Xbox One will be ‘best experienced’ with IPv6: How do you get IPv6 at home, though?

According to Microsoft, if you want to enjoy the best possible Xbox One gaming experience, you should use IPv6

[Tooly]

thats how people get doxed and booted better not make any modders mad.

[The_Con-Sept]

o much for "all in one input one." In order to get ipv6 you need either a modem, or both the right modem and a router, that supports it. Guess how much a router with ipv6 costs?

Seriously take a guess cause I own the router but not the modem.

[Kushan]

Not that much? There's routers that support IPv6 for £50. I bought an N66-U for £90 and it supports IPv6, even via tunnelling so I don't need the modem to support it.

The Xbone was never going to replace your modem, where on earth did you get that from?

[P0werVR]

^

He has the Sony fanboy syndrome.

[n4rc]

My Asus router supports it.. Not sure about the modem although it Is a brand new Cisco..

[ShinMaster]

Even though IPv6 routers are around, well over 90% of web traffic is still using IPv4.

[Gekko36]

@The_Con-Sept STFU!!!!! You NEED an IPS that supports IPv6, it doesn't matter what your kit is. Your ISP will assign you an IPv4 address from their DHCP regardless of your kit unless your ISP supports IPv6

They are few and far between at the moment. IPv6 have been round for years but not many companies use it because of the investment on architecture.

All network cards support it and most routers and Firewalls use it too.

[LostDjinn]

Ummm...what?

Dual stacking is common practice when it comes to IPv4 and IPv6. It's crap that we're still transitioning. The hardware's cheap, it's the infrastructure that's absent/lacking.

Anyway, point is it's going to be a while before IPv6 makes a difference to many people in the world. It sucks but that's the way it is.

[BoriboyShoGUN]

But how does that work if your on a IPv6 connection and your buddies are not?? Are you going to have like restricted NAT messages etc cant join partys all that garbage. But i think both consoles could add this in an update anyways.

*But more options are always good Im going to read a lil more about this IPv6.

[malokevi]

Hmm. I wonder how important this is. I'll definitely look into it... but can't imagine its a deal breaker.

[redwin]

Really? Do you remember when Sony said the most you ever gonna need is DSL? Mmmmm. Would you be ok today with a system that the best it can support is DSL?

[malokevi]

Huh?

The article says:

"According to Microsoft, if you want to enjoy the best possible Xbox One gaming experience, you should use IPv6."

and it also says that IPv6 isn't widely available.

So, considering that, it's only logical to assume that a T3+ connection will be sufficient. Just because you don't have an optimal setup doesn't mean its a deal breaker.

I would love nothing more than to have the fastest possible connection. But at this point, I'm not even sure if that's a possibility.

I really wasn't looking for an argument. I'm going to look into it, I'm probably going to test the waters... and then I'll upgrade if I think it's necessary. That's all there is to it.

[redwin]

I agree with you, and I understand. All I'm saying is better connection is always better. Your r correct about if you have a slow connection you shouldn't look for ipv6 comparability. Just don't ever say its good enough because now you are playing and chatting and next year you'll want to play and skype. That's all I'm saying, I'm not attacking you.

[jmc8888]

You do realize that some DSL is faster then some cable internet right? So DSL as a technology isn't just stuck as 256k or thereabouts.

Also if I want to use the internet, the first thing I'm going to do is switch the input from my console....ANY console to my PC. Much much faster to do anything on the internet using your PC.

I don't see this as a deal breaker one way or the other.

If it has an advantage then great for Xbox One owners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Well according to the semi-authority Wiki 98 percent of web traffic is still IPv4.

Maybe IPv6 might help with apps or more likely maybe some internet enabled device hooked up through an Xbox One.

But I don't see many uses as a lay person to how this would make games better or pings faster for multiplayer games.

This is one of those few times malokevi and I agree or sort of agree on something.

[Eonjay]

IPv6 isn't a connection, its a method of addressing. The problem with IPv4 is that with all the addresses will probably be used up soon. Most computers can be updated or configured to use IPv6 out of the box but it doesn't matter if your ISP isn't issuing IPV6 addresses.

[redwin]

I guess you could be right, but I always though that cable can be very slow not that DSL can be very fast. Perhaps I should read more about it. Or just remain ignorant on that and just wait for the google faster, reliable and cheaper service.

[Kushan]

DSL has many forms:

ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+,
SDSL,
VDSL,
etc

VDSL is sometimes called Fibre-to-the-cab, with the right equipment it's capable of speeds well above 100Mbit, sometimes as high as 160Mbit. Upload speeds are good, too, 20Mbit in most cases.

Cable can be just as fast, it uses completely different technology but technology that scales really well. In the UK, our cable provider offers a 120Mbit down service, though the upload is somewhat hampered to just 12Mbit. In future this can scale to beyond gigabit speeds (already in trials).

[escott013]

I used to be on DSL before I moved to where I live now, and a problem I had with DSL (AT&T), was the contention ratios in my area. AT&T DSL was the more popular isp in my neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods. The more bandwidth that users near me used, the less bandwidth there was that I could use. It was a sweet and sour experience because the internet was particularly faster at night. :P

Edit: typos

[GraveLord]

Of course the PS4 will support IPV6 as well. If you have an IPV6 connection you'll get less latency than on an IPV4 connection. Pretty much all new products support IPV6 these days.

[kennyg3739]

What products support it?

[Undeadwolfy]

Pretty much all new products support IPV6 these days.

[Bgibbs]

I don't think you know what IPv6 is or how it works.

[TheUndertaker85]

PS4 supporting IPv6 is a no brainer and already shows signs of happening.

http://www.ipv6.com

[TheUndertaker85]

http://www.ipv6.com/article...

[MyFeetHurt]

gonna have to call you out on that. actually IPv6 increases latency a little, from having to process the larger headers.

IPv6 will only be faster when it is fully implemented >10 years most likely :/ because the routing tables will finally get smaller, the biggest issue engineers have with IPv4

[jmc8888]

Ok so routing tables.

But for it to work, all the routing tables in routers between the two parties would no doubt need to be IPv6.

So until that is the case it won't happen. When it does happen it won't be all at once, and something will have it and something won't.

[Kushan]

Actually most of the main infrastructure of the internet is set up for IPv6 right now. IPv6 runs along side IPv4 (though tunnelling is a thing). The main thing holding it back is the last mile, all the customer equipment that doesn't handle it.

[fattyuk]

wtf is IPv6!!!

Is it an overpriced accessory?

[DonFreezer]

Like most of the sony camp you are clueless about technology but you'll be the first to jump on the hate wagon and tut the gpu specs of the PS4.

[TheUndertaker85]

Nice.

I only own Sony. I use Comcast. I'm already using IPv6.

[OrangePowerz]

IPv6 isn`t used very much so clearly there will be people that are not familiar with it.

Not sure why you have to bring up Sony and the PS4 but whatever floats your boat. I don`t even want to go into detail with what funny things people from the Xbox camp come up with like dual GPU and other imaginary things.

[fattyuk]

@donfreezer

A) What's Sony and the playstation brand have to do with anything?

B) I never mentioned Sony or playstation (until now)

C) Why you be trolling?

[thekhurg]

I can see why you have one bubble.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

What is it you were attempting to prove?

[Pogmathoin]

And nobody has answered your question either! Somebody please tell Fatty what IPv6 is, how its better and what are our benefits! I need to know too, thanks.... Layman terms much appreciated.

[OrangePowerz]

@Ps4beaver

It adds more IP`s because the normal IPv4 will be running out of IP addresses because it`s using the 4 blocks of numbers from 0-255 while IPv6 uses a more complex IP that allows for more unique IP addresses.

[jukins]

lol when fanboys call out fanboys @DonFreezer

[Pogmathoin]

Ok, it allows more IP addresses, but is it faster, more streamlined? Is it worth contacting my IP and asking about this?

Thanks too, Orangepowerz..

[blackmanone]

Don, there's a reason you only have one bubble, and it has nothing to do with the technical prowess you possess. I notice you didn't answer him, either. Could it be you don't know, either?

[OrangePowerz]

In theory it would be faster for moving data, but most networks are still going through IPv4 so even if you have an IPv6 yourself it would route through networks that use IPv4. To have the full effect everything should use IPv6.

It`s supposedly also more secure.

The main reason as mentioned is more IP addresses.

[SCW1982]

Wow dude why the hate? He just asked a simple question.

[TheUndertaker85]

http://www.comcast6.net

[Thehyph]

A newer version of internet protocol.

Standard ipv4 you would know as addresses like 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.0, etc.

IPv6 uses hexadecimal instead of decimal to do the same thing. ("0" to "9" and "a" to "f")

The primary reason for its existence is that the ipv4 decimal format would eventually run out of addresses I believe.

[johnnywit]

Ipv6 increases the amount of ip addresses. We are running out of ipv4 addresses so the move to ipv6 will fix that. NAT has help ipv4. Continue going on but people expect so many Internet users from other countries to sign up that it won't last. I can't remember how ip addresses ipv6 adds but it's a ridiculous amount.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

LOL

[fattyuk]

It was a genuine question with a tongue in cheek remark.

[kingPoS]

TCP/IP - the backbone of the internet.

[redwin]

No, I believe Google is offering it and its cheaper than cable and Verizon. It's an internet connection.

[gedden7]

Yeah, ooookaaaay... Sure I will buy a xbone now...

[g-nome]

Won't make a difference really , especially not in terms of latency, and you will still likely be translated to an ipv4 address somewhere along the line.

[ChickeyCantor]

Apparently IPv6 works better if you're behind a crappy network environment. But really, North America really needs to step their game when it comes to internet providers.

[LoveOfTheGame]

North America has one of the best internet providers in Google.

In time they will cover the entire U.S.A and make their way to control the rest of the world, lol.

But seriously, look them up.

[ChickeyCantor]

Google Fiber is only new, the rest of your states are dying under high costs with data caps for crying out loud.

