware will in fact produce higher fidelity visuals.

[JimmyLmao]

http://a.disquscdn.com/uplo...

[xHeavYx]

First Battlefield and now this? It can only get better as developers get more time on the PS4

[JokesOnYou]

Well its a no buy for me because they either rushed it or just didnt put alot of effort into it. The game is not graphically demanding so theres no way it shouldnt be 1080p on X1 when there are other games that can with better graphics.

Sounds like a launch window rushed port to make a buck. Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish, they just didn't have proper time with the final hardware and instead pushing it back, they rather keep the launch date purely for financial reasons.

Also enough with the lying, sure he may have been on the road but he sure as hell saw all the resolution fuss, just waiting closer to release for damage control, also isnt this the same guy boasting before about 1080p on X1?
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed.

[jatakk]

I'm actually a bit shocked, 720p on f-ing C O D! I didn't really believe the Neogaf rumours, but now I'll eat my hat!!

Time to consider cancelling my XB1 preorder.....

[Enemy]

TitanFall is 720p too, even with those COD graphics.

[Sci0n]

its easier to develope for now so they have no excuses. With the PS4's power now compared to the one we should see a even larger gap between multiplatforms performance.

[pedrof93]

Enemy@

Not COD graphics, apparently they used Source engine, so CS graphics.

[Eonjay]

@Jokes:

Just stop and think... if your plan is to only support developers that can get games to run in 1080p on Xbox One, you aren't going to own very many games.

Either be greatful that Microsoft is allowing you to play on yesterday's tech or get a PS4.

[Game-ur]

If the BF4 and CoD reports turnd out to be true then we should start worrying about the X1 OS crash reports and frequent online disconnections, they come from the same sources, cancelling my pre-order till they sort things out.

[christrules0041]

@Robearboy
The difference is that developers use X86 architecture for PC already. Because they already use it for PC means they can squeeze out a lot more power of the consoles already compared to last gen. The developers can learn to optomize better but it isn't going to make a huge improvement like we saw with the PS3.

Just a comparison:
Lets say a welder is used to doing mig welding. His company gives him a special project to use a arc weld for some reason. Because it's different he has to get his technique down so it improves a lot over time. Then the company buys him a new mig welding machine. He already knows the basics and how to get lots out of it. He can get a bit better but he won't improve durastically because he already knows how to get lots out of the machine.

[thereapersson]

Eonjay, well it's the same logic as those who said they'd only buy exclusives on the PS3 because only PS3 exclusive developers know how to get the most out of the PS3. At least with the PS3 if you go that route, however, you still have a good chance at obtaining a solid gaming library due to Sony have a plethora of franchises and developers to rely on.

[Bennibop]

The cloud seem to be improving the xbox then!

[johndoe11211]

@jokesonyou

If it was a situation of it being rushed then it wouldn't be 1080p on the ps4 either.

Listen, I'm not saying that the xbox one can't run it at 1080p, apart from the fact that every one and their mother knows that the ps4 is a more powerful system , there has to be a reason other than "they didn't put any effort into it".

The ps3 cell and the xbox esram are two completely different things. The cell was never before seen tech, esram has been out for years. I know that it will take time for the devs to fully utilize it but to say that this game can't do 1080p on the xbox one because of 32mb of esram is absurd.

Microsoft has created a poor system, that does not deserve the title nextgen, regardless of how people may want to spin that fact it is becoming more and more obvious daily.

This is the consequence for loosing focus and trying to be a damn media box instead of a gaming system that can do media, e.g. ps4.

By your system, enjoy it, it will have great games and you should be happy about that but do not bash sony because they focused on a gaming system that is obviously going to rip the xbox one a new one when it comes to gaming performance. Blame microsoft for that.

[darthv72]

the tv i game on is native 720p so i wont really notice a difference between the two. then again, COD isnt about the look its about the gameplay and fun with friends.

both platforms will be a hit among the fans that play it regardless of the specs.

[Brix90]

@JokesOnYou

"Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish"

Guess Mark Rubin is foolish then lol..Come on bro not even Crytek which is known for they graphics can get 1080p on X1. Your excuses are weak, now its rushed so I guess PS4 was rushed too and hit 1080 no problem...

Guess you can enjoy those cloud servers though...

[805Junior805]

@JokesOnYou
If they rushed it, than why is 1080p on ps4? And Activision and COD is in MS pocket? How does that make sense? Also, MS threw money at EA for BF and still lower res than PS4. Get used to not buying games for your XboxOne since all the games on there are "rushed" but not rushed on PS4. :)

[GarrusVakarian]

@Jokes on you

Mark Rubin CONFIRMS it to run at 720p on X1 but STILL you deny it and call it a lie?

Wow....seriously,wow.

[esemce]

This does not bode well for the Xbone, we have all seen how basic COD ghosts looks yet it cannot run at 1080@60fps.

You could almost forgive it for the BF4 specs as frostbite 3 is next gen but the COD engine certainly is not.

All the money MS has and they have penny pinched the GPU/CPU in favour of Kinect and buying the exclusivity of third party titles.

So glad I cancelled my Xbone pre order and kept the PS4.

[BX81]

I think it's a mix of devs not knowing how to optimize the hardware and hardware made hard to dev for. Either way the system can do 1080p native. To be honest even the next cod looks this gen so I'm not stressing over 720 up scaled.

[Brix90]

@JokesOnYou

"I will happily play any good game at 720p"

Don't have to much of choice do you...lol

No need to try harder when you make it easy lol

[hakeem0996]

As far as hardware goes the Xbox One and the PS4 are not that far apart so software must be an issue for all these downgraded games .It's like the Xbox One became the PS3 .MS needs to rewrite their codes in order to catch up .Titanfall better be native 1080p other games are hitting that mark so it's not impossible .

[nypifisel]

This rather proves it's not as much about GPU prowess and more about that terribly sized ESRAM. 32mb is too small for deferred rendering in any higher resolutions (Cause Xbox One really should be able to play crappy COD just fine if it weren't for the bottleneck ESRAM)

[Cernunnos]

Not only is the gap noticeable, it's HUGE! It's running at twice the amount of pixels.

[ThunderSpark]

Why does someone like "Jokesonyou" have so many bubbles when he continuously spews lies?? The PS4 is obviously the stronger hardware and the multiplats are proving that. I took off my fanboy goggles and as a xbox fan, even I can see the truth.

[ziggurcat]

@ jokes:

if this isn't a sign of the weakness of the xbone hardware compared to the PS4, i don't know what is... and the fact that it's CoD (which isn't the most graphically taxing game coming out) is an even bigger kick to the groin.

[ThunderSpark]

@jokesonyou:

Bro, just stop. Your fanboyism is starting to look really bad.

[Reverent]

In regards to JokesOnYou, there really needs to be a down bubble option for "Lying".

Of course then he wouldn't have any bubbles...

[Baka-akaB]

Everyone just know you always have an answer and excuse , whatever happens .

You are told something ? It's a lie

Said "lie" actually proves to be the truth ? They dont know how to use the hardware .

When you dont conveniently stealth edit your first post to twist your original argument .

My post wont stop you , you're in deep involved in your trolling process , either for the lulz of it or religious fervor . I truly hope for you as a human being that you are not that serious , you and your link minded acolytes , and just doing it for fun on your spare time . Anyway enjoy your day and upcoming console

[Studio-YaMi]

Some people are still in denial,I know "JokesOnYou" is at least.

You can't reason with a fanboy,no matter how rational you can be,he will still try HARD to convince himself that his "stuff" is the most powerful in the universe.

So now it's a difficulty in programming or devs being lazy? wasn't that the same excuse Sony fans were making last gen with the PS3? and what did Xbox fanboys do? ..yeah,figures!

The tables are turned this gen Xbox Fanboys,if you can't deal with the heat,don't make stupid excuses or run your mouth wildly,the truth of the matter is,PS4 is more powerful than the XboxOne,end of story.

PC is still the most powerful though,that nobody can argue about that at least.

PC + PS4&WiiU(both for fantastic exclusives) are the way to go next gen(if you have the money I mean).

Now simmer down everyone,the battle is likely over,for the first year at least.

Xbox fans,you can thank the "multimedia" for this,Microsoft wants to push sooo much with the XboxOne that it backfired on what is more important for a console .. GAMING!

Have a nice night/day everyone.

[jackdaddy]

As far as I can see, Microsoft is screwing over it's customers by trading this off as next gen. Their core consumers are CoD players who are being offered a sub-standard product and i can't see how you recover from that.

[JokesOnYou]

Last words on this thread. No need to PM me hate mail, not even going to read it from the usual suspects...say whatever you like in the comments then Ill read it. Its not going to make me silent or believe the hive-mind.

[malokevi]

I'm definitely getting the PS4 version of COD, then. Bummer, and somewhat perplexing. I had figured that COD should be able to run at 1080p, considering nicer looking games are running at higher res on XB1.

I'm inclined to blame the developers, or possibly hard-to-use architecture... but I would love a no-nonsense explanation from Microsoft. Give it to me straight.

I guess in 3 weeks devs will be free to tell us what the deal is.

[ProjectVulcan]

Well technically 1080p isn't 50 percent more than 720p. PS4 has a 56 percent battlefield 4 resolution lead. But this.....wow. This is something else.

Its a 125 percent increase.

One Hundred and Twenty Five.

That is absolutely enormous. It actually shouldn't be that large really. Xbox one should do better based on the disparity in specs.

What it really suggests to me is that Infinity Ward struggled here to get their engine working properly on Xbox one.

PS4 should always really win but this isn't a 50 or 60 odd percent win you would expect, its a total massacre. Ouch.

[I_am_Batman]

I think it might have something to do with Xbox One's EsRAM. If you look at the system requirements for PC it needs a minimum of 6GB for whatever reason (BF4 only needs 4GB minimum). Maybe that's why the Xbox One version has such a low resolution.

Don't get me wrong with the stronger hardware and it's dev friendly architecture I was expecting the PS4 to technically have the superior versions of multiplatform games from day one but 1080p to 720p seems too big of a difference when we assume that effects, details and framerate are identical.

[Computersaysno]

Hell, Wii U fancies its chances at 720p on this game!

Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U

Call an ambulance for Xbox One because its taking a proper beating before its even launched!

[XisThatKid]

For those that missed this nonsense here it goes again.
----
Robearboy
"Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly"
----
I LOLed repeating it.

[ziggurcat]

@ jokes:

"ziggurcat you basicly explained exactly why your own theory is flawed"

not sure how it was flawed. if CoD isn't that taxing, then why isn't it 1080p on xbone? there's two possible answers here:

a) it's telling of xbone's actual power, and any corner cutting was the result of weaker hardware.

or (and this is the more hopeful answer)

b) IW just really sucks at making games.

however, it makes no logical sense that the xbone version would have been "rushed" - especially when it had a pretty significant spot during the xbone reveal back in May - compared to the PS4 version... unless the PS4 really is that much faster/easier to develop on or the PS4 really is 50% more powerful as the specs on paper suggest (and we don't even know the PS4's CPU clock speed, either...).

[AdventurerDonLocke]

@JokesOnYou

It time to give up on this facade. We know you are an MS Reputation Manager and not a "gamer". It's time to give up on this alt and make another. At least that will buy you some time as we try to figure the next one (probably not long btw).

[amiga-man]

Can somebody pass this information to Albert Panello apparently he doesn't know.

[MazzingerZ]

MSFT was REALLY aiming to the TV box all the time, obviously you can't perform a 180 when it comes to HW and this is the result

I even feel like getting COD (haven't purchased one since COD3 LOL) just to show publishers and devs that we PS4 owners will reward a game taking advantage of the HW we invested in, really guys, Activision and EA knows which is the larger installbase from day one and they don't want to piss them off, I applaud that!!

[ThanatosDMC]

Meh, it's CoD anyway... what are they gonna say about Xbone that Fish AI took too much computing power???

[ZombieKiller]

Reaper youre right. This game is played by casuals for the most part. So who cares about 720 vs 1080p?

I'm just glad to see that PS is getting at least a LITTLE bit of love from Call Of Duty. I feel like they treat the PS brand like a red-headed step child that nobody wants, which could not be further from the truth.

[Jazz4108]

called zero optimization on xboxone and a rush job on ms drivers. Things will improve for both next batch I hope.

[FamilyGuy]

A lot of the comments from you guys are hilarious but I'm not really one to bash for the sake of bashing. The significance of this announcement to me is the solace in knowing that they aren't forcing parity.

I'm freakin ecstatic that with this and BF4 both having different resolutions between the PS4 and X1 version it means the devs aren't caving in to "gaming politics" and actually putting out the games in a form the respective hardware can handle. I was concerned about this for months and have been very vocal about it since the first mention of a possible push towards parity.

I say good job EA and Activision for not letting MSs systems shortcomings be forced on Sony gamers.

With this rumor being true I am now a bit concerned with the other negative rumors that have surfaced from NeoGaf recently. Their validity just went up a notch as they were right about cod, bf and even the driveclub delay.

[MysticStrummer]

@Jokes - "Well its a no buy for me because they either rushed it or just didnt put alot of effort into it. The game is not graphically demanding so theres no way it shouldnt be 1080p on X1"

I guess you won't be buying Titanfall either then, but there is a way that makes the difference in resolution explainable, and that's a difference in power. Higher res, better AA, better lighting... if it was a rushed game issue than PS4 wouldn't have these advantages.

@Robear - "Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly"

People really need to stop pretending ESRAM is comparable to the Cell in terms of complexity issues. There will be improvement just like there was with the Cell, but the improvement will not be to the same degree.

[ABizzel1]

@eonjay

LAMO, ULTIMATE BURN.

Getting on topic, I know it seems hard to believe that COD is only running at 720p on XBO, but it really depends on what all they're throwing into COD Ghost. Using Black Ops 2, as an example it can really pound GPU's depending on the AA.

Look at these settings
Mid
http://www.tomshardware.com...
High
http://www.tomshardware.com...

An XBO GPU based on that PC should run BO2 in 1080p, 60fps, 2xMSAA (DEMANDING AA), AO, FXAA, with Medium - High settings

An equivalent PS4 GPU based on that PC should run BO2 in 1080p, 50fps, 8xMSAA (DEMANDING AA), with High settings.

I say "based on that PC" because while the PS4 and XBO have faster RAM, the PC has 1GB of GDDR5 at 96GB/s (which represents the XBO, but XBO has faster RAM than that), and 2GB of GDDR5 153GB/s (which represents the PS4, but PS4 has faster RAM than that). However, the PC has 16GB of DDR3 and a much better CPU.

My guess is the game is 1080p, Ultra settings, 4xAA, and the PS4 can run that easily at 60fps; however, the XBO is going to to struggle, and to get the game flawlessly locked at 60fps they dropped the resolution down to 720p. That's the only explanation I have regarding the resolution, and I'm sure with more time they could have moved it up to 900p, but that's what happens with launch titles.

[Autodidactdystopia]

I am now completely at a loss for words, where on earth does Microsoft get off selling this machine that is clearly clearly falling WAY short of the competition for $500 an extra $100 for a slower system.

This doesn't add up ms needs to drop the price to $400 if not $350 or they are gonna lose their market.

They always say you get what you pay for, clearly this is not the case.

what are they doing? really can someone explain this to me.

[morganfell]

It is utterly ridiculous to equate the Cell with ESRAM. The desperation is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

While you are asking Rubin about 1080p maybe you should ask EA about the X1 stage demo of BF4.

