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Making Bad - Worker Abuses in the Video Game Industry

Mike writes, "While the inevitability of the Sony fans saying others are worse is as likely as others piling on and acting as though this company is the only offender, let’s get something clear. This kind of practice; exploiting workers and cutting corners, is not unique to this industry and it’s sure as hell not unique to Sony. Foxconn makes products for Sony, Nintendo, Apple, Microsoft, and a number of other corporations. None of them seem to have much of a problem with the fact that Foxconn’s employees have threatened to commit mass suicide in protest over working conditions, with over a dozen actually following through on it in 2010."

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Ashlen3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Ya know the truth is making Chinese businesses look bad is more of a political agenda in the west than it is reality.

The vast majority of Foxconn workers are happy. The reality is a lot of Chinese people want to work there, more than are unhappy about it. At least they have jobs which is more than a lot of Americans and people from various parts of Europe and Asia can say.

And I know there are lots of non Chinese people who would be happy to have a guaranteed job for 6 months to a year or more with there room and board paid plus food and a pretty decent salary in comparison to other jobs in the same country.

It's not that different than military life which many people are happy with and no one has anything bad to say about.

manasteel883843d ago

Foxconn is running short on workers as most are leaving to go to factories in their home province, or are looking for cushier jobs in better industries. Now Foxconn are running a system with a college where they take people that went to a school so they wouldn't have to work the factory life and force them to choose to sacrifice credits in their major or be forced to go to Foxconn. Its a scam and it demeans people that wanted to better their life by attending a college by forcing them to tape up PS4's for launch.

Ashlen3843d ago

They weren't forced. As part of there degree they agreed to take jobs. Some of them are unhappy with the job they were assigned to.

Though none of them has said that, that was a journalistic take on the situation as far as I can tell.

And you can ask interns in America if they got there dream assignment in there internship and I doubt many of them did. Especially if it was unpaid.

All I'm saying is plenty of people are happy with there jobs at Foxconn. And that people should be be aware in the west this type of article is often over sensationalized.

SilentNegotiator3843d ago

Right. That's why there have been so many suicides and internal Chinese reports have called foxconn factories "labor camps" Political agendas.

"At least they have jobs which is more than a lot of Americans and people from various parts of Europe and Asia can say"

Right, they should be so lucky as to be living under such barbaric conditions, just because some other people don't have jobs at all.

Do you even know what you're typing?

Ashlen3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

They are labor camps, people live there and work there. It doesn't mean it's bad. Foxconn doesn't force anyone to work there people apply for jobs like any place.

If you were unemployed with little hope for finding a job due to various reason such as living in a rural area you'd be surprised.

And FAR less suicides than the American military has per year.

"Service members committed suicide during 2012 at a record pace: more than 349 took their own lives across the four branches, or one every 25 hours, a Department of Defense spokesperson confirmed Monday."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_...

And yes, yes I do.

SilentNegotiator3843d ago

Better isn't good. The American Military complex sucks, too, but let's stay on topic.

Ashlen3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

"The American Military complex sucks."

No it doesn't, it provides employment and education for millions of Americans.

And secondly you brought up suicide rates.

I would have chosen a major company like Ford or something but they don't have to report suicide rates. But I can pretty much guarantee any company that has as many employees as Foxconn has it's share of suicides.

SilentNegotiator3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

"it provides employment and education for millions of Americans"

Fueled by a need for soldiers for unnecessary wars and occupations.

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fattyuk3843d ago

Worker abuses -

All those people trying to make the wii u a success is who I feel sorry for

(lame joke, I don't agree with any human abuse)

B_Real3843d ago

To be fair, Microsoft is using the same company for their manufacturing process as well: http://www.geek.com/games/f...

MikeEaton3843d ago

I do say pretty explicitly in the article (it's even in the synopsis) that this issue is bigger than Sony.

TemplarDante3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Its sad, right? But its also reality. Think twice before you buy a DELL pc or Apple Iphone, Ipad etc.
Oh Yeah..
You wont.
I feel for these guys but I saw the MS Fanboys take a sad situation like this to use as PR mudslinging projectiles. While MS isnt exactly a whitenight in the world.
Afterall, Richest man in the world Bill Gates, the great philantropis owns shares in one of the worlds most evil companies, Monsanto. Google their work or check their wikipedia.

naturalsociety.com/bill-gates -dodges-questions-owns-500000-s hares-of-monsanto/

miyamoto3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

This is why i refuse to buy any MS product.
I know the MS empire is so wide spread. But now I can finally have choices outside the "windows".

Imagine every penny you give MS goes to killing thousands of people on Gate's depopulation agenda. Chemical trails, GMO corn, GMO mosquitoes, etc etc.

How can anyone with a right mind or a conscience buy an Xbone facing this crime on humanity?

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10 Weirdest Video Games of All Time

Plenty of unforgettable games have completely messed up their players throughout the years, all the way back from the PS1 days to the dark recesses of the modern internet.

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JonTheGod8h ago

Why are the Katamari games not on the list??

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 5h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga8h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 4h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde11h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 3h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 2h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 2h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 7h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 4h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional