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Analyst: Xbox One will outsell PlayStation 4 at launch

"While many forecasts still give an edge to Sony/PS4 in North America sales, we continue to expect similar or even slightly higher sales of Xbox One by the end of the launch window," Sebastian told investors.

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Mystogan3831d ago

I'm an Xbox Fan and even i have to Lol at this. But next year will be a different story though..

theBAWSE3831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

hmm

ps4 has more pre-orders

ps4 is launching in more than double the countries of xbone

is this so called 'analyst' on MICROSOFTS payroll? you have to wonder

@mystogan.. I'm with @mushroomwig,whats happening next year? or was that another waste of a bubble

Ricegum3831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

Didn't you hear, Kinect Sports Rivals is out next year.

xHeavYx3831d ago

This guy will be teaching the class "How to make stupid predictions 101" soon

HammadTheBeast3831d ago

The rest of the first party PS4 exclusives are announced, and analysts wisen up.

Mystogan3831d ago

Titanfall will happen. Halo Will Happen. Quantum Break Will happen. nuff said..

Pogmathoin3831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

He must be on MS books.... Anyone whos says something fanboys disagree with must be...
Love the trolls calling out trolls.... All saintly and innocent.... Me included....

gaffyh3831d ago

It says he's going by eBay listings wtf, is that serious? It's not a big leap to get to his theory based on previous history of the 360, but eBay listings?!

Sitdown3831d ago

theBAWSE
It does not matter how many countries you launch in, but how many consoles you have available to purchase... All reports have been that Sony is pushing out more units, so by default they should sale more...... They can't even keep up with demand.

NewAgeisHere3831d ago

Next year MS will be giving away free Xbones with every Windows cause they won't sell well...xD.

GTgamer3831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

@Mystogan
"Titanfall will happen. Halo Will Happen. Quantum Break Will
happen. nuff said.."
It
Halo is gonna do as good as it always does to tbh you wont see a difference halo fans are gonna buy halo plain and simple some new adopters sure but that's it.
Quantum Break from the people who brought us alan wake good game but was nothing spectacular so i wouldnt hail it just yet maybe when you see 5 minutes of gameplay.
Titanfall that might be your only argument here tbh unless it turns out to be bad only online games tend to have a ruff start remember simcity.

Now my question is whats happening next year again?:/

Jaqen_Hghar3831d ago

uh oh. A user hasn't SEEN Titanfall!

brometheos3831d ago

Next year is big! Infamous, The Order, Driveclub, possibly some unannounced games. Idk what's happening for the xbox aside from Titanfall though.

P0werVR3830d ago

Title a bit misleading. Analyst ment the by the end of the "launch window". Which makes sense when you consider Titanfall.

pyramidshead3830d ago

@hammad nailing it

OT: I'd be surprised if it did and props to MS if it does.

NukaCola3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

This is inaccurate as all hell. Even if the Xbone sells out, PS4 is launching in 2.5 times more countries with more than double preorders in every location to include normally Xbox dominated US and UK. Not saying Xbox One won't do well, but by common logic shows Sony has placed the PS4 in a very huge advantage point. On top of that the more expensive PS3 caught up and out sold the 360 by almost 2 million more units after the 360's major head start. With the early release in the US, higher specs, and more affordable price, I see only huge success coming with PS4 next month.

QuickdrawMcgraw3830d ago

What's the length of a launch window?

UltimateMaster3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

It's official, I'm never depending on any analyst to try to predict the future.
They clearly suck at it.
http://www.destructoid.com/...

assdan3830d ago

I'm pretty sure the PS4 is doing better everywhere this analyst isn't very good.

DOMination-3830d ago

Sony might be shipping to more countries but it doesn't really count when its one whole console to Brazil and a whopping three to the UAE or wherever it was. In fact that is more pathetic spin than anything MS have ever done.

Army_of_Darkness3830d ago

I think that miley syrus breaking ball video fucxked him up.. . Like, who saw that coming? !

andrewsqual3830d ago

PS3 total global sales will leave 360 sales in the dirt even more, same for PS4 too for the rest of the consoles' lives.

Seriously though if anybody has any reasons as to why Xbone could ever catch up to sales on PS4 when the last console had a year headstart and was just a tad more popular than the Xbone you might say (lol), then please, tell us why.

Narutone663830d ago

Must be the successor of Pachter, always predicting the opposite.

indysurfn3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

He based it on Ebay price difference. Lets test his logic with a actual example of this.
Lets look at the PS3/xbox360 launch and the ebay prices then.

