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Red Line of Death Rumor False: Sony Responds

Shuhei Yoshida has responded to the rumor about the PS4 Red Line of Death Rumor. Apparently the report is false.

GarrusVakarian3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

I guessed as much. The authors name was Homer J Simpson, if anyone actually believed this rumour then shame on you, lol.

Expect many attempts at shooting down the PS4's reputation, and expect many failures like this one.

Ezz20133843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

*The authors name was Homer J Simpson*

i'm gonna tell Marge simpson about Homer
he should have stayed in Moe's bar

AlexanderNevermind3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

As has been stated before it is good that the system now warns of possible overheating issues rather than waiting for the console to brick (i.e. xbox360). I've read that the X1 does the same. Good job by both if true on MS' front

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nix3843d ago

... aaaaaaaaaand it's gone!

abzdine3843d ago

they call it red light of death and right after they say that the console resumed working after it cooled down.
glad yoshida denied this BS, one more proof that the media nowadays is corrupted to the bone.

xHeavYx3843d ago

That rumor was started by Mr X(box)

GiggMan3843d ago

Sony did a good job deading this whole situation before it really got started.

BISHOP-BRASIL3843d ago

It's kind of a shame (although understandable) the red light has to be the warning sign instead of the normal operation color, I really like it, would perfectly match red Dual Shock 4... Not that blue looks bad anyway, I just think red fitted it nicely.

ShinMaster3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

I didn't know such a rumor even existed until now, lol

P.S. wow those Xbox fanboys on that twitter tread are ridiculous.

Sono4213843d ago

This is seriously getting pathetic.. some people out there REALLY want there to be bad news about Sony and their PS4. Every single one of these negative Sony/PS4 articles turns out to be fake/misinformed.

I think Xbox One fans have finally hit their breaking point, all the negative news about the Xbox One pushed them over the edge so they're now creating fake negative news about the PS4.. what a shame.. you guys it would be easier just to switch consoles and also save yourself $100 bucks while doing it ;)

I can tell you it's a heck of alot easier to switch then to try to make the PS4 look bad.. and it's way way way easier then trying to make the Xbox One look good ;)

DestinyHeroDoomlord3843d ago

Doesn't Homer own shares in moe's bar?

iiwii3843d ago

haha. I was going to say he called this prank in from Moe's

SmokingMonkey3842d ago

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Xb360 The Red Ring of Death

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strifeblade3842d ago

obviously its false, what do you expect them to say, just like when rrod was false and look how that turned out

SilentNegotiator3842d ago

As all of these fake error signs are created by fanboys, let's remember that these consoles WILL have real ones. It doesn't mean that they necessarily have major problems. It's not a weakness to have something to signify a dead system, unless you live in a universe where there are ANY electronics with 0% failure rates.

sobekflakmonkey3839d ago (Edited 3839d ago )

Just in case nobody else brought this up.

There is a photo of a PS4 with a red light lit up, but uhhh....did you ever think your PS3 was broken when you turned it off...? I didn't...if you don't get what I'm saying, I'll explain, when you turn on your PS3 there are two lights, blue and green, when you shut it off, a red light comes on and the blue and green lights go off, the red light indicating that there is power going to your PS3 but it is turned off, that PS4 was probably off or on the "Stand-by" mode they were talking about at the reveal...for xbox gamer's, red lights mean the death of a console, being that they dealt with the "RROD" (Red Ring of Death) for 3-4 years...

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allformats3843d ago

Of course it's false. This is mainly a warning to keep the console from dying when there's extreme heat.

In fact, all machines do this.

thrust3843d ago

Of course sony says it false you mean.

GarrusVakarian3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@thrust

Well, if it's not true then of course Sony are going to say so. Your profile motto is extremely ironic too.

Below.... "Why is it? I do not get upset, I just upset people ;)"

So basically you are saying you intentionally troll people?

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Kayant3843d ago

@thrust

But he's right though XB1 & PS4 are going to be doing the same thing.

And the fact the system started working in 2 seconds after it was removed from a "none" ventilated case obviously means it's untrue.

meatysausage3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@Thrust
deny it because its not what the original articles headline made it out to be.

If you were put in a small plastic box, im sure you would sweat

Thehyph3843d ago

I like how in that article it was claimed as a red line of death, and then the console was restarted and it was fixed within seconds.

How could it be a red line of death if it was immediately fixed.

Some people went berzerk without applying some basic logic.

Eonjay3843d ago

@thurst

Yes because Homer J. Simpson is the most reliable source...

black0o3843d ago

@thust did the console died? yes or no

nukeitall3843d ago

Home J Simpson is as reliable as any other anonymous or hiding behind a internet nickname source that gets touted around here.

