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DriveClub Right Now is “Running at 1080p@30fps”, Delay Statement Had Nothing to do With Watch Dogs

"When it comes to narrowing down the DriveClub release date to more than ‘early 2014′ the developer said, “There are many things that need to be confirmed before we can be more specific.”" - PSLS

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ZodTheRipper3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

They weren't joking 3 months ago!
https://twitter.com/DRIVECL...

My excitement for this game is now officially over 9000! I mean just look at it
https://www.facebook.com/ph...

xHeavYx3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

I don't see a big problem with 30fps, especially when the game has 3D background and great lightning effects, like a next gen racing game should have

ProjectVulcan3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Project Gotham series is the best more arcade style racer with real supercars I have played on the current generation, even now PGR3 and 4 are just brilliant games. They look fantastic, they handle superb, the game is immense fun online and off.

Its 30FPS, and I don't care. It doesn't matter. It wouldn't be a much much better game if it ran 60FPS. It would be smoother, but the performance at 30FPS is so good and so solid and stable it doesn't really matter in the slightest. The motion blur is beautiful high quality and smoothes out any doubts you are playing a class act.

If Driveclub looks this pretty which is fantastic and runs rock solid 30FPS with zero screen tearing then it'll matter not.

If it means to be a sim, 60FPS matters because you want that sort of response and faster physics engine. But if it isn't, its never been a deal breaker.

Evil_Abed3823d ago

It's amusing how important things like fluidity of a racer is being replaced by fog and moving clouds and talks of lighting that matters very little when you are going at 200km/h.

Funny how next gen now means sacrificing a gameplay feature for looks. How about a game that does ALL those things while maintaining a fluid frame rate? Now that game I'd crown next gen racer, not just the decide based on what the developers on my favorite console are able to do.

UltimateMaster3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

That's disappointing, 30fps.
I wish it were 60fps.

ohiostatesman3823d ago

Forza is 1080P 60 fps. I thought PS4 more powerful? I'm getting Xbox One anyway.

BBBirdistheWord3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

driveclub looks to be a good game with nice fog.

However, I was expecting much more from the ps4.

30fps for a racer on ps4 is just not that impressive, especially after all the noise that was made about the magic of ps4 50%+.

I was really hoping the additional development time resulting from the delay would sort this out, but it looks like its gonna chugg along at 30fps after all.

FamilyGuy3823d ago

Fanboys are scared of this game, true racing fans can appreciate the amount of detail in this game.

Evil_Abed3823d ago

True racing fans appreciate smooth gameplay.

Army_of_Darkness3823d ago

Let's hope they surprise us all with 1080p @60fps when it finally releases.

cleft53822d ago

They definitely made the right move to delay the game. Hopefully they can get it to 1080p@60fps.

Sirlancealot3822d ago

All these Forza 5 guys quit it for real. This doesn't look any better than Drive Club.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here is a comparison of Forza 4 and Forza 5. Forza 5 looks very much like its current gen counterpart. No big difference. Just the lighting and slightly more detail coupled with it being 1080p @ 60FPS as opposed to 720p @ 60FPS...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

UltimateMaster3822d ago

@ohiostatesman

Driveclub does not equal Forza Motorsport 5

http://ca.ign.com/videos/20...
http://ca.ign.com/videos/20...

And whatever you do, don't compare gameplay skill...

At least the Forza has a guiding line just like what Gran Turismo has.

IMO, the background of the races on the PS4, at least for those 2 tracks, looks like it has far more details, looks richer due to the GPU.

I'm guessing they could make some tracks that are 60fps. I don't know.

Irishguy953822d ago

If a Racing game wants to compete with the best, it needs 60FPS. Most of the above comments are literally saying it's ok to have ****er gameplay so better graphics can be done. Sorry, Racing games are one of the Genre's that need the 60. ****ing shame I won't be getting a racing fix on Ps4 for a while. Dammit I wish GT6 was made for Ps4 originally.