When PS3 launched it was actually selling for $2,000 on ebay. What happened 6 weeks later there where plenty of stock setting on shelves, and xbox360 lead just like the prelaunch numbers told us it would.

Same will happen this time to except prelaunch numbers tell us it will be Sony's machine not just leading, but dominating.

Sarick3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

Maybe this.

http://www.infowars.com/cha...

Restrict or heavily tax the money to Japan, China and other international nations but allow domestic transactions to have different rules/limits. I added the link for reference. I'm really not sure but I know a lot of transactions will be limited in a few months. From my understanding this shouldn't affect big companies but there isn't enough to go on.

Also that big debt ceiling in USA comes up again early next year. What if these guys took it to the next level and actually defaulted. In any case a potential US dollar crash wouldn't be good for the gamers or console sales.

http://www.nerc.com/pa/CI/C...

I'm also skeptical that GridEx II(just before PS4 launch) won't have unforeseen issues in it's simulated mass power outage of Mexico, Canada and USA.

A lot is riding on 13-17 of November 2013. Much more is going on then the launch of PS4. In all seriousness it's been hard to discuss gaming in general.

Anyway, I'm just throwing out possible issues that could happen in USA. These could seriously effect 2014 console sales etc. Lets try and look at the bigger picture of what's going on in the world. It's simply not all cookies and cream.

Send me a Private PM instead of a comment reply please I don't want this to go off topic any more my discussing these issues directly.

SilentNegotiator3830d ago

"Quantum Break Will happen"

It's so cute when fanboys pretend to know anything about Quantum Break or Order 1886 or some other game with no gameplay previews or predecessor.

mikeslemonade3830d ago

Prediction:

3.7 million PS3s sold by the end of the year
2.4 million X1s sold by the end of the year

warczar3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

@silentnegotiator

For your information Gameinformer just did a 12 page article on "the Order" so there is plenty of info out there on that. It's so cute when the users of the word "fanboy" act like they know anything at all.

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vishmarx3831d ago

poor disguise troll.
it most likely will outsell ps4 at launch simply because its got more games.come feb-march and it will never catch up to the ps4 in its lifetime

Triella3831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

No it's just a question of logic : Xbox One will outsell PS4 at launch but only because the latter comes first in the US and later in Europe while Xbox One as only one launch date inbetween. But by PS4 european launch everything will get back to normal.

And I can easily predict that by December 31st Sony will have sold more than double what MS will = 3 million vs 1.3~1.4 million.

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MarkusMcNugen3830d ago

@bigc072004
Yeah, fanboys get out of control but you are just as much of the problem as the xbox fanboys. You just equated an Xbox One to a $500 VCR which is just stupid, and then claim the PS4 will have a better online experience which is subjective at best. Not to mention you insinuate that Xbox One doesn't have any launch exclusives.

To sum up, its people like you who are the problem.

Blaze9293831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

i dont get why a bunch of n4g gamers and nobodies think they know better than someone who's job it is to know this and get paid for it? Apparently from Microsoft's payroll too (lol)

I mean, maybe he's right juuuuust maybe? I wouldn't know, not my job. But you all seem so sure LOL. please, go.

theBAWSE3831d ago

Yeh because his paid he must know what his talking about considering his analysis comes predominantly from.... EBay!!!!

but why would I expect any different from you calling people nobodies... throwing stones from his mother's glass basement..

Death3831d ago

The author was using ebay markup as a way to guage demand. The Xbox One is getting 60% markup to PS4's 50%. Taking a quick look at ebay it looks like both see an average of $250 mark up in buy it nows. This is actually the opposite of what the author found. The fluctuation in PS4 prices is much greater with some asking much higher prices than I seen for Xbox One.

In short from what I can see and what the author seen it is pretty clear using ebay as a way to guage demand is stupid at best. Either he shouldn't be paid for that analysis or I should. I'm leaning towards neither of us should be paid for looking on ebay. Props to him for getting a check and me being stuck living in my moms glass basement. Thank god she took my bucket of rocks I found on the beach away.

kneon3830d ago

And why do you think this analyst knows better than all the other analysts that see the market going the other way?

AceBlazer133830d ago

Economics is usually common sense that's why most of us can call bs on this claim. and do you think that the people on this site are jobless ? wouldn't be surprised if some n4gers are analysts themselves

Bigpappy3830d ago

N4G fanboys will jump to point out that PS4 is selling in more countries, when the guy is actually and obviously only predicting North America. I agree with him by the way, not necessarily for day one, but by year end. The holiday season will be huge for M$ if they can match demand. Casuals will be the huge difference makers, and will go heavily for Xbox features.

Destrania3830d ago

And I don't get how someone can be such an idiot, but yet here we are.

Gamingcapacity3830d ago

Casuals will jump on the consoles with the lowest price. The only thing that will sway the mass casual audience is the huge advertising campaigne that MS will most likely have (bigger than Sony for sure)

This could even itself out with similar sales on both platforms in NA. Rest of the world will be Sony.

Hicken3830d ago

There are millions of people who have jobs and are inept at them. This guy is one of them. And there are millions of "nobodies" around the world that can do his job better. I imagine quite a few of them are on N4G.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3830d ago

Lol blaze just lol i will leave it at that fml.

mistertwoturbo3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

Anybody with any tiny itty bitty miniscule bit of knowledge on the games industry knows that based on the entire year since the PS4 has been announced combined with the constant barrage of negative news and image of the Xbone one ANNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDD the $100 cheaper price point on the PS4, pre-order numbers from all the retailers, praise from both developers and consumers on the PS4 hardware, ALLLLLLLLL points to the PS4 outselling the Xbone...

You'd be the absolute most ignorant analyst in the entire world to think otherwise.

rainslacker3830d ago

Thing is for every analyst that gets paid to do this sort of thing, you can find another analyst who gets paid to do this sort of thing and they will say the complete opposite.

They may be right, they may be wrong. Does it really matter?

badz1493830d ago

@Blaze929

that's just dumb. two words, Michael...Pachter...

and if he's anything to go by, nah...you should know the rest!

and this is based on eBay?? WTF HOLY FAIL BBQ!

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RAGE913831d ago

Thats the thing. Once its sold in the 13 regions it has right now, and is released in all other regions it equals more sales

ovnipc3831d ago

I agree. Im getting the x1 at lunch but stil ps4 wilk sell more. When ps4 get more exclusives then i jump in to ps4. This guy its wrong ps4 will sell 2:1.

Kurt Russell3830d ago

I'm getting a tuna sandwich at lunch.

hello123831d ago

I ordered my X Box 1 day one edition at gamestop September 3th. But anyways i was on the gamestop page the other day for XB1.

And gamestop had a notice up in blue writing. Preorders after 5th of September is not guaranteed at launch after this date!

This either means there sold out two months before November or there is not enough XB1'S out there for everyone on launch date.

I think the PS4 will sell lot more consoles at launch, mind you, but Microsooft is not struggling to sell their console.

clewis943831d ago

@Mystogan You forget PS4 has Infamous, DriveClub, The Order 1866 plus maybe Naughty Dogs new game at the end of the year.

Real_gamer3830d ago

Drive club u mean ridge racer ? Infamous sucks like rest of it they used to make it's not all about graphics it's about gameplay and story too the order 1866 bloody hell there is too many horror games coming out so who cares about it evil within will be better than the order and next time make sure Sony dev not gonna try steal gears of war gameplay for the order lol

warczar3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

can someone help me decipher what the real gamer is trying to say here? ^^

Magicite3831d ago

PS4 is launching before X1, so how can it be outsold?

T-Dawg63830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

It's releasing 7 days before the Xbox One... It won't make much of a difference

pompombrum3831d ago

Both consoles will probably sell out before Christmas. At that point, you can't really boast about who is out selling who. A fairer idea would be come E3 next year when both consoles should be on the shelves, then you can judge who is outselling who.

HugoDrax3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

"A fairer idea would be come E3 next year when both consoles should be on the shelves"

Not with TitanFall & InFamous on shelves...

-Infamous = FEB 2014?
-TitanFall = MARCH 11, 2014 (This is a console seller, regardless if it's on X360 & PC)

E3 2014 = JUNE 10-12,2014

irepbtown3830d ago

Your first sentence makes no sense.

Example: If I have 10 doughnuts and sell them all, you have 5 doughnuts and sell them all, who will have the bragging rights?

