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My worries with next-gen games running at 30 fps

Now, a game running at 30fps isn't a bad thing. In fact, a lot of people out there don't even know the difference between 30 and 60fps. But for those of you who can tell the difference and have seen 60fps, there's a huge difference. Although it depends on the game, a higher frame rate can give the game a smoother look and feel, and may even allow you to play the game better.

I love 60fps and hope to see all if not most next-gen games go up to that frame rate. But games that are staying at 30 make me worry. The reasoning isn't because I'm worried gameplay will be sluggish or slow, but because of the console recording capabilities. I've been recording games for about two years now and have experience with this kind of thing. A game that has the ability to run at 30 fps vs 60 makes a huge difference in the video quality, which is pretty important for not only the person streaming to their channel, but also to the developers and possibly even Sony or Microsoft. If a game's fps is all over the place, it's going to look obvious and all of those mentioned above may be criticized for it.

Continuing on, a game running at 60fps has the leg room to drop a few frames here and there and the player or viewer will hardly notice. But if a game running at 30fps has a frame drop, the player and viewer will most certainly notice. The reasoning is because at 30 fps, our eyes can just barely see the changes in the frames while objects on screen move and adjust. At 60, the movements and animation frames blend together and our eyes can't make out the changes so the game appears to run much smoother.

If the developers are still able to lock the frame rate at 30fps then it shouldn't be a problem. But, if you've played Dark Souls on a console, there are areas where the frame rate drops down to 15-20fps and it makes the game just horrible to play.

With the waters being pushed aside for the flood of indie developers to run through, I'm sure we'll see our fare share of unoptimized games. I fear that players are going to notice frame drops much easier and decide to set those games aside and play something that does feel good to play. But lets hope for the most part, games are able to run at 60fps as long as it doesn't hinder gameplay.

My point of all this is simply that I hope in the future, we see games run at the highest frame rate the games can run at to build more emersion. And with that comes the hope that Sony and Microsoft's streaming abilities aren't a hinderance to the players streaming or the viewer of that video in terms of video quality and smoothness of the fps.

Bonus: Here is a link to a site that allows you to actually see the difference between 15,30, and 60fps.
http://boallen.com/fps-comp...

SilentNegotiator3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

Most developers are going to go after the best graphics in terms of screenshots, coupled with ~30fps. I don't expect any real deviation from that this gen.

That's fine by me if the 30fps is constant.

Stick893829d ago

While I agree that 60 FPS is amazing and I want as many of the next gen games to run their games at that rate. I find 30 FPS to also be very playable.

I had this discussion with a friend of mine and I basically boiled it down to anything under 24 is unplayable, 30 is normal and playable, and 60+ is basically perfect.

The main problem is that in order to reach 60 FPS you usually have to take a huge hit to the visuals. If the visuals are cut back so much that they look like current gen games, the consoles won't sell very well to the general public. You and I might see the difference in frame rates and think it's totally worth it. But to the average consumer I'm willing to bet they'd think the games look the same because of the visual assets and wonder why they need to buy a whole new console.

metalgod883829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

I find that 30fps is definitely playable. I mean almost all of the last gen console games were run at 30fps and hey, it worked. 60fps just feels like, I don't know, a premium service for pc gamers.

Now that these new consoles are going to have a huge increase in ram and new awesome GPU's, I'd like to think that the developers can pull off awesome graphics with a better frame rate. If not now, hopefully we'll see that down the line once the game developers unleash the consoles full potential.

If not, oh well, but hopefully with all the ram these consoles are going to have, frame drops won't be as much of an issue. But we shall see.

Pillsbury13829d ago

Killzone will look amazing, 1080p and 60fps.

memots3829d ago

if its mattered this much then people would be crying about every frcking game out there. Almost all games are 30fps, People needs to stop complaining about this like its some kind of disease. Seriously was the Last of us Demon soul ect..... bad because it was 30frame per second???

metalgod883829d ago

I'm not saying 30fps is bad by any means. It's a playable frame rate, but until you've seen a game played at 60fps, you don't know what you're missing.

Here's an example: Left side is 60fps and right is 30fps. http://i.minus.com/iKuvI6ja...

Also, the necessity of a higher fps really depends on the game. I'd say 3rd and 1st person games could benefit from 60 fps, while point and click adventure games aren't reliant on a high fps.

memots3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

i play on PC, I have Sli setup , I run everything at Ultra all the time. Like everyone else i like it when i run a Benchmark that tells me the Average is for example 73fps.

Will it lessen my enjoyment of the game it if ran at 30 , 37 , 45 fps ? NO

It does not make a game. The only time FPS matters is when you get stuttering or dip under 30fps, On console you rarely ever get stutter since pretty much every game lock it at 30fps and that is just fine.

I_am_Batman3829d ago

What I still don't understand is why it's gotta be either 30 or 60fps. Why not aim for let's say 45 or 50fps. The only possible reason I see is the refresh-rate of old TVs. But nowadays most people have at least 200Hz TVs so that shouldn't be an issue anymore.

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VersusDMC6h ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC5h ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Friendlygamer6h ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey6025h ago(Edited 5h ago)

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya3h ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde3h ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

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