I think a more detailed answer would have been appreciated Mr Yoshida.

M-M3843d ago

@thrust

0/10 for trolling, same for you @nukeitall.

pkb793843d ago

@stevehyphen the ps4 is the messiah of gaming consoles. It dies and comes back to life.

scott1823842d ago

The console didn't die!!! What part of that do people not understand. It wasn't ventilated, it immediately turned back on. Nobody needs to respond to anything, the console didn't die.

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Eonjay3843d ago

You can't take everything you read online to be 100% accurate. And seeing as the console never actually died...

titletownrelo3843d ago

I litterally JUST finished reading and commenting on the article, clicked the "ALL" tab, and its already denied. HAHA

BallsEye3843d ago

DAMAGE CONTROLL! That kind of comments we would see if it would be about MS. Lol n4g is a blast to read sometimes.

Wh15ky3843d ago

Poor little MS!

Or, just paranoid?

Refer to Thrusts comments above and lifeisgamesok below.

kenshiro1003842d ago

...Are you serious? -_-

No, just no.

pyramidshead3843d ago

I thought it was just a red line of warning, i.e. not death, but just telling you shits getting toasty in the console like any warning signal on any tech. RRoD on the other hand, like YLOD, was a sign that your console has officially corsped.

KwietStorm_BLM3843d ago

Lmao shits getting toasty. I don't know why I found that so funny.

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johndoe112113843d ago

I don't think sony should even have wasted their time responding to this cause even if it was true it is perfectly understandable given the situation.

WarThunder3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Yea i agree. The rumor was just removed.

torchic3843d ago

we, on gaming forums are an educated bunch concerning such matters.

unfortunately the same cannot be said for the majority of people who will buy the PS4 and so it was important to shoot the rumour down.

mii-gamer3843d ago

it was Bart Simpson - i tellz yah

Funantic13843d ago

But we all saw actual pictures of a PS4 with the red line of death....smh....denial. Yoshida telling you what you wanna hear again. Like he was gonna say it was true a month before the PS4 comes out. I don't believe him at all. For one he didn't have any explanations. He didn't even deny the pictures. Plus there are reports that more PS4s have done this. Also that clear case that the PS4 is dying in, well when you go into stores, that's what you see most consoles in. They never had any problems before. Those display cases are plenty big and ventilated. You can see big holes to the bottom of them where the cords hang out. If the PS4 can't withstand those minor conditions how can it handle extreme conditions for years to come. The PS4 is said to have small cheaper fans in a too small of a case. You can expect that red line of death to stay on or a lot of malfunctions due to overheating. You know what happens when the doctor sees a red line.

Eonjay3843d ago

You are trying too hard. I know you want it to be true and no one can make you face reality. There are zero (0) other reports of this happening. I know in you mind you believe this is happening... but its not. Yes a man in Spain named Homer Simpson says otherwise...but stop freaking out.

black0o3843d ago

CAN'T U READ .. the f#$% console didn't died i started working like a mint after it cooled down

ohh .. i see u r a member of the xbone FAN club
so what ever helps u get throw the night

JuniorCE3843d ago

Do you believe in Santa too? You can easily do that with Photoshop...

KwietStorm_BLM3843d ago

You WANT it to be true. Just say it. You're so adamant. The consoles in the cases in stores never burned out haha man C'mon.

pyramidshead3843d ago

Translation:
"please be legitimate bad news for the ps4, pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease pleasepleasepleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaase!&q uot;

DigitalRaptor3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Your unfounded desperation sustains me...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

xD

Sono4213843d ago

Why can't you have this sort of skepticism when Microsoft talks?

Because that is where your skepticism belongs..

n4rc3843d ago

Soooo... It overheated and shut down... And thats not an issue??!

Yeah it's great it will shut down before bricking.. But it still overheated nonetheless

solid_snake36563843d ago

You Xbone fanboys have been waiting for this day since ps4 was Announced. You guys swarmed this rumor like cockroaches.

iiwii3843d ago

Well what do you expect? Microsoft must be scared, because they have their minions trying their best to make the PS4 look bad all over the net, but its not working.

n4rc3843d ago

Nobody is making them look any way...

It overheated... Microsoft fanboys didn't make that happen.. Make of it what you will.. But it sure as hell isn't good news

edgeofsins3842d ago

Sony has been using yellow to indicate overheating. Red is for standby.

TheGreenMan3842d ago

@ n4rc

It' not a problem because consumers who buy the PS4 aren't going to place it into an unventilated plastic tube with stage lights blaring down on it to drive the heat up.