And it is CAPICHE. I know by the time you typed that anger had the better of you but if you are going to ask someone if they understand and choose to do so via Italian slang (Italian - capisci) do not make your question about said understanding more difficult to comprehend.

[sinjonezp]

Want to know something that is funny. Multi platform games ran better on Dreamcast compared to ps2. Games ran better on Xbox over ps2. And Xbox 360 games ran better than ps3. Dreamcast failed, Xbox was a gooD system but couldn't even sneeze at the ps2. The ps3 over time became the system of choice. So who is to say the xbone cannot achieve success? Yes the ps4 is more powerful and I will be getting one. But I will not dog the xbone just cuz of cod and bf4. It is sad to see that the resolutions of these games are the same as current gen and in this day and age, gamers want the best possible experience. The xbone will do fine and their is an audience for that system. I am a gamer and next year everything will be 1080p.

[SilentNegotiator]

You mean that Microsoft and the gang were apprehensive to tell the resolution because it's embarrassingly low? Oh I'm so surprised! /s

The semantics are so predictable.

Woah! Jokes got a "trolling" mark instead of an automatic "Well said" for 10 times as many disagrees as agrees?! Are his other accounts broken, or did his mod pal go on vacation??

[Magicite]

Vote for NO Parity!

[AceBlazer13]

@Jokes if your gonna skip every game that doesn't hit 1080p you'll have a very empty xbone collection. killer instinct isn't even hitting it.

[MiHX2]

@Robearboy ESRAM is really hard to use.

[nosferatuzodd]

thats why microsot buy out titan fall they need a advantage cuz they have none

[AsimLeonheart]

Xbone: Dat cloud powered balance!

[abzdine]

Guess who's behind this. Make some room for the boss:
http://abload.de/img/vylvmr...

[Kryptix]

This further confirms that the Xbox One is a rushed console if it can only run a CoD game at 720p native.

We all knew that, well, except the Xbots and I really think a bunch of them will play Xbox Defense Force 2013 to deny this when it has been confirmed.

Wonder what MisterX is thinking right now?

MisterX: Everybody knows less pixels means sharper textures. Ghosts Xbox One version is the best.

...I hope the Xbots eat it up again.

And they do.

[FamilyGuy]

Lol, I checked out that misterx blog recently and the stuff they come up with is just plain ridiculous. You'd think it was all meant as a joke, one enormous list of sarcasm but no. Him and his followers are boarder line insane.

[avengers1978]

@ jokesonyou what games run 1080p on the XB1?

[Kleptic]

this is unfortunate...and confirms one of the biggest problems i had with the hardware when the consoles were announced...

2005-2012 Xbox 360 600/60fps in every CoD

2013 Xbox One 720/60fps ...in at least the first one...with freaking identical visuals...

I can't believe anyone would find this acceptable...for a $500 brand new machine that is outperformed by 2 year old mid range gpu's...its unbelievable to me, ESPECIALLY in a game as visually unimpressive as Ghosts...

So i guess the ps4 'wins', if you could call it that...even on PS4, ghosts looks like a dated mess...I'm just blown away that they couldn't get the xbox one to run a last generation game at a higher native resolution...

[Boody-Bandit]

Final straw for me. I've been on the fence being that I'm a huge Forza fan. I am constantly looking for a hint of anything to purchase an XBOX ONE just to play that one game. But COD @720p is simply unacceptable.

$100 more, less power, proprietary hardware (no existing 360 peripherals compatible with X1) and less value for their online service vs their direct competitor.

All signs point to MS was not initially going to release their new hardware this year. Everything about this hardware seems very rushed. Been there, done that with the 360. I'm not taken that ride again. The money I'm saving not getting an X1 will go to more games for the PS4.

[GarrusVakarian]

@JokesOnYou

"-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed."

That same eurogamer link? The one that DOESN'T have the developer saying that Call Of Duty is running at 1080p on the X1? Everyone says "IW said its runs at 1080p" but if you actually take the time to read it properly you will notice the only person who says its runs at 1080p is the author of the article, he says "Call Of Duty ghosts will run at 1080p on the X1, IW confirms" but IW doesn't mention 1080p at all in the entire article.

Funny how you tell me that i need to improve my reading skills but you lack the reading skills to tell the difference between a developer saying something and an author of an article saying that the developer said something.

[MajorLazer]

I am genuinely surprised! I knew that the X1 was underpowered but not by this much. Next gen has just started and already a difference, and a graphically lackluster game like CoD too

[Drekken]

I usually mark JOY's comments as "immature" because there isn't a "Full of S**t" option. He isn't really trolling because he believes the BS he types.

He thinks he gets disagrees because of reading comprehension. He gets disagrees because he is an obvious company shill that talks a bunch of BS and expects people to believe it.

I throw my vote in for a "Lying" option when downvoting. Most of the time I push the bubble down option it is because of lies.

[Maddens Raiders]

50% Stronger
$100USD Cheaper.

And these differences are at launch, imagine the difference in graphical fidelity 3 - 5 years from now (or sooner).

[Manic2014]

I don't think its got to do with the power but how difficult it is to develop for, most likely, in 5 years time both will have even better visuals and the PS4 will have a slight edge with the power but the differences wont be as big as its being put by fans......

[Death]

Seems kind of short sighted, no? More difficult to program for PS3 took years to get as good as the inferior Xbox 360. Today the Xbox One is the more difficult platform due to eSram/DDR3. If the PS4 is as simple as devs say, wouldn't logic dictate the Xbox One will see a bigger performance increase than the PS4? How is it the PS4 can only get better and the Xbox One will stand still or get worse?

[DevilishSix]

Lets call a spade a spade and stop acting like the X1 architecture is so much different from the 360, cause it's not. Each have a small ERAM buffer. Problem is that MS failed to increase the size The EDRAM is 32mb in the 360 and the X1 has 32mb of ESRAM. IT was fine for 360 but its to small for X1 it should have at least been 42 mb and should have been 56mb. MS screwed up. Thank the now gone Don Mattrick for that one. It is what it is, its to small a frame buffer for true 1080p visuals and thus the added upscaler in X1, but at the end of the day they screwed up. If they planned this then they went the super cheap route.

[HighResHero]

People are going to be shocked and amazed when they see what some of Sony's first party studios are working on for the PS4.
I don't care much about COD res but this could be a sign of good things to come for PS fans.
PS4 is clearly powerful and easy to develop for which should give us games with not only great graphics, but great gameplay, and more.
Looks like XB marketing division might have their work cut out for them.

[Death]

Call a spade a spade? The Xbox 360 and PS3 were PowerPC based (Risc). Sure, the devs were used to the eDram, but not eSram and a completely different architecture. The tools used on the previous console are not applicable to x86 so none of them ported over. Now everything is written very much like PC games with the exception of the PS4 using GDDR5 for CPU functions and the Xbox One using eSram to increase the speed of the DDR3 for GPU functions.

[johndoe11211]

@ MMEHTA

You are living in a fantasy world. The ps4 hardware is already way ahead of the xbox hardware and that's without devs taking advantage of its optimizations.

When devs begin to max out both systems there will be a very noticeable difference in games. People seem to think that it's only the xbox that has hidden potential. They both have hidden potential but xbox has it on much weaker hardware.

[VonBraunschweigg]

Nah Death, PS3 was superior yet harder to program for, X1 is inferior and harder to program for. PS3 games started to outshine 360 games by 2008-2009 (MGS4, WipEout HD, Uncharted 2), X1 games probably won't. Inferior can't become superior no matter how much money you throw at it.

Coming gen even the multiplats will show this, day one by the looks of it. Of course there will be improvements on both platforms through the years, but the gap will probably grow wider.

[DevilishSix]

Death the best analogy I can use is a water hose. The 32mb buffer was fine and maintained a steady stream flowing thru it on 360. The X1 has turned the water pressure up but has not increased the hose (32mb buffer) to allow the stream to flow properly and at an optimal rate. Thats the easiest way I can put it bro.

[BX81]

@ maddens raiders let's be honest it's only cheaper because it's not bundled with the ps camera.

Ps. Oakland is the best b!tches

[CryofSilence]

@Death

32 MB of ESRAM will not balance the disparity between the consoles. The PS4 holds a 600 gigaFLOPS advantage over the Xbox One (for perspective, my 520 GigaFLOPS GPU in my 3 year old laptop can run Battlefield 3 at high settings reasonably well). Here are the other advantages: 384 more GPU cores (1.5x), 16 more ROPS (2x), 6 more compute units (1.5x), and so on. There is no way at all that a slightly higher theoretical* RAM bandwidth will offset that. It's just not physically possible.

Source:
http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....

[johndoe11211]

@BX81

The ps4 is $400 without camera, the xbox one is $500 with camera. The ps4 camera is $60.

Now, doing basic math that would mean if you add the cost of the ps4 camera($60) and the ps4($400), that would give you $460. so that would mean the ps4 bundled witth the camera would be $460 and the xbox one would still be $500.

Could you explain what mathematical formulas you used to deduce that with the camera bundled the ps4 would have been the same price or more than the xbox one?

[mistertwoturbo]

^Excellent points CryofSilence.

The biggest pitfall of the Xbone will ALWAYS be the GPU. Even if it had GDDR5 like the PS4, it won't matter since the GPU is weaker. It has NOTHING to do with how the system uses RAM. However, it's even more saddening on top of the weaker GPU, it uses slower DDR3 and that bottleneck 32mb of ESRAM (fast, but severely limited in size.)

While on the PS4 end, developers are having a field day with that big gigantic pool of fast GDDR5 RAM 5-8GB (whatever it is) without the limitations of that small frame buffer, coupled with a more powerful GPU (think HD7870).

The specifications of both systems told anybody with any sort of computer knowledge that the PS4 is more powerful.

In 2-3 years time it won't matter, it will always be the same.

[BX81]

@ johndoe I can only assume since the 1st kinect was more than $100, the next kinect will at least be $100 at launch. Thus the $100 extra or maybe more depending how MS sees it. I personally would like a kinect less bundle but I'll pay an extra $100 for some extra features. Here's is the way I look at it. All these people saying the ps4 is only $400 don't get the camera, and that's ok. Sony doesn't believe in their camera as much as ms does. Who knows where it'll go. He'll Sony pushed 3d gaming hard as hell I don't hear a peep about it now. I pay $500 for xo because I can afford it and I prefer the online on Xbox live over psn. Things can change, just like Sony charging to play online. Idk how many times I read about Sony gamers thinking it was stupid to pay to use ur net you already pay for just to get online. Either way that's my long ass response. I'm getting both consoles. Walmart is saying delivery for both consoles by x mas if anyone is interested.

Also I'm not saying the ps4 w camera is $500 I'm saying the Xbox without camera is $400 or less.

[abzdine]

just at VGAs with some world premiere gameplay of The Order or Uncharted teaser.

[UncleGermrod]

yes and no on this one. the gap will be there, but won't both systems get better with time?

[Kleptic]

yeah, i'm not a developer...but whats pretty much unanimously agreed upon is both the ps4 and xbox one are mostly gpu bottlenecked...which is saying something, considering the PS4's is very clearly a more powerful unit...

and this all makes sense now when you go back through the initial announcements...the first penciled in specs of the ps4 were to only use 4gb of ram...from a cost vs. performance balance standpoint...that makes sense...the designers felt 4gb was all it really needed...however, the OS ended up growing to the point where it ate up a lot of that 4gb pool...and devs complained...Sony listened...its very likely MS went through a similar situation...

but on the other side...the gpu's weren't changed...which weren't all that memory starved to begin with...the xbox one's theoretical specific use memory bandwidth benefits doesn't amount to anything...you can store all kinds of instructions in ram as long as you want, but it doesn't matter when a cpu and/or gpu can't read it fast enough to begin with...which is seemingly exactly whats happening...

and thats the other side...both machines use cpu's that, literally, have more in common with high end smart phones than dedicated gaming devices...yet another reason that memory bandwidth is something both systems have to spare...concrete per core processing speed and gpu output are whats limited

[Sitdown]

Why sad news? Does the upscale mean they will be unable to enjoy it?

[PlayStation_4]

Not at all, but they will not have the same experience as PS4 users

[Xwow2008]

It means u pay 100$ more for an inferior machine.
This is 2013 ffs how can a game like cod run in 720p in nextgen console.

[TKCMuzzer]

I struggle to enjoy COD no matter the resolution, some of the things that go on in that game fry my head.

[TheBrit]

Of course they will have the same experience.
If this was a slower paced adventure game like oblivion I agree but for heavens sakes you don't get that much time to oooh and ahhhh over the graphics when your actually playing the game unless you like to stop still in the middle of fire fights to look around.

The "Experience" as you put it wont change, playing this game your not going to notice the subtle details between 1080p up-scaled and 1080p native as your flying around the screen trying not to get shot.

[Death]

@TheBrit,

Exactly. I don't see many Xbox One gamers feeling sad that they are playing 1080p upscaled and not native. The game experience will not change from resolution, it is impacted by how we interact/control the game and by the people we play with. It's weird that some PS4 fans think resolution is key yet don't move to PC which is capable of much, much higher resolutions than the PS4 or Xbox One.

[VonBraunschweigg]

Nah Death, controls and people will be fine on both sides, but we're not talking about games here, we're talking videogames. Video, so resolution is important. Not key, important. In shooters, racers, consolewars:)

[vigilante_man]

Microsoft have built an amazing upscaler - and now we know why. They also want to upscale movies for 4K output and have included a 4k-compatible HDMI lead (smart move btw).

Games will look brighter than PS4 games because PS4 will have more depth and realistic textures. XB1 will have to brighten things up to disguise the disparity.

Both systems will be amazing compared to last gen. It is just a surprise that PS4 is now confirmed as the most powerful. It will take XB1 developers and system engineers 2-3 years to get to current PS4 standards. By that time PS4 will have become even more optimised.

Lets thank all devs for having the balls to go for it when we all thought they would not!

[MysticStrummer]

"Does the upscale mean they will be unable to enjoy it?"

Not at all. It's just early proof of the power difference that many on here claim doesn't exist.

@Death - "I don't see many Xbox One gamers feeling sad that they are playing 1080p upscaled and not native."

That's because most of them are 360 owners who are used to pretending that "1080p" on the back of the box actually means the game is 1080p.

[Ezz2013]

coming from the horse's mouth

and just like BF4
i said developers don't have any more excuses about ps4 since it's not hard to work with and have the best hardware
so multiplat games will look better on ps4

and as it seems ....i was right (again)
and once again CBOAT was right

but makes you wonder
this game don't look that good
why xbox can't hit 1080p native with it ?!

[LonDonE]

exactly, with so called next gen tech at the very least irrelevant of the esram, the cpu,nect gen gpgpu and 8gb of ddr3 ram should be more then enough to run cod at native 1080p!

And the PS3 situation was nothing like x1 esram situation, back then everyone knew PS3 was more powerfull! but with X1 everyone is knows its a fraud of a next gen console! granted when they get to grips with the esram performance will improve,but i doubt by much.

Time to wake up and smell the cofee guys,just remember even if developers get to grips with x1 what makes u think PS4 optimizations will just freeze? the devs will get better at using the PS4 strengths which everyone even microsoft know 30,40,50% power diiference? whatever it may be will show even more!
And take into account the GDDR5 ram bonuses and quickly any unbiased gamer will know PS4 is the horse to bet on this generation.