[Shakes]

What a bull S*** article. IPV6 has nothing to do with a better experience. The ONLY reason IPV6 exists is because we are running out of IPV4 addresses. Other than being longer (to not run out again) they are exactly the same. They work the same way and are NOT faster or better and have nothing at all to do with a better experience. Also your ISP is doing the transition for you and is currently giving you an IPV6 address as well as an IPV4 address. This article is extremely misleading and should be disregarded. You have nothing at all to worry about or change.

[GutZ31]

This^

[SniperControl]

Well said dude.

[Cyb3r]

Not BS heres an article and a presentation video proving that Xbox One is better with IPv6
http://www.internetsociety....

[TheUndertaker85]

Your article also confirms Xbox One servers are p2p, not dedicated.

"Yesterday at NANOG 59 in Phoenix, Arizona, Microsoft’s Chris Palmer explained that the Xbox One gaming console uses IPv6 for the peer-to-peer (p2p) communication between gamers."

Gotta love MS reps.

Also, what IPSec is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

And what Teredo is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Going out on a limb I fail to see how either are going to boost your gaming experience.

[BoriboyShoGUN]

@Richie, Dam he Tombstoned you!!!!!

[Megaton]

Yup. The only difference is that it's a longer address. It exists solely because the world is running out of IPV4 addresses. This article is ridiculous. People are really desperate to manufacture XB1 positives.

[rainslacker]

But 6 > 4..../s

[Eazy-Eman]

You are correct, however just to make sure I looked it up in my computer network book (I'm an IT student), and it says "IPv6 includes a mechanism that allows a sender and a reciever to establish a high-quality path through the underlying network and to associate datagrams with that path. Although the mechanism is intended for use with audio and video applications that require high performance guarantees, the mechanism can also be used to associate datagrams with low-cost paths." I doubt it'll make a big difference though.

[rainslacker]

By high quality path do you mean a discrete direct path? If so, I don't see how that would work on our current infrastructure as most of the path is outside the end users control.

Or do you mean it can establish a path with less latency and higher throughput by redirecting the connection while establishing the path? Again seems that the ISP would have more control, and they route based on availability during peak hours.

Or do you mean something else completely?

Only ask because I'm curious, and too lazy to look up the answer.

[JonnyLH]

IPv6 was certified in 1999, after a very long time of it not receiving an RFC. That was never its design purpose, it was a feature and was never predicted that IPv4 would run out this fast.

You also contradicted yourself, remove the lack of IP addresses and you remove NAT. You remove NAT and suddenly P2P becomes not a problem at all.

Unfortunately, ISP's are investing in CG-NAT solutions rather than focusing on upgrading consumer boxes since it'll cost to much. Also, if you have IPv6 you'll need IPv4 support. Tunneling is a massive overhead and slow and dual-stacking in CPE's in expensive and would cost too much of an initial investment for ISP's. Its a ridiculous problem with ridiculous solutions unfortunately. This is coming from someone who's worked on CG-NAT projects for 2 UK ISP's.

[Timmey]

Can anyone who has a twitter account ask shuhei yoshida about ipv6 on ps4?

[black0o]

no need every new hardware this days is supporting it

[ziggurcat]

didn't the entire internet switch to IPv6 anyway? and how does this even affect the online performance of a console? because it doesn't - it's just a newer IP protocol that just adds IP addresses.

and is this the new thing xbox fanboys are going to try to cling onto to make it seem like their system is better than PS4?

[TheOneEyedHound]

IPv6 has to do with your Ip address, when 4-6 computers are connected it make your online gaming so much smoother. 2 transmissions is all it takes theocratically, but with IPv6 it increase the storeage which makes Comcast,Cox into super 200mp internet connection, I just made all this shit up. Thanks for reading.

Edit: On Topic: IPv6 & IPv4 are the same and the Ps4 will have IPv6, which doesn't really matter...

[whitesoxfalife1976]

Lol love that gamers as a whole just need to get our heads out of our asses sometimes....ipv6 has been around for the longest of time comcast and every other provider has certain a day when they test out ipv6 annually to make sure it runs smoothly until the rest of the internet community switches over full time some are already on board full time.

If you are a comcast customer no need to worry yourself.... switching to ipv6 is really easy providing your router already have it built-in if not u need buy new router..
If you have that type of router then go into the settings of your type of router by openning it up a browser with it defaulf ip address located on your router box your admin and password shud be there as well don't worry kids if you don't know jow ask your mommy or daddy to do it for you, but for the rest of us just continue on process.
How do you know if you have said router? Most dualband routers has it. 2.4/5ghz with a/b/g/n or the newest ac version so if you have a router thas over at least 3yrs old time for an upgrade buddy.... I'm done rambling now

[jjb1981]

Your ISP would need to issue your modem an ipv6 address and your NAT would need to be set to issue your xbox one a private ipv6 address.

[zu4G]

my Mom said to me back then..
I was her most Handsome boy son in the world..

just like> Microsoft+Xbone

[Guwapo77]

Good luck being to tell any difference...

http://www.networkcomputing...

Here are a few benefits to using ipv6.