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AngelicIceDiamond3823d ago

Great to see a new Ip such as Drive Club hit 1080P right off the bat.

nukeitall3823d ago

Good?

Why is this game still 30fps?

It was supposed to be release in 3 weeks, but got delayed.

Enemy3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Why is Forza still using static backdrops and baked lighting? I thought this was next gen? Bragging about 60fps is worthless when that's how you get it done.

WickedLester3823d ago

Yeah, I would much rather see them get this game to 60fps. Perhaps they should take a cue from DICE and make it 900p and then upscale it to 1080p. The difference would be hardly noticable at all!

arexw3823d ago

Cos forza is a driving simulator, and driveclub is a weather and geological simulator. Enjoy the stuttery 30 fps in a racing game - i mean sunset simulator

mkis0073823d ago

@arexw haha, screw the world, lets just put cars on a track and call it a game.

Xsilver3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

i see people still acting like the game releases next smh https://www.facebook.com/ph...
http://n4g.com/news/1381642...
http://n4g.com/news/1381232...
http://n4g.com/news/1380899...
clearly you can see the game is making allot of improvements so can you guys let the devs breath because apparently u act like you developed a game before ill take a update from the devs in 2014 when the game is close to release.

Gazondaily3823d ago

Enemy

You need to be quiet about this pre baked lighting nonsense. I've seen you slither into countless Forza articles and regurgitate the same old tired nonsense over and over again.

@nuke

FPS isnt such a big issue when the game looks as good as it does. The delay may have been to polish the visuals and sort out the gameplay. The early build I played looked mediocre at best. What I'm seeing now looks like it's footage for a completely different game.

FANTA11803823d ago

lmao ... sad is making a game 1080p while sacrificing frame rate ... upscaling it and keeping it 60fps is a more noticable thing.

and to you guys making fun of forza , lmao sad attempt my friends , forza has been handing gran turismo its ass for a while now.

Enemy3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

^ What kind of simulation ignores the fact that there's a such thing as night in the world? I almost feel bad for you Forza kids. Turn 10 doesn't even have the tech to create night races because they've gotten so used to placing fake and bake daytime lighting.

And Septic, for having as many bubbles as you have, couldn't possibly be more misinformed. I've seen you try to call me out before and it's failed. Go ahead and confirm Forza's dynamic lighting and fully rendered in 3D tracks. All you'll find is static.

What Turn 10 are willing to sacrifice for 60fps is truly pathetic. But of course, reading the comments here from woodwork Xbox maggots, they really have convinced the flock that more shine = better graphics. The biggest critics are always the most empty-headed, hence the absolutely uneducated responses.

By the time Turn 10 figures out how to properly model their games, they'll be in last place. So much for realism.

badkolo3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

stop with the bake dlighting lie, its bene proven by the devs its not prebaked, get a life enemy, seriously

xHeavYx3823d ago

@badkolo
You forgot to add the link to support your claim

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VonBraunschweigg3823d ago

Imo one of the most important differences between Driveclub an Forza is the handling: pretty much all our PS3 wheels are supported by Driveclub while Forza doesn't support any of the Xbox 360 wheels, not even the official Forza wheel from Fanatec that lauched early last year.

Wheel, pedals, few buttons, stick perhaps. Should be compatible. Forcing fans to buy new wheels and not offering a good affordable wheel like the Logitech GT wheel, imo even fans should not support that kind of BS. You're not playing, you're getting played.

T23823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@nuke Why do u care ?,.... nukeitall is the most trusted source for trolling ps4 on n4g.... He is Not getting a ps4 anyway therefore your posts are useless

FITgamer3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@FANTA1180

"...forza has been handing gran turismo its ass for a while now." You do realize that every GT game as sold 2x and even 3x more copies than Forza 3, which has the highest sales in the franchise. This gen will be no different.