Sorry but already you can see the difference, the gap will only get wider as the gen goes on, as games become bigger,and more complex which is what always happens, the icing on the cake will be indeed the wiiu version turns out to be native 720p since wiiu and x1 share allot of design features, that will be like a 12 inch slap with nintendo's sausage in microsofts face! LMAO XBOX-720P

[vigilante_man]

Better to put great textures and effects into 720p than compromise just for the sake of 1080p. So the developers have done the best thing here.

A great smooth running game is what we all want. All this story does is prove what we all have really known for months.

[Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II]

Hey Jokes on you WERE HAVING A PARTY.

[Gazondaily]

That's just worrying. The X1 can't even run the mediocre looking COD:Ghosts at 1080p native? Wtf is going on?

I guess those rumours of ESRAM problems were true but to have this kind of discrepancy in resolutions at such an early stage of the console's release- I mean who anticipated that?

[Ezz2013]

same thing that was on my mind

[sigfredod]

This confirm what several devs are stating, the ESRAM is a bottleneck

[stuna1]

What really going to be the kicker is when it comes out that Forza is truly 720p, up scaled to 1080p! All these things give credence to the idea that the Xbox1 main focus was never really games to begin with, it was the media side they have been interested in. Right now their media side functions are operating in 1080p, they have 3 different OS, one that is supposedly heavily vested on the media side of the Xbox1. It wouldn't surprise me if their cloud service wasn't meant for the gaming side of the Xbox1, but for the media side of Xbox1.

Sure Microsoft are going to invest in games, but truthfully I think that's only to hold onto the fanbase they already have, and pick up some stragglers along the way.

[2cents]

What a balls-up this is.

How sad that people are judging MS against COD's lack of commitment to the platform. These are current gen games ported to run on the new gen. We all knew by the info that the PS4 is a joy to code on. The Xbox One is now the more complex platform, clearly due to the rushed and buggy SDK,s, sh1tty drivers and a general confusion from MS has led to this. But there is no stopping the powerhouses of BF and COD, cookie cutter games that rinse and repeat every year with hardly any deviation from the existing model.

As I said many months ago, I was never concerned about the capability of the PS4, but there is much doubt surrounding the state of affairs at MS. Unfortunately though, this news will be framed in gold and touted for the next few weeks as the definition of the coming generation. COD have effectively hammered the second nail into the Xbox Ones coffin (first from BF).

MS you put your faith in the wrong developers, who cares about exclusive content and early access to stuff when they know that they have an inferior product. You should have spent your money on more coders to get your SDK's and drivers finalised many moons ago so that these lazy devs could have actually made something special for you. Now your stuck with touting Forza as the only AAA 1080p game. Fools.

[bmx_bandit]

I don't get it.

I mean, the 360 is running CoD in 720p at 60fps already since years.

X1 should be at least 3-4 times stronger with 8GB RAM and a way more powerful GPU than the X360 from 2005.

Apart from fanboy-wars I simply don't get this 720p Stuff on the X1.
WTF is join on with the tools? Something is really wrong.

Comparisons between X1 and 360 will be really interesting.

[SuicideKing]

I'm seriously shocked that they couldn't even hit 900p. I didn't believe all the rumors, I had most of my games preordered for xbox, but that it's going to change. I may cancel my Xbox one pre-order all together until Titanfall. Well I'm sure ac4 isn't 1080 either on Xbox. I can't believe Xbox would put out such a weak console. Shocked and disgusted with them.

[Sevir]

Ok, 2Cents!!! Its not just COD that we are judging the console by its the fact that games this early in the life cycle where most should be striving for parity, you'd expect that the consoles, both of which are early platforms with learning curves, yet from the jump we see that even mediocre game engines cant even run at 1080p.

This is COD for crying out loud and the X1 is running this game at Last gen resolutions...?

and that's just that one, We've also got Battlefield which is far more impressively technically and Its still running at 720p on the X1... Killer Instinct, and Dead Rising 3.

Ryse runs at 900p...

The proof is in the putting!

[Gazondaily]

@Sevir

"The proof is in the putting!"

Pudding my friend....pudding. Horrible pudding laced with tears p_p

[CryofSilence]

@2Cents

You might want to consider that there may be more to it than bad drivers and development tools. The PS4 is undeniably more powerful, and no amount of ESRAM or cloud computing will offset that advantage. Note: this figure does not show the updated theoretical bandwidth limit of 204 gb/s for ESRAM; however, that is not nearly enough to balance it.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....

[T2]

Yet another cboat rumour confirmed while I was getting hate pms from xbots just for stating his track record was decent .....
So is there any doubt why the embargo for cod xbone is so close to release date?

[Sevir]

@Septic! LOL! Yeah I realized this and couldn't edit!

I've gotta say I'm Very shocked by this! This game which is doing less than BF4 cant even manage 1600x900.

This right here is one of the things that make you go "HMMM"

Have at it XBOX fans, You aren't playing a next gen game at all!

I was never getting the PS4 version of this game to begin with but It seems Developers simply aren't doing parity with multiplatforms...

Both EA/DICE and Activision/IW are in bed with MS, and the xbox one version of the games aren't even on technical parity with the PS4 version.

Mark Cerny was right! GDDR5 and a 1.84 TF GPU would do well, and that Devs would have no problems getting things to run!!!

[LonDonE]

@2cents
My friend the cold hard facts are that even forza is no where near next gen! sorry but its true,it has last gen pre baked lighting, no dynamic day night cycles,sub par physics engine,no dynamic weather, no diverse race types, as in rally, nascar, kart etc i mean come off it just what does it have?

Gran turismo 5 a last gen game which is years old now was practically native 1080p, granted it was 1280 by 1080p and up-scaled to 1920 by 1080p, and at 60fps, it has dynamic lighting, dynamic weather, dynamic day night cycles,LOTS OF VARIED RACE TYPES, rally,nascar,kart, etc and again i repeat its a current gen game and gt6 looks to improve on everything, so imagine what gt7 on ps4 will do?

Racing games are the easiest to pull off at 60fps with higher resolutions, and still they couldn't even give you guys real time dynamic anything? dynamic being the key word? LMAO
Even a beat em up, killer instinct they couldn't even get running at native 1080p 60fps? hell their are beat em ups on current gen which run equivalent to or better then ki

[CJDUNCAN]

At launch I expected some nonsense from multi-plat releases. While this is disappointing and definitely makes me think about skipping COD again this year, I know that getting a new console is an investment for it's future.

It's not like games will never achieve 1080p / 60fps on X1. If anything all this is showing me is that the multi-gen launch releases are nothing but money grabs.

I'll stick with Ryse at launch and wait for spring for some cool releases.

[Soc5]

Yeah, well it started to look really bad when the guy (Don Mattrick) who was in charge of the planning and development of the thing jumped ship before it was even released! He couldn't even stay around to see it launched, that's crazy, and should have concerned a lot of people.

It seems that whoever was in charge of keeping an eye on sonys plans really dropped the ball, because it looks like they were caught with their pants down big time. I mean just as an outsider looking in it looks like Microsoft thought Sony was launching later, at a higher price, with drm, and with a weaker console than they imagined and they were wrong in all counts. It couldn't get worse.

Their stragety was poor on all accounts. It's almost like someone at Microsoft(really working for Sony) was feeding them fake intelligence on everything and they bought it.

And now it looks really really bad that you have launch games released on both systems that run better on a competitors console at a much cheaper price! How do you spin that?

It's not like in the old days of xbox and the 360 where the people in charge were trying to push boundaries this time around I think they wanted to make a profit sooner and went for a cheaper mainstream product fueled by hype ala the wii. And it's backfiring because gamers expect more and Sony pulled one over on MS.

Have to admit at first I was disappointed and annoyed but not being too attached to one console I decided to just go with ps4 for now for lots of reasons (one being those horrible used car salesman reveals early in the year that left a bad taste in my mouth) But for xbox fanatics this must be killing them.

[Xsilver]

i really don't understand why COD of all games cant do 1080p on the xone i find that sad.

[Legacy212]

Yea I dont understand why not I mean if they can push ryse 900p and battlefield 720p no reason why they cant run COD at 900-1080p. I am very disappointed but never planned on playing Ghost. Hope when they start getting used to the ESRAM the games shape up better graphics.

[vigilante_man]

Remember the XB1 also has a less powerful GPU compared to PS4. So we should not expect games to be of the exact same quality, graphics wise.

There is more of a difference this time compared to PS3/360. Microsoft will make millions from Kinnect 2 and casual audience once their advertising kicks in. That is where the XB1 strength lies.

In time XB1 may prove an awesome kit, just not the best for pure gaming.

[Statix]

No shocking news here.

Anyone who's done an ounce of research on the specifications for these next-gen consoles already knew that PS4 has a sizable performance advantage over the Xbox One. First, Battlefield, now Call of Duty. Almost all multiplatform games from now until the end of the generation will bear out this technical advantage.

[mistertwoturbo]

Exactly what was on my mind. It's from a pure specification stand point. It was in their faces the whole time and they still kept trying to argue it.

[AnteCash]

But they didnt use the secret sauce yet!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m...

[sigfredod]

lol

[Ezz2013]

lel

[DevilishSix]

lol, I was thinking they forgot to get their rocket scientists on the job. Sorry I had to say it.

[Destrania]

That was freakin' funny lol.

[llMurcielagoll]

Doesn't matter the game will still look crap with smart fish.

[scott182]

Pardon my ignorance but when they say upscaled and native... what is the difference and why does it matter if something is native vs upscaled?

[mistertwoturbo]

Native means that's the true resolution the system is rendering. Upscaled means they rendered it at a lower resolution then projected it to the higher resolution on the tv. 720p is 921,600 pixels and 1080p is 2,073,600 pixels. That's more than twice the resolution the X1 is outputting. The difference is in clarity, less aliasing, and sharper everything.

[sigfredod]

ok have ever take a plastic bag with a logo printed and strech it? you notice how the logo began to look less sharp and more blurry?, thats is basically what happen when you take a 720p image and upscale it (stretch it) to a 1080p output

[dktxx2]

Native means that the images are rendered (created) in 1080p. Upscale means that they are rendered in 720p and stretched (via software) out to 1080p.

[Angels3785]

here is the difference in quality with visual aids

http://www.red.com/learn/re...

[esemce]

Cod On PS3/360 is 540p scaled to 720p for example.

[Funnymonkey013]

Damn this is something. So now we have 3 games that r better on PS4 BF4 COD G and NFS R. I'm getting worried 4 the X1 future as I feel like MS has really not been thinking of what's good and what's bad 4 the system and dare I say May end up being like the saga dreamcast if Sony pulls away with selling more system everywhere and being the most popular gaming system on the market. They should of just made it like PS4 make it a gaming system first then all others like TV and kenect 2nd. I have a feeling by next year we will be seeing loads of ps4 outselling X1 by a larg margin. Anyway only a little more then 2 weeks when PS4 coming out sofreaking excited!!! Can't wait to get my killzone bundle with cod and NFS r to my house and start playing it none stop 2 full days:)

[fullymoated]

Not really too sad about it.. I'll play 720p with DEDICATED SERVERS over 1080p with peer-to-peer connection ANY DAY

[Bennibop]

Erm Ps4 cod has been confirmed as on dedicated servers a while back. In fact ps3 games have been using dedicated servers since launch only the likes of cod have not been using them.

[fullymoated]

You mean this confirmation? “Ghosts will be using a hybrid system of dedicated servers and listen servers.” Is that the one that you think 100% confirms full dedicated servers for PS4? You might be disappointed.

[GrandpaSnake]

how do yo have so many bubbles in n4g and not know that was old news, dedicated servers have been confirmed for ps4 a while back son!

[raWfodog]

Whether its dedicated or listen, it's still not 'peer-to-peer' as you suggested.

[fullymoated]

Snake - everyone knows the old news =) My point was that it was not confirmed PS4 is full dedicated. They could very well be listen servers. Also known as connecting to another player in your game and not a dedicated server.

Connectivity has been the major issue with CoD the past few years, yet apparently what we all need is more resolution. You guys make me laugh.

Post a link if you have heard otherwise about the dedis. Thanks

[Bennibop]

There are far to many people on here that think they are all knowing just because they support a certain brand. Try doing some proper research or read actual news not rumour and conjecture!

[fullymoated]

@Bennibop
Amen to that! I will wait on that link showing 100% confirmed full dedis for PS4, not hybrids, not listen servers

[Revolver_X_]

Better yet fully

Give us a link where CODG is specifically listed using your precious cloud servers.

[Revolver_X_]

Better yet fully

Give us a link where CODG is specifically listed using your precious cloud servers.

[FANTA1180]

noone cares guy ...xbox fans are still going to buy call of duty.

neither are going to play differently except psn network isnt exactly the optimum network for online gaming..lol

[TheTwelve]

Hope Xbox fans enjoyed those hours of good Titanfall news because now it's back to the grind...

[amnalehu]

Its not an accident that was announced when it was. t was meant to soften the blow.

[TheTwelve]

I definitely agree with you.

[LonDonE]

@The Twelve

Agreed, even that was not for long, shortly after vince zampella the main guy at respawn tweeted that it was just the first game in the series which was exclusive, and that the sequels were not! also by the way he worded it, it seems like even they were not aware of this news till recently, most likely a back room deal made by ea at the last minute to please m$ due to the bad bf4 news! LOLOLOL seriously xbots need to realise they are being taken for a ride, xbox1 will be a entertainment first console, and kinnect casual gamer focused second, and then finally a core gamer console third! i called it ages ago, after seeing the wii success with casual's m$ has been itching for that money! hence the total lack of core gamer focus the last 3 years on xbox 360, and the complete focus on kinnect!

M$ is just roping in the core to build that initial install base, and then when they are ready they will most likely bring back all those garbage policies and concentrate on kinnect and casual gamers! its known as a bait and switch ladies and gentlemen, just remember i called it, see you doubters in a few years when your mad!

Granted its just my opinion, and a prediction,so don't bite my head off guys! but i wouldn't put any of it past Microsoft! just look at the x1 reveal, pure games console? my ass!! like i said before Sony have always put the core gamers first!!!! this is fact,take it or leave it!! i just wish the xbots would wake up! i feel sorry for them since they are all gamers like you and i! and deserve better!

[reko]

@joy

as usual...in denial!

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"Upscaled to 1080p... Sad news for Xbox fans!"

Its sucks But I doubt its "sad news."

[come_bom]

I think the X1 could handle Call of Duty: Ghosts at 1080p, but at this moment, the X1 is so badly optimized due to Microsoft's various 180's, that they had to lower the games settings to get it too run properly.

I honestly think at this moment the X1 is not ready to be released to the public. There are way too many fu**ups, Microsoft needs to fire the people responsible for the Xbox devision and get new blood, people that understand what they're doing.

[JonnyBigBoss]

You sound happy to find this out. You're a hateful person.

[jamsam360]

Microsoft already said that they are late with drivers and software for improvements. So I will go with that for now.

[C-Thunder]

Excuses, it will always lag behind.

[Trekster_Gamer]

May be upscaled but superior online ..
Sorry trolls but if you squint your eyes and look really hard the blade of grass in the distance might look smoother.

Pathetic laughable sonybots will never get it...

[davidDIRK]

Lol. Priceless.

[Campy da Camper]

So you have compared the upgraded PSN on the PS4 to LIVE? Can you bullet point all differences please?

[JetP0619]

in Response to Campy da Camper, i dont think trekster knows what he's talking about. Also funny that the same person that leaked this info about the resolution also said that Xbox live is having major problems and they werent talking about weeks of fixing it. Dropped connections and matchmaking problems. That's what happens when you build your whole infrastructure with DRM in mind only to reverse it later on lol. Enjoy that downgraded Live and resolution. Xbox 360 is looking more like the next gen console than the xbox one lol.