For God's sake, try using some logic...

n4rc3842d ago

Stop trying to imply I said something I didn't..

It overheated... Make of that what you will.. I never said they were doomed or it was junk...

Simply that it overheating is not good... Kinda stating the obvious but your still trying to spin a blatantly obvious fact as some fanboy campaign... So maybe its not that obvioua to some

rainslacker3842d ago

@n4rc

Did you know the X1 is designed to shut down when it starts to overheat, only to start up again once it's cooled down. Did you know most computers and computing devices are designed to do the same things nowadays?

Why would MS(and others) design it in such a way? Curious.

Here's why. Because it keeps the system from frying itself due to extreme heat, otherwise known as RROD or YLOD this gen. The fact that both these systems run cooler than the previous gen, and likely have chips which can withstand the heat more than last gen anyways should be telling enough that both consoles are designed to stand the test of time.

I don't think many people understand how far these types of CPU's have come in a very short period of time in terms of energy efficiency, thus vastly reducing the amount of heat they produce.

TheGreenMan3842d ago

@ n4rc

It overheated because of the conditons I already mentioned, you twit. Absolutely nothing I said was "fanboyish" and I my opinion would be the exact same if this were an article about the Xbox One.

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Animal Mutha 763843d ago

Interesting how quick Sony were to deal with this.

MS PR team should take note.

Sono4213843d ago

Difference is the negative news about the Xbox One is true... the MS PR can't go out and just deny it, but they also don't want to go out and announce it... they are in a way harder position.. maybe Microsoft's plan all along was to make their PR team work for their money ;)

rainslacker3842d ago

@Sono

Difference I see is that Sony just flat out denies things. They don't put a lot of PR spin on it, nor do they makes statements open to interpretation when dispelling rumors.

MS on the other hand has to go into a long tirade about how they designed the console to be the best thing ever and throw in something about how innovative they are.

End result is the same. People that want to believe it will, and people that want an answer get it. Forums keep on turning, and everyone denies the other is telling the truth.

Strikepackage Bravo3843d ago

Not like you can believe Sony on this, they still don't admit the YLOD was an issue, not to mention the PS2 disc read error. They made you guys pay to have those fixed.

Xsilver3843d ago

mine never had any disc read error.

Strikepackage Bravo3843d ago

Yeah, and my brothers 360 never had RROD so whats your point.

black0o3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

it's the % that matter .. every electronic device can die on u but when it happens on big scale that's something else JUST like RROD every x360 had 54.2% Failure Rate so don't compare the YLOD to RROD

Strikepackage Bravo3843d ago

No what matters is the offending manufacturers willingness to stand behind the product. Its better to have a 50% failure rate in which you replace the units free of charge, than it is to have a 20% failure rate in which you blame the customer and make them pay 150 bux to get the less than two year old console repaired.

Majin-vegeta3843d ago

For every PS3 that got YLOD there was at least 50 360 RROD.

KwietStorm_BLM3843d ago

Actually they fixed my disc read error for free, no questions asked. Stop trying so hard. This fanboy crap is killing the game community.

Strikepackage Bravo3843d ago

@KwietStorm

That was after a class action lawsuit forced them.
Where have you been?

Wh15ky3843d ago

The RROD was an absolute disaster, I can't think of any other hardware malfunction that competes.

If ms didn't react the way they did, their venture into the gaming console market was over.

SmokingMonkey3842d ago

LOL at denial of MS handling of the RROD.

Just like Peter Moore said about the 50% defect. Don't worry about how faulty the machine is, just be thankful that we are replacing it for free.

SMH

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StoutBEER3842d ago (Edited 3842d ago )

@ Sono421 It's people like you that make me realize that there are assholes no matter where you are.

And it's people like you that make it REALLY hard to even want a PS4. Self righteous beyond reason for no reason.

rainslacker3842d ago

There are people like that on all sides. Do all these assholes mean that you will never own another gaming console again? If so, why be here? Why not just buy the system you want, forget us losers on the net, and enjoy your games.

Or you could take the optimistic approach and enjoy the part of the community that aren't assholes.

Elimin83842d ago

Wow.. So now they're claiming PS4 Flatlines before it's even released? Not trying to dispute that but why not wait till at least release?!

CaptainFaisal3842d ago

I just have one question, even though this is false because as you said it was by Homer Simpson, EVEN IF IT WAS TRUE! OFCOURCE SONY WOULD SAY ITS NOT TRUE or they wont sell the PS4. just saying. Would you really think that sony would confirm the rumor and say its true? come on! Although i still will buy the PS4 but probably in February because i dont like buying the first shipments as they mostly have bugs or are bad.

FamilyGuy3842d ago (Edited 3842d ago )

Well of course it's "false", the system wasn't "dead" so coining it a "death light" makes no sense.

I just wonder if it was a real light or completely photoshopped to begin with. If the light truly was red then I'd imagine more people would've noticed and taken pictures than just this one guy.

UnholyLight3842d ago

It was only a matter of time before someone would come up with some stupid rumour.

Jazz41083842d ago

In what circumstance does anyone expect Sony to say YES this is TRUE? The console is not even released yet. This is very stupid.

kidhero993842d ago

When I was searching I saw an article on it. I don’t actually know, so I can’t confirm anything.

To be clear – I don’t know the resolution for every 3rd party game on XBO. I don’t know why people think I would. Do you believe the 3rd parties are giving me a report on the latest resolutions of their games? Or I can just call up and they will share it?

I know the resolutions of our First party games, that’s it.

And, to be clear, I was asking if anyone had a list COMPARING Xbox One and PS4 resolutions. Even in the list above, it doesn’t give me the XBO resolutions for a lot of 3rd parties.

I ended up generating my own list.

Of course he was asked to share his list, and here’s what he found out:
Well my list has a lot of holes in. It basically looks the same as what was posted above – I can’t find comparisons of both platforms for 3rd party titles.

Basically, what I see is that Sony’s first party games are all 1080p. Our games are a mix. And of course you mix inconsistencies on framerates where both KI and Forza are 60fps, DC and Knack are 30, and KIllzone is a mix.

But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and I’ve found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I don’t know because they are 3rd party games, means I can’t draw any conclusions.

Upon further questioning, he explained how the relationship between the Xbox team and third parties works, mentioning that only very few at Microsoft are privy on sensitive information from third parties.
I’m sorry that peoples’ lack of understanding of our team works, gets translated into me being disingenuous.

OF COURSE we have a 3rd party team that works very closely with publishers.

That team is organizationally separate from the rest of us. Why? Because that team deals with very sensitive information. Remember, we are both a competitor and a partner to our publishers.

To preserve that balance, our 3rd party team isn’t in the habit of doling out information to the rest of the team, including me, whenever we want. I don’t get to walk over there and see whatever I want, or get these types of questions answered because of my position.

So what do you want to be true? That I can walk over and get any piece of information I want about any 3rd party game? Or that the IP of our partners is secured organizationally so publishers are confident that what they share with that team remains confidential?

Because the latter part is true. So yes, a lot of these details I will get near the same time the game actually ships.

So let’s use some common sense. Almost nobody that works on Xbox knows details of 3rd party games besides that team.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3842d ago

Of course they're going to say it's false. Damage control. This close to launch and few consoles fry.. they're not going to admit to that.

GarrusVakarian3842d ago

By fry do you mean display a warning message that the console is getting too hot while displaying a red light and then continues to work perfectly after a restart?

LackTrue4K3842d ago

"you can't expect to be on the cutting edge of technology, and not get cut"

lol....jokes aside, i guess there trying to do some damage/rumors against Sony.

just enjoy the hell of what you buy PlayStation/XbOne!!

Godlovesgamers3842d ago (Edited 3842d ago )

Well its a really good thing we have you on the case, detective.

Detective L.J.
Lead Sony Trolling Investigator

I think its got a nice ring to it.

Jokeponicus/Pochahontus aside...

This is a reason I will be getting gamestops 2 yr replacement plan on mine, day one. You just never know with new hardware.

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CustardTrout3843d ago

Looked like someone had been on paint and slammed it on to be honest.

thejigisup3843d ago

Long live Shu the rumor killer!

MajorAly3843d ago

Microsoft was behind this false rumour spreading. News at 11.

BOLO3843d ago

Wouldn't you try to drag your competitors name through the mud if you had months and months of negativity publicity on an upcoming console launch?

insomnium23843d ago

Well atleast Sony didn't do anything like that with the PS3 when it was absolutely bombarded with propaganda, FUD and lies for YEARS.

Benjaminkno3842d ago

We won't know until next year at most.
I got the "yellow light of death" on a 40gig back in 'o8

Luckily I won a Ps4 from taco bell...

Im optimistic.

skydragoonity3843d ago

I never had a doubt that this was 100% false.

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rlow113h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos10h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos8h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje8h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia49m ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher43m ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon9h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum11h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola6h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia57m ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing6936m ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad8h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola6h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher42m ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai7h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher42m ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK7h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher41m ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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