I reckon they'll both sell out before Christmas, however based on pre-order, PS4 will have sold more (assuming it continues to outsell the competition).

hellzsupernova3830d ago

I can see the xbone outselling the playstation at launch I really can thanks to Microsoft ability to spend billions on advertising where Sony can't
Plus America is still xbox territory.

irepbtown3830d ago

I may be wrong, but isn't PS4 ahead on pre-orders even in America?

solar3830d ago

HOW DARE SOMEONE THINK THIS?!

Anzil3830d ago

Ya when sony releases uncharted 4 and all the other games they got comin!

avengers19783830d ago

The guy specifically says in North America, not actually saying he's right, but there is a pretty good chance of that happening. I'm from ohio and there are lots of Xbox fans around here.

iiwii3830d ago

Not everybody in America rides Microsoft. I have 12 local gaming friends who all are on PS3 and will be moving to PS4 this gen.

Agent13830d ago

We can all predict and speculate, but the truth comes out once the consoles release next month. Only then shall the actual facts stare us at he face.

MRMagoo1233830d ago

Thats right guys you heard it here on N4G, even tho the ps4 is selling in double the countries with probably double the allotted consoles, the xbone will somehow sell more, just ignore the polls from every single web site that has ever done one and how there is over 2 times the amount of ppl getting a ps4, the xbone will sell more.

This ANALyst needs a new job i think, and i thought patcher was bad lol.

Logic seems to fail this man pretty badly.

TBONEJF3830d ago (Edited 3830d ago )

Those analyst are a bunch of dumb a$$e$ if you ask me

Eddie201013830d ago

That is the stupidest article I have read all year.

Thee reason for higher sales is because the Xbox One people are greedier. How does that even make any sence. LOL, LOL, LOL.

AndrewLB3830d ago

I have far more confidence in this research firm than a bunch of fanboys considering Baird is HIGHLY respected in the business world, is ranked 14th on the Fortune 100, beating out Microsoft by 16 spots.

One typically doesn't become such a well respected firm by making unsubstantiated claims.

http://www.rwbaird.com/abou...

I can't find any connection between Baird and M$. In fact, they tend to be at odds, with Baird siding with google during some recent conflicts.

showtimefolks3830d ago

yeh who are these morons again? are these like patcher who predicted that GTA3 would sell 300K lol

not only will ps4 outsell xbox one at launch but it will do so through the gen, sony are delaying launch in japan in hopes of giving more consoles to USA market and when it does launch in Japan, it will sell really well

if $599 price point
hard to develop for
beginning of PSN which wasn't great
not many games for first few years

if all these things couldn't stop ps3 from outselling xbox360 than what makes anyone think that now MS can beat sony when they are launching at the same time

wishful thinking MS

MynextGen3830d ago

Yes I think XboxOne will outsell Ps4 guaranteed

Gamer19823830d ago

Its possible and only because there could possibly be more xboxes in America this holiday. There is a reason MS held back to certain countries. There won't be any in stores available as those who cannot get PS4s this holiday will probably end up forking out for an xbox instead. Of course If both Sony and MS release the same amount of consoles MS ain't got a prayer.

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iamnsuperman3831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

"The conjecture is backed up by data from eBay listings, which shows Xbox One mark-ups 60 percent north of the console's $500 price tag whilst those of PS4 are just a tick lower at roughly 50 percent more than its respective $400 asking price"

I do not understand this reasoning.

OT: I don't think it will just purely based on the price.

MasterCornholio3831d ago

WTF

Is my reaction.

O.O

Nexus 7 2013

RandomDude6553831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

Supply has an adverse reaction on price. It's not demand, as PS4 is polling higher in all regions. AKA low supply means higher price. If the xbox one is in lower supply, how would it sell more than ps4? Analyst is stupid.

BOOM headshot

dumahim3831d ago

To me it sounds like he isn't factoring in supply and demand. I haven't looked, but he would have to take into consideration how many consoles are available. PS4 seems to have went into production weeks ahead of Xbox One. If there are less Xbox Ones to be had, it's no wonder the price could be higher.

I don't see how anyone can look at game pre-order numbers and figure Xbox would match or exceed PS4 sales. Xbox has arguably the better launch line-up, but PS4 still has more game pre-sales.

Angels37853831d ago (Edited 3831d ago )

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD

Ebay listings...as its basis xDDDD what an unprofessional analyst....not even preorder numbers? This is an analyst 100% ignorant to the industry.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow112h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos9h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos7h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje7h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon8h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum10h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola5h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum5h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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SimpleDad7h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola5h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos5h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai6h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK6h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh6h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville2h ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.