[Sevir]

JokesOnYou-

I just have to laugh, this isn't about believing the Hive-mind! lol, its coming to terms with the increasingly growing number of quantifiable facts that the PS4 is more powerful. if launch games hat are multiplatform are showing these type of disparities then just imagine what the end game will be like 2-5 years down the line?

And you said that you wont buy it because the game isn't 1080p...

Looks like you'll be just down to Forza as of right now, because nothing else from MS's stable runs that high natively...

Not Ryse, DR3, or all the slew of multiplatform games launching with the console. And its gonna be funny if DF does the inner findings and tech breakdowns and finds that Forza 5 is upscaled from 720p to 1080p...

I guess you get what you pay for... $500 and under performing! Good luck with your console. i'm sure you'll only enjoy Forza.

[Mills93]

Because games can only be enjoyed if they are 1080p forgot about that

[Sevir]

i'mg going by what he said. he said he wont be buying a game because they cant reach 1080p... LOL! The enjoyment factor isn't dependent on it but lets just cut the rational talk really, had this been the other way around like it was with the PS3 back in 06 the vast majority of XBOX fans would be flaming this to hell. Now that the tables have turned what was said months ago suddenly doesn't matter.

Give it a rest already!

[davidDIRK]

Game over xbox.

[jacksfr1]

Same but now its 125% more pixels! This turning out very bad for xbox fans.

[boneso82]

Maybe they predicted this sort of thing based on the system they made and this is why they didn't call it the Xbox 720...

[corvusmd]

Honestly, I know you'd think it's a sad day for XB1 fans, but not really. 1. Being as NO ONE on this forum can actually tell the difference between upscaled and native 1080p when playing anyway...that point is invalid (as I have been saying since day one) not to mention that XB1 has an advanced upscaler so perhaps using that instead of being native leads to reason #.. 2. Perhaps the reduced resolution will free up the system to provide some other graphical enhancements (and since you still can't tell the difference between native and upscaled...this will mean it actually looks better.) But MOST IMPORTANTLY #3...since you can't tell the difference graphically...the fact that XB1 will have ACTUAL dediated servers not just pretend ones like KZ and PS4's COD...the online experience will be MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better...As shown by the comparisson between BF4 on PS4 and XB1...XB1 looks just as good if not better...so would XB1 fans like native 1080p sure, as long as it doesn't take away from anything else...do they need it? Absolutely not....Does PS4 need a better network instead of investing fully in a machine that can ONLY do native 1080p....ABSOLUTELY ...especially since it doesn't create any REAL advantage. Cry all you want, you know it's true, either way I'm a true gamer and will have fun playing the games I like

[MysticStrummer]

Much was made about smaller differences during the PS3/360 years, so why wouldn't bigger differences be pointed out now, especially when it's two impending next gen consoles?

[ErcsYou]

Lol, that was the funniest sh!t ive read in a long time, thanks for the laughs..

[mkis007]

Your point is invalidated as I routinely notice those differences. Next time don't speak in absolutes. Then look at the fact it is pushing these pixels at a better frame rate than the xbox1 is doing at a lower resolution and you see where the problem is corvus. Even better is the fact the console that is pushing more pixels and preforming better is 100$ cheaper. If need be Sony can buy dedicated servers, where as MS is stuck with its consoles hardware. So you were willing to think they would gimp the ps4 version of games a while ago, but now that the tables have turned you believe they will give the xb1 better textures?? I don't like to be one of those guys, but you telling me what I can and can't see is dumbfounding.

[cyclindk]

If nothing else, you are TRULY deluded...

Trying to make it sound as if online on PS4 is practically unplayable or something.

Good god...

So what in THIS UNIVERSE does the EVIL Sony console need to do for you to concede even an INCH that the holy relic (Xbox One) could actually be less capable a machine?

Is someone threatening you or your family? That if you EVER give anything but praise to this one company/product/line of products you will pay some price?

:/ so puzzling...

I detest many of Microsoft's business practices on principal alone, but I can do it like it's nothing, watch!

See there was this one Xbox One trailer showing all the voice commands and the Snap functions and the camera use for a Skype call and switching between everything and even recording and uploading gameplay, was an incredible trailer and if it actually worked that smoothly it would be awesome.

See, simple... try it, come on.

[joseph1111]

I always purchase both systems and based on this information, this will be the first time I purchase multiplatform games on the PS4. I just hope the online is as good as the Xbox live is and Sony will be on fire!!

[Magicite]

SO IT BEGINS...

[HeroReborn]

I think it's the esram thats causing this hiccup. The unified gddr5 can not be contested and this in the beginning, shows why. My thought is as time goes on the playing field will level a bit more. Still all around we all win as gamers these numbers personal don't mean much more the experience coupled with services

[walkincarpet]

that's strange that IW can't 1080p their cross gen game on X1. Makes me wonder what MS did to their console... still I'll take xbox live and the controller over PS4 and 1080p all day long.

[cyclindk]

ESRAM :)

But seriously, I don't think that's it, not for CoD.... it really should go 1080p on just about anything.

So crazy

[Xboxonefan27]

Good Luck with the PS4 over heating.

[jocomat9]

LMAO your trying to hard or not hard enough. Look at your name. Smh

[AsimLeonheart]

Mobile device processors with integrated GPUs DO NOT heat up like discreet GPUs. The PS4 runs at 35 degree Celsius which is lower than PS3's 45 to 55 degree Celsius, you butthurt troll.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

[cyclindk]

And twice (100%) more on CoD

[Thegamer41]

This gen is going to be interesting. I always find it entertaining seeing Xbox fanboys making excuses, id like to see what they have to say when the gap widens in the future :)

[mewhy32]

Well so it begins.

[IRON883]

Sad sad day for the xbox one shot down before it even had a chance

[FunkMacNasty]

Im actually really surprised about this! Given how ps3 was a bit more powerful than 360 this gen, yet it really was only the Sony exclusives that looked better graphically than other games... I figured devs would try to acheive parity between mutiplat release this gen as well, but i guess not!

Also, just because I'm not tech saavy and don't know the real difference, what will the graphical differences be between native 1080p and upscaled?

[SL1M DADDY]

This will be the first gen that I have chosen to go with only one console. I am glad that I have chosen the PS4. With the bad taste left in my mouth with the Xbox360 and the many failures that were virtually never addressed, the Xbox1 was the clear choice for what console to leave on the store shelves. This is only the icing ont he cake.

[GW212]

Well, I'm sorry to say that I just cancelled my X1 pre-order. I am and always have been an Xbox guy and I've done my best to go along with the BS in hopes it would all pull together. As of now, that doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon. Maybe in the future I'll pick one up.

So, to that end, can someone tell me where I can still pre-order a PS4? There must be some still floating around out there somewhere.

[Manic2014]

Well that sucks, but kinda expected since all the development issues......Hopefully the dev's will get more familiar by next year and develop more native 1080p games.....

[BeardedPriest]

PS4 MASTER RACE!!!

KZ:SF will be better anyway...

[FITgamer]

I prefer PS4, but this "Master Race" BS needs to stop. I don't want be associated with PC "Master Race" guys.

[xHeavYx]

I'm pretty sure he is joking, he is a silly banana

[PixelNinja]

PC MUSTARD RICE!

[JonnyBigBoss]

If you want to be like that...

PC MASTER RACE.

[vigilante_man]

Would that be dual-core PCs with basic GPUs or are you talking expensive setups? But I get your point..

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

This game looks terrible, even in crystal clear 1080p native on PS4.

Upscaled from 720p must look like blurry, jaggy, hideous mess.My god.

[PixelNinja]

Those Jaggies, I feel like one is going to come out of the screen and stab me lol.

[LonDonE]

@PixelNinja made me lol so hard a bubble for u good sir!

[Campy da Camper]

And what really sucks is it can stab you from across the map.

[MasterCornholio]

Another CBOAT rumor confirmed.

Wow that leaker has been spot on with the rumors lately

Well I guess I can add this to my list of multiplat victories.

Edit: I made a mistake the rumors came from thurway not CBOAT

PS4: 3
Xbox One: 0
Tie: 0

P.S in case your wondering where the third came from its Need for Speed.

Nexus 7 2013

[Gazondaily]

"Another CBOAT rumor confirmed.

Wow that leaker has been spot on with the rumors. "

Didn't he say Titanfall was coming for the PS4??

[famoussasjohn]

He did say that, though he did not say which one Titanfall. :P There's a high possibility for a sequel and being on the PS4.

[majiebeast]

He said it was timed exclusive and if you looked at the reaction Vince Zampella gave on twitter yesterday. That was the original deal before EA made the exclusive deal behind Respawns back.

I love how Vince can just say whatever the F he wants on twitter even just criticizing his publisher. Just because Microsoft and EA need him more then he needs them.

[torchic]

judging from Zampella's reaction, Titanfall was coming to PS4 as far as he was concerned.

Microsoft must've secured a deal in recent weeks.

[Xsilver]

http://www.spawnfirst.com/n... actually titanfall was a timed exclusive until recently so yeah it was coming to PS4 they were right but MS took it.

[Gazondaily]

@torhic and Xsilver

Yeah I agree but that means that Respawn hadn't even begun working on the PS4 port.

[WeaseL]

My guess is MS panicked because if a PS4 version was made and it ran @1080p it would have made them look foolish with all the cloud talk.

[torchic]

@septic

they most probably had something playable and very unoptimised on PS4 since they have PS4 dev kits (again decoding Zampella's tweets). in any case we've all heard of how easy it is to run PC code on PS4.

I mean at the end of the day they are a multiplatform dev. they probably have Wii U kits as well.

[majiebeast]

This deal only benefitted EA and Microsoft while Respawn got screwed over. Respawn gets money for sales of the game and seeing as the game isnt coming to ps4 and probably ps3 thats a lot of money lost. Plus they wont see a single penny of the recent deal between EA and Microsoft.

[Deltaguy]

It was coming to ps4 but, Microsoft had them duffle bags though...

[kingPoS]

@torchic

Microsoft generally buys exclusive games while Sony generally has them made.

Tis thy truth.

[Kayant]

No that was from famousmortimer & thuway.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[MasterCornholio]

Thank you for correcting me. I get confused between leakers all the time.

Nexus 7 2013

[pyramidshead]

Cboat did step in to confirm it as well actually at some point when he directly replied to Albert Penello in a thread once stating that "he already knows the resolution", but some don't really take CBOAT's word as gospel as they think he has an agenda.

It was just confirmation after confirmation.

[Loki86]

Like TitanFall's exclusivity, Mirror's Edge being exclusive, X1 not removing DRM, ect..

He has gotten alot wrong in the last year.

[PlayStation_4]

all these were likely talked about in internal discussions, and they decided to change their minds

[True_Samurai]

Actually it's
PS4: 3
Xbox: 2
Tie

TF not going to PS4 & Drive Club being delayed but not X1's racer F5

I see I've angered some people :3

↓↓ PS4's racer isn't ready for launch but X1's is. Hahah I never said F5 was or is going to be on the PS4 XD I'm just playing the score game with you

@Olger awww :-3 I see you're taking this a tad too serious. Calm down

[MasterCornholio]

I said multiplats. Jeez unless you have proof that Forza 5 is on the PS4.

Nexus 7 2013

[scott182]

I am pretty sure they could release Drive Club now and have the best racer on the market, them wanting to perfect it makes me want it even more. Can't wait until it gets released!

[Xsilver]

O.O damn what are the other CBOAT rumors?
Edit: @Majin damnnnn well i guess titanfall resolution will go up it launches next year but the OS the console launches next month woah xbox fans better hope that one isn't true.

[majiebeast]

Titanfall will be 720P on Xbone and the xbone OS is unstable as hell.

[RandomDude655]

An ass-storm is coming too apparently
He called MS's E3 90% correct too.

[otakukidd]

Cboat was still right. The developer tweeted yesterday saying it was a year exclusive and Microsoft made a deal only recently. Cboat was talking about a timed exclusive before e3.

[Bennibop]

Ea might have to say that it is a lifetime exclusive as part of the agreement with Microsoft or risk costing themselves a fortune for breach of contract! I don't believe we have heard the last about titanfall ps4, find hard to believe ea would invest in development and then pull the plug., I think it's more of a case of double bluff.

[otakukidd]

we can always hope for titanfall: sigma.

[AnteCash]

By now every1 shoul know CBOAT is Agent Phil.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

Secret agent Phil

[DEEBO]

Now that's funny!

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Your list of multiplat victories? Man this is depressing. I am ALL IN with PS4, but I'm feeling like the p in 1080p stands for politics. When did this hobby become such a mess hall peacock show?

[TheTwelve]

At least give Xbox One a point for the Titanfall news. Alright, well it's on 360 and PC so maybe give it 1/3 of a point???

[MasterCornholio]

If you look at the list its obviously about the technical prowness of multiplats on the Xbox One and PS4. Unless you want to include all the FTP games on the PS4 that are on PC as well plus indies.

Nexus 7 2013

[TheTwelve]

I'm more or less joking, good man.

[Soc5]

They should have used the money they spent on securing exclusivity, on building a better system
then they would get lots of points

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Master will he be right about this one? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boa...

Just out of curiosity.

Btw your fanboyism is showing hard.

[Qrphe]

>my list of multiplat victories.

The X1 being weaker than expected is not a victory to anyone. Since most devs kill probably support it, that means this generation will be held back a bit as far as what devs will optimize for.

[IamTheStorm81]

Buying both PS4 and XBO on day one so I have no dog in this fight, but I gotta say this is going to get ugly.

*hides*

[s8anicslayer]

I preordered and payed for both as well, but news like this makes my choice for multiplat a lot easier.

[jocomat9]

save your money from the xbone and buy more games for ps4. ehh?

[Kayant]

Neogaf restored again loool... Now I wonder how much of the other info from the *insiders* are correct.

[Sarobi]

#TeamCboat

[Statix]

Good to see a developer being more forthcoming with actual facts and information than some companies (i.e., Activision or Microsoft).

[s8anicslayer]

I think activision is a little upset about the Titanfall deal.

[Statix]

Hmm, you and I can joke, but Activision really has been loyal partners with Microsoft for many years now. For Microsoft to literally be supporting Activision and Call of Duty's DIRECT COMPETITION (i.e., EA's Titanfall and Battlefield), one must logically assume that Activision can't be totally happy about that.

I started getting suspicious when Microsoft, for the first time in years, allowed EA's Battlefield and Titanfall to be shown at their E3 press conference, instead of Activision's COD. Call of Duty has been demonstrated live on Microsoft's mainstage for years now; it's become a perennial expectation for E3. But not this year, for some reason.

I can imagine, if I were an employee at Activision and am hearing about all these deals Microsoft is doing with EA, I would be exclaiming something along the lines of, "Wtf? We've been loyal partners with Microsoft and supporters of Xbox for almost a decade, and they pay us back by promoting all of our rival's triple-A FPS titles?"

[Brix90]

Think thats why Activision slapped MS in the face with exclusive content to PS4 for Destiny made by the Halo creators lol...

[Loki86]

This clearly has to do with IW not having enough time with the eSRAM, it is sad that this is the best that they could do. Oh well, I have been done with CoD since MW2.

[mistertwoturbo]

No it has nothing to do with that. The whole esram thing is the same as the xbox 360 and what did people say about the 360? That it's easy to develop for. It's just the fact is that the x1 gpu just isn't that great with only 1.3tflops and bottlenecks itself with ddr3

[Loki86]

You clearly know nothing, it has to with the fact that 3rd party devs just got the kits last year and have not had enough time to work with eSRAM and the tools for the X1. It will get much better post-launch, look at a game like Ryse running at a stable framerate for proof.

EDIT: 360 had 10MB of eDRAM which was not enough that it would cause a huge development problem even at launch.

[mistertwoturbo]

Clearly know nothing? lol

I know well enough that it's complete BS to try and spin it as being hard to develop for. PURE SPECS alone dictates from the beginning the PS4 not only has a more powerful GPU (which is needed for HIGHER RESOLUTIONS) on top of having GDDR5 in which has been used for GPU's since god knows what 2007?

It's ZERO SURPRISE that the X1 can't output at a higher resolution being bottle-necked by that measly 32mb and slower DDR3, AND a weaker GPU.

What's so hard to understand? There's no magic sauce or fairy dust that will add compute units to the X1's GPU.

It's gimped at the hardware level. Accept it already.

[Elit3Nick]

you can tell that the game is heavily unoptimised judging from the abnormally high pc requirements. I'm really not surprised that this rumor was confirmed, I'm a little disappointed, but this is more development issues than anything else

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

Not shocked by this everyone knows the PS4 is more powerful! But imagine the difference in games when SONY's first party devs start getting a feel for the PS4 in a few years. What a scary thought lol

[vigilante_man]

You say scary, I say woooaaaahhhhhh - cannot wait!

[TKCMuzzer]

I am a bit surprised, considering how much more is going on in BF4, including player count. Would have thought 1080p would have been achievable on both.

[fullymoated]

It's early tech, they got the dev kits much later than the PS4 dev kits, and the X1 ESRAM is harder to work with. You are correct, if BF4 can hit 720p/60 then CoD can do much better.

Don't believe the N4G hype - go read some other sites and X1 is doing just fine. And Mark said both versions are looking great! Sounds good to me! =)

[boneso82]

Hype? This isn't hype, it's cold hard facts from the developers mouth... There is no belief needed for facts, they are facts. 1080p > 720p, fact!

I'm sure xbone is doing just fine, just not as fine as PS4, clearly.

[JCOLE13195]

Wow... This is quite surprising. I understand the Battlefeld situation but Call of Duty? I mean, the game really doesn't look too graphically demanding at all. Ryse looks 100x better than COD and that still manages to run at 900p. This is ridiculous.

[No_Limit]

Damn, after all these bad news, I am officially cancelling my XB1 and am getting a PS4 with Killzone SF, NBA 2K14, and Battlefield 4 at launch. Even if I am going to missed games like Forza 5, Killer Instinct, Project Spark,and Titanfall, there is no excuse for MS (being as rich as they are) purposely gimping the X360 successor and charging more than the competition. I am done with Xbox as a brand. WTF MS??? I heart is broken now but at least there is an alternative in the PS4 that I can be looking forward to now that the cat has come out of the bag regarding specs.

[EXVirtual]

You're trolling, aren't you? I'm getting the PS4, but from the posts that I've seen, you favor the XBO. Plus, Titanfalls on the 360 and PC
OT: I'm not surprised by the resolution that the PS4 version is at, but what the hell happened with the XBO?

[No_Limit]

Fanboy, PLEASE!!!

WTF does my previous posts in favor of the XB1 has to do with my decision now? I haven't post on N4G for months and was dead set on getting a XB1 thinking that games like Battlefield 4, COD Ghost would be similar in performance in addition of the XB1 having the launch games that I want. Now, seeing that the disparity that is so one sided in favor of the PS4, I can't justify of what MS is doing charging $100 more for a weaker system, even with the inclusion of Kinect 2.0.

90% of my games are all third party games and I have most of them for X360 this generation because it performs better; thus, that is one of the huge reason I like the X360 more than the PS3.

I was dead set on getting a XB1 thinking the performance would be close but it is clearly not the case now. There is no way I can justify paying for a system that can't even handle COD (which looks like crap) at 1080P. There is just no excuse.

[Sevir]

No_Limit! I'm clutching pearls right now after reading that from you!!! This is a first i'm reading something like this from anyone. No one here has ever admitted that they are changing camps after being dead set on one platforms. that's crazy! On N4G you're actually one of the first to defect to PS like this and not being afraid to admit it! Bubs for the honesty.

[PlayStation_4]

Project Spark & Titanfall are both on 360/PC... you're not missing out on very much.

[FITgamer]

Wait..did someone hack No_Limit's account? This can't be real.

[iceman06]

Gotta be trolling....HARD!!!

[torchic]

wow, you used to be the most hardcore of all hardcore Xbox fans.

[bjmartynhak]

Well... hopefully one day devs will overcome the ESRAM with better dev tools. But inferior specs will keep inferior all gen.

Down the line you can get a XB1 with a price cut for a Halo/Forza fix. That's my plan at least.

(and really surprising to see you saying it... it even sounds trolling, lol)

[Sarobi]

You aren't alone.

[Themba76]

WHAT??? no limit cancelling x1 I know the sky is falling now.

[No_Limit]

@Themba,

It wasn't my decision to cancel the XB1, MS made that decision for me over that past couple of months. First, it was Killer Instinct (everyone thought it was 1080P, then downgrade to 720P). Then it was Ryse @900P. News came out that Titanfall might be 720P instead of the promised 1080P, and finally, actual gameplays of Battlefield 4 and COD Ghost are the straws that broke the camel's back. I mean, it is one thing to to perform worst at low resolution but when the competing brand offer something that performs 50% or more better at $100 less, it is not a contest. MS should now really consider selling a Kinect-less SKUY for $299 because the spec that is inside the XB1 is ancient hardware, man. They are not Apple that can get away with robbery like this.

After 8 long years of favoring the Xbox brand over the PS brand, I am heading back home to the PS brand like it was before. Luckily, I already had my PS4 reserved at Best Buy a long time ago for the just in case scenario and I am glad I did.

[amnalehu]

Some bad choices were made with their choice in hardware. esram is choking everything out and I don't think there is any patch that will address this issue. It is a hardware problem. I also am no longer pre-ordering the X1, not so much because of this but more because they have known that this is going to be an issue and tried to hide it from everyone until the money was spent and the base all had their systems in house. It's also coming out that all of the UI footage that we have seen has been faked. They are hoping that the masses are under informed. I think the funniest thing that no one has mentioned is that the the Xbox one and the Xbox 360 version of Ghost will essentially be the exact same game, same engine and same resolution. Welcome to next gen! yeah right. See you on the PSN!

[esemce]

If you want Fable, Forza, Halo, Kinect and timed (payed for) exclusives choose MS.

If you want REAL exclusives from 1st party devs with a focus mainly on games that would be supported for longer and Naughty Dog choose Sony.

For me it's simple as the only console to have GT, Killzone, Team Ico, GOW, Uncharted/TLOU will be from Sony and that's enough for me to make it essential.

[Mkai28]

Very disappointing indeed, COD has or had more preorders on the X1. It pisses me off to that they have that much money but chose a weak GPU so they can make a profit on day one. Cancel you preorders ppl, they need to be punished..

[Kujii]

Wow. For the first time in the comments section when I read "pre-order canceled" I know people actually mean it.

[boneso82]

Well done no_limit, for having the common sense to choose the better value, more powerful console, and the balls to admit, on N4G no less, that you have changed your mind after months of Xbox allegiance.

If only you could get through to some of the Xbox lovers on here that are still in denial and making excuse after excuse to defend the company and console they unconditionally yet irrationally love. I don't get it, I really really don't get it. How can anyone be so stubborn, so hard headed, so completely blind as to not see what you now see, and that a lot of us already have seen.

Welcome back to the darkside, good for you!

[Clarence]

Who are you?

[No_Limit]

"I am your father" [in Darth Vader, heavy breathing voice]

[RiPPn]

Wow, can't believe what I'm reading. Well anyway welcome to the dark side No_Limit.

[Onehandband1t]

O.........M.........G! That is all

[BattleTorn]

This may sounds incredibly sad, but I think I am going to go (on Halloween night, early) to an Xbox One demo and tell every one of the PR guys that I am a diehard Xbox fan - and I am going to cancel, or sell unopened, my Xbox One.

And I am going to be very clear - that it is because Microsoft doesn't care for gamers.

I know they'll refute that, but I will say "if they truly did, they'd have made hardware capable of parity"

IT CANT ACHIEVE PARITY - I'm jumping ship.

[vigilante_man]

After the PS4 reveal in feb I was sure MS would come out with something amazing. The first few minutes in I got excited about the "Turn on this.." voice stuff but it went downhill from there.

But there is a silver lining for all die hard Microsoft fans. If they actually stick to their word and follow Sony's lead with pushing and supporting their studios this time around, instead of closing them all and splashing out on exclusive deals, we may see some amazing games further down the line.

Price cuts, great games and no Kinnect may even bring in the Sony fans. We do all love great games, after all!!

[jatakk]

Wow... this is sad! Really shocked they can't squeeze out more on the xbone.

[sourav93]

Why isn't CoD at least 900p on the Xbone? With BF4, both versions run at 60fps; 900p for PS4 and 720p for Xbone. So for ghosts, the discrepancies should have stayed constant i.e. 60fps with 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbone. It's surprising that it's not the case. It's evident that the ps4 is the stronger hardware, but I'm just wondering if there is some lazy coding at play here as well. Anyways, can't wait for the 29th. Greatness Awaits.

[KodevEx]

Maybe the Xbox1 isn't stable to handle it? It was originally a 2014 release after all.

[Deep-throat]

Megaton.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooom

[BattleTorn]

Fuck Xbox. Fuck Xbox. Fuck Xbox.

Check my comment history to see what how much saying this means to me.

:( :'( :"(

[T2]

Well if you have a 1080p Plasma sitting in your living room ..... Whatcho gonna do ?

[BattleTorn]

@joecanada

I seriously don't know. I have both systems pre-ordered.

I've been flip flopping on which to cancel soo much, I kinda just wanna cancel both.

I'm still playing GTAV constantly.

[NaAsAr]

COD on 360 was upscaled to 1080 and it looked and performed better than the ps3.

just sayin' though.

[vividi]

It is common knowledge that the ps3 COD were the bad ports, seems like things are changing for next gen

[NaAsAr]

agreed. i was just stating an observation.

[esemce]

When it comes to many 3rd party titles the PS4/XB1 will be essentially getting ports of the PC code. So whichever console has the most raw power and is easy the dev on will probably get the better version.

So take Watchdogs:

PC>PS4>XB1>WiiU simples.

[Idba]

But now the ps4 version is native 1080p

[amnalehu]

The irony is that COD Ghost on 360 will probably perform as good and look as good as the xbox one version.

[Back-to-Back]

And cod on 360 looks dated so what your point?

[dethpuck]

Cool can we move on now. Who is buying cod anyway?

[joe90]

probably around 15 million people.

[sigfredod]

Unfortunately millions

[Golden_Mud]

People saying Xbox One can't get 1080p ? then just go and see Metal Gear Solid V gameplay , it looks better than CoD and still runs identical on both the PS4 and the Xbox One , I would even say 100% , it's just a matter of how lazy Infinity Ward is

* Disagree all you want but I will inform everyone that both consoles are the same , it's just a matter of how lazy a developer is

[Angels3785]

In all honesty we have to wait for the technical details of mgs to be released...because they haven't said what either will be running at.

[Enemy]

Lol wait till MGSV gets downgraded on Xbone next. It's happening with every Xbone game.

[GrandpaSnake]

do not slander kojimas name, when we get more info on mgs5 because of this whole 720p debacle, pretty sure people will start to tweet kojima questions regarding this matter. If you know anything about metal gear you would now that playstation is the baby's daddy and chances are the playstation version will be superior.

[Golden_Mud]

I still think Kojima and his team made a great job and weren't lazy

[C-H-E-F]

Do you truly believe that Kojima will nerf MGSV in its entirety for the likes of the Xbox? Idk if you've noticed but with every version of MGS, Kojima pushes the engine he uses so much that with the next iteration of MGS he has to create a BRAND NEW game engine. With that being said the PS4 has 50% more power graphically and you think he will lay off of that? Kojima is a perfectionist you better be grateful if he doesn't cancel the xox version because it can't look like he imagined it would.

[bromtown]

What I don't get is Microsoft have been the ones touting the possibility of future 4K gaming on it's console, whereas Sony have just said "Maybe, but unlikely - we'll see" and MS can't even get a multi generation Call of Duty game to run in native 1080p!

If this disparity isn't just down to the Xbox's supposedly (at the moment)inferior dev tools then they are pretty screwed.

[ambientFLIER]

I have no doubt there will be 4K games on the xbox. Simple, downloadable ones. For example, geometry wars 2 is native 1080p/60fps on the xbox 360 (and looks stunning). I don't think the xbox one will struggle much to play that game at 4K/30fps.

[Deathdeliverer]

Isn't forza supposed to be 4k? They have 4 k pictures up.

[Baltar]

And thats the pre-order star from Microsoft, i wonder if consumers who bought/will buy both systems will trade their COD pre-orders based on this..

[pabadamus1]

Oh boy! Well...we all know that both versions of the game will sell well and people will enjoy themselves. Ultimately that is what counts. If this iteration has a good single player and reviews well I will pick it up. Otherwise it will solely be Battlefield and Killzone come the 15th.

[SmokingMonkey]

This took way to long to confirm.

Lot's of face lost, both Microsoft and Activision.

[EXVirtual]

Well, I knew this would get confirmed sooner rather than later.
2 things.
1. How in the name of hell could the XBO version be 720p? It should be running at 900p native at LEAST. Ryse is and it's much more demanding.
2. This basically debunks RTU's 'sources' about the PS4 version of COD ghosts running at 720p.
If we're already seeing this much of a gap in power at launch, then I can't imagine what it'll be like in a few years.
Just check NeoGAF, they're already on meltdown.

[Neonridr]

1. I imagine it has to do with CoD being 60fps and Ryse is probably only 30fps.

[Golden_Mud]

Then explain Forza 5 ?

[Neonridr]

1st party vs 3rd party. 1st parties always know how to push their systems more??

I have no clue honestly. Just offering up a valid reason as to the increase in resolution due to a decrease in fps.

[Enemy]

@ Hassounah: It's a racing game with static environments and baked lighting. There's your 60fps. Wake me up when Forza finally gets dynamic lighting, night racing, real rendered clouds, and real rendered environments.

[Faztkiller]

Forza 5 doesn't look much better than Forza 4 Heck GT5 was running close to 1080p 60fps on PS3

[Loki86]

Forza 5 doesn't look that much better than 4, let me suggest a website:

http://www.glasses.com

[RiPPn]

@IHassounah: Forza uses last gen cheats like forward rendering and baked lighting. Plus racing games aren't as resource intensive as other genres.

[ambientFLIER]

Rippn - Really? Racing games aren't as resource intensive????? You think it's easy to push crazy polygon counts per car, reflections, draw a high def track, AND calculate the physics that a sim like this uses?

OKAY THEN

[True_Samurai]

I guess they didn't utilize the Esram? I read somewhere Microsoft made some last minute changes to the hardware

[Tooly]

no excuses bro.

[Hicken]

You read somewhere, did you? And I guess you just lost the link of where you read it.

Nothing shows up in a Google search, either, huh?

Try Bing.