G20WLY3823d ago

^Badkolo, there's nothing "dlighting" about baked lighting... ;P

Outside_ofthe_Box3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

***"Good?

Why is this game still 30fps?"***

L-O-L! ! !

Why do you care? What happened to, resolution and frame rates don't matter? What happened to, it's all about the experience? What happened to, if resolution and frame rates mattered we should be gaming on PC?

This is pretty hilarious stuff.

Knushwood Butt3823d ago

@ arexw

lol at the haters that are now trying to claim that Forza is a sim!!

Go away and enjoy your lens flare.

nukeitall3823d ago

@outside:

Racing games is best *experienced* at 60fps unless it is an arcade racer.

If you wanted top of the line graphics PC is it.

ShwankyShpanky3823d ago

Isn't DC considered more of an "arcade racer" than sim?

Outside_ofthe_Box3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

***"Racing games is best *experienced* at 60fps unless it is an arcade racer.

If you wanted top of the line graphics PC is it."***

L-O-L again!

I don't see your point. Every single game is best experienced at a higher resolution and frame rate.

DriveClub looks great the way it does now even at 30fps. If DriveClub were to release today at the stage it's currently in I know damn well that if my experience with the game ended up being bad it wouldn't be because of the game's visuals that's for sure.

All that should matter now is how the game plays according to your previous notions about frame rates and resolutions not being important (which I actually agree with).

By the way, isn't DriveClub an arcade racer anyway? If it is considered one, it would make your comments even more hilarious.

Irishguy953822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

Sorry Enemy, that's the stupidest comment i've seen in a while 'bragging rights'. This is about Drive club. Who gives a **** what they look like? They simple fact is Driveclub will just not play as good as Forza. They are sacrificing that potential for graphics.

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Enemy3823d ago

No way a game this detailed will run at 60fps. They'd have to sacrifice a lot of what they've already done. They've literally modeled every single thing you see on the screen, everything with a real shadow cast and dynamic light.

XboxFun3823d ago

With all the power the PS4 has this shouldn't be a problem to up the framerate for a game like this.

The PS4 is a super computer remember? I am sure the devs working on Driveclub will fix that problem.

No need to make excuses as to why it's only in 30fps now, I'm sure in a week we'll get another article saying they upped the framerate.

lifeisgamesok3823d ago

Forza has better lighting and reflections dude. The cars also look better

Ravenor3823d ago

Haven't you heard? The next gen hardware is magical and we'll see leaps in visual fidelity akin to what we saw with the PS3 AND an increase in framerates and resolution.

mhunterjr3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

It's just a strange design choice. A racing game is about precision control and response. Handcrafted backdrops and dynamic weather are nice, but should only be achieved after maxing out performance.

The typical racing fan would choose 60fps over 30fps any day of the week.

Personally, I'd rather play at a lower resolution than a lower framerate... Gameplay first.

AngelicIceDiamond3823d ago

@Enemy I don't think you know how games work. You know devs have explained why they do certain things to gamers and anyone who's curious.

I'm no where near a dev wiz but I know for a fact that 1080p and 60 frames sometimes won't be achieved in first gen games.

It amazes me how some games are already hitting 60FPS this early.

You need to get your head on straight and start being realistic about everything around you. And have at least a clue about how games work.

imt5583823d ago

They have about 3 months left until launch. I'm pretty sure that they will achieve 60 fps.

T23823d ago

@lifeisgames - wow how desperate are you when you try desperately to compare a free game to your beloved forza ... If u were smart you would just get both esp since driveclub is free .... Smh...

memots3823d ago

Like Vulcanprject up there said,

"Project Gotham series is the best more arcade style racer with real supercars I have played on the current generation, even now PGR3 and 4 are just brilliant games. They look fantastic, they handle superb, the game is immense fun online and off. "

The game was amazing and fast and guess what people?? It was 30fps and was fun. This bs of a game needs to be 60fps or it's bad as got to stop its utter nonsense.