[sigfredod]

I said it before, no more rumors just the cold numbers speaking, greatness awaits, on the other hand cod is ugly looking game, doesn't compare to BF4 at 900p and what to say against KZ SF 1080, greatness waits!
Also i must say i'm surpised that the bone couldn't handle 1080p on COD, that game graphics are last gen

[ambientFLIER]

I don't think you said that stupid slogan enough in your comment yet...

[Hicken]

Haters gonna hate.

[jimbobbeers]

So COD can only manage 720p (same as BF4) yet BF4 has alot more stuff going on? You have to think the developers just haven't had enough time to get it right for the Xbox One.

[Neonridr]

BF4 will be 30fps, CoD will be 60 fps. If CoD was aiming for only 30fps, 1080p on the XB1 might have been possible..

[JCOLE13195]

Battlefield 4 actually runs at 60fps on multiplayer and single player on next gen consoles.

[Neonridr]

oh ok, then I have no valid reason, lol.

If BF4 is native 720p and running at 60fps (on XB1) then there is no excuse as to why CoD is only 720p running at 60fps. The FB3 engine is so much more advanced than the CoD's aging engine..

EDIT - while targeted at 60fps on BF4, there are several instances where it dips. CoD usually runs at a rock solid 60fps with no dips. Regardless, no excuse..

[JCOLE13195]

@Neonridr
I agree my friend. Perhaps the developers didn't grasp the hardware too much. While this isn't the end of the world? I'm just shocked that they couldn't have the X1 run at 1080p.

[Moncole]

The game wasn't optimized well or someone got payed to make its 720p on X1. It should be 1080p easily since you know COD doesn't take that much power to run.

[assdan]

Yes, every single developer (including DICE, who was payed by microsoft) is getting payed to have higher res. The PS4 is far stronger than the X1. Even crytek made a statement that the PS4 is stronger, and that esram is difficult to utilize. Crytek has some of the best programmers in the industry. The fact is, if you look at the x1, it's almost built to run 720p/900p really well, but it falls flat at higher resolutions.

[boeso]

Solution: if you like better looking games get a PS4.

[wdb0207]

Yeah it's MS fault that IW didn't make the game in 1080p. Y'all ps4 lover boys make it seem like both systems don't have games in 1080p. It's call of duty. Seriously. This is the same game that dies out 3 months after its release.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Not getting Xbox One anymore if it has almost same graphics and resolution as the Xbox 360. Pathetic.

[ambientFLIER]

Yes, almost same graphics....never mind the fact that resolution doesn't determine what a game generally looks like, and a 720P game with all the advanced rendering technique will look miles better and much more next-gen than the same game at 1080P with no post-processing...but sure, almost the same.

Idiot.

[Godhimself_In_3d]

@septic i agree about titan fall to a point respwan didn't even know about it which in my theory is ms just signed that check thats a big win for xbox. as far as cod ghost im shocked wow im getting ps4 and xbox 1 day 1.I guess its a reversal of last gen even tho im a Ps4 guy as long as there no ports on xbox 1 like skyrim or bayonetta i think they both will be great systems. nba 2k bioshock looked better to me on xbox but it didn't stop me from having fun with them even tho i play it on ps3 a real game out

[Pascalini]

Haha fail by infinity ward

The game looks terrible an they couldn't even manage 900p

[DEEBO]

No fail on MS for not using better hardware when they have all the money in the world.

But to be honest with you,i think MS are focusing on making t.v shows for their games.that way you're xbox will always be on with them.
from playing games to watching the shows that tie into games.

Why make a halo movie when it can be a 10 year t.v series.

[cell989]

Penello's nightmare has become a reality, he knew all along about this, he just didnt know how to confront all those angry gamers,once they found out thorough him, so he decided to play mum

[xXtremeHDGamerXx]

Xbox one only 720p Damnnnn!!!!!!!!!!

[wdb0207]

Why would call of duty be the reason anyone buys a next gen console. It's call of duty. The same game we've been playing for years.

[DevilishSix]

YEah but you have to remember this angers Xbox COD fans. Some gamers only play annual COD and 360 was the console of choice last gen for this group. Now this group has to rethink their gaming habits with the new consoles and then they find out the Xbox version is inferior. Will these gamers decide on a PS4 over X1 their choice is harder now.

[JonnyBigBoss]

To provide you some insight, I'm someone getting only an Xbox One.

This news tells me the Xbox One has depressing hardware. 720p is mind-blowing in 2013, especially for $500. I can build a gaming PC for that same price that can run 1080p with medium+ settings and 2x anti-aliasing.

Thankfully, I do have a gaming PC, and it's a beast. It cost me $1500, though. :0

[sandman224]

Wow! Victory dance for ps4. It's about time they showed Sony some love.

[Sarobi]

And that settles that.

[solidboss07]

This is dissapointing. It tells me this game is not next-gen. I would be happier if both consoles ran it at 720p, but running smoother on PS4, signifying both consoles being pushed. This difference early on reflects a shit game, it doesn't 'honestly' reveal the performance gap that is there between consoles - we just shouldn't see it now, with a COD.

I will be getting a PS4 only. I am past gloating at XBoners, I am honestly angry for them now.

[akurtz]

Xbox 720 :/

[felidae]

haha .. not bad

not bad at all :)

[mhunterjr]

I'm not surprised that xb1 is having a bit of trouble at launch, it is the weaker of the two consoles. But at the same time, these are launch titles. When in the history of gaming have day 1 titles been indicative of a consoles maximum potential. When you see Forza 5 running at 1080p 60fps, you know that power isn't what's keeping COD from reaching that milestone.

[famoussasjohn]

Agreed. I do hope they're able to improve upon this after launch for future games. It's a bit of a downer that they aren't able to get it to native 1080p, but judging by what BF4 looks like between them, it will more than likely be pretty comparable between the two.

[hello12]

Sources say its the ESRAM. Developers are only still figuring it out and how best to use. Give it a about 6 months, most games on the XB1 will be running 1080p native.

PS4 just got their console out quicker to developers and had better development tools.

[RegorL]

I think the ESRAM is to small...

ESRAM/RGBpixel is an interesting measurement.
(note: now days you often render with float or ints with more bits, and you need at least two frames concurrently outputting one rendering the other)

RBG 8 bits / color

720p: 32MB/(1280×720×3)=12 .1
900p: 32MB/(1440x900×3)=8.6
1080p: 32MB/(1920x1080×3)=5.4

With more bits per pixel, triple buffered (not unlikely). And you really need some other buffers for lightning...

Moving things back and forth between ESRAM and SDRAM will not help the total bandwidth...

[boeso]

https://twitter.com/amboyes...

....tehee

[felidae]

has COD ever been about graphics?

it's a fun shooter, even in 720p!

[Ninjamonkey82]

Time to start looking at them receipts and thinking if your x1 investment is worth that extra $100 now.

[hello12]

Doesn't bother me. I accepted it a time ago, the PS4 was a better console for graphics, but it doesn't do much other than that. The XB1 has better features than the PS4-Dedicated servers been one of those better features!

The XB1 has also better first party line up of games and Titanfall is exclusive to XB1. So I'm sticking with my pre-order.

[Salta_nelas]

Ridiculous.

[Themba76]

LOL LOL LOL cod is the highest preordered game on the xbone just LOL !!!!

[MrZkaar]

Think a few just got cancelled.

[Neonridr]

I am not purchasing either of these consoles until sometime early next year, but Microsoft is doing a pretty easy job of making my mind up for me as to which of the two consoles I am going to go with.

Hint: It starts with a Play and ends with a Station 4..

;)

[dark_101]

well said
no rush in getting next consoles

[ZBlacktt]

And now people get it when Sony says most powerful console ever. Lords know if anyone on the planet wanted to make this game better on the X1. It would be the COD Dev's who have been in bed with MS since the start.

[MrZkaar]

What about the power of the cloud? /s

[Loki86]

People need to calm down, this is definitely because the tools for X1 weren't mature yet and developers have not had enough time with it. However, games like Ryse and Forza are pulling off 900p and 1080p and look five times better than Ghosts because they have had kits for over 2 years now. The post-launch 3rd party titles will be able to handle much higher resolutions.

EDIT: @Kakashi - Dev kits have been in third party devs hands since 2010 and a number have devs have said this time around PS4 is easier to develop for because of their unified memory system. Expect, much better titles post-launch.

[Kakashi Hatake]

PS4s tools aren't matured yet either. PS4 is just a more powerful console, thats all there is to it. It will always be ahead graphicially.

[iceman06]

Agreed...titles will look much better over time. However, this will be the case for BOTH systems. It's a matter of which console will reach it's ceiling first and how high that ceiling might be.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

The sky is falling!!! /s

look, I get how many of you will be hung up on the resolution angle of all of this. For myself, what I wanted from next gen wasn't about prettier games but more about smoother games that had better AI, Physix and really create worlds that were on the level of the graphics we already are seeing. I am not trying to say 1080p isn't better than 720p. I am just saying for me its not nearly as big of a deal.

[iceman06]

I agree with your basic premise. For me, I want it ALL!!! That's right...I want better performance, better physics, and AI. I think this is something that will come as the developers get used to the hardware.
A man can dream, right!?!?

[harveymp]

a storm is coming XD

[nitrogav]

The only way Infinity ward and Activision will learn is by nobody buying Cod ghosts . I was on the fence this year , not bought Cod since modern warefare . Then was WOW modern warefare was totally amazing and nothing came close . But every year since then every Cod LOOKS THE SAME . The low res textures are appalling . I could spot it a mile off yet everybody else were blind . This year I have pre ordered a PS4 . Really thought a new Cod for next gen was the way to go but I saw some footage last week . OMG Activision hasn`t learnt anything . Everybody save your money . DO NOT BUY GHOSTS !! .

[Ninjamonkey82]

Nah just buy it on PS4 :) Nah fuk it joking i cba with the game myself 94quid for the hardened edition on steam aswell what a load off tribe for a game that will play no different that the last games.

But COD has a big market off idiots that have been buying thi game no mater what sh1t has been thrown there ways.

I can not see this being any different. Activison can just open them big money bags and wait for the money to roll on in again.

[user9597082]

Doesn't really matter. In the past, the "more powerful" system has never been the one on top.

This just adds a little firepower to deluded fanboys looking for dick measuring contests.

[Neonridr]

I am sure the Vita is more powerful ratio wise to the 3DS than the PS4 is to the XB1, and clearly power doesn't matter there, it's the games.

However, that's the handheld market, where Nintendo is king. As far as Sony and MS goes, 3rd parties will be available on both, but it's the exclusives that will win the gamers over... and lately it seems like Sony has the better exclusives. Not to say that Microsoft doesn't have some killer titles themselves, but not nearly as many in my opinion..

[user9597082]

I'm not talking just handheld. Look at last console generation and the one before it. Xbox 360 was the more popular core gaming console even though it wasn't as powerful as the ps3. The playstation 2 was the weakest console of its generation (yes even the GameCube. The gamecubes limitations were due to smaller discs that couldn't contain as many assets) yet it's clearly the favorite from its time and you can still buy a factory sealed console at several retailers.

720p v 1080p is not the same kind of graphical gap that crippled the Wii 7 years ago with its 480p power.

So basically, if you believe in following the trends in history,

Power means nothing.

[svoulis]

"Doesn't really matter"

Hm I dunno I recall this constant debate about people saying it was all lies and rumors, and denying PS4 being more powerful then XO.

Just saying. If it wasn't a big deal why is this PS4 vs XO the biggest thing on N4G?

[gamertk421]

Not to worry. XB1 has an incredible hardware-based upscaler. The second wave of games will better use the SDK on Xbox, I guarantee it.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

I just hit Al Pernello on Twitter about this. And my tweet is getting favored. SMH..... But let me say this. There are games that are 1080p/60fps on the X1. I can give a pass for some Dev's if they are just starting to learn about the artitecture of the X1's eSRAM. I never knocked the positions of Dev's first production of the PS3 in the beginning. So I won't knock the X1. But on the other hand, I do want to see the response from MS about the low-res for two money-making franchises.

[GrandpaSnake]

i never knocked sony because the first game i bought was mgs4 then ff13, its all up to the devs.

[xKugo]

This is supposed to be a next-gen console??
Man, that's pathetic. Lmao

[DoesUs]

Next up AC4. As predicted months ago. And remember, this is WITH the additional bump to clock speeds! Now you can see why they had to do it. Its just a disaster. Wheres Green and Frigid?

[SliceOfTruth888]

I find it funny that if you look at the comparison pictured the Xbone looks better. Word has been that Xbone has an amazing upscaler...so nobody thinks maybe 720p upscaled on PS4 looked so bad they had to gimp visuals to get it to 1080p.

[NobleRed]

I told you before and I'm telling you now.

True Next Gen only on ps4.

Take this crapboners.

http://replygif.net/i/735.g...

COD on X-Box One with 720P what a joke.

[JonnyBigBoss]

This is beginning to sound eerily similar to the beginning of last-gen. Now the Sony trolls are being jerks.

Come on guys.

[Max-Zorin]

Some people are happy as hell.

[ma1asiah]

Well as per one of my last posts I seriously don't get all the fuss over the resolution that the game plays at.

Ones native 1080p with a 40GB+ install and ones 720p with a smaller install, both play at 60fps and the overall experience will be the same whether native or upscaled.

Does more pixels make COD Ghosts a 10/10 due to being 1080p on PS4.....answer no it doesn't.

Does it mean one machine is more powerful well possibly so but it wont have any more on screen then the one at 720p it will just look better on people's TV's that are 40" and over.

Has this news caused me to cancel my preordered X1....answer FUDGE NO!!!!

Has it turned me off getting COD Ghost and cancelled that preorder due to this news.....answer FUDGE NO!!!

Life still goes on and I am still as excited as ever for the 22nd to come and the launch of the X1....nothing has changed.

Also to put something else into perspective at least for consumers in NZ and remember I am comparing a standard or day one launch edition of the X1 with an equivalent PS4. Not bundle deals

PS4 = $649.00 does not come with the PSeye and no free retail game (can't really count FTP titles that one can play right now on PC), especially now DriveClub has been delayed

X1 = $749.00 it comes bundled with Kinect 2.0 and a free copy of FIFA 14 that retails at $108.00 NZ

Now the PS4 Eye in NZ goes for $108.00 NZ
A copy of FIFA 14 goes for $180.00 NZ

So there are two ways you could look at it take off $216.00 from the X1 price tag that would make it $533.00 NZ. Or you add $216.00 to the PS4 and you get $865.00 NZ

Now in my country the X1 would appear to be the cheaper option not the PS4.

Granted you could argue that FTP games at launch adds more value and due to a technicality you would be correct though it could also be argued that if you already have a gaming PC well then you could just get these same FTP games on PC.

Something else to clear up as well is all games even disk games on PS4 need to be installed

http://venturebeat.com/2013...

Funny I guess that is also the same as the X1, not at developers discretion as some would have you think

@ cell989

$350.00 tops in whose currency, because that is complete BS for New Zealand???

Because to build or buy a similar specd PC in New Zealand you are not going to pull this off for anything less than $900.00 NZ.

Which makes both the X1 and the PS4 awesome value in New Zealand.

[cell989]

the problem with you math is that even without KInect, the xbone SHOULD cost less than the PS4 lol $350.00 tops

[Idba]

You can count on the f2p games because they will run maxed out on PS4. Planetside 2, Blacklight and Waframe are just some of the many f2p games. And when DC launches we get the PS+ edition for free.

[ma1asiah]

@ idba Wait on so if I have a gaming rig now and can play them all maxed out as of right now for free, that somehow does not count????

Free is free and if I can get it elsewhere without having to buy or invest in a PS4 or wait until the 29th (PS4 launch date in NZ) then what that somehow makes my argument wrong.

Please explain

FIFA 14 in New Zealand will be free for all preorderd X1's I cant get it right now for free on PC and I will not get it free with a PS4.

Is this not the same as getting Titanfall for PC rather than getting an X1.....in respect of your FTP argument.

[Kujii]

Cost of Next Gen Consoles in NZ sucks. This is why I can only afford one console right now.

In my opinion I think
Better Graphics > Kinect 2.0

Yes Fifa comes free but its nowhere near as popular in New Zealand. And I can forsee alot of digital download codes being sold on trademe.

[ma1asiah]

back on topic someone somewhere stated that 720p is what current gen consoles acheive with COD.

umm apparently not when it comes to COD

Black Ops: sub HD
X360 = 1040x600
PS3 = 960x540

Black Ops 2: sub HD
X360 = 880x720
PS3 = 864x720

Plus both Modern Warfare2 and 3 were also both sub HD and definitely not 720p

[ma1asiah]

Something else people should note with the whole argument that a lesser resolution cannot look better than a higher resolution might need to tell that to the guys over at eurogamer

"with Black Ops 2; native resolution is now 880x720 on Xbox 360 with 2x MSAA. It may sound somewhat on the low side, but kudos to Treyarch here - the upscaling algorithm is remarkably refined when viewed in motion. The overall impression is that this is the crispest COD we've seen on 360. As you'll see in the comparison viewer below, the upscaled image generally compares quite well with the PC version running at native res."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

This game had the lowest resolution of all the COD games on current generation consoles prior to COD Ghost and yet the general concensus was that Black Ops 2 was the best looking COD game.

But hey what ever

[ambientFLIER]

880x720 comes out to more overall pixels than 1040x600, so Black Ops 2 has a higher resolution than any COD before it.

[cell989]

its funny cause even without Kinect, the XBONE should cost less than the PS4 lol

Anyway, damn this is sad, COD at 720P those graphics are going to make people cringe. Im not a big fan of COD anymore, but I will probably end up getting this for PS4, my FPS fix will be more than complete.

I still dont see how the xbone can justify $500.00 + $60.00 for COD ghosts at 720P. Unless youre going to game on a 32" screen.

Good thing they atleast they boosted the clock speed on the CPU, or they be in an even worse position.

[Croc-A-Doodle-Doo]

PS4 looking stronger and stronger every day. Didn't think that there would be this huge of a gap at launch, but I guess I was wrong.

[bornsinner]

hmm this is a huge thing but a game like cod has never been about visuals, xbone still has the upper hand because of dedicated servers, ps4 will never have that lol even tho activison made some poop about hybrid servers lol

[TristanPR77]

Still on denial I see. Face reality and stop making excuses.

[Skynetone]

xbox fans appreciate the fine art of weather apps then the fine art of video games

[PS4isKing_82]

Just cancelled my Xbox one pre order and getting a ps4 once more become availble.

[NobleRed]

Well done. Don't waste your money on more expensive and weaker hardware.

[Chris12]

Of course you had one on order with a name like that. No one denies the PS4 is more powerful but you have to accept people are buying XB1 for the games. Ryse, DR3 and Forza with Titanfalll to come. It's not all about the numbers

[FuturePerspective]

Forza is the only title running native 1080p and 60fps on Xbox One, but it's not exactly a difficult game to render.. Sony's Gran Turismo 6 runs 720p-1080p at 60fps on PS3!

[thoract]

You Xbots are some of the most delusional people ever. This is proof that the power of the 2 systems are not equal. Yes, they both use the same processor and that is it. Aside from that the whole architecture of the 2 system's are different.

Ryse 900p, an exclusive title developed exclusively for the xbone did not hit 1080p. So please don't blame developers for this. It is your beloved MS that is to blame.

[JunioRS101]

Cloud? Or Rain Cloud...

[JunioRS101]

Wait, isn't that... the same resolution... as xbox 360...?

At least you have a better... camera?... yeah...

[Kakashi Hatake]

Cancelling my XBox One preorder

[gnothe1]

im gone leave this right here.... http://n4g.com/news/48669/m...

this is basically the same right?

[TheGrimReaper]

If you had the joy developing on a Cell like I did at my university, you would know that this is not the same ^^

nearly Same Code -> worse performance on Cell
optimized code -> nearly the same performance maybe a bit better performance on Cell
rewriting everything from scratch with Cell in mind -> serious brainfuck for me back then, but superior performance!

Also consider the following:
Sonys tools were crap
Big memory footprint of PS3s OS (still not as small as 360s, even worse at that time)
Worse GPU but not by much
Split memory

So the PS3 was better on paper mainly due the Cell but it took a lot of effort to learn how to use it.

Now we know this:
Xbox One is weaker on paper

And we can assume the following:
Even though ESRAM isn't something new, it appears to be a problem for now. Tools will get better, developers will be better at optimizing but that won't make the hardware better.

[TristanPR77]

The xbox community will not accept this, they will reject reality once again and will say that 720p looks more impressive than native 1080p.

And Microsoft is asking $500 for this inferior console. Amazing.

[sashimi]

What are you talking about the info on the back of the x1 box says 1080p just like on 360 version of call of duty...

[ipach]

1080p native and 60fps? yes, sir!

[cyhm3112]

haha, stupid microsoft

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Stupid MS? CoD is not an MS first party game. Turn 10 is and they are doing 1080p 60fps. Can we use the same excuses we did for the PS3 that third parties don't understand the power? Or is that only a one way street?

[PsylentKiller]

I want to believe that they just didn't have enough time with the development tools. But Crytek, even though they say it was a design choice, couldn't get to 1080p. Now, it may be true that PS4 has no choice but to get to 1080p because they're upscaler is not good and so they sacrifice other things to hit the 1080 mark. However, with all the buzzards circling over MS, no one will believe that. They will simply look back at the track record of MS and just shake their head and say "typical Microsoft, tsk tsk."

[bligmerk]

Staying with the name Xbox 720p would have been more descriptive and accurate. Not good marketing though ...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

This is very disappointing for a game that doesn't look very next-gen. Not that I am basing my purchases on a game being native 1080p or not it just seems third parties are going to struggle this gen again. The fact it took all this time to get a simple answer means they couldn't spin it.

You have the best looking launch game in Ryse at 900p so it's not like it is a visual deal breaker but damn.

[sniperkr]

720p on COD with a old engine with some updates...
720p on TitanFall with a Source Engine??

[RandomDude655]

720p on IDTech 1

[Mister_G]

4 > 1

[windblowsagain]

Not sure this is a surprise to xbox fans or anyone for that matter.

Lets look at a cod game on PC and it's benchmarks for 7770+

http://www.techspot.com/rev...

[PSnation4]

well this proves microsoft made the xbox one for entertainment(tv,aps,etc.) first and gaming 2nd..still getting the xbone next year when theres a bundle or price drop

[jacksfr1]

If you want xbox so much the best thing to do is to wait

[MegaRay]

Haha. Dont buy the bone untill its get a price drop atleast 100 dollars. Dont worry it gonna drop faster than a rabbit with boots

[N8]

That pretty crazy. They better have a lot of exclusives coming because unless u like kinect and TV over gaming you should get a ps4. I want an x1 but don't wanna get it for just dead rising and titanfall

[PsylentKiller]

Hopefully, I can find a PS4 on store shelves sometime before Christmas. GameStop just told me today that XB1 preorders are available again. MS doesn't look like it's going to recover from this.

[Goku781]

720p but Xbox One will always have some excuse.

[horndog]

Like I was going to buy it anyways. The funny thing is it will still sell more on x1

[joefrost00]

You all do know that the wii u version 1080p also
It was just simply MS late with the new dev kits so X1 got an port

[Mister_Dawg]

Whats with all the ball bags on this site, beating up on Jokes On You?

You get together with your pack mentality and go for the one person who has any balls to speak up for himself.
Its very easy to shout from behind a shit load of other people, much harder to speak out when you know everyone else is gonna give you a fucking roasting.

Jesus titty fucking christ. Its bloody obvious the XBO can handle 1080p COD. Fuck sake, my ancient athlon x2 with a horse shit graphics card can do it. Its got the hardware, but for whatever reason which is not clear right now, its not delivering the goods at the higher resolutions.

And don't give me any 50% bullshit. Everyone knows the PS4 is more powerful, but that has fuck all to do with the XBO not hitting 1080p in COD.

My mate built a pc this year which has a gpu which is way faster than mine, but we both play at 1080p and same detail settings. Just at different frame rates. Mine is still very playable.

Now if anyone wants to pick on somebody else. Then fucking come on. Pussies!

[feraldrgn]

"Its bloody obvious the XBO can handle 1080p COD."

& yet...

[LeCreuset]

And there goes his internet warrior false bravado. Destroyed by the first response.

[Max-Zorin]

Just let it go. Console fans are like Kobe fans. You can't tell them anything.

[GarrusVakarian]

There's a difference between speaking up for himself and straight up denial.

[assdan]

You're pretty cool. Do the math, the PS4's gpu is about 44% stronger than the xbone. That wouldn't be a huge deal, but then you take into the 3times higher bandwidth, and you realize why it's stronger. If the xbone can't send the data fast enough, it's power doesn't matter. Which you can do the whole if you add in esram BS. But many computer programmers and tech people have said adding them together is an inaccurate representation of bandwidth that oversimplifies a complex subject. Now, I agree that this difference is pretty damn huge, but I will not be surprised to see more games with different resolutions.

[KontryBoy706]

man it amazes me how people can STILL DAMAGE CONTROL FOR MICROSOFT. It's unreal!

[Mister_Dawg]

Hey Kunt.

Show me where I was employing damage control for Microsoft.

Go on Kunt.
I dare you Kunt.

;)

[KontryBoy706]

"people" does not mean "Mister_Dawg". What are you 12?

[Angels3785]

He must be he spelled "cunt" wrong.....

[FlyingFoxy]

And this is why i still game @ 1080p on PC, you still need fairly beefy hardware to stay above 60fps in the newest games.

[MrPerfect813]

Amazingly the other 90% of the people that preordered their ps4 or X1 wont care about this. They will ask about the release date, and the DLC.

[Ukdude]

Depends how good the Ones upscaler is, for instance its a well known fact that on a 1080p tv if a film is upscaled from 720p to 1080i then its virtually impossible to tell the difference compared to 1080p.(on a good upscaler)

You watch the final comparisons when launched, any difference will be hardly be seen to the naked eye.
(don't judge previous released vids as there not final builds)

Also,breaking news:
http://www.trustedreviews.c...

On top of the always on light sensor and no dvd/blu ray support unless day one patch is downloaded.
All the bad news lately could have been released months ago,Sony a nice honest company?My ar@e!

[Mister_Dawg]

Maybe. But I'd still prefer progressive to interlaced. Screen flicker can be headache.

[OrangePowerz]

No external HDD support and always on light sensor is know for a long time.

DVD/Blu Ray needs an internet activation not the firmware update and that`s known since last week.

Who really cares much about playing music on it? It`s a games console not a HiFi system.

[Reem]

A lot of people canceled their preorders because of this, Xbone is done, PS4 will maul Xbone!

[Max-Zorin]

I'm gonna look into PC gaming and see how that work out.

[n4rc]

Well... At least its official now.. I was getting tired of rumors

[Valkyre]

Those XBOXONE tears are DELICIOUS!!!!

I guess everyone with a good internet connection will be able to play the game in 1080p with the POWER OF TEH CLOUD!!!

INFINITE POWAH!!

More tears please!!

[LeCreuset]

Alright everybody. Calm down. Put away the rulers. Let's end the measuring contest and start using some common sense here. Do you really think the Xbox One can't run a crap game like COD at 1080p/60fps?

There's only one logical reason that Ghosts is 720p on Xbox One: LAZY DEVELOPERS! Lazy, lazy, lazy developers that were obviously more interested in just cashing in on the popularity of the license than in... than in... than in... <snickers>... than in looking for that hidden second GPU so the game could run at 1080p/60fps! Bwahaha!

[Valkyre]

its nice to know that lazy developers can get the PS4 version to run at 1080p with no problems at all. ;)

[LeCreuset]

Of course. They didn't have a hidden second gpu to look for in the PS4. ;)

[quenomamen]

Funny how nobody brings that up anymore when that's all the fanboys where crowing about on N4G not more than a month ago. Ooh and lets not forget about that 100 MHz or whatever the hell it was speed bump they gave the CPU and GPU. Hell if it wasn't for that Ghosts might be stuck at 700p !

[turgore]

Damn. I wonder at what framerate both consoles run at.

[ShwankyShpanky]

60

[PharaohX]

I am going to be honest and say I am disappointed in this news. What it means is I will not buy anything that is of lower resolution than the PS4. So in this regards I will get the PS4 version of games that are multiplat that are not of the higher standard. I am hanging my head on the news but will support PS4 when it comes down to it. If the Xbox can make games to the higher standard then I will buy it on Xbox 1. This is really crap news and Activision and Microsoft can kiss some sales bye cause who wants a lower spec game???

[Minute Man 721]

I cant wait til the X1 reaches $250 was gonna get one next year but it's not worth $500 not even $300 :(

[Nachoman32]

Why is this a surprise and why are people still debating over the power of xbox1 vs PS4. I mean in terms of pure hardware SPECS it is MATHEMATICALLY impossible for these consoles to be on par. Yes people it was proven with SCIENCE!!!

I mean the PS4 has almost twice the amount of stream processors. Can process more memory at a higher bandwidth, and has a 500 gflop power advantage.

And yet I still hear stuff like well its just not optimized...

[Bio_Mod]

I'm not buying it its Cod ffs
still I wonder what the excuse will be.......

[larrysdirtydrawss]

Well its a no buy for me because they either rushed it or just didnt put alot of effort into it. The game is not graphically demanding so theres no way it shouldnt be 1080p on X1 when there are other games that can with better graphics.

Sounds like a launch window rushed port to make a buck. Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish, they just didn't have proper time with the final hardware and instead pushing it back, they rather keep the launch date purely for financial reasons.

Also enough with the lying, sure he may have been on the road but he sure as hell saw all the resolution fuss, just waiting closer to release for damage control, also isnt this the same guy boasting before about 1080p on X1?
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed.

river/egypt...... btw dr3 isnt a graphical demanding game, it may have zombies everywhere,but they have the brains of fleas. their just fodder,

[marcofdeath]

the Sony PlayStation 4 is the worst designed console ever right next to 3D0. Everyone is running around saying the PlayStation 4 is 900p upscaled to 1080p but that 1080p is produced at a graphic level lower than a console with only 720p. how is it that your 900p upscaled to 1080p is weaker than XBO1 720p? That is pathetic.... your 900p does not look as good as RYSE's 900p upscale to 1080p . there has not been one in game shot of the textures from a PS4 game that has matched those of an Xbox one game. please do not show me those stupid CG rendered non-in game shots of kill zones characters because when I played the game they look absolutely nothing like them. If your system had a 500GF power advantage it would show you idiots but it has not in one single game so far....

FM5 VS Driver Club winner FMS 5 in all categories.
RYSE VS infamous winner RYSE texture map quality, lighting,
draw distance,
no popping,
no 2D trees
BF4 not final build winner XB1 sharpness,
color clarity,
texture map quality,
versus PS4
better AA
by the way EA has already said that Xbox one was not the final build. So will you be able to keep the last one?
so keep telling yourself that your system is better?