TENTONGUN3822d ago

gawd. people acually think the first racing genre games on the next gen will be the last ones ever made or something. the be all end all right? the next gen has brought out the absolute worst in this website. we all need to get together and punch it out. i was a loyal xbox gamer turned ps4 day 1 paid for preorder. who gives a fuck.............anyone want to bitch about it?

mcstorm3822d ago

This really should not be an issue for a game like driver club. It is in the same game type as Forza Horizon and for me this game looked amazing and was one of the best arcade racers with real cars of last gen.

But what I do find funny is the way people act on here. When the Ryse developers said it was not 60fps at 1080 the sony fan boys were all over it like a shot saying the power of the one is nothing compared to the PS4 and now this has come out they are saying its not an issue for this game.

At the end of the day if the game is fun to play and make looks amazing when playing it then what is the issue. This gen is starting to make me wonder if there are any gamers left out there and its just full of people who want to say that what they own is better than anyone else's and its really is turning into a sad place to come on here.

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-Foxtrot3823d ago

So hopefully by the time we get closer to it's release we'll see it running at 60fps/1080p

MadLad3823d ago

That's literally doubling the performance before launch though.
That's highly doubtful, considering they've really put in the effort just to achieve full HD at a playable FPS.
Time will tell though.

tetsuhana3823d ago

It's not "doubling the performance" unless the very best they ca do right now is stable 30fps. If they chose to have a variable frame rate it would probably fluctuate between 30 and 60, but I'm sure they want to try to lock it in at 60.

They also said "At this stage" the game is running at 1080p@30fps, implying that the frame rate isn't final. Not sure why everyone is acting like this is an announcement of the final fps.

uncharted563823d ago

They did say that they were aiming for 60 fps and would hit it sometimes but were not quite there. This game got delayed to not only make it 60fps but apparently things like dynamic weather were missing that they wanted to add in. Personally I am glad its delayed because now they can get the game looking and playing better.

Lboogieskells3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

I really want 60fps, but they seem to be using alot of PR speak regarding the current specs at 1080p 30 frames. Seems like they're trying to make it sound more appealing each time.

They seem to be adding a ton of visual features and I don't see how that could help the frame rate issues.

DeadlyFire3822d ago

Each new visual addition takes framerate down a little sure, but then some engine optimization comes along and boasts the whole thing forward. Shouldn't be to hard for them to move the game up to 60 fps.

Lboogieskells3822d ago

@DeadlyFire

I sure do hope so.... Anyways even if its just 30fps at launch. I think the game looks awesome at it's current framerate.

Mister_G3823d ago

I'd prefer it locked at 30fps if they can't get a stable 60fps.

If they lock it down to 30fps they should be able to include even more detail (they'll have spare time in each frame).

ginsunuva3823d ago

If we had a geforce g-sync tech for our tv's and consoles, we could change the refresh rate to match the output, and the framerate could thus be whatever it wants.

So instead of devs trying to either get 30 or 60, they could have it vary in between and the monitor will be fine.

MidnytRain3823d ago

I think of all genre's, it's important for a racer to have a steady frame rate. Even a moment's drop and screw you over big time.

MASTER_RAIDEN3823d ago

Im so confused. why would anyone think watch dog's delay had anything to do with drive club?

Godmars2903823d ago

Why are they only showing less than 10 seconds of gameplay?

mushroomwig3823d ago

They're teasing people, they're going to release a full race soon though.

nades_all_night3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

According to Twitter and Facebook (official pages) It will be sometime next week.

https://www.facebook.com/dr...
https://twitter.com/drivecl...

ginsunuva3823d ago

The game had vine-like uploads I think.
They're trying to be like social networks.

strickers3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

They are using PS4 Share to show them. Lower res and small to keep file sixes down.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv7295d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut8595d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio95d ago (Edited 95d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack95d ago (Edited 95d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander197295d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff218394d ago (Edited 94d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim95d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno94d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff218394d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger95d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai95d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC94d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear21776d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.