[MRMagoo123]

let that rage and denial out its the first step to letting it go, calm down have a juice box maybe a nap and then come back to the thread, the ps4 is the more powerful console its a fact there is no amount of cryinf raging or tantrums that will change that, if you are getting an xbone good on you you will have fun on it but the ps4 WILL have the better performing games and thats it.

[marcofdeath]

there is no denial there's only visible proof, please post a link to a game that looks better on PS4, it's not BF4. COD will look better at 720p than PS4 at 1080p watch and see.

[mixelon]

Wow. I think you might actually be insane?

(No offence to anyone with mental health issues)

[marcofdeath]

Again post a in game screen shot of any PS4 game that looks better than RYSE? and you like the rest will post nothing................. I have visual proof and you have already seen it.

[mixelon]

"Better" is subjective. TECHNICALLY kzsf has more impressive graphics. Ryse is lower res and has small playable areas. You have to compare like for like or it doesn't mean much. If you don't think the next gen God Of War isnt going to be clearly "better" looking then Ryse you're in for a surprise.

Personally i'd say there are current gen games with "better" graphics than Ryse, too. Why do you expect everything to be in place at launch? You know good artists + more powerful hardware = superior graphics. You have years of this stuff to look forward to.

[Flutterby]

Well the kill zone vid up right now looks miles better than ryse so that's one example , bf4 looks better on ps4 and plays better as well even ps4 MP looks better than the xbone SP, then I can bet COD will without a doubt be better looking on ps4 considering its 1080p native. The denial in you is beyond professional help, take a look around the Internet everyone but retard xbone fanboys day ps4 version of BF4 looks the best lol. You and the other xbone trolls are the only ones that think it looks better on the xbone . Lie all you want but facts are facts and the fact is the ps4 is better for games.

[marcofdeath]

Note not one picture or links to this video. By the way it's running on a PC/development kit. As far as battlefield 4 goes it's a fact that even at 900P your textures look like shit, that's not subjective as that's fact. Why do you think Sony had to control the type of video capture because it's shit. you can bitch about about crushed blacks and sharpness levels turned up but at the end of the day that does nothing to change your texture maps detail still look like shit.

[Polysix]

EL-OH-EL! :)

Don't say we didn't warn you Xbots.

[GamingFan1]

OMG!!!! My dad can beat up your dad. Grow up people. Know wonder so many people think gamers are a bunch of immature kids. Quite sad really

[Reborn]

If your making assumptions about a group of people, based on the actions of a few.. then I'd say it's those who are quite sad, no?

Some posts are legitimate, even amongst the blatant "I win, you lose" mentality on display.

[johnny555]

I'm sure they just didn't know they could use the power of 300,000 servers sitting on the cloud...... /sarcasm

I am not a fan of they reusing the same game year over year just to make money instead of taking their time to build a proper sequel..... but I blame the millions and millions of gamers that buy the game every year..... all that being said, I really can't believe that the XBONE could not run this game at 1080P...... those graphics are bad.

[blahblah123]

eSRAM is just a word people use here. A lot of common CPU implementations use eDRAM, eSRAM. It comes down to how they are implemented to make the back end work that big a deal. I bet it comes down more to poor dev tools and a late hardware lock. Why have all the XBO demos been so dependent on PC hardware until very recently? This is a mad, mad rush at Microsoft. The company as a whole got away with shipping unfinished crap for 20 years and now it's time to pay the piper.

In a year you'll probably see XBO claw back some of the gap. But the industry is in a pretty shaky state of flux as it is. What indie or AAA developer really wants to wait a year? The mass public are generally afraid to spend $500 on a game console where the software costs $60 a pop when the same millions are dropping the same or more money on Galaxy Notes, iPhones, iPads and Nexus tablets every six months for 99 cent apps.

Who really can afford to wait a year for a beta test to end in this market?

[MAULxx]

Although I'm a bit surprised that the Xbone can't squeeze the juice for a COD game, it's not too shocking. With the decisions MS has made for this system, I think it's obvious now that running games was #3 on the list. #1&2 being TV features & Kinect implementation. As much as I have bashed them for their design decisions it's still disappointing to think what the Xbone could have been & what they have turned it into. A frankenstein system. Maybe it will do Kinect & TV well, it should, seeing that the gaming may be the weakest link. If Kinect usage & TV features aren't that great then it really will be a Bone. A Bone with MS's surcharge on everything.

[GraveLord]

Those fanboys who kept denying it all this time can finally shut up.

How many of these rumors need to come true before they stop giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt?

Buy your Xbox One, no one cares, but don't defend a sub-par product because of it. Don't be a fanboy.

[mixelon]

The WiiU/X1/PS4 comparison videos are going to be really weird for Ghosts.

Interesting times for gaming.

[Hakoom]

i wonder what will happen in 3 years..
can we see more than 1080p?

[quaneylfc]

can someone tell me (put your fanboy back in the gay closet for a minute)

how will this affect me, im getting an xbox one

without saying : unlucky its shit! haha

how will this affect my experience and- if possible, how it will benefit me

[mixelon]

Do you have a 1080p TV? If not.. Nothing to worry about.

If you DO have a 1080p TV - you'd get a significantly better picture quality (more detail, less jaggy pixels) from the PS4 version. Thats all really. They'll play identically.

There's absolutely no way this news could benefit you unless you're allergic to 1080p or something.

[ZorinInc]

Gay closest? Do us all a favour and stick with the Xbox One and enjoy the homophobia of Live. That's where you belong.

I'm going to hate seeing a migration of your type coming back to PlayStation.

[wishingW3L]

it means you're paying more for less.

[hobbitooo]

buying xbox one is like buying a dvd player with upscale function to full hd

[bligmerk]

Ouch!

[Mini0510]

I like how kids on the internet accusing other people's logic is flawed while it's actually their own.

*cough @JokesOnYou cough*

This kid is just butthurt that xbox one is not 1080p. And it's hilarious when the kid said, "oh 360 is running ghosts at 720p, and xbox one is also running ghosts at 720p? They rushed the game."

LMAO
Isn't it obvious that the 360 version graphics is worse? Apparently only the resolution = graphics superiority now LOL

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

You know that still, this game will be sold and played mostly on XBOX consoles.

[Metfanant]

Poor frigid...and green powers....and misterX

[ziggurcat]

misterx seems heartbroken today.

[NewShadow101]

I. GPU Tradeoffs, 720p vs. 1080p Resolution Gaming Explained.

Comments Mr. Baker:

We've chosen to let title developers make the trade-off of resolution vs. per-pixel quality in whatever way is most appropriate to their game content. A lower resolution generally means that there can be more quality per pixel. With a high-quality scaler and antialiasing and render resolutions such as 720p or '900p', some games look better with more GPU processing going to each pixel than to the number of pixels; others look better at 1080p with less GPU processing per pixel.

Microsoft also revealed that it's mandating at least 2x anti-aliasing in all its titles, a guideline that had not yet received significant media attention. Additionally, Mr. Baker and Mr. Goosen detail in the interview how the Xbox One operating system, firmware, and hardware are designed to allow system apps (e.g. a messaging client) to run alongside games

alright... so what im gathering is, 720p is now confirmed to be superior to 1080p. BOY O BOY did i screw up on buying my tv, and all my blu-rays, and thinking about buying a NEXT GEN CONSOLE... im lost, im gonna go play my GameBoy Color.

[wishingW3L]

he's not saying that 720p is better than 1080p.

Unlike PC the resources are fixed on consoles, so they can't push everything at the same time. Example: Killzone SF might be 1080p but GG must have made some trade-offs somewhere like: campaign not 60 frames locked or dynamic destruction like BF4. If the PS4 rendered Killzone SF at 720p there would be more resources to push other stuff like: higher frame-rate, more dynamic destruction, more enemies on screen, etc.

But I'm not saying that the PS4's isn't more powerful than the XB1 (because it is) but that unlike PC, game development on consoles is about choosing a balance. In the case of the XB1's weaker hardware, because it has a hardware based upscaler the console can achieve better results by rendering games at 720p while using the rest of the resources to push other aspects that would help it achieve similar quality results to the PS4's. So what I'm trying to say with this is that the XB1 could render COD at 1080p but by sacrificing many more things than the PS4 would have to and the end result would be worse than going for 720p, and in a way this is the message that Mr. Baker is trying to convey.

[svoulis]

http://i.imgur.com/QfbvT7R....

I did this on my PC to show people the "quality" difference of 720p vs 1080p. I did NOT alter anything, just simply re-sized the 720p footage to match 1080p dimensions.

make sure to see it at 100%

and right now you can all disagree if you want, talk about your scaler on the XO, sure but this was also DONE ON A PC with all settings turned up only thing changed was FOV and resolution.

[obliterator]

That's fantastic work svoulis. Thank you and bubs up =)

[FlunkinMonkey]

Good work.. Bubs + - interesting.

[svoulis]

Here is a better example ( i just took the image and put it on top of one another.)

http://tinyurl.com/lderhog

[mistertwoturbo]

Imagine this on a 55"+ TV... Yikes

[strigoi814]

BF4 then this wow whats next?? Watch Dogs and Destiny?? $100 more..lolz this console is a bad joke...

and they are really confident of being upscaled to 4k resolution lolz

pre order cancelled

[UncleGermrod]

I get the frustration and i get that the xbox is not as powerful as ps4, but i saw some dopes claiming it isnt next gen. thats just BS, the xb1 deff has enough power to hold its own and make very nice looking games. multiplats will not be all that diff. sony exclusives will continue to push the limits and we will see some great things, but xbox exclusives will looks very nice as well. both are next gen...just that ps4 is a little more future proof. the whole cloud thing should have never been touted as being a graphics buff. MS is getting all this heat because they couldnt just be honest in the first place. both systems have their place and i really wouldnt let some resolution diffs spoil it for me. I promise u side by side on a 50" screen or below that 8/10 wont tell the diff. Either way i have to give it to sony, they really nailed it this gen. MS seems to still be searching for that wii money. I do think both consoles are gonna flourish tho. w.e. ill have both and at the end of the day i will be doing my online gaming via xb live, be at at 720 or not. ps4 will be there for anythign else

[nub_cakes101]

http://i.imgur.com/iJ7qlHS....

[andron]

No wonder MS didn't want to call it Xbox 720...

[MightyNoX]

My only hope is that this is a rude awakening to the people that have been lied to time and time again.

Wake up, people, Baghdad Nelson and Penello have lied to you repeatedly.

[mmj]

"This rather proves it's not as much about GPU prowess and more about that terribly sized ESRAM."

No it's not (although the ESRAM compounds problems for Xbone).

When it comes to resolution it is primarily down to GPU power, to push that many pixels and effects you need a powerful GPU which is something M$ have skimped on.

People have been saying that the PS4 GPU is much faster for a while, yet M$ distracted everyone with comparatively minor ESRAM debates, now we see the first (extremely popular) multiplatform game using that extra power to push over twice as many pixels.

Even now in these comments people still believe that the issue is developers not using ESRAM properly, which is credit to how well Microsoft have distracted people from the huge disparity in GPU power.

[Ukdude]

Nice to see NPS4G headlining the none extractable ps4 hard drive news!

Looks to me this 720p story is blown up,developers never got the kits till months after ps4 ones,also the one takes twice as long to programme add in the stories about the tools not yet being up to scratch then its no surprise!
Devs will unleash the power within 12 months once everythings calmed down ,just needs a little time thats all

[_FantasmA_]

Isn't ironic that Jokes is the joke of this website. His name really was a poor choice of words.

[user7402931]

haha yes it is.

[Valkyre]

4 BILLION TRANSISTORS!!!

POWER OF THE CLOUD!!

'nough said!

[andibandit]

Really hope that alot of xbox cod players switch to ps4 because of this....then maybe ms will wake up and do things properly the gen after next gen

[ZorinInc]

How's this still not the top story? 500+ comments but still no higher than third.

This is one of the defining moment of this console gen.

[Cyanide85]

Doesn't that equate to like 125% better resolution on the PS4? I'm going back to calling it the Xbox 720.

[svoulis]

I made this to help people see it better.

Tell me you don't see the difference...PLEASE tell me.

As I said before all settings on PC are maxed out except for FOV and resolution. No filters no sharpening nothing.

http://tinyurl.com/lderhog

[jackdaddy]

I see the difference, i am sure many people will.
But there will always people who don't want to see, happy to pretend unacceptable levels of 'next-gen quality' is ok for them, and then give off silly reasons.
This is not about people who choose to buy the Xbone but the ones who really should know what they are talking about when they clearly don't.

PS4 and PC for me, the 360 got sold yesterday, bring on proper next gen gaming !!

[tontontam0]

Maybe the cost of kinect is more than $100.

If not microsoft has no excuse for selling inferior hardware.

[ATi_Elite]

So let me get this straight, COD:G is 720p on the XB1!

So Gamers gotta wait till XBoxTwo to get 1080p Gaming?

Microsoft promised 1080p Gaming with the xbox360 and DID NOT deliver.

Now the XB1 can not deliver 1080p Gaming, NO one is buying a Surface Tablet, GFWL officially Died this month, Windows Phones are Garbage, plus Windows 8 SUCKS!

Can you say STOCK PRICE DROP!

This January 2014 I enter 4K Gaming meanwhile these Clowns at Microsoft are trying to sell a $500 console that's stuck at 720p Gaming.

It's Official.....Go buy a PS4 or a PC as I can only smh at Microsoft's LAME decision making.

[user7402931]

revenge is sweet

greatness awaits

[brianunfried]

That's a shame, last generation was the generation of 720p. This new generation is the generation of 1080p. Especially since 4k in coming over the horizon.

[ziggurcat]

hahaha misterx seems really heartbroken on his delusioblog today over CoD being 720p.

[Tzuno]

lol both are under 1080p so... go get a Pc this gen, really. This next gen thing is fooling people.

[James Vanderbeek]

why would anyone want an xbox 1 now? id be pissed. its pretty much a 360 with up scaled graphics

[rainhell77]

I have to say as an xbox gamer that makes me a bit disappointed but I will still buy an xbox one for online gaming.

[Kidmyst]

The PC specs for COD Ghosts looked pretty high for the game when the game looks like Black Ops 2, so I'm surprised the XBone can't do native 1080P when the PC min req. are what they are. Makes me question if the game will run on PC's smoother if they don't meet the min. req. for it. I'd get this for PS4 but most guys I know who play it, will all get it for PC.

[Bigc32]

Ps fans calm down. Ya"ll act like the game with 1080p gonna give the game extra powers in the game or more levels or vehicles lol no. The only diff. U get better vision of the game but not by a lot. As I was watching video n it's been confirmed that the xb1 has better texture in game n lighting. While ps4 looks great with few extra clouds in back , extra depth in color but some of its blurry. Not all thats gonna matter n when xb1 comes out u get more out that console then ps4 . I had ps1,,2,3 n all xboxs. For me yes ps has better graphics but that's all it could offer, n for xbox it offer multi-player games while ps is better graphical , xb1 is the better online n u ps fans can't deny that . I'll be happy playin my 720p games online hearing people talk while u ps play 1080 with crickets online. The other reason I went with Xbox the games we got more games as of now n new ones while of course ps offers another kill zone at launch lol that game looks good but part three played like shit , short maps n to easy online half time feels like im